The best quarterback in New York plays for the Knicks. 😄 I remember that. And they were probably right. The Giants had Dave Brown and Danny Kanell. The Jets had Neil O’Donnell. 😄

​@@bjnt92281 Buffalo?

@@jimbo0386 The joke referred to New York City teams only.

​@@bjnt92281funny since neither team you mentioned is in new York

​@Charsplat SanFransisco plays in SantaClara, does that mean its not a SanFransisco team? Dallas plays in Arlington, does that mean they aren't a Dallas team? It goes on and on.

Good thing you let us know you were the QB. God forbid we thought you were a kicker or something

​@@jrbehr4643 Awww c'mon he's just saying what he played... He's prob proud of being his QB too

💯 I'm glad you had dude for a coach. I always wondered about his football career

are you jewish? just curious, your name

@@jrbehr4643 I cant believe when people share interesting stories that relate to the video content! Learn to be a little bit more human instead of a negative loser.

They never want to talk about that. That man is probably one of the best college athletes ever

in what tournament?

Dang

@@bradleyengel1225 I want to say Arthur ash but I’m not sure

Not the same calender year and back then they kinda didn't have a national championship game. They would luck up and get the 1 and 2 teams. However they had to be named national champions. In the Orange Bowl game FSU was 3 and Nebraska was 11 and finished the season with that bowl loss 9-3 and FSU won the national championship finishing ranked number 2.

FSU should not have been in the national title game as they lost to Notre Dame however Notre Dame lost to Boston College the next week. It made absolutely no sense whatsoever. College football is still a mess in terms of determining a national champion.

No, he was drafted in 1994, after the NBA Finals. He didn't actually play in the NBA Finals until 1999.

@@scrappy93the result of the FSU bowl game was still a matter of and resulted in producing a national championship. Ur face rn:🥴

In all fairness, while he did the smart thing and took the life changing money, the fact that he didn’t do anything much as a pro anything just kind of guaranteed that will be his legacy. It’s not like he was a Tebow or Vince Young type player in college where you can look past the professional career and base his legacy on college ball.

Spoken like someone who's sorry for the racism but feels like it's necessary😂😂😂

lol he would make more as a star qb

​@@iGaveLiaHIVno? NBA players make so much more than NFL players it's insane. Plus it's all guaranteed, and you don't get concussed every time you suit up. Bradley Beal is making 50 million dollars a year and he's barely an all star. Bench guys in the NBA can easily make 15-20mil. You have to be an elite player in the NFL to make that kind of money. It's an absolute no brainer and he made the right choice

​@conehed back then no nba players were only making like 15 mil max

@@hmsfan9 okay cool Steve young and John elway were top of the NFL market at 4 million each that season. Meanwhile Magic Johnson made 15 mil to lead the NBA. It's not even close.

@conehed you got paid wag more being picked in the 1st round of the NFL Draft then NBA Draft then (I believe

^^^

Thank you. Thomasville is literally up the road from both FAMU & FSU. Don't know where he got Atlanta from

Not important he made a mistake-do you both know him?

@@mosijahi3096not everybody in georgia is from atlanta

Some people know that Jim Brown was an absolute stud at football, lacrosse, and track. However, he also averaged 39ppg in basketball at his high school. His record broken by a Triple-Crown MLB HOF'er named Carl Yastrzemski (future video idea for all time great ATHLETES) 😀👍👍

KTO love your videos but he wasn’t born in Atlanta Georgia he is from Thomasville ga my home town where his Heisman is at our community library.

Hmmm. That's actually a very good idea. He's a known quantity. Is he coaching now?

@@thequixoticangler3364 He’s still currently coaching at Florida High.

he lives in Tallahassee now

Isnt he a football coach?

​@philipmeisterl no basketball at FSUS and Ambassador of Football for FSU

How? He got Wards hometown wrong and never mentioned the high school that got him started. Poor at best

Very accurate comment, sir.

Charlie war was the same height as Steve Young and Joe Montana, with a very similar athletic profile (probably less athletic, and definitely lighter, than Young). Florida State developed the Fast Break by emulating the no-huddle (or, at least, very infrequent huddle), up-tempo offenses of Cincinnati and Buffalo - which were pretty good teams at the time. The average NFL QB has been around 6' 2-1/2" for a long time. It's almost a certainty racism played some role in his not being drafted. Other bigger factors were his stated desire to only play in the NFL if he was drafted in the first round (which is totally understandable), which was complicated by his only having one truly great season (and another excellent season; he barely played his first two years), the admission by Bowden they switched offenses because Ward was not all that great running the I-form, and skipping the combine (for good reason, but leaving a lot of unknown info in its wake).

"Tall drop back Qb"? That was NFL codespeak for "white guy"

@@craigjohnson5590 codespeak? So you mean they wanted a white guy? A dose of reality: Andre Ware, Rodney Peete, Cunningham, Doug Williams, Warren Moon, Vince Evans, james harris, joe gilliam (george taliaferro in the 50s, yes the 50s) were all given chances, some made good on it. As a Noles fan of this era, I loved Ward, but as I got older and understood game dynamics, it was more the defense and jackson/warrick dunn. Ward was the face. Probably not really a top 10 (or more) college qb. Great guy. Really. Reminds me of troy smith a bit. Didn't have Cunningham's strength to break arm grasps in the NFL. Didn't throw many tough passes and wasn't really a hardcore runner either.

​@@craigjohnson5590 Warren Moon went undrafted and had to play in CFL...

He probably has CTE from all the years of playing football. But I'm sure he's better off in the long run not playing NFL

@@chumps7974 you don't know what he got.. boxing & combat sports is what people should talk about when mentioning CTE, not football

@@user-fq2do8mu7rbro wtf are you talking about😂

@@user-fq2do8mu7r you have a room temperature iq

Or he revolutionizes the game way before Vick would.

It's a fair question and I'd have been curious to see it. But this was JUST after Randall Cunningham's success as a significantly more mobile QB, so I'd like to think there was a chance he could have been utilized properly and really altered the game.

Kordell Stewart would be the closest comparison. A qb in a traditional system who can get big yardage from scrambles being the best case scenario (which was Atlanta Vick) or get his career sidetracked by being a gadget player (in modern terms, a Taysom Hill) They weren't designing plays around qb mobility back then. Really the mobile qb revolution didn't start until the early10's with Vick's Philly stint, RG3, Tebow, Kaepernick, and Newton.

That's a great point

I don't think Ward had the arm for the NFL. He soft tossed Lolly-popped everything in college. No velocity at all on any of his passes.

I agree he made the right choice

This is correct.

This is really it. He wanted guaranteed money (who wouldn't?), so he would only *consider* the NFL if a first round pick, and his college football body of work was small, with one amazing season and one good season, only. Didn't attend the combine, didn't attend a pro day.

​@@dainonjensenthat meant he was dead set on playing in the NBA. Which he played for a very long time for one organization

Would be incredible. He was so fun to watch back in the day. My all time favorite Nole

@@georgeallee16Mine too i was 14 and lived outside tallahassee in 93 and idolized charlie. I had the “ you must 17 to win the heisman “ shirt

No doubt he had the skills to play in the NFL. What was doubtful is whether he would've gotten a fair shot in that era of the NFL. He was smart to chose the NBA.

@@gordonallen9095fax. Ward would have been back up. Eventually go in to win a critical game from behind. Then the expectation would be he was supposed to part waters. And when that didn’t happen, they’re like “see, he’s just not a pro qb 🤡”.

​@@gordonallen9095 He couldn't play from under center, wrong era for him.

They also had a future NFL MVP qb in Rich Gannon sitting on the bench as well. Marty Shottenheimer couldn't get out of his own way.

They wouldn’t have. There mystery solved

​@@fatinthehat2024 There's a whole lot of assuming in this comment section that Ward would've dropped right into the NFL and thrived...as if he were a 100% sure thing and QB's back then were never "busts". He was a 5th year redshirt senior who had one elite season at age 23/24...there were plenty of reasons for NFL teams to look at his entire College career and wonder whether his skills would translate against tougher competition. If he ended up in the right system of course he could have thrived...the talent was clearly there. But I think this video is skewing the reality a bit...he was never going to be the original Mike Vick 😂

In 1995 at the Chefs Charlie Ward would have been 3rd string behind SB winner Steve Bono and Rich Gannon. The Chefs probably wouldn't have even wanted to draft Ward. If they had, come 1997 he'd still have been behind Gannon whether the Chefs had got Elvis Grbac or not.

And ABA, so 4 different leagues

Winfield would have been a HOFer in any sport he played. Size, strength, speed and even had agility.

It was a huge deal cause he was tall and speculated that he couldn't shoot if Ben Simmons shot a 26footer it would be a even bigger deal

I know you’re just referring to college but on top of Florida winning championships in basketball and football in 06, the Miami heat won the nba championship that year too. That was a good year for Florida sports fans

Yeah also 2004 Andrew bogut Alex smith

@@veezysmith2107 Utah didn't win championships in either sport that year but it is impressive that they had a player from football and basketball go number 1 in the draft that year. I can't think of any other teams who can say that

Lol not if you were a Noles fan! Although I was happy about the Heat@@jalencampbell718

He was a beast in college, I remember it like yesterday. I was mad when he went to the NBA instead of NFL. He was far better at football

One of my favorite college players ever. But he could not throw the ball anywhere close to an NFL level.

Really? I had no idea he was playing poker now.

@sapalot5660 yeah...I saw him playing on TV. He's pretty good too!