Hitting with BABE RUTH & HONUS WAGNER's 40-ounce Wood Bats

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The Baseball Bat Bros

The Baseball Bat Bros

6 місяців тому

Today we're trying out a couple bats from American Batsmith's new Vintage Collection - these bats replicate the exact turn model, wood species, and weight/length of the bats used by Babe Ruth, Shoeless Joe Jackson, Jackie Robinson, Honus Wagner, Mickey Mantle, and a few others.
We're gonna see if these ancient wood bats can perform with a high-end maple wood bat from the modern-era!
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@theotherguymax9189
@theotherguymax9189 5 місяців тому
Ill never get tired of hearing the sound of a wooden bat
@berndtherrenvolk1951
@berndtherrenvolk1951 3 місяці тому
I'm 70 years old. I can always recall the sound of a wooden bat really clocking a fastball, the smell of healthy green grass being cut, songbirds filling the trees at dawn, and a trout stream trickling hard over smooth rocks.
@benignobrionesiii
@benignobrionesiii 3 місяці тому
Never.
@billc9686
@billc9686 2 місяці тому
Look up Ohtani/Cease
@captainryusugi1128
@captainryusugi1128 2 місяці тому
I use ash with softball. It feels good, sounds good, and is just good.
@Seryma86
@Seryma86 Місяць тому
Same, especially in the hands of a dude like this who can just rip
@Tevatron044
@Tevatron044 5 місяців тому
I'm so glad you are exploring the old school baseball bats. My friend Mathew and I have researched deep into this topic and have come to interesting theories and understandings You have to remember that Shoeless Joe and Honus Wagner played in an era where the balls where sponges that could end up with over 2oz of spit and tobacco mass so you wouldn't be trying to swing with bat speed. Time to contact and hitting consistency where the 2 important qualities and the power all came from the bat's mass, not the pitch. The babe Ruth's live ball era balls were pretty friggin hard and can match even today's balls in firmness. That being said, the late era mickey mantle bat is very similar to the 110 model and it's shorter too, so it's heavy but it's balanced About the different woods, stiffness increases mishit performance but also increases sting. As density goes up, stiffness goes up, but so does mass. . Mass decreases sting. This can counteract the sting with the right balance of density so certain woods do well in higher densities while others struggle. Hickory is very stiff so when it's light, the sting is abysmal, whereas birch, maple, and ash thrives. In higher densities, birch and hickory are the only 2 viable options. Forget about maple for anything below 42 pcf or above 48 pcf (pounds per cubic foot)
@billcook4768
@billcook4768 5 місяців тому
And no batting glove in Ruth’s day.
@ShinyPigrat
@ShinyPigrat 5 місяців тому
Incredibly well-written comment
@michaeldoran4367
@michaeldoran4367 5 місяців тому
My name is Honus. My brother's name is Anus and my sister's name is Eenus. Honus, Anus, and Eenus
@jimallen19
@jimallen19 5 місяців тому
yes deadball era
@StanStacks
@StanStacks 5 місяців тому
Thank you for the great info
@baltojo
@baltojo 5 місяців тому
I once swung Babe Ruth's actual bat, and yes, it was heavy. I also met his daughter and granddaughter on his 100th birthday. Those were some pretty exciting experiences.
@icmman7
@icmman7 5 місяців тому
i started at age 13 with a 28-29...bwahahahaha.
@scruffydog2
@scruffydog2 5 місяців тому
They have one at Louisville Slugger Museum you can hold with gloves.😊
@Studgunners
@Studgunners 5 місяців тому
How did the Babe look at 100 years of age?
@scruffydog2
@scruffydog2 5 місяців тому
@@Studgunners The bat looked good.
@baltojo
@baltojo 5 місяців тому
@@Studgunners He was not able to attend.
@robertflint4115
@robertflint4115 Місяць тому
People tend to forget Babe Ruth also pitched for 10 years of his career and held a 2.28 lifetime ERA. Played for 22 years and along with his 714 HR's had a .342 batting average.
@frank1908
@frank1908 5 днів тому
He also smoked 6 packs of cigarettes a day. Respect for doing that with those lungs.
@christmashake8968
@christmashake8968 5 місяців тому
Even with pitchers having lower velocity back in the day than today, I still feel this video REALLY speaks to how freakishly strong and powerful people like Ruth and Mantle were back in their heyday. I can definitely understand where some of the legends of their light-tower power come from with bats like these.
@MariposaEdits
@MariposaEdits 5 місяців тому
Not really babe ruth explained it pretty well. You do not make what is called a home run hack with those bats. You either rotate around your back foot to get a little more power or you slap hit the ball. With those bats a slap hit will look like a well hit line drive today. The pitching was also much slower. We have 14 year old kids pitching now as fast as the top end guys in the mlb during this time. Game has just changed and is not comparable.
@derekv6479
@derekv6479 5 місяців тому
@@MariposaEdits That's bs. The grown human form has not changed in any significant way in 150 years. Listen to the modern scenario of the speeds an adolescent boy can hit you just described , which is true, and tell me that the comparison to what grown men could only do 120 years ago is not ridiculous on the face of it. Expurts. lol
@liam3104
@liam3104 5 місяців тому
it makes plenty of sense. look at how much faster people run the 100 now compared to 120 years ago, the record in 1891 was only 10.8 seconds and the record for 13 year old boys in the modern era is 10.82 seconds. not to mention guys having much more optimal swings and you can watch online how the best players in the world swing and aim for that. plus kids these days are going to the gym at an early age and become quite strong quickly. not to mention the world having a higher population and more people playing sport, means the higher chance of producing outstanding athletes. which all means grown men hit the ball much harder than anyone in babes era. sure there have been very strong men in every era but its just not comparable to the optimization today. who knows if babe ruth was born 25 years ago he might hit the ball harder than anyone ever seen but thats a hypothetical.
