Herbst Maneuver

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Kings and Generals

Kings and Generals

Місяць тому

Experience the adrenaline rush of the Cobra Maneuver in action! Watch as skilled pilots perform this dramatic and demanding maneuver at airshows, showcasing their precision and control in the sky. Don't miss out on this thrilling display of aerial acrobatics - subscribe now for more aviation excitement! #herbst #maneuvering #wwu #modernwarfare

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@rnvaamonde
@rnvaamonde Місяць тому
"hey, can you try this new manouver? We did the math and we're almost sure the pressure on the plane won't make it explode" 😂
@luckyjamesa.valencia7095
@luckyjamesa.valencia7095 Місяць тому
Exactly how i would have imagined their conversation would be😂
@Arnechk
@Arnechk Місяць тому
Why would it explode and from what pressure?
@ADB_UWIM_2807
@ADB_UWIM_2807 Місяць тому
Remember in the short (at the end) where the narrator said the turn is well beyound the aerodynamic limits of conventional aircraft at the time?​@@Arnechk
@julianbrelsford
@julianbrelsford Місяць тому
​@@Arnechk I think this comment is referring more to "force" than "pressure". An airplane pulling 12+ G even for a second, could be at risk of the wings falling off. Why? Modern combat-ready manned fighter jets have pre programmed G force limits. No matter the training the pilot has, forces over 9G tend to cause the pilot to lose consciousness after a few seconds; this means building the wings to withstand higher G forces would be a waste (adding strength adds weight, and adding weight reduces range, turn performance, climb performance, & acceleration), but there's probably some margin of safety.
@luckyjamesa.valencia7095
@luckyjamesa.valencia7095 Місяць тому
@@Arnechk aerodynamic pressure, not the literal explotion from flammables and explosive materials, it was used as somekind of a metaphorical phrase. Its literal meaning is for the aircraft to be crushed by the overwhelming pressure of the air during its maneuver, in which the aircraft velocity and g force plays a big part as well.
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 Місяць тому
I watched this aircraft at the 1995 Paris air show once and it was mighty impressive. Almost balancing on its tail while moving sideways, I had never seen anything like it and have not since. Amazing aircraft.
@My_Name_Is_Mud.
@My_Name_Is_Mud. Місяць тому
Do you know what sort of aircraft this is?
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 Місяць тому
@@My_Name_Is_Mud. Yes ? It's the The Rockwell-Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm X-31 is an experimental jet aircraft designed to test fighter thrust vectoring technology. I got the information above from Wikipedia but I remember it well when it displayed at Paris. More commonly known as the X-31
@TheRealAaronSmith
@TheRealAaronSmith Місяць тому
I would have LOVED to see that in person, however, I'm lucky enough to at least seen videos before. Unbelievably impressive and precise technology.
@Novelpwnz
@Novelpwnz Місяць тому
U should check su27 , with fuel and missiles
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 Місяць тому
@@Novelpwnz I know the SU-27 as it displayed at Paris as well with a very well known display pilot from Russia. What I do know is it was in static display until the crew went round it with a spanner to check it was all tight, then pulled it out of the static to a taxiway and did a full display, Very impressive. I have also seen three SU-27 types displaying (flying) doing tailslides and cobras all at the same time at Farnborough in the UK, I have also seen them at Fairford at "R.I.A.T" like I said very impressive but in no way as agile and maneuverable as the X-31 but one is a test aircraft and the other is built for war so completely different but both are impressive in manoeuvrability.
@umueri1877
@umueri1877 Місяць тому
It mightve helped to show an offside view of the manoeuvre to get a scale of the flight path. Sort of like those scenes from History channels dogfight
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 Місяць тому
To give you an idea I watched this aircraft at the Paris airshow and it balanced on its tail while moving sideways (like a crab) and then did a slight tilt and with full power pulling away from the ground in a vertical motion, all from its balancing on its tail at around 150ft. It was massively impressive and I will never forget it.
