i remember Robben slapping him on the pitch xD but yes indeed, there was no beef

Remember Pepe? ;D

@@slyhow Well yes

@@slyhow Pepe is a dog, should never been allowed on a football pitch

But that's not very common anyways.

no. amazing player but neymar will be remembered for longer as he was more entertaining

⁠​⁠@@therentboys7787Müller is much bigger than Neymar

@@therentboys7787 if you really think Neymar is bigger in World football than Müller that's a wild guess. Legacy, accomplishements etc all in Müllers favor. The only thing he is not is louder and flashier than neymar. Müller is 33 and still performing on highest level whilst Neymar just decided to basically end his career. If you ask my personal opinion. Neymar would have been the better player if he would have decided to put more effort in it. But he decided not too. He had way more potential than Müller ever would have BUT and that's the big difference. Mindset and work ethic makes Müller more valuable for beasically every single team he would have played on. As a coach I go for Müller any given second.

Cmon man Neymar is great but Muller is a German legend and as a decades long Bayern fan Muller is my favorite Bayern player

I'm brazilian and i think that as well lmao

Facts

I'm not sure why everyone thinks that muller isn't skillfull. He may not use flashy tricks but his ball control, quick feet and brilliant passing are very large components of his game. Also, he's not built like a tank, but he's pretty strong and is very difficult to knock off the ball

That is the most accurate description of Muller

​​@@headphoneman10its not that they think that he isnt skillfull he just lacks in this domain in comperison to other *big* players.

@@user-zc6bc9se1t I wouldn't say so. I'd say he's one of the most skillfull it's much harder to control and pass a ball like he does at full pace for a full ninety minutes than it is to do a few stepovers and look skillfull like someone like st maxamin

he hasn’t got any flashy skills is what all these people mean but they ignore the rlly important efficient skills

His athleticism, strength (on and off the ball) is top notch, could run indefinitely for an entire match and used to be pretty rapid in his prime

I think his greatest skill is his off the ball movement

​​@@chegbedaniel2222but then he use that movement to assist a teammate in a first touch . I saw him sending a cross to Lewandowski from the wing and the ball was in the air, Muller send the cross with the ball in the air, like a voley, exactly to Roberts head, insane

Have you ever watch inzaghi?😂

​@@GokuT24-pp3dwhe is underrated he truly becomes to goat category only player to destroy goats he is truly 3rd best of our generation

@@GokuT24-pp3dw of course he is underrated, compared to what he achieved. At his age he won and did for the team much more than Mbappe. But media/fan coverage of Mbappe is not even comparable to Muller. Also even players like Neymar, Suarez, Robben are much more hyped than Muller. I think it is because he is slow and not flashy at all, so he is invisible to a regular football fan.

@@GokuT24-pp3dw I’m bringing Mbappe because he is opposite of Mueller- he is overrated. Of course Mbappe is a good player, but we are talking about who is underrated/overrated. Fan media attention to Mbappe is 100x more than to Mueller at same age, but he achieved much less

@@GokuT24-pp3dwWait do you really think more people care about PSG and the french league? Bayern and the Bundesliga is clear above the french league. Especially back in 2010-2014 wich he was talking about. Dortmund was extremely good as well, so there was a rivalry. Dortmund kicked in out clubs like real madrid and was loved everywhere. In this time the Bundesliga was hyped and much more competitive than the league 1 today in the time of Mbappe. Nowadays most people don't care about the french league and the bundesliga because both have one strong team. But the discussion was about the younger Müller. And in those years the Bundesliga was great and far ahead of the french league now. That's not even close.

@@GokuT24-pp3dw We are talking about 2008-2014. The Bundesliga was competitive back then. For example Dortmund won the league twice and Wolfsburg won the league too. What your saying is correct for the league today, but not back then. Btw Juventus won 9 titles in a row too.

In 2014 Germany played beautiful football, especially against Brasil ☝🏼

Simply no

It's more like he doesn't go out of his way to be flashy. His playstyle is about efficiency, and that's incidentally beautiful

​@@rikkidgermano9640no, Beatiful Football is Ronaldinho, who will prefeer to do a nutmeg than scoring a goal. 7x1 is the perfectly example from Germany vs Brazil playing styles. I Say that as a Brazilian.