@derekv6479
@derekv6479 5 місяців тому
@@liam3104 No man. That just proves the same point. The difference between the fastest 100 m runner in the world in the 1800s is a only second less than the one today. That's an 11% besting. Humans are not silicon. There is no moores law for human ability. I think the point you may have is the amount of people trying. You will get a concentration of more and higher skilled people depending on that whole number. I think it's pretty safe to say that an entire nation of grown men trying to throw their hardest will always have people throwing and the high 90s at the very least No matter the time period. Not sure the amount of effort and participation of track and field generally during the 1800s. I think we all know the participation rate of baseball in this country then though. There were a lot of people throwing in the mid to high 90s by the 1920s
@derekv6479
@derekv6479 5 місяців тому
@@liam3104 Another point about this is that everyone's arguments are just that. My reasoning for thinking this has just as much proof as the experts and theirs. No one actually knows. 75-80 mph. Lol That's patently stupid. Put your faith in those expurts though. I'll choose give that group the credibility they've earned in this modern age.
@jamesmir89
@jamesmir89 5 місяців тому
The sound of the bat hitting the ball is such a beautiful sound.
@dantwomey4215
@dantwomey4215 5 місяців тому
Amazing isn't it?😅 It just gets you off!😅
@jamesmir89
@jamesmir89 5 місяців тому
@@dantwomey4215 literally washing my hands right now after cleaning myself up buddy.
@MrFrezeFrame
@MrFrezeFrame 5 місяців тому
I could watch this guy hit home runs for hours. He’s awesome
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 4 місяці тому
I played golf much more than baseball and I always used wooden woods, and the sound and feel is great. (solid persimmon)
@paulvon2378
@paulvon2378 4 місяці тому
he played in MLB for Braves?
@bosoxfan2525
@bosoxfan2525 3 місяці тому
Who is he? I'm guessing an ex-pro at some level. He's got a great swing whoever he is!
@berndtherrenvolk1951
@berndtherrenvolk1951 3 місяці тому
Yes, it's fun to watch him swing the bat. He knows how to hit.
@rickmontgomery3037
@rickmontgomery3037 2 місяці тому
Agreed, this is my first time seeing one of his videos, curious who he is also...@@bosoxfan2525
@franktatom1837
@franktatom1837 5 місяців тому
The ash wood that was available for bats from 100 years ago through the 60's was from slow growth northern forests and the wood was more closely grained and dense than wood that is now available. I had some ash bats made in the 60's (if not earlier - one was a Jackie Robinson model) and a friend's brother-in-law that played AAA ball loaned us his bats ( this was in the 80's). Believe me, there was no comparison - the modern bats vibrated like mad on impact and had little action compared to the old ash bats.
@wallacegrommet9343
@wallacegrommet9343 5 місяців тому
Each growth ring is like a lamination, increasing strength and flexibility without compromising durability. Think of the bat as a cylindrical leaf spring!
@mculver
@mculver 4 місяці тому
What a great piece of ash!! 😂
@user-dl5qc6fb4u
@user-dl5qc6fb4u 3 місяці тому
You are correct, sir. How I know is because I play pool and the same thing happened with pool cues except that the shift happened noticeably in the 80s. They were the last things to get that good old growth wood because it's way more profitable to make high end cues with it. Wish I still had my Meucci from back then.
@philvaclavik6890
@philvaclavik6890 3 місяці тому
I lucked into four Jackie Robinson bats in the early seventies. Used them in seniors and then on the freshmen team
@bigloaded8324
@bigloaded8324 Місяць тому
You’re exactly right. They mentioned that on the tour I went on at the Louisville Slugger museum and factory.
@stevenbaker43
@stevenbaker43 5 місяців тому
6:45 man had his life flash before his eyes.lol😂
@mattjohnson267
@mattjohnson267 5 місяців тому
It’s also important to remember that Honus Wagner and shoeless Joe Jackson both played baseball during what’s called the “dead ball” era. They were not attempting to hit home runs with every swing most baseball was played within the three bases and part of what revolutionized baseball was the change in bat size that Babe Ruth would go on to use.
@WhippJunior
@WhippJunior 5 місяців тому
It'd be interesting to see "The Bros" get a hold of some dead ball era balls to use with these bats.
@mrFiiSKiiS
@mrFiiSKiiS 4 місяці тому
Should also mention that pitchers in the 20s were throwing in the low 90mph range at best.
@berndtherrenvolk1951
@berndtherrenvolk1951 3 місяці тому
@@WhippJunior If you just squint and look hard at a contemporary baseball, it jumps out of the park.
@thewolfdoctor761
@thewolfdoctor761 2 місяці тому
@@berndtherrenvolk1951 I've check swings where the balls make it out to the warning track.
@selfdo
@selfdo 2 місяці тому
Ruth's bat indeed was a LOG by today's standards, but big bats were actually common. Not for power, as most hitters could not generate the bat speed that Ruth could, but for CONTACT...i.e., let the mass of the bat itself transfer momentum to the ball.
@CheekyMenace
@CheekyMenace 5 місяців тому
My grandma's maiden name was Wagner and Honus was her second cousin. We were never quite sure if it was true but since the internet era we were able to track family history records and confirm it.
@casualcasualty1867
@casualcasualty1867 4 місяці тому
One of the very best ever, pretty cool!
@Garrett1240
@Garrett1240 2 місяці тому
When was your Grandma born? Honus was born in 1874. I imagine her relationship was a bit more distant.
@CheekyMenace
@CheekyMenace 2 місяці тому
@@Garrett1240 She was born in 1915 in a small town about 20 minutes outside of Pittsburgh, PA. Right in the middle of WW1 raging on. She moved to the city later on early in her life. Pretty much my entire family history has been born in and stayed in the Pittsburgh area all their lives and we are still here now. And yeah, she didn't actually know Honus directly being that he was a second cousin. She passed away in 2002. How we confirmed it... Through an online family tree thing we found the name of a direct cousin of hers, Fred Wagner, who also played baseball in the Pittsburgh area in the early 1900s. We then found an old newspaper article about Fred going to play for a Johnstown, PA baseball team and the article referred to him as the "cousin of Hans" and further discussed their relation. So through that it confirms Honus being a second cousin to my grandma.