@vigneshm6922
@vigneshm6922 23 дні тому
Loved those shows ❤
@Dokattak
@Dokattak Місяць тому
US military: “Slap some 300k paint primer, and we’re golden. Not F22 golden, but we’re getting there.”
@user-iz3gv7th6z
@user-iz3gv7th6z Місяць тому
Slap some *300k glitter paint on it*
@TrySomeFentanyl
@TrySomeFentanyl 27 днів тому
I believe the Russian military is better known for slapping paint on equipment and calling it a next generation. We actually design and build modern systems here in the US.
@utkarsh2746
@utkarsh2746 16 днів тому
Ah yes that modern F35 that struggles to handle rain. Just a bit over a trillion dollars now, right? Definitely reminds me of the Russians, the USSR era Russians wrecking their economy over military spending and having bases across the world. ​@@TrySomeFentanyl
@paradiseisland69
@paradiseisland69 Місяць тому
Herbst means Autumn or Fall in German.
@noone4700
@noone4700 Місяць тому
These shorts are just so damn good!
@luanasari5161
@luanasari5161 Місяць тому
Me top gun-maxxing:
@StupidFanta
@StupidFanta Місяць тому
acecombatmaxxing tho
@riley_ae86
@riley_ae86 Місяць тому
Ew
@UGNAvalon
@UGNAvalon Місяць тому
It’s a bit hard to see with the distant background providing very little reference point, but if I’m understanding this correctly, is the plane basically “stopping” at the height of a climb (hence “post-stall”), then rotating on a dime before burning into its new flight path?
@RealRyanFlynn
@RealRyanFlynn Місяць тому
Correct
@apieceofstring
@apieceofstring Місяць тому
It sounds a lot like this is the same as an Immelman, with the differences being that the rollout happens in the middle of the maneuver rather than at the end, and the top of the arc is conducted post-stall... But at the top of an Immelman an aircraft is already unloaded... Whats the benefit of post stall maneuverability if it's just being used in a situation where the aircraft is unloaded anyway? Thrust vectoring is inherently cool, but I feel like there's something missing in the explanation here.
@Arnechk
@Arnechk Місяць тому
@@apieceofstring for this to be viable it would have to be executed at a very close distance and no missiles. Even if the adversary has no vectoring gimmicks they can do an immelman and be on the tail again. But it looks cool and thats what counts!
@theregalproletariat
@theregalproletariat Місяць тому
​@@apieceofstringI think PSM tech makes the turn tighter.
@TexasGreed
@TexasGreed Місяць тому
@@apieceofstring The difference is this is done by committing to a climb that you know will stall you out and knowing your thrust vectoring will allow you to still maneuver at the top. If you know the guy chasing you doesnt have the energy to follow you and he doesnt have thrust vectoring like you then you know youre safe to commit to stalling yourself and thus if the enemy commits too, you stall him as well and can take him out. And if the enemy doesnt follow you into the climb you will still have a positional advantage over him when you turn around because he didnt climb as high as you.
@tedyu1735
@tedyu1735 Місяць тому
Ahh yes, a new manuver for me to try to perform in an airliner.
@slaughterhouse5585
@slaughterhouse5585 17 днів тому
You a pilot for RyanAir?
@sjiz
@sjiz Місяць тому
The most legendary manoeuvre is Adama Manoeuvre.. when the Battlestar falls through the planet's atmosphere and then jumps (all BSG fans will know :D)
@freddieclark
@freddieclark Місяць тому
basically an Immelman turn with post stall technology.
@giannismentz3570
@giannismentz3570 Місяць тому
No.
@user-pe1zs2pn4n
@user-pe1zs2pn4n Місяць тому
That is absolutely awesome!!!