​@@BraboDmsSlc I mean, yeah you're right. But Brazil has defeated Germany with their beautiful game, too.

Thank you mate, as a Bayern fan I appreciate these nice words And so do your club (AC Milan). You guys had so many great players over the years. And you were always Bayern boogey team haha

You forgot about Coman bro. Hes Bayerns best winger

@@romanu2293 Yes, Coman is the best winger no doubt

​@@romanu2293sane is the best one, when you compare them all in form

Far from it.

Same. Might be from their 2014 worldcup win

@@aidanross6155 He was in 2010 also.

I'm 37 and feel the same

@@neerkoli 2010 he looks older than now :D

you mean 2010?@@aidanross6155

Half of the things you mentioned there are basically football IQ

I swear müller should be the new joker

mate ur repeating what football iq is lol

Thomas Müller has some strange moves at times, but if you look closely his technique ist actually VERY good! A pass can look strange because he makes it after the first touch, but other footballers wouldn‘t make the pass on the first touch in that situation. He is able to make moves that almost no one can do, it‘s genius. And it‘s crazy that somehow the football world didn‘t appreciate enough in the last 10 years. People laughed at him despite his incredible stats. And he has some leadership an mentality that can‘t be mesuared through statistics. That‘s my opinion on him as a footballer, and I‘m watching that guy for 11 years now.

Exactly, I can't stand these surface level analysis of players like this. To say Muller has no skills is flat out wrong. Watch any Germany or Bayern training session and you will see that technically the guy is easily among the best. What people really mean to say is that he isn't as easy on the eye as some of the players they like to watch. The fact that he's still playing at such a high level this late in to his career is proof enough, and for that you absolutely need to be skilled.

Half the merit belongs to the clown posing as a referee in that game 🤡

I won’t either. It was beautiful

​@@alexmarques4432cry more

​@@alexmarques4432Barca Fans are the only ones that can see a 7-0 defeat on agg. and still blame the ref

@@philippmeier3363 I would never blame these results on anyone other than our lazy overpayed players those years I'm talking about that particular play, afterI just watched this clip and couldn't believe the ref wouldn't whstle that foul, and then give the goal to boot. So yep,in this play the ref acted like a clown

I think they are underrated because they sometimes look goofy but they work!

It is between people who understands football. Thierry Henry once said, is unfair that Müller isn't nominated to Ballond'or every year.

That’s the most frustrating thing. Getting so close to the ball but not being able to touch it

Quite surprised to see people still remember and credit berbatov. Man was the definition of silky smooth and he was always at the right place at the right time

And RIQUELME

but muller is an attacker, he will score.

A very slow match with very high goals and possession

He is one of the all time greats and that is what we are talking about. I don't think anyone is forgetting Muller when talking about great footballers.

It would be easy to add a dozen of german players or even teams, which would be international legends, if they only wouldn't happend to have been german.

​@@arjunsatheesh7609i feel german players especially when they play in germany have a harder time being recognized by the public compared to other nations

@@Ni1996Ki Within English speaking communities, German players may appear to be under represented simply because Bundesliga does retain most German origin players and the English Premier League doesn't usually get a lot of the top German players. That said, the whole world knows Bayern Munich and many fans of football who don't closely follow the Bundesliga are still aware of Borussia Dortmund. Everyone considers the German football team a force to reckon with and a poor showing in the World Cup by Germany is considered a surprise by anyone. Any football fan who follows the EPL will most likely be aware of the hype that 'potential' players eyed by EPL clubs receive. That hype will never be there for German players simply because the marketing of the Bundesliga in the Anglosphere is well below the EPL. Thomas Muller is known as one of the greats by anyone who has seen the German national team or Bayern Munich play. Harry Kane's move to Bayern and Lewandowski's move out of Bayern has introduced the team name to a wider audience in recent times. This video does highlight Muller as a great player and soon more people in the Anglosphere will be talking about him. It never felt like German players were under-represented it only felt like they never got that hype. After all, hype is a function of marketing and media perception, never a matter of skill.

@@xwormwood I don't know WTF you are talking about but players like Khan, Rumenigge, Beckenbauer, are all considered international legends!