@88cutty
@88cutty 3 місяці тому
I played in 18+ woodbat league for about 10 years. Most of the guys were close to half my age and were using all the current trends in bats like maple and composite. Being a child of the 80s, I insited on taking an old school approach. I started using Louisville slugger ash but i was breaking about 5 bats a season. I started to do more research and found a small bat company that had all this information posted on their page. Bear valley bats. In my analysis of the information they provided, i decided to have them make me 1 ash and 1 yellow birch. The yellow birch is a 33" 30oz bat. Very similar to the Easton Black magic i used growing up in regards to barrel, handle and weigh distribution. I absolutely love the way balls jump off that bat. Im not a power hitter but i feel that bat has put more life into my hitting. I used it for 6 seasons and still havent cracked it (aprx 70-80 ABs a year). It actually hits the opposite of ash. With ash you have to hit with the grain where as with yellow birch, you hit against the grain. The science behind bat materials is really interesting when you get into it.
@mikebrase5161
@mikebrase5161 2 місяці тому
I still have my Easton 34/31 Black Magic. I didn't start hitting home runs until I used the Black Magic. I've coached and umped a bit over the last 30 years the Black Magic is still the best IMHO.
@88cutty
@88cutty 2 місяці тому
@@mikebrase5161 i had a 33" 30 oz. Black magic and then later on an easton EA70 alloy 34"31oz. It was gold and maroon with a maroon leather grip. Still have both.
@mikebrase5161
@mikebrase5161 2 місяці тому
@@88cutty my Freshman year I used a Black Magic 33/30 loaner but i started to pull the ball to much, it was the year I really started to hit the weights. I bought the 34/31 before the season started my sophomore year and used it til I quit playing. If you know you know hitting it square on the STO of Easton meant moon shot. My mom passed recently and I totally forgot about my HS warmup jacket. It has been in the basement since I left home in '93. I have it to my 12 yo daughter, it's the one I had the year we won state. Baseball starts back up this month can't wait.
@88cutty
@88cutty 2 місяці тому
@@mikebrase5161 i used to hold a bat by the knob and let it dangle. I would take a ball and tap the bat till i found the sweetest spot and you are dead on about that bat. Right around that "T" was the pinpoint spot. I played till i was 20. Then i spent 12 years in the Pgh Pirates front office in ticket ops. After i left there i started playing ball again. I played from 33 till 40 in a 18+ woodbat league. 45 now. I can definitely still hit, probably better than ever but all the rest is breaking down. Shoulder hurts, leg muscles cramp up. Etc. Semi-sedintary jobs will do that.
@mikebrase5161
@mikebrase5161 2 місяці тому
@@88cutty I went in the Army right out of HS blew out both my shoulders. I umpire a 40 and over league. I can't even throw the ball to the pitcher as an ump I just hand it to the catcher and let him do all the work. Bei g an Infantryman for 20 years was hard on the shoulders neck and lower back. I feel a lot older than my 49 years. As Indy said in Raiders it's not the age it's the mileage.
@JessCorey
@JessCorey 5 місяців тому
Thank you guys for giving The Babe and the Mick their proper respect, you guys are products of modern baseball, and that's no fault of yours but I profoundly appreciate you giving props to the forbearers of so many baseball players who were inspired by the previous generations of players like the Babe and Mickey, Joe Jackson, Honus Wagoner and so many others who are unnamed and named in the Hall of Fame. I feel don't get respect from folks your age, and it makes me happy to see. ----- PS: I was a music/sound editor for about 12 years, so I broke down your video and I absolutely love the fact that through 43 seconds (after removing talking, reactions, background noise and the sound of the pitch machine) you can hear the difference between the Mantle, the Ruth, the Wagoner and the Jackson bats. For my musicians ear, I love the sound of the Wagoner bat, the Mantle, and the Ruth that the most. You can feel the weight behind Mantle and Ruth and just hear how strong they were, the Wagoner bat gives you the feel of someone who was calculating in the way that he swung a clean crisp sound off that bat. Jackson was a bit of both but just wanted to add some thoughts to my comment.
@tommyriam8320
@tommyriam8320 Місяць тому
Who's _'Wagoner'_ ?
@martinw28703
@martinw28703 3 місяці тому
Old Baseball players are some of the most hard nosed, toughest SOB’s who ever lived. Swinging these literal trees….unreal they were able to do what they did. ❤❤❤
@NeilWatkinsfromaccounting
@NeilWatkinsfromaccounting Місяць тому
I kinda feel like men were just tougher in general back then.
@jordansoviet23
@jordansoviet23 Місяць тому
​@@NeilWatkinsfromaccounting yes indeed men back then are tougher because there's little or no comfort that's available to them compared it today.
@NeilWatkinsfromaccounting
@NeilWatkinsfromaccounting 29 днів тому
@@jordansoviet23 hard times make strong men.
@JoeRogansForehead
@JoeRogansForehead 21 день тому
As a ww1 medal oh honor winner I will say this is 100% a fact. Baseball players are so much stronger and tougher than the boys I met in the trenches . If I had 1,000 babe Ruth’s next to me in the Argon Forrest we would have won all by ourselves .
@JoeRogansForehead
@JoeRogansForehead 21 день тому
@@jordansoviet23you youngsters will never know the glowing red comfort of your dad beating you with his leather belt because you only split 200 logs by breakfast time and not the 300 like he asked for . Ah the good old days
@slappylippy
@slappylippy 5 місяців тому
Always wanted to see this done. As an old player this video was a real blessing, thank you dudes.