@red_d849
@red_d849 Місяць тому
sadly the aircraft got destroyed after a loss of control due to pitot tube icing, making the computer see things incorrectly and try to do something it wasn’t supposed to, which forced the pilot to eject. crashed into the desert
@Overneed-Belkan-Witch
@Overneed-Belkan-Witch Місяць тому
F22 and F35: Ah yes, the AMRAAM main menu dish manuver
@crypto1146
@crypto1146 25 днів тому
🤣🤣🫡
@kookie_krumbs
@kookie_krumbs Місяць тому
Heck yeah pls do more aviation stuff. Immelmahn, herbst, i dont care keep it coming Edit: spelling
@jezoleum6948
@jezoleum6948 Місяць тому
Looks like a Flying Goblin Shark
@TheMattC9999
@TheMattC9999 Місяць тому
😂
@alexandersheridan2179
@alexandersheridan2179 19 днів тому
I can see it 😂
@alexandersheridan2179
@alexandersheridan2179 19 днів тому
I can see it 😂
@annabackman3028
@annabackman3028 26 днів тому
The Cobra isn't meant to turn, it's eventually done to surprise a following aircraft with a quick stop, to let the enemy pass, and you become the follower. The Cobra was a mistake, a little flaw with the Swedish Draken, J35, that super stalled, causing many accidents. However, pilots learned how to control and use it. They called it 'short parade'.
@musikSkool
@musikSkool 16 днів тому
"I fly my sky a quarter mile at a time."
@willywonka4340
@willywonka4340 Місяць тому
Never thought this channel would discuss jet fighter tactics 😂❤
@joseyglesias3743
@joseyglesias3743 Місяць тому
I am in love 😮 😍 ❤️
@shanegrass889
@shanegrass889 2 дні тому
It's also called the Yeager loop
@MisterRorschach90
@MisterRorschach90 Місяць тому
Those are some straight up battlestar galactica viper mk vii moves.
@howardtreesong4860
@howardtreesong4860 Місяць тому
This is an Immelmann named after Max Immelmann who did this in the first world war.
@duncanmcgee13
@duncanmcgee13 Місяць тому
No, an Immelmann is just an over the top u-turn. This maneuver is a stall where the pilot can pick any direction he wants to exit toward.
@giannismentz3570
@giannismentz3570 Місяць тому
@@duncanmcgee13 It's a u-turn, it's also post-stall. They are totally different.
@sportacus3978
@sportacus3978 23 дні тому
C'est un Rockwell MBB X31 a poussé vectorielle. Premier vol 11 Octobre 1990. Motorisation Général Électrique F 404 avec tuyère bidimentionnelle opérant sur les axes de lacet et de tangage.
@overseastom
@overseastom 13 днів тому
Thanks mate, I was wondering what model it was. It's beautiful!
@mitri5389
@mitri5389 Місяць тому
This maneuver was showcased in the ms dos game called janes fighter anthology using the same aircraft.
@TheRyujinLP
@TheRyujinLP 24 дні тому
AKA, the gravity is just a state of mind man maneuver
@koimananana
@koimananana 18 днів тому
Gotta love vector paddles
@kotaroyamada4272
@kotaroyamada4272 3 дні тому
I remember there is another country developing this engine. It is Japan and they are building F3 engine.
@ramonpunsalang3397
@ramonpunsalang3397 10 днів тому
Apparently, the F-35 can execute the J-turn
@Furukan455
@Furukan455 Місяць тому
Postal? **PTSD**
@HopeisAnger
@HopeisAnger Місяць тому
Look, I'm not a pilot or an expert in this area, but every pilot and expert I've met said "speed is life". If speed is life, then this looks like certain death.
@ryantaylor1142
@ryantaylor1142 Місяць тому
Great short
@fortiusgomez7216
@fortiusgomez7216 28 днів тому
I guess I found the maneuver of the game Modern Warplanes.
@nicolaspeigne1429
@nicolaspeigne1429 Місяць тому
When you don't know where to go so you stop in midair and look around
@DOCBIGB
@DOCBIGB 17 днів тому
It also contributed to emphasis on pre flight check routines as frost pedotube led to catastrophic failure of one of two x31 which were predecessors of eurofighter typhoon.
@bashbish4564
@bashbish4564 Місяць тому
🇩🇪 🇺🇸
@armymanaka360
@armymanaka360 Місяць тому
ac main character energy
@glike2
@glike2 Місяць тому
VECTOR X-31 flight test program was an incredible experience for me and an amazing international team to work with including the Boeing engineers and program management.
@-_Random_-.
@-_Random_-. 6 днів тому
i am a new subscriber, can you please do a Kvovhur bell maneuver?
@mrmattdoesstuff
@mrmattdoesstuff 20 днів тому
Ngl, imma try this in war thunder 😂😂😂
@chrissheppo
@chrissheppo Місяць тому
Ofcourse it would be a German to invent this.
@TheGamingMotionTGM
@TheGamingMotionTGM Місяць тому
Herbst in german means "fall" as in fall season before winter. Unless if the inventor of this manuever is named Herbst.
@denniskrenz2080
@denniskrenz2080 Місяць тому
​@@TheGamingMotionTGMit is, as the short tells you. Wolfgang Herbst was among the pioneers of Post-stall technology and initiator of the precursor of the X-31 already, the Rockwell SNAKE. He died two years before the X-31 executed one of his maneuvers in real life.
@BrianHollingerSHTF
@BrianHollingerSHTF 22 дні тому
So the "I almost fucking crashed" was named the Herbst Maneuver? Got it.
@JamesM-pu8bl
@JamesM-pu8bl Місяць тому
This is the shit I pull in war thunder arcade battles
@dutchdragon2472
@dutchdragon2472 Місяць тому
It's easier in realistic, since in arcade you basically don't stall. Ironic, right?
@Arnechk
@Arnechk Місяць тому
@@dutchdragon2472 even easier in sim where the enemy cannot just point and click at you.
@dutchdragon2472
@dutchdragon2472 Місяць тому
@@Arnechk Yeah, snapping to targets is infinitely easier with mouse control. Though you won't lose anything yourself since you basically need full real for the maneuver anyway.
@ABCXYZG
@ABCXYZG 26 днів тому
i do this in game mostly, never knew it got a name lol
@user-hi7jk6fu3f
@user-hi7jk6fu3f Місяць тому
The pilot casually absorbing negative g’s at the end of the maneuver 🙃🙂
@ThinkingPear410
@ThinkingPear410 29 днів тому
I don’t think the pilot would be subjected to much negative g’s at that point as the plane looks very slow, it is more of a problem in the first part but with positive g’s. I’m not an expert though
@nobodyisbest
@nobodyisbest Місяць тому
There's a video online of an F-22 performing a similar almost 180 degree turn.
@nguyensonbinh8621
@nguyensonbinh8621 Місяць тому
Could you do video about weapon during vietnam war?
@user-fv3wp7pz3t
@user-fv3wp7pz3t Місяць тому
I bet this is what those ufo sightings where they say, “it changed directions, impossibly fast!” Actually are
@Mr2915Official
@Mr2915Official Місяць тому
This maneuver works pretty good in Warthunder.
@floatingsandbox6147
@floatingsandbox6147 23 дні тому
its also related to the immelman turn
@stelleratorsuprise8185
@stelleratorsuprise8185 24 дні тому
Interesting ... Btw.: I first thought it was an April's Fool joke, 'cause the name Herbst Manouver was a very common nane for NATO manouvers in Autum (Hebst) so I did some research in Wikipedia Dr. Wolfgang Herbst was killed during an accident in a scaled down replica of a FW190.
@angelmarinarenas5626
@angelmarinarenas5626 24 дні тому
I once did this in a dogfight (I forgot in what game, I think it was war thunder) and everyone just gave up after I launched 3 missiles and got 3 kills (it was 1v6)
@KennethArriola
@KennethArriola Місяць тому
Ah, another awesome maneuver that would most likely get you killed in an actual dogfight 😂
@maybe4549
@maybe4549 Місяць тому
You know shit is real when they include pitch down in the maneuver, instead of an inverted pitch up💀
@MuteSpider63393
@MuteSpider63393 26 днів тому
Bro, this maneuver doesn’t require any thrust vectoring whatsoever. Infact you don’t even have to post stall. It’s literally just going vertical and applying some of the rudder. Almost like 1 circle fights exist
@rosemaryandrews1347
@rosemaryandrews1347 22 дні тому
Oh wow !!
@traviscaines8534
@traviscaines8534 Місяць тому
You would be trading off all momentum and virtually starting from zero. A very energy expensive maneuver.
@overseastom
@overseastom 13 днів тому
This jet is beautiful - can any of y'all identify it for me?
@ramuz-ff3cf
@ramuz-ff3cf Місяць тому
verdadero mucho gracias
@hungryhungryplatypus8602
@hungryhungryplatypus8602 Місяць тому
Wolfgang wore his brown flight suit that day.
@jay_tripp
@jay_tripp 25 днів тому
Having this accent 100% of the time would be exhausting
@d261_gaming8
@d261_gaming8 Місяць тому
Think of it as a sharp u turn that is corrected with thrust
@jermany8019
@jermany8019 16 днів тому
Try not to ace combat challenge (impossible + gone wrong) ☠️
@omarjassar4650
@omarjassar4650 Місяць тому
Does he ever turn off the afterburner ??
@junkiat8328
@junkiat8328 Місяць тому
Hollup isn’t Messerschmitt the guy who designed the first jet plane which is also called the Messerschmitt?
@sjoerdjuxta
@sjoerdjuxta Місяць тому
👍👍👍
@bulletbullet3280
@bulletbullet3280 Місяць тому
Love the x31 so sad it was canceled
@irfanhafizhbuntoro3772
@irfanhafizhbuntoro3772 Місяць тому
ngl I thought it's J-10A
@bulletbullet3280
@bulletbullet3280 Місяць тому
@@irfanhafizhbuntoro3772 it was a joint cooperation between America and Germany in building this jet you can tell because it looks foreign
@Hexstream
@Hexstream Місяць тому
Reminiscent of Starfox 64...
@Bryan-cd9cl
@Bryan-cd9cl Місяць тому
The question is...why They not produced this aircraft in Serial 😢
@longnosedog1487
@longnosedog1487 24 дні тому
Herps? I have the Herps big time😀
@pvajit1109
@pvajit1109 25 днів тому
Flat spin executed by Su57 is more Impressive. The wings of this aircraft would fall off if it tried that. Flat spin gives Su57 360 degrees attack capabilities. Remember, Fighter jets need high angle of attack for its guns. However 360 degrees attack access is more useful for launching missiles at chaser and hypersonic AA missiles are end of an engagement.
@justincase5272
@justincase5272 Місяць тому
Yeah, well, in the bush we perfected a similarly effective, 3D canyon turn by combining it with a whifferdill, all while keeping both bank and pitch within FAA non-aerobatic requirements.
@HelioLhama
@HelioLhama 13 днів тому
No acrobatics that leave you at 0 energy will be effective in real combat. Reversing your circle on a simple roll is already enough angular stability to make a gun or fox 2 solution viable. Edit: unless REALLY specific scenarios not even the all mighties of the thrust vectoring Flankers have been using any post stall manoeuvre in recent air combat
@ashtonia
@ashtonia Місяць тому
Janes ATF. That is all ❤
@NestorKYAT
@NestorKYAT Місяць тому
What sim is this?
@shroom903
@shroom903 11 днів тому
Giving up a lot of energy
@ReemFireGaming
@ReemFireGaming Місяць тому
Can you try this in War thunder 😂
@Snipergoat1
@Snipergoat1 Місяць тому
Looks like another variation on the yo yo. A Method of making a fast turn during aerial combat since before WW2. The thrust vectoring might add a bit of a twist to it but the form and execution look almost identical.
@BillKermanKSP
@BillKermanKSP Місяць тому
For the Herbst Maneuver you need a TWR of >1, which I doubt any WW2 plane would have had
@androidrebel
@androidrebel Місяць тому
Is it a really useful manoeuvre anyway? It would bleed out all speed and leave the plane to accelerate almost from standstill...
@chibidakis1
@chibidakis1 Місяць тому
Ace combat 4 fans know this maneuver 💀
@beowulfhrothgar
@beowulfhrothgar Місяць тому
This aircraft looks like J10
@gabriel.giorno
@gabriel.giorno Місяць тому
drones soon will be able to do these tests, no need to risk pilots life anymore
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 Місяць тому
👍👍
@Irobert1115HD
@Irobert1115HD Місяць тому
the cobra is most viable in dog fights with planes that only have guns.
@multiHappyHacker
@multiHappyHacker Місяць тому
I had assumed they meant modern BVR type engagements they would have aircraft releasing their missiles and then going elsewhere.
@off_grid_javelin
@off_grid_javelin Місяць тому
A looping cobra or kvochurs bell can do pretty much that as well
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 Місяць тому
I watched this aircraft fly at the Paris airshow in 1995 and trust me it can do a heck of a lot more weird and amazing twists and turns than just this video. I watched it balance on its tail while moving sideways then pulling away virtually it was unbelievable all at around 150-200 ft it just blew my mind as a kid.
@JohnViinalass-lc1ow
@JohnViinalass-lc1ow 17 днів тому
whew!
@annedejong1040
@annedejong1040 Місяць тому
mig 29 and it's in Maverick's Su-57ish
@that_Dominic_guy
@that_Dominic_guy 18 днів тому
Where are the stabilizers and elevators
@manwitduhplan
@manwitduhplan Місяць тому
trying use this in warthunder is how to get severe damage almost instantly
@saschapriyambodo7250
@saschapriyambodo7250 Місяць тому
Ace Combat pilots : "Noobs."
@Generalsabre
@Generalsabre 24 дні тому
Belkan.
@cap.meruwkateklimana8321
@cap.meruwkateklimana8321 Місяць тому
I wanted to be featured in Ace Combat 8!!!
@Kosh800
@Kosh800 11 днів тому
Those negative Gs are giving me a head ache just watching it.
@user-ot4ch4qh9c
@user-ot4ch4qh9c Місяць тому
litteraly a russian cobra, that was made famous by the russians
@spaceageGecko
@spaceageGecko Місяць тому
The cobra isn’t Russian.
@DzinkyDzink
@DzinkyDzink Місяць тому
How much better or worse than a simple Immelman turn? Looks to bleed all the speed which Immelman at least turns into altitude.
@gamergaming6604
@gamergaming6604 12 днів тому
Belkan witchcraft technology
@eduardblackbeard3913
@eduardblackbeard3913 Місяць тому
That engine was not thrust vectoring lol
@Alexei-oc1he
@Alexei-oc1he Місяць тому
цирковой номер для 1993 года за счёт тяги двигателя и угла атаки с переворотом благодаря носовым закрылкам
@davedevonlad7402
@davedevonlad7402 Місяць тому
In the modern sense then no, but it was thrust vectoring as the "doors" at the back deflected the thrust so the aircraft could perform outlandishly crazy turns that Many others could not at the time. Remember it was a test and demonstration aircraft so was developed to different standards as other aircraft but in the general sense it did have "thrust vectoring" as it was built for testing just that.
@PhullyNo1
@PhullyNo1 Місяць тому
Then the X31 fell from the sky. Thee end.
@Hopeforhumans
@Hopeforhumans Місяць тому
I couldn't get it, I need a drawing
@sunayansamanta5454
@sunayansamanta5454 18 днів тому
😮
@Bezanthemum
@Bezanthemum Місяць тому
The visuals on this video are severely lacking. Show the actual maneuver in a way we can see what’s happening.
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