How decades of stopping forest fires made them worse
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2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡDecades of stopping forest fires have made them worse. Can we undo the damage?
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1910βs βBig Blow Upβ remains one of the most disastrous wildfires in US history. Hurricane-force winds fanned and threw embers for miles. Full, flaming trees became dangerous projectiles as they were reportedly torn from the ground. After two days, 3 million acres throughout Idaho and Montana had burned. The devastation had a lasting effect on the United States and shaped US forest policy for the next century. But it also created a deep misunderstanding of what fire means to a forest.
A century of fire suppression has reshaped our forests. The floor is littered with material that is dense, dried, and dead. Now, climate change is highlighting why thatβs a problem. Increasingly hot, dry weather has resulted in a longer, more dramatic wildfire season, and the forests are ready to ignite. The United States is struggling to keep up with the blazes year after year, so scientists and indigenous people are pushing to bring back a centuries-old practice: burning the forests on our own terms, through prescribed burning.
This is the third video in our climate change coverage this week and the next. You can watch the first video on extreme heat π‘ and what cities are doing to cool down here: β’ How America's hottest ...
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Note: The headline on this pieace has been updated. Previous headline: "How burning a forest can help save it".
Additional reading:
You can check out Crystal Koldenβs website and her research here: www.pyrogeographer.com/
For more information on Elizabeth Azzuz and the Yurok tribe: www.hcn.org/articles/south-wi...
www.nationalgeographic.com/hi...
Our science reporter Umair Irfan explained prescribed burning and how colonists strategically stopped cultural burns in a deliberate attempt to eradicate American Indians:
www.vox.com/21507802/wildfire...
Prescribed or controlled burning is proven successful again and again, but itβs still not happening enough. As climate change worsens the safety window to conduct these types of burns gets smaller and smaller. More on that and other information on prescribed burns here:
www.theguardian.com/world/202...
acconsensus.org/wp-content/up...
www.fs.fed.us/psw/publication...
www.theatlantic.com/science/a...
Even having evolved with fire, climate change is changing the game for our forests - itβs getting harder and harder for them to regenerate after massive burns. In 2021, rangers were racing to cover our Sequoia trees with fire-resistant blankets in an attempt to save them:
www.npr.org/2021/09/17/103791...
www.hcn.org/articles/climate-...
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@Vox 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The image you see at 1:24 of a real, live βSmokey the Bearβ was taken in the 1950βs. This bear cub was found badly burned after a New Mexico wildfire. He was picked up and treated for his burns in Santa Fe. He was later transported to the National Zoo in Washington, DC, where he lived out his life as a living symbol of Smokey the Bear. He received so many letters that he was even given his own zip code. You can read more about it here: smokeybear.com/en/smokeys-history/story-of-smokey -Kim
@pz-sc6201 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thatβs beary wholesome.
@realtalk5329 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Did you know that your memory of "smokey THE bear" is from a parallel universe that i too also have a memory of? In this universe its always been "SMOKEY BEAR"
@novan998 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@maxd161990 Yoo rsgggdfsdstatsx
@Dumptheclutchevo 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@realtalk5329 Mandela Effect
@laurabowles 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I'm very glad to read this, because my first thought when I saw the photo was, "Oh no, they captured a baby bear and used it for animal tourism."
@justinfowler2857 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
We've known this for decades. Yet more and more people move to fire prone areas and still demand all fires be suppressed. Thus the problem continues to get worse.
@jjbarajas5341 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The fiery version of building in flood plains and being surprised when your home is flooded.
@ninjamusic9554 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The Indigenuous people have known that for centuries
@tuckertooley174 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@ninjamusic9554 they knew everything about the land they were on and we ignored and killed them
@benkoskinen3871 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
America is the best example of "we know about the problem for decades, and we are going to do exactly nothing about it"
@stonep11 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@jjbarajas5341 New Orleans in a nutshell
@slushyrh 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
We do this all the time in Australia just before fire season. It really makes a difference and has definitely stopped a couple fires from starting.
@NeonMirah 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Was just about to say this. We do back burning all of the time in Australia
@jeffreycater5447 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@Moo-fb2kb ok
@fgsaramago 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
That's the lazy way out. Very damaging to the environment and wildlife. How about putting serious resources into raking/cleaning as it's done in developed countries?
@jeffreycater5447 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@fgsaramago did you not take in any information from the video... this is how most places that are developed do it... Iβm not American and we do control burns
@santaclaws1501 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@fgsaramago do you know how large australia is? It isn't feasible to have people rake an area half the size of Europe each year. Besides, the forests in australia are meant to be burned. Many eucalyptus trees need fire to reproduce. The indigenous people of australia have also done this for thousands of years, and even some birds here intentionally spread it.