Well, he was like 18 back then 😅 And 15 goals in a debut season? To me that's not unimpressive

​@@PrgressiveHouseyeah this dude on some crack

And will play vs Real Madrid, this will be one of the nicest Duells Berlin has seen in maybe 20 years.

Vision is football IQ

​@@ErenDenizMertNo, you might find it funny but moving your head is a physical abilty. It can be trained so it happens automatically.

@@Skyl3t0n Moving your head? Thats not vision

@@ErenDenizMert so you can turn your eyes 180°?

Because Messi cant play in the EC since he isnt from europe... Messi won the Coppa that is a bit easyer to win.

@@janp5063 that was an obvious joke ^^

All that while teaching Messi a class of 2 on playmaking

11 Championchips

it's actually 11 straight domestic championships, although the last one was very close

Mbapee had a better team than Muller's Germany. IQ alone can't win you games

Nah I always thought that he has Max 2 more world cups out of which I thought 1 will be a dud for sure and in the other I thought Muller will score 3-4 I thought he would end at 13. For Mbappe i think he's got 3 more in him out of which 1 will be a lost cause. In the other 2 I think he's scoring 10-11 more. So 22/23 in total

​@@Kushagra.jthe lost cause might be the last one if at all xD

@@ElysianVisionsX and yet they still did not win the WC in 2014. If you have too many superstars, you cannot win anything. Teams like France and Brasil base their strength too much on certain individual players and when these players are sick or injured the whole team falls apart. Football is still a teamsport and if one important player is missing you need to have a perfect sub for him.

but later Germany team decided to go straight to sh... I don't know what happened to them. It's like they get sick or something.

Yeah, he sort of looks clumsy in the way he moves, he's not the most elegant , but he knows exactly what he's doing.

And whenever Bayern bench him they suck and eventually the coach gets sacked.

Unskilled as in the typical aesthetic dribbler like Zidane, Kaka, or *insert long legged elegant dribbler that plays CAM*

He is pretty unskilled for the level he is at. Obviously he passes the technically required skill check to play at the highest level, so obviously he is very skilled. But you can easily put him in the conversation as one of the best players to have played over the last 20 years. And compared to those players, he is not very skilled, he is probably the least physically skilled/elegant players in that conversation. At the same time he is, at least in my book, at the top of that list, which is where for me the unskilled part comes from, unskilled compared to the players you have to compare him to.

Im also argentinian and as a bayern fan muller its just built different

Another Argentine here, an insane player. Superb vision, intelligence and interpretation skills. Legendary.

ThomAssist Muller

Yeah because he scored ridiculous amount in youth teams, he has to have skill.

He means dribble ability, 1v1. Muller is a legend, despite not having that kind of skill

@@igor4246 doesn't matter what he means, the thumbnail is just awful

I think a lot of that difference comes from where they were developed. I imagine Muller would've had a very similar style to Iniesta if he was developed at La Masia, but Muller may just be too big in general to play like Iniesta. Muller is 6'1" vs Iniesta at 5'7"

He plays like a Berkhamp/Lampard hybrid almost. If you think he's in the midfield he's already at the back post looking for a finish but if you think he's in the box to score he'll pass to the striker.

I can't recall him ever getting tired or injured, so I'd say he is insanely athletic.

maybe he is just not taking risky plays@@MrCmon113

Kane is a better player

@@asapoluu9885 I think they meant in terms of trophies. Because Kane is no doubt a better finisher and has better technique. But I would say that they are on par as football players on a whole, because they are very different types of players. Kane could only dream of having a trophy cabinet like Müller. In fact most professional footballers in history could only dream of having a trophy cabinet like müller.

​@@asapoluu9885In what measure?

kane can finally win trophies now

​@@asapoluu9885lol,no Muller won world cup golden boot at a very young age,plays better under pressure than Kane,not saying Kane isn't an incredible player,but muller is a better overall player,the only aspect kane thumps muller is goalscoring

🤣🤣🍔 He did

Like Inzaghi?

Or like kuroko from Kuroko no Basuke

Anime dogs barking

yes.

Muller is like Giannis in basketball, he doesn't have a deep dribbling bag or fancy footwork but he can poach and he can find the final pass.