@Tr-fj4hr
@Tr-fj4hr 5 місяців тому
Now Imagine the wrist and forearm strength it took to solidly connect on a Carl Hubbell screwball down in the zone with one of those big flint stones bats 😂
@BIGJATPSU
@BIGJATPSU 5 місяців тому
And that makes a great point. Since those were the bats of the Era, that's what people used and their body mechanics and muscles adapted to it. Mass equals gas, that physics applies in any field truly. What doesn't getting mentioned as often, but clearly demonstrated when he went back to HIS bat, is the repition and muscle memory. I have ZERO doubts if used and practiced with constantly players COULD use bigger and heavier bats and also hit today's pitching. The scary thing is we amaze ourselved when an exit velocity hits 120, imagine a Judge or Stanton using Babe's bat after being used to it for years, they might be hitting 135-140!
@75aces97
@75aces97 4 місяці тому
I've wondered about that. Guys like Ruth, Wagner, Josh Gibson, Shoeless Joe wouldn't have lifted weights, but they must have had gravedigger wrist/forearm/grip strength.
@jayss10
@jayss10 19 днів тому
Different people back then.
@adamturner8732
@adamturner8732 5 місяців тому
You have to understand those bats were so dense. And they got real strong using then. If you look at guys like mantle and ghrirg they were cut from granite stone. Just massively strong.
@yell0wberry
@yell0wberry 5 місяців тому
Yes, I agree, we can even go all the way down to when Reggie Jackson hit the transformer at tiger stadium then years later, when he was trying to get off the field at the conclusion of the World Series and average fans were bouncing off of him like rubber balls
@richardmorris7063
@richardmorris7063 5 місяців тому
Big wrists & forearms.
@JessCorey
@JessCorey 5 місяців тому
Lou Gherig, Ted Williams, Ty Cobb, Joe Jackson all....cut from stone man...I love watching any footage I can find...
@mitch5944
@mitch5944 5 місяців тому
And ruth... oh wait he was built like my uncle 😭
@billsager5634
@billsager5634 5 місяців тому
Mantle got strong from swinging a sledgehammer in the mines as a teenager. Gehrig played football at Columbia. Jimmy Foxx got his strength from bailing hay on the family farm - which he continued to do even during his playing career. These greats were the Goliaths in a world of Davids
@randylackey8294
@randylackey8294 5 місяців тому
I'm 46 and I laughed when Will said "This is a good piece of Ash" @2:41. I've obviously been around HS baseball players too much.
@spankynater4242
@spankynater4242 5 місяців тому
He really tapped that ash.
@michaelreimer951
@michaelreimer951 5 місяців тому
Was at a Tigers game in 2018 and was able to handle a game used Ty Cobb bat for a few dollars and some loaned white gloves. Always neat experience, his wasn't over 40oz, but it gives you a greater appreciation what these guys accomplished when handling the equipment they used daily
@sammyweed4771
@sammyweed4771 5 місяців тому
Mr Cobb is my favorite player and the best all time in MY Opinion
@adamcashion4738
@adamcashion4738 5 місяців тому
It's probably the best video I've watched on bats. Super cool to see what the old bats were like compared to modern Era wood. Thanks guys
@keithconrad3237
@keithconrad3237 5 місяців тому
Great video and you did a great job with the larger bats. 39-40 ounces is a log, and people don’t realize how thick the handles are on those models - almost like grabbing a barrel of a modern bat. Guys like a Ruth, Aaron, Dick Allen who used larger bats.. tipped the bat down towards the plate to help get more momentum with the larger bats. Very cool video and thanks for sharing.
@patrickgoodman4576
@patrickgoodman4576 5 місяців тому
Also Richie Allen swung a 35/40 on bat too and he got around on faster pitching. I also think that avg velo was probably like between 85/95 because Ted Williams was the one that said it takes 4/10 of a sec for fastball to reach home plate. And he played from 1939-1960. Just into the live ball era and he pretty much saw all of the great hitters and pitchers. He also came up swinging a 35/35 oz bat and he was the one who started the light bat revolution
@retrohollywoodmotionpictures
@retrohollywoodmotionpictures 5 місяців тому
Ted Willams in his prime would be the best hitter today, IMHO, no player understood hitting like he did, smartest hitter of all-time. His OBP of .485 lifetime will never broken. Only Ruth came close to that. Imagine what those two would do with today's training tools and regimens. If Ruth could hit it 500' then without PEDs, he'd probably hit one 580 with them.
@roxrolldog
@roxrolldog 5 місяців тому
DICK ALLEN hit a ton ! On breaking balls too !
@mitch5944
@mitch5944 5 місяців тому
It's crazy how ahead of his time Ted was with his swing lol. Kyle Tucker of the Astros uses Ted's pretty much exact swing to great success in today's league.
@retrohollywoodmotionpictures
@retrohollywoodmotionpictures 5 місяців тому
Tucker knows a good thing when he sees it, unlike most major league hitters today.@@mitch5944
@anonymike8280
@anonymike8280 3 місяці тому
The live ball was introduced in 1914.
@johncool1
@johncool1 5 місяців тому
kudos to you..just watching the all time greats with the bats used in their deadball era to the live era was so entertaining and just to learn a thing or 2 was so cool of you..i am now a fan of your work.
@brettlawlor8921
@brettlawlor8921 5 місяців тому
This was a really fun video! I love seeing vintage things come to life in this modern era.
@derekdaniel3900
@derekdaniel3900 3 місяці тому
Now imagine these legends of yesteryear hitting with no batting gloves or in some cases leather work gloves that were soaking wet from sweat. Their hands had to be solid calluses. Loved the video and the “crack” of those old bats. My dad had an old Jackie Robinson model that he used in college and I used it as a warm up bat because it was heavier than anything I could put a donut on. The thickness of the handle was always crazy.
@DaveFerguson-vh5fn
@DaveFerguson-vh5fn Місяць тому
You hear so many stories/examples of greatness but having guys use a model of your own bat a full century after your prime while the world watches on in awe is one of the best examples of what a legacy truly is...... long live the great bambino! ⚾️🙌🏻⚾️
@redrocket4853
@redrocket4853 5 місяців тому
Richie/Dick Allen swung a 40 ounce also, If you'd have ever seen him swing a bat live (I did in 1976) you would just marvel at how smooth, yet quick his bat speed was.
@ConstipatedTree
@ConstipatedTree 5 місяців тому
I’m happy that for over a decade I haven’t been lying to people about how heavy these bats used to be back in the day.
@billybilly3777
@billybilly3777 5 місяців тому
As a 155 lb HS senior, wood bat era, I batted lead off using a 34 oz. Louisville Slugger Willy McCovey model gripped at the handle. A big bat for a little guy. Another guy on our team used a 36 oz. Adirondack bat. Nothing like the sound when you centered a pitch with those bats.
@chee6060
@chee6060 5 місяців тому
When I played High School, ball, I used a 36 Oz, 35 length bat. Would always swing the three heaviest bats on the on deck circle getting ready to bat. When You did & then got ready to hit at the plate, the bat you were using would seen much lighter & therefore Your swing was much less straining & you had more control because the bat seemed so much lighter. You were able to jump on a fastball much better and also had better bat control for the curve ball.
@billybilly3777
@billybilly3777 4 місяці тому
With so many reps, it didn't feel heavy. You had bad speed or you didn't.@@chee6060
@risboturbide9396
@risboturbide9396 5 місяців тому
One of the coolest baseball video ever! I had a big smile when you went shoeless while holding Joe Jackson's bat model. Well done!
@johnisouth6636
@johnisouth6636 5 місяців тому
Please keep doing these. This is great!
@johndreker1613
@johndreker1613 5 місяців тому
Great video and the Ruth talk adds a lot of context. Old players had shorter swings and tried to avoid strikeouts, but they were also used to the bat weights. Someone who just picks one up for a video could get used to it over time. If you played back in the 1920s as a kid, you would work your way up from a heavier bat to start. People now are looking for bat speed, as they are being programmed to worry about launch angle and exit velocity. Back then they worried about putting the ball in play first. You could swing hard with no strikes, maybe one strike, but once you're at two strikes, you're approach changes. That's not a thing anymore
@ericberman4193
@ericberman4193 23 дні тому
Good video - interesting comparisons and analyses. Brought back memories from decades past!
@snerdterguson
@snerdterguson 5 місяців тому
This is one of my main arguments when people say guys like Ruth would be journey men today because the pitches weren't as fast. 90 mph is essentially 100 mph when you're swinging a 40 plus oz bat. Babe Ruth with a lighter bat and in the smaller stadiums we have today, would at least be an all star, and imo, he would still be a perennial MVP candidate. Also, he would have the benefit of modern medicine, training, coaching, conditioning, and equipment outside of bats like batting gloves, elbow guards so he could crowd the plate, plus having game film to watch and being able to really study up on opposing pitchers.
@Vanilla0729
@Vanilla0729 5 місяців тому
I dunno, studying film on pitchers would have taken up a lot of his boozing time. Still the GOAT though.
@jefffawcett
@jefffawcett 5 місяців тому
I completely agree great hitters of the past would still be great hitters. It’s a skill, it’s not like you’re trying to take a basketball player from 1925. And these guys played year-round from the time they were a little kids because baseball was the one and only game in America.
@HammerStudioGames
@HammerStudioGames 5 місяців тому
The greats of all eras would probably be great in every era, that's what JJ Reddick says about NBA players and I'm sure that holds for MLB as well.
@briangulley6027
@briangulley6027 5 місяців тому
If you took any of the old-time great and put them straight on today's field they would suck without doubt. If you put today's stars directly on yesterday's field, they would be gods. Like others have stated if the old-timers had modern training, coaching, and the rest they could compete at a high level. Today's player playing back then without benefit of modern training, etc. could compete but wouldn't be god level good.
@ronartest7748
@ronartest7748 5 місяців тому
jeter eats ruth for breakfast
@bradenstarnes4425
@bradenstarnes4425 5 місяців тому
I love y’all’s content so much! I’m a huge fan of you guys
@caseysmith544
@caseysmith544 5 місяців тому
A friend of mine had an old Oak Bat from the 1940's that he found in the house his parents bought in 1999--2000 winter. It was a massive 46 oz bat that would be lighter if using Ash or Hickory. Ash and Hickory are still used for bats today in fact some pro players use them but more use the Maple due to how durable they are using the slower non syrup maple for the bats. One company in 2000's in South Dakota out of Rapid City used Hickory, Maple, Ash, and Honey Locus for the bats one wood for each of the presidents on Mt Rushmore, the last one coming from South Dakota directly and was the model called the Teddy Rosevelt for his after presidency actually going through South Dakota on way back from what was then newly created Yellow Stone, going through the South Dakota Black Hills helping to bring light to make parts of it a National park in 1922.
@jacknone1564
@jacknone1564 5 місяців тому
Love that sound when you barrel one.
@richardtomasek
@richardtomasek 5 місяців тому
Nice hitting - from both sides!!! When I was a kid in the 50s and 60s, we had heavier bats simply because they were all solid wood bats.
@alextheluchador
@alextheluchador 5 місяців тому
That was a great video! You could really see the difference when you went with "their" swing versus how you would attack it. Great content!
@5ofineed5aladder
@5ofineed5aladder 5 місяців тому
Him ripping line drives to right center was sweet
@NotBrutality-101
@NotBrutality-101 5 місяців тому
Awesome content. I love baseball history, more than modern baseball itself. Best video I’ve ever seen from you guys!
@jockellis
@jockellis 5 місяців тому
My maternal grandfather was nuts about baseball and in his younger days played on the softball team of one of the big stores in an adult league. He had lots of books with chapters about long ago players and I made a beeline for his bookshelf when we visited. I was mad at him when he and his two sons went to visit Ty Cobb in Emory Hospital and he didn’t stop by and get me. Cobb was very friendly, BTW.
@NotBrutality-101
@NotBrutality-101 5 місяців тому
@@jockellis WOW! I’ve always known Cobb was lambasted, and everyone loves some yellow journalism. (And I’m a swamp yankee) Historical ball always gets my ear, and I never get tired of it. Best wishes.
@terryanderson4366
@terryanderson4366 5 місяців тому
I very much greatly appreciated this vidio. Love history and did not know of bat evolution and different woods. THANKS!!!!
@joe11125
@joe11125 8 днів тому
Thank you, this was super informative
@timothyhetherington
@timothyhetherington 5 місяців тому
Baseball is just awesome and watching you hit with and explain the bats was best. Such a timeless game.
@haltz
@haltz 5 місяців тому
another great video. You mentioned your slowpitch swing -- I love the softball content. Any chance you'll revive that channel? Also, any chance you'd ever break down the difference between your softball and baseball swings?
@Daniel-ns8bk
@Daniel-ns8bk 5 місяців тому
Really enjoyed this throwback video, plus the facts shared about legends of baseball!
@johnnycastillo7701
@johnnycastillo7701 4 місяці тому
What a great experience. Thanks.
@kragger99
@kragger99 2 місяці тому
I love this stuff! Thanks for making this one.
@E161L81
@E161L81 5 місяців тому
Can you imagine how strong those guys must have been? How strong their wrists and hands must-have been? I think "Shoeless"Joe swung a 48oz and Ruth actually styled his hitting approach/ technique after him. Insane...
@sueyourself5413
@sueyourself5413 5 місяців тому
Yes, overrated and weak by today's standards. The biggest farce in baseball is thinking that Babe Ruth is the goat. It's absolutely hilarious.
@mast3rNate
@mast3rNate 5 місяців тому
@@sueyourself5413 so who is the goat of baseball then if you don’t think it’s babe ruth?
@sueyourself5413
@sueyourself5413 5 місяців тому
@@mast3rNate There isn't one. There never is a goat of a sport. It's nearly impossible to compare various positions and eras. Also Ruth played back when there was a _Negro League_ so it wasn't even against hte best. And they built a stadium _for_ him so he could get more HRs. If I'm forced to choose someone. Then Ohtani.
@mast3rNate
@mast3rNate 5 місяців тому
@@sueyourself5413 i actually agree tbh lol it’s hard to label one person the “goat” of a sport since there really is too many variables. if Ohtani is still able to pitch after his surgery and puts up the same performances he did this past season then i can see him being the best player in baseball, period.
@mangomangay7747
@mangomangay7747 5 місяців тому
@@sueyourself5413 lol. lmao.
@dapper189
@dapper189 5 місяців тому
As a young anthropology student, we went to the Museum of Natural History in Chicago and got to see Ruth's bat up close. It looks like a whittled down telephone pole. I got to try on Harry Caray's glasses. I could see through time and each lense was the size and thickness of my palm.
@georgerivera6970
@georgerivera6970 5 місяців тому
Sweet concept!! Those bats looked massive!
@Ireland831
@Ireland831 2 місяці тому
When I was a kid someone gave me a Louisville Johnny Bench model. I measure it at 33 1/2 and 37 1/2oz. I never really used it until I joined a 30 and over MSBL team. Back then we were using the ZCore -5 Easton with 2 3/4" barrel. I joined a wood bat league and brought my Johnny Bench as a goof. Turns out once you get used to the swing weight it mashes! Lots of the guys wanted to use it in the games. Fun video...thx BatBros.
@obiesimonis3148
@obiesimonis3148 5 місяців тому
That was our old high school baseball home field! Go LavaBears. Love the video, great work as always. Those bats are crazy.
@dantwomey4215
@dantwomey4215 5 місяців тому
LavaBears eh? I love it. What is a LavaBear?😂
@obiesimonis3148
@obiesimonis3148 5 місяців тому
I always thought it was a mythical variant of grizzly that lived in the lava fields. Turns out it was real and but was a smaller version of a black bear. @@dantwomey4215
@anonymike8280
@anonymike8280 3 місяці тому
@@dantwomey4215 Bend, Oregon. Ever heard of the internet? You can look up anything in a wink. You should try it.
@sullivanyoung6212
@sullivanyoung6212 5 місяців тому
I love your vids, I play 13u and im always wanting to get info even though im not ale to get them itsjut so fun to watch
@corvussheperd8046
@corvussheperd8046 2 місяці тому
Easily one of the best professional comparisons ever posted to YT. Thank you!
@Ptpop
@Ptpop 5 місяців тому
Excellent video. Thanks for posting.
@thecagedunicorn
@thecagedunicorn 5 місяців тому
“A good piece of ash and it’s super freaking heavy.” That’s really all one could ever hope for right there.
@billcook4768
@billcook4768 5 місяців тому
There’s a “that’s what she said” joke in there somewhere.
@spankynater4242
@spankynater4242 5 місяців тому
Baby got bat.
@tranquilo7566
@tranquilo7566 5 місяців тому
Way light for Ruth. In his prime, he used 52 oz bat. 1921 Ruth quote; “They tell me I swing the heaviest bat in baseball. It’s not only heavy but long, about as long as the law allows. IT WEIGHS 52 OUNCES. Most bats weigh under 40. My theory is the bigger the bat the faster the ball will travel. It’s really the weight of the bat that drives the ball, and I like a heavy bat. I have strength enough to swing it, and when I meet the ball, I want to feel that I have something in my hands that will make it travel. Do you see these hands? I got those (callouses) from gripping this old war club. When I am out after a homer, I try to make mush of this solid ash handle and I carry through with the bat. You know, in boxing when you hit a man, your fist usually stops right there. But it is possible to hit a man so hard that your fist doesn’t stop. When I carry through with the bat, it is for the same reason. The harder you grip the bat, the faster the ball will travel.” He later found out, his bats were too long. He shortened the bat, so it was about 6 oz lighter. As for speed, Bob Feller played the same era. His rookie year was 1936. Several stars who faced both Feller and Walter Johnson, said Johnson was nearly as fast when he wanted to be. The difference was, Johnson was so big, strong, and crafty at mixing up speed and pitches, he occasionally pitched double headers. 2 complete games!
@cwj9202
@cwj9202 5 місяців тому
Good point. Mantle swung a 35" 36 oz bat when he was younger but used a lighter bat when he was older.
@user-ly8qd1ig7v
@user-ly8qd1ig7v 3 місяці тому
60 to the max 80mph you need a tree stump to hit a hr
@daveintheAM
@daveintheAM 3 місяці тому
How tf did he just absolutely mash with a 52 ounce caveman club of a bat 💀
@anonymike8280
@anonymike8280 3 місяці тому
@@daveintheAM It's only a pound and change heavier than the bats they use today, which means it is to degree a mental thing. If you're strong enough to handle a bat that heavy, it's not going to make much difference. Contemporary players are used to a lighter bat, but some could adapt to a heavier bat and still hit. They might even have better power numbers.
@paddyoski
@paddyoski 5 місяців тому
This was a lot of fun to watch. Thank you!
@jimmysanchez809
@jimmysanchez809 5 місяців тому
Bro great video!!! The sound of those bats are unbelievable 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@douglasiles2024
@douglasiles2024 5 місяців тому
In high school I used an aluminum Easton bat that was 34 1/2-33. It was the longest and heaviest that I was allowed to use within the rules of our district. I loved swinging a heavy bat. I'd love to try one of those replica bats, just for fun.
@BradColemanisHere
@BradColemanisHere 5 місяців тому
This was awesome to see. I visited the Louisville bat factory/museum and the handles of those old bats are ridiculous. I have big hands and I felt like a kid gripping them. You did great with these!
@ronartest7748
@ronartest7748 5 місяців тому
people in india like to eat their own feces. they purposely take big dumps in their drinking water and then they drink the feces, and they love it. raw, unfiltered, and righteous.
@cygnusx-1862
@cygnusx-1862 5 місяців тому
This was really fun to watch, thx for doing it.
@youknowweezy
@youknowweezy 5 місяців тому
Awesome video! This is what it is all about. Keep killing it!
@dhornjr1
@dhornjr1 5 місяців тому
My dad had an original Jackie Robinson bat, and he said the handle was so thick that he could barely get his hands around it. Those old bats definitely look like the handles are damn near barrel-size.
@johndecker9300
@johndecker9300 5 місяців тому
Yep, I had a Jackie Robinson in late 60's as a little leaguer, handle was huge.
@tomesdustin4382
@tomesdustin4382 5 місяців тому
Highly highly enjoyed this video content. Very cool and interesting seeing you hit with the bats from back in the days. Thank you Baseball Bat Bros.
@frawdulent
@frawdulent 5 місяців тому
This was a fun video. It’s been soooo long since I’ve watched any baseball (almost a week now), but this video made me feel like a kid again.
@adanramirez3092
@adanramirez3092 5 місяців тому
This was actually a very fascinating video for baseball fans, kinda puts the early days of baseball into greater context in terms of what players had to do compared to today. Excellent video bros.
@Jt7166
@Jt7166 5 місяців тому
You hit a lot of baseballs but I gotta imagine the forearms were sore after this one 😂
@BlueshirtFan4Ever
@BlueshirtFan4Ever 5 місяців тому
Babe Ruth swung a heavy 40oz - 42oz bat. And damn, he made it look so effortless. ⚾💥💪🏻 Idk how those hitters swung those big ass bats back in the day? I picked up a 42oz bat and even I can't swing it right. It was swinging me around. Hickory should make a comeback as being a wood bat again.
@lawrencemarocco8197
@lawrencemarocco8197 5 місяців тому
When Henry Aaron was closing in on Ruth's career HR record there was a presentation where Aaron took some swings with Ruth's 1927 bat. He marveled at the strength Ruth had to swing that bat with enough velocity to hit the ball for the distances he got from it.
@thewolfdoctor761
@thewolfdoctor761 2 місяці тому
Yes, Hank didn't disrespect Babe Ruth like this guy did. Shameful.
@imdeplorable2241
@imdeplorable2241 Місяць тому
Great comparison. 👍 Loved it.👏
@user-ni9fh3tj7o
@user-ni9fh3tj7o 9 днів тому
Thanks for the video
@calebcolon8926
@calebcolon8926 5 місяців тому
Fun fact: Babe Ruth's bat actually, where the barrel of the bat meets the handle, had a diagonal meeting point instead of the usual straight point going against the length of the bat. It resulted to more broken bats but it's still a crucial detail of the bat of Babe Ruth. 0:11 seconds in pause and you can be the meeting points is vertical.
@trainguy7276
@trainguy7276 5 місяців тому
Something very interesting about Mickey Mantle's bat, is that Mickey himself wasnt 6 foot tall. He was 5'10-5'11, either or. Which makes it super impressive to hit such bombs.
@chrisjuliano3964
@chrisjuliano3964 5 місяців тому
country strong or farmer strong. It's a different kind of strong. I played rec ball once with this kid who didn't play a lot of sports. He was a farmer type kid. Skinny and pretty unassuming. I'm not joking when I say he swung the bat cross handed and I've never seen someone hit a ball further in rec ball. It was just amazing.
@richardmorris7063
@richardmorris7063 5 місяців тому
Reggie was pretty short too, built similar w/ strong wrists.
@anonymike8280
@anonymike8280 3 місяці тому
Mantle may have been only 5'7". Willie Mays was yet shorter. I once worked with someone who knew Mays. As a boy, the guy lived near Yankee Stadium and for some reason, his father knew all the ballplayers. He was very short and he said that Mays was barely taller than he was. In the past, the listed heights and weights of many athletes were not correct. Look up some of the pictures of these athletes together. Angles and perspectives can distort things in photographs, but you can work it out. Start out with someone whose height you are sure of and work from there.
@jackskillet
@jackskillet 2 місяці тому
I really loved this looking forward to more!
@JayAyers
@JayAyers 5 місяців тому
3:00 The Sandlot clip made mg day 😂
@natos9295
@natos9295 5 місяців тому
More wood bats videos, please 🙏.
@anonymike8280
@anonymike8280 3 місяці тому
The live ball was introduced in 1914, not in 1919 as many seem to think. Teams continued to play little ball up and down the entire lineup for some years thereafter until the home run began to become more prevalent. Babe Ruth was the first to regularly hit home runs, but others soon followed. Ruth never played in the dead ball era in the major leagues.
@homerun8032
@homerun8032 3 місяці тому
Where can I find that information?
@anonymike8280
@anonymike8280 3 місяці тому
@@homerun8032 I have seen this a number of times over many years. As an historical epoch, the dead ball era is deemed to have ended in 1920. This, however, refers to the style of play, not to the actual baseball. The modern "live" ball was introduced in 1914. I cannot quickly find a reference. Every source I was able to quickly locater, including Wikipedia, discusses the historical periods, not the baseball itself. The suggestion has been put forward that the owners saw the market value of the long ball and put in an even more jacked ball than the original live ball. Baseballs have been proved to vary over the years even in recent times.
@mattcontino9235
@mattcontino9235 3 місяці тому
Incorrect on both counts. The 1st yr of the end of the “Dead Ball” ERA was 1920. Look at the stats in the 20’s compared to the 10’s. 1919 was still part of the Dead Ball ERA. Ask Ray Chapman.
@anonymike8280
@anonymike8280 3 місяці тому
@@mattcontino9235 Historians call 1920 the end of the dead ball era. This, however, refers to the style of play. The live ball itself was introduced in 1914. However, the way teams played the game did not immediately change. Not until the 1920s did teams begin to play for the long ball. You are not exactly wrong, but you are supporting my argument,
@killa103728838829838
@killa103728838829838 3 місяці тому
Your wrong and can’t prove any references for your made up in-correction
@toastnjam7384
@toastnjam7384 5 місяців тому
Awesome. I always wanted to see a video of someone trying bats of old-time players. I would love to see today's players try it.
@aarond23
@aarond23 5 місяців тому
Love the old school bats!
@supreme-rc2mf
@supreme-rc2mf 5 місяців тому
Great video, really shows how impressive the guys were back then. Small request, try using the mizuno b-23 crbn2
@mistervacation23
@mistervacation23 5 місяців тому
I would like to put on Babe Ruth's Jersey while eating a bowl of strawberries
@NYYPinstripes1
@NYYPinstripes1 Місяць тому
Strawberries are good this time of year...gotta get the good ones
@ticozayas6430
@ticozayas6430 4 місяці тому
Would love to see u do an experiment with different wood types, I'm a carpenter and former baseball play and i used to turn my own bats, heaviest bat i ever made was from this wood called cumaru its very dense and heavy it was too heavy for an everyday bat but i used it in bp as a wieghted functional bat... would be interesting to see u try some bats made from denser woods like cumaru, ironwood, and rosewood. See how thier density and wieght affects the hits :)
@luishumbertovega3900
@luishumbertovega3900 4 місяці тому
Love to see you swinging, those balls flying like rockets and oh, that wood sound !!! ⚾😃
@user-cv6tv3sx8g
@user-cv6tv3sx8g 5 місяців тому
Will has the best swing even with a log
@androidskywalker8136
@androidskywalker8136 5 місяців тому
You guys will never know genius idea got me so many likes
@zionedits3454
@zionedits3454 5 місяців тому
What are you yapping about😭
@bridgetstevens5615
@bridgetstevens5615 5 місяців тому
Lol
@castlebravocrypto1615
@castlebravocrypto1615 5 місяців тому
I'm going to like your comment just for what you said
@jonathanstiemann3078
@jonathanstiemann3078 5 місяців тому
I liked your comment because I have no life, and I wanted to feel special!
@WojMoj
@WojMoj 5 місяців тому
“What in God's holy name are you blathering about?”
@jddoctorwho
@jddoctorwho 5 місяців тому
God I LOVE THE SOUND of a bat hitting a ball!!❤⚾️
@TheScabbleGabble
@TheScabbleGabble 5 місяців тому
Cool video. My dad graduated high school in '67 and told me that his high school ordered 2 bats for every player on varsity. My dad chose the Al Kaline bat as that was his favorite player
@CoCoColtrane
@CoCoColtrane 5 місяців тому
Let’s not forget, Babe Ruth was a MASSIVE human being
@baseballbatbros
@baseballbatbros 5 місяців тому
factual
@clintsaines9274
@clintsaines9274 5 місяців тому
6'2 225
@rjvsmb
@rjvsmb 5 місяців тому
Can you imagine how strong they were swing those logs every day?
@rgregoryful
@rgregoryful 3 місяці тому
Super fun. Thanks.
@rothed16
@rothed16 4 місяці тому
First time seeing your channel and this was Awesome! That sound from the bat will be in my head for days!😂
@asherchancey3615
@asherchancey3615 4 місяці тому
Thoroughly enjoyable video.
@ArthurShedsJackson
@ArthurShedsJackson 5 місяців тому
That was so cool! Thank you!!!
@cheechoo98
@cheechoo98 5 місяців тому
OMG Awesome! so glad you did this test! Great stuff! and awesome - didn't know you were a switch-hitter! Waayy to crush 'em!!!
@jeffhoward553
@jeffhoward553 5 місяців тому
Thanks I enjoyed this.
@dockie2747
@dockie2747 5 місяців тому
That Pablo jersey is so sick! I love it.
@christopherjohnson5748
@christopherjohnson5748 3 місяці тому
Those heavy bats were perfect for the dead-ball era. And I think your relaxed swing was as well.
@rmoultonrmoulton145
@rmoultonrmoulton145 5 місяців тому
Friggin nailed that Sandlot cut.
@Wobbles_offroad
@Wobbles_offroad 5 місяців тому
I love that you guys did this in Bend! Got to play a little league game on that field growing up. I miss the game
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