on the palomino, you can close the door turn the fantastic fan on reverse and the canvas will suck in as you drop the pop up roof.

I don't travel anymore physically....but I travel thru videos! Thanks for allowing the elderly to dream and reminisce about the times when we actually could do it. I really enjoy your videos ...such a beautiful couple!

Love how you did the comparisons. Points I didn’t consider. Thanks for sharing!

Your grandson is precious! Thanks for including him in the video!!

Funny, but- I really appreciated the fact that you ENJOYED the sense of openness of the pop-top. I couldn't really get it until you 'splained how it felt like you're closer to nature. But, we are planning on living in our TC, so- for us at least, we will definitely do a hard sided, four season camper! Great job, and I was impressed with how fair you were to both! Thank again!

Loved seeing you in NH my childhood home! You guys are wonderful.

Appreciate the comparison / tour

Awesome to see the ins and outs. Thanks for sharing

This is exactly the video I was looking for!! I’m thinking of either hardtop or soft top!

Thank you for that informative and thorough video, helping me make the decision to choose a pop up as the first one, I imagine in the future I will want something bigger but for now I am totally sold on what you said and really appreciate you making this video👍😉You guys have a great attitude and are great role models for a lot of people breaking into the RV world or just having to live on the road… Thank you so very much!

Thanks for the video guys!

Great Video. You covered all points well. I have a 2018 Palomino SS1500. One thing all Rv ers share is space limitations. I have added several options to my camper which also adds to the total weight. Fortunately I have Ford F350 SRW which handles the extra weight without overloading the truck. Planning a Canada / Alaska trip. Good camping!

Great video! I just returned yesterday to Arizona after finding a good deal in Indiana on a Palomino SS550. Coming home, road debris found my passenger side mirror and shattered it. If you can't see behind you, you can't drive. So I now have a spare mirror glass and duck tape to get me where I need to be for later repair. As a rookie, I plan on watching ALL of your videos. Happy travels! 😃

Just found your channel. Really good info! I have a pop-up and plan to sell it to buy a hard side for many of the reasons you listed.

Great seeing these, because we were always towing a boat or atvs we had a 11.5ft side entry for about 10 yrs, extra length gave room for the bathroom including shower 🚿 loved that camper ❤

Great video, needed the info on the soft sided Palomino, thank you.

Thank you 😊..you helped me decide what I really want ..you seem very happy..thanks again best wishes from California

Best video i am actually looking for a camper and have narrowed it to these 2.

Really helpful video as I am currently deciding between a hard side and a soft side. Thanks!

Thanks again for the video ... such nice couple you are!!

I enjoy all your videos and this one was really interesting too.

This helps a lot, thank you.

Thank you for the great comparison...I have gone back and forth for so long now...what I am seriously looking at now is the Rayzr FB-M...nice and small and light for my Nissan Frontier...

Very informative thank you

Enjoyed the video. We are still enjoying our Palomino pop-up but have been looking at hard-sides lately as retirement approaches. Lots to consider when upgrading!

really nice summary. TY

Great video thanks for the idea

Hi guys that's why I'm choosing a 12 foot box van 78 inch inside height and width for plenty of insulation and still stand.stealth,under 10.5feet with solar, good mpg, recirculating shower, don't have to exit the vehicle to drive never plugging in at a campground 💯 off grid ps your grandkid made me smile I have 10 precious grandkids Happy Holidays 😃🌲🌵👍✌️

Space is always the 🐘 in the camper or any other rv for that matter. No matter how much space you have you find yourself wanting one more thing to fit somewhere. Lol. A single person can outgrow a 2 bedroom house in no time. Not to mention a couple living in a bread box. I got some good ideas from you in this video for storage. Thank you. God bless you both w/many more safe travels.🙏 P.S.👍 up to your little helper.

We bought a 2019 Travel lite 625, it was the lightest one we found for our short box 4x4 Silverado and well within our payload, we pack minimal and light. It does not have a wet bath, only a portapotti in a cupboard and outside shower, which we set up a pop up shower tent outside. We choose this specific layout as my husband is claustrophobic sleeping in an overhang and I didn't want to crawl over him at night getting into bed. The table/bench bed is the size of a single bed. We do not live full time in it but use it a lot 7 mths of the year (retired), fishing, hunting, travelling and random camping. We mostly dry camp off road. It has everything we need. Never had any problems with it in 3 years, still like new. We did not want the hassle of a soft top. Hard top is warmer in our colder spring and fall. Stays very warm with the heater and does get a cross breeze with open windows, we also have USB fans and rarely use the air conditioner. We added air bags, good new tires and get our differential serviced once a year. This camper rides well, sometimes we tow an 8ft aluminum boat.

very nice video comparison. thanks.