@peterwhite034 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I had a geography professor whose specialty was Pyrogeography, and we learned this exact theory. The fires clear out underbrush and weak trees
@MoonLiteNite 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
but great scientist of cali are just learning of this :') I learned this 30 years as a kid, i can't believe they are just figuring this out in cali...
@fgsaramago 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
As opposed to having people go there and clean it as it's done in developed countries. It's the lazy way out
@Honeybadger_525 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@MoonLiteNite Scientists have understood the importance of fires in the ecology of the Sierra Nevada for decades, now. The issue is that our government (both state and federal) have largely ignored the science and the problem for just as long and have not provided adequate resources to the responsible agencies to properly manage our forests nor have they removed policy barriers to allow for more controlled burns
@MySwordMyBowMyAxe 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@fgsaramago This comment displays ignorance. Smaller fires provide space, nutrients & great chance for new healthy growth. Many pine cones require fires to melt the resin stopping seeds from being exposed. Simply removing "cleaning out" forests is labor intensive and not necessarily the healthiest thing for those ecosystems
@crimsonrose 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@MoonLiteNite Stop lying. I went to uni in California and I also learned about this 10 years ago from a professor at that school.
@SaltySparrow 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
It makes total sense. Firefighters didn't exist 5,000 years ago and trees still exist. Its a process of death and renewal to reinvigorate.
@windblazeanims6253 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Brash and ignorant North Americans clearly didn't understand or know that until just recently I guess.
@1gorSouz4 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Well, to be fair cigarettes, campfires and arson didn't exist either...
@Drew-be5dh 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@1gorSouz4 most fires are caused from lightning. The intensity of fires are directly related to forest mismanagement.
@verticalsorh7124 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Not to mention theirs literally species of trees that only drop their seeds during forest fires. In fact without the heat the seeds canβt escape the cones.
@windblazeanims6253 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@sxpr33t It was like 3 in the morning when I typed that bruh I meant white people Edit: Wait no I was correct, you don't refer to the Europeans that settled in North America Europeans, since they took over North America that means they're now the ones called North Americans while the original North Americans are now refered to as Aboriginals, First Nations, (etc)
@lukelohmann5877 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Growing up in Australia, "Back Burning" has been done for thousands of years by the Indigenous People of Australia. And is a major strategy of the Australian firefighter forces
@earlofsammich6886 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
And as a wildland firefighter itβs one of the more fun parts of our job actually haha
@jayus2033 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
And how it that doing for you now π€£π€£π€£π€£πππππ€£ππ
@earlofsammich6886 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@jayus2033 actually very good, we back burned to stop many large fires this season
@geekswithfeet9137 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thousands of years of burning is why our soil is so poor and drought prone, necessitating more burning.... we need to get more innovative instead of making the problem worse
@caimansaurus5564 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@geekswithfeet9137 everything i've read about controlled burns indicates that they actually fertilize and enrich the soil. do you have a source?
@yadisfhaddad722 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I love how the 21st century is about learning what indigenous communities knew for thousands of years about ecosystem management and sustainability. Is long overdue, but better late than never.
@itsmecaldo 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Right??? Colonizers come and duck everything up and push and suppress the natives but when they duck up to much they use indigenous techniques. Indigenous are the only native Americans that are one with the land.
@LadyScaper 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I kinda wish indigenous cultures were also classed as scientists, because they have known this for over a millennia. Indigenous scientists have known and done the ecological studies/science and incorporated the results into the general culture. Scientific results that western scientists have only recently figured out. I feel like the using the term indigenous scientists, helps settlers understand how important the centuries of indigenous science is to everyone and needs to be followed (just like western science). What tragedies could have been avoided if indigenous science was respected much earlier then now?
@starmaker75 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
it funny how colonizer says their master of this land, but only now understanding using land properly
@MagicalBread 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
EXACTLY
@amelie3012 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
It reminds me how the Renaissance was basically rediscovering Roman and Greek knowledge that was forgotten during middle ages
@Sannidor 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Many plants have life cycles depending on cyclical fires to release their seeds. Makes you think, huh.
@Koevoet19 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Sequoiaβs for example! Biggest treeβs ever that rely on forest fires to plant themselves
@fgsaramago 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Not many at all in the overall scheme.
@digimonlover1632 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@fgsaramago How?
@AquaPrince27 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@digimonlover1632 there is less than 10 recorded plants who spread seeds only through fire, its very obvious what the other commenter meant lol how did that confuse you
@ligmajobs4686 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@AquaPrince27 all desert and dry forest plants have a fire cycle. Every single one. Pinion pine, sage brush, chite grass, ponderosa pine, juniper trees, cedar pine. I could literally name a hundred more. You have no idea what you are talking about. Almost all plants in places where fires are common have a fire start.