I had a new SS550 I took to Alaska but got real tired of putting top up n down now have a new HS8801 loaded It's awesome

The most important thing to me was the gas mileage difference. Thanks.very practical and to the point information.

I like the idea of storing the soft side in my garage.

I loved your grandson and subscribed for him.. so cute

Thank you very much 👍👍👍

Thanks for this useful comparison! I think stealth camping points go to the pop up? Because it can be used in the down position. Also fuel savings, height on back roads/trails, wind buffeting while driving , ventilation while cooking are the clincher for me. Thanks again!

New to your channel...you are a great couple. As a female I like to get a female's perspective...so I was surprised with how well I related to your cheery, bright personality. This is a great video. Much appreciated

Just bought a pop top, wish I hadn’t watched this. LOL, it’s all good. Thanks.

We hope to. See you next month at Quartzsit

My mom saw the hardtop Palomino today and got excited and lost her right mind 😅! She sat down to apply for a loan- now she wants to drag my dad to the lot to see it - smh I never should have showed her it 😮, I didn’t know it would affect her so deeply 🤔. There is one point though- she already owns a 26’ RV and loves it ☝️🤨! Excitement really sweeps her 😅.

Hi guys! Thank you for the tour and the information. One thing I wonder is about the humidity. The second is, we in Norway do not have the same problem with predators and camping, but is it not the case in the US that in some places it is forbidden with popup campers? And a big thumbs up for the lovely boy.

I had a travel lite, and when I opened a few spaces and got to see the interior of the structure I was shocked. I couldn't wait to trade it in. That's by far the cheapest build possible. But it does look nice and shinny on the outside,

Good comparison video. I wish we could get gutsy enough to downsize a bit.

Great video, for off road adventures I see a lot of soft sides, light weight and maneuverable. For longer term / full time use the hard side makes more sense. For 8 Ft. truck beds the soft side models are less $. Thanks for posting.

Great video. Can I ask where you got the screen door for the Palomino?

I appreciate this video. I was curious towards the height of a soft camper and if it would fit closed in a standard garage. Thank you for doing this video.

Yeah I'm starting out on slide in camping, at 1st it was pop up types but, once you hear of the 'extras' list cost that ended that search. Later on hearing more negitives such as the amount of condensation or incoming noise that sealed the deal for a hardside. The travel lite has issues too, the awfully small refrigerator being one and, the seating in the middle as opposed to the back ie views would be an issue.

I have had several of each type. They both have pros and cons. The pop ups will work on most full size half tons or larger. The hard side campers should always be on a 3/4 ton or larger unless you modify the half ton truck to handle the sway from cross winds and un level places you drive. Simply driving at an angle over a curb will cause the top heaviness of the tall camper to cause the truck to pitch side to side.

I think I saw you guys in a Braums in Blackwell Oklahoma a couple months back! I’m from KC too and took a picture of you chiefs camper because I thought it was awesome! I’m looking at getting the palomino for my tundra. Would you all recommend it? And if you are in the KC area where did you buy yours? My wife and I would like to check one out! Thanks for the video!

Great video! Thank you! How do you like the quality of your Travel Lite camper? I’m considering one? Thanks.

Great video. I enjoyed it. I have a Lance 650 hard side for a few months, now i have a buyer for it. It has very little space inside and feels heavy for my 1/2 ton. I did make a couple suspension upgrades. Im looking into soft side camper lately, for gas saving and weight. I found Palomino SS-1251. It has wet bath, flush toilet, but still weight 1800 lbs. No gray tank, kitchen sink water go out to the ground. When shower, gray valve need to be in open position. I travel to another town to work for 5 days every other week. So i mainly use the camper at company parking lot. For sleep / cook / relaxing, not so much for camping. If i want to goto a gym for shower or goto a store, i would need to lower the top before driving. It seems like alot of work, also the motor or the actuator seem to break easily. Also it's not very stealthy. Anybody that sees my truck with top extended knows that someone is inside. Today i found online about Palomino hard side, HS-1803 and HS-750. They are identical. Weight 1870 lbs. Has gray and black tank. I might go with the hard side. It would be nice to have both campers like you guys. One for off-road camping trip or long road trip, the other for stealthy living. Your video is very informative, helps me make my decision. One thing i dont mind is to be inside a soft side during a rain storm, i would enjoy that; if nothing leaks.

I see you had brophy mounts on your camper, did you have them for both campers? what did you think of those vs the torklift type that are mounted to the bottom of the truck to the frame? thanks, Ray

I have an 87 lance that I bought n and fixed it a lot back in 2014. I still have it until now, 3/2023, I still have 5 days to think about B4 buying the 2023 palomino ss1500, which is 3/21/2023, next wk so wish me lock,stay safe God bless u guys👍🤙

Whats best is whichever one fits comfortably in the back of my frontier pro 4x

The Reico Titan roof lift user manual states users can have 200 lbs additional weight on the roof during operation. Have you two had any load on your roof while operating?

If it's just one person, you can be pretty stealth if you're okay with sleeping on the dinette bed. Keep the top down and no one will think you're inside. It's not as comfortable, but you could probably stealth camp anywhere. You could probably even camp in a parking garage that way.

Just curious. Since this video, have you added solar to your unit? If so would love to hear your experience.

It would have been nice to know how you fastened the SS500 to the bed of your full size pick up. I understand it's made for Ranger / Colorado/ Tacoma

Good vid but common sense I'd go with the non pop-up. I'm looking for one but prices are stupid for used ones. I have no idea why idiots think they can get what they pay for them and a camper driving it off the lot is at least 20% off. Also seems like many do not use long long term but trade them in from what i see. I drive a new diesel so weight and wind doesn't matter to me. Any recommendations for doomsday/heavy use campers? I've looked at Scout Kenai/Lance/ and Lite something and all the one's made out of 2 pieces fiberglass or structural for guaranteed no leaks.

Multi-decade pop-up camper owner here, but I've also owned large travel trailers. It seems like many of your "cons" for the pop-up are based on user error or your feelings. For example, you said you felt safer in the hard-side camper. Why? It's as easy to pop the door open on a hard-side as it is on a pop-up. Did you ever talk about fuel mileage? If so, I missed it. The additional drag and weight of a hard-side camper makes long trips MUCH more expensive. Anyway, interesting video.

Nice Camper

Short door is the biggest drawback of the newer pop ups wish they still made them with full size doors like some of the older pop up models .

I’m looking to buy a travel light truck camper within the next few days. Now that you’ve had yours for a while are you happy with it? As far as build quality no leaks, or has there been issues? I know some of the earlier travel light campers had issues, and bad reviews. Since you stay so much time in years, I’d appreciate your input and opinion..

Would of like for u to go inside it when it was closed to c what it was like

I want to invest in a camper. I have a 4runner. I'm thinking of just putting it on a utility trailer until one day I do get a truck. The reason I want a truck camper won't have to register it or find parking space etc.

What is the minimum truck to carry the hard camper? I am thinking of a newer Tundra.

My wife and I are having this exact discussion. I learned a lot from this video. You didn’t mention anything about mold or mildew that can grow on the soft top camper. Was it ever a problem? Does it wear out from the sun? Im sure there were times you had to close your camper in the rain and the soft top material stays wet for extended periods. Can it be replaced easily? Thank you for a great informative video.

Can you get AC in the soft side.. what i was hoping to hear.

The Actuators on the Palominos are trash. After replacing them 3 or 4 times over a 6 month period, I just decided to replace them all with better quality ones. One thing I really love about my Palomino, I can now go down some trails I couldn't with my hard-side.

I would like to know where you got your map of the USA.

No wonder why you like the hardside, I'm looking at the ss 1251 with a bathroom in it.

Is it stable driving something that is high?

There are pros and cons to both. You cearly like the hard side!

Good comparison points but overall decreased drivability especially in wind, restricted camp access do to height and weight, if no electricity you have restricted airflow, do not cook the same type of meals, increased gas consumption….not so sure I draw the same conclusion. You may be better served by a trailer type setup. Leave the truck camper to the true adventurers

Do you still have the palomino?

Hello

Lol so much more work setting up the soft side Lmao. Try a tent camper and get back to me. 🤣

haha everybody can hear what your saying (you look at him right when you said) or they can hear what your donig.

As a previous owner of a Palamino it is my opinion they are junk save yourself the head ache. You have been warned!

Palonimo is a piece of crap,especially the pop-up,I have one 2022 model roofing issues