@terramater 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Awesome video, as always! And "Can we undo the damage" is a really good question! The current fire season has broken almost every record in terms of frequency and ferocity. During one of our latest film projects, we also realized that not only the increasingly hot, dry weather has resulted in a longer, more dramatic wildfire season, also bad housing development and fire management are severe problems. Change is needed here if we want to prevent upcoming fires.
@Subject91121 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I thought Forest thinning is a thing
@Wasserkaktus 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Humans planted the seeds of destruction in the Neolithic by wiping out most of the megafauna worldwide, particularly in the Americas. In terms of natural forest management, Megafauna played a key role in consuming and reducing excessive undergrowth, and without them, there is just a whole lot of excessively dry undergrowth which is the perfect kindling for fire.
@fgsaramago 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@Subject91121 thinning, raking, cleaning, whatever you want to call it is what's usually done in developed countries. Controlled fires is the lazy way out and incredibly damaging to environment and wildlife
@elizabethhenning778 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@fgsaramago And you know this how? It might be damaging to timber profit or rural house prices, but neither of those are the environment.
@EnigmaticLucas 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
It's gotten so bad that fire _season_ really only exists on paper since wildfires happen year-round now
@ajson1232 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Sometimes you just gotta let Mother Nature take its course she knows whatβs good for herself
@ip5799 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
not when global warming is interrupting
@kristian3466 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Doesn't hurt to give her a hand as long as we know what we're doing, hence prescribed fires
@doctorwholover1012 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Right ? It's almost like the flooding of the banks along the Nile made the ecosystem ripe and fertile for farming and native vegetation, and fires within forests via lightning strike/dry brush fires help the forest clear dead wood and provide seeds with access to the soil ! It's almost like mother nature....... involves fire and water in the natural processes....... because they ARE natural processes....... πππ
@joycejames8461 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Nature's been around a lot longer than us humans, if we stop interfering then things will balance out again.
@beef-jerky 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Hopefully she burns down all of California so they'll finally realize their mistakes.
@LimeyLassen 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
North America was already civilized for thousands of years. The wilderness wasn't wild, it just looked like it to Europeans who didn't understand, because every ecosystem has a unique character and unique challenges.
@LadyScaper 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
^ THIS
@crazydragy4233 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@HunterBidensCrackPipe One thing is to develop, another to make it unusable :)
@kanduyog1182 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@HunterBidensCrackPipe Found the colonizer.
@Va11idus Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@kanduyog1182 calling someone a "colonizer" as an insult has to be the most braindead take ever. "Your ancestors civilization was successful enough to go out and conquer foreign lands and settle them. You should feel embarrassed." Dang. Imagine having agriculture, science, animal husbandry, metallurgy, navigation, seafaring ships, etc. Maybe the people who got colonized should have spent less time killing eachother and more time developing.
@Erik_The_Viking 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Here in California we have issues with poor fire management, building homes in areas prone to fires, and of course putting laws in place to prevent clearing out potential fire dangers like dead material, weak trees and other fuel sources. Then we complain about why fires are getting worse.
@Rock_star1620 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Donβt forget you have selfish residents who ignite these fires on purpose.
@LoneWolf1493 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
And then you have folks like the ones running this channel who shift the blame from white-man legislation onto βclimate changeβ
@Ren_1312 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Also pg&e (a major electric company in most of northern CA) doesn't maintain their power lines. They were responsible for the camp fire.
@Erik_The_Viking 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@Ren_1312 Exactly!
@talbotmclaws7769 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Are we surprised that California, a very 'tree hugger' state, has laws against managing forests?
@DURRYAN 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Actually the ash of burnt trees can be nutrients for new trees
@MarkusGlesnes 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Like how planting a lot of trees isnt super good. You need dead trees aswell.
@muhammadwalid8440 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yeah carbon inside soil is good thing
@DevSarman 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
And don't forget fungi as well
@hedgehog3180 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I mean it literally contains everything that the old tree consisted of except the things that could evaporate which is mostly water and some carbon so obviously it's gonna have everything a new tree will need. Unlike animals plants keep almost everything they absorb for their entire life except Oxygen.
@justinfowler2857 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Not only that. I fire sterilizes the soil and burns out weeds that choke out new tree and plant growth.
@annex6778 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Fight fire with fire. what a good quote
@daakevinee 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
You haven't even watched the video yet
@marchwhitlock6455 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@daakevinee Extrapolation.
@gr8potatosaurusofthunderfart 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
They are literally "fireman"
@cringyhuman3210 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Huh maybe we should always fight fire with fire lol
@peterwhite034 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Once again, the Native Americans had the right idea
@popeo1973 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Now that something
@Nobody-gx2rz 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Our ancestors knowledge of nature is far superior than us (So called modern and intelligent people)
@itsmecaldo 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Natives were one with the land
@Nobody-gx2rz 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@itsmecaldo not just US, but worldwide itβs the same case
@LisaBeergutHolst 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
"Only to the white man was nature a 'wilderness'." βLuther Standing Bear
@screamcheeese7175 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I'm actually glad that the forest service in my area does prescribed burns twice a year, May to June and October to November. And the people here are actually okay with it. Our town has burned down three times (1860s to 1920s), and so we're more at ease when we know there isn't much fuel for a fire to go through.
@fgsaramago 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
How about cutting it and removing it instead of burning it? I suppose it's cheaper to be lazy...
@cattrish5384 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@fgsaramago You probably didn't watch the video. But this also isn't a matter of "picking up branches" and "laziness." Burning these leaf and branch debris also recycles dead matter back into the ecosystem. controlled wildfires also help prevent future fires by prepping trees for these future events
@Hexadolf 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
β@@cattrish5384 The dude says "Turns out if you don't have an ignition source, you don't have the fire." moving on, nothing worth your time.
@byrlink 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
What area, State, Country?
@beef-jerky 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Congrats on not living in California!!
@larryjeremiah8250 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
There's some satisfaction in knowing that there are dire consequences in ignoring and criminalising the ancestral knowledge and practices of The Land.
@beef-jerky 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
It's only criminal in California, it's used by every other continental state.
@TotalDrganMania 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Lot of states do this. I assume this is another California passing poor policy decisions thing
@userlog2474 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@TotalDrganMania It's more of a colonialism thing.
@Va11idus Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@userlog2474 no, it's not. When you have people starting fires and burning your land, of course you're going to want them to stop. It has nothing to do with colonialism.
@userlog2474 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@Va11idus If it had nothing to do with colonialism, it wouldn't be referred to as "your land" in the first place.
@crankykransky2979 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Australia also had this problem in the early days of colonization because they stopped the Aboriginal people from backburning.
@oscarnorth7245 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This is already Australiaβs policy, and it really does work. This helps stop fire, and allows us to cope with it.
@gardenjoy5223 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Good for you!
@alexm566 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
why you were complaining about the 2021 fires then?
@krealyesitisbeta5642 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Native Americans: (Knew this for centuries) βBruh, these guys are figuring this out now?β
@gladiatorz1995 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
In Australia, we do controlled burns to prevent fires in forests
@sayed2088 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
we should learn more from cultures that learnt important things a long time ago before colonisation changed it all
@jurgenparkour9337 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@fiery but mostly peaceful what's your point? Vaccines are safe and have saved milions of lives and will save even more in the future
@clintstewart5545 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@fiery but mostly peaceful well without vaccines maybe reaching 30 would be like reaching 100 now days
@xKuukkelix 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@jurgenparkour9337 he's just baiting
@ok-pn6hg 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Native Americans were constantly using controlled burning in California to prevent wildfires.
@marchwhitlock6455 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Guys, just report the anti-vaxxer and move on.
@berghwilliam 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Humans when there's a natural phenomenon that allows nature to regenerate: this is bad, let's work together to fix this issue! Humans when we cause the issues: *anyways*
@waveplay3978 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Humans is a bit too general. Native Americans are humans too and they were clearly much smarter about this than the colonizers
@berghwilliam 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@waveplay3978 you might be right but I imagine they (as any other human) would fight nature to defend their home. It's just that humans in general don't think of consequences very often.
@Va11idus Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@waveplay3978 this is not even close to true. I love how these falsehoods permeate our society and there is nothing you can do to correct it because the natives didn't develope writing to keep records.
@joshuachristofferson9227 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Wow! It's almost like Mother Nature is smarter than us wee humans. How many times have we bested her again?
@eriklakeland3857 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Zero. Mother Nature is undefeated.
@Honeybadger_525 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Vox did a great job explaining this complex topic in layman's terms! It's more important than ever we educate more folks about the importance of "good fires" in helping maintain healthy forest ecosystems, especially here in the western US.
@baltasokolade 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
When I was a kid, every spring we bored our fields back in Latvia, but last 10 years it has been banned and punishable. This was to encourage growth and fertility for the fields.
@NyanGeneral 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
given it's latvia, which is so much colder than californiia, burning probably won't (atleast currently and next 10 years) do much help
@r1e5p3l7i2c 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
burning fields every year is detrimental and depletes nutrients. It's doesn't have the same speciation advantages as burning a forest once in decade.
@nussnougat5462 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Because that is only beneficial to the farmers and not the environment.
@kayseek1248 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Boring fields?
@latviantrainy968 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
TΔtad ir latvieΕ‘i, kuri skatΔs Ε‘o kanΔlu :D vienmΔr domΔju, ka esmu vienΔ«gais :DD
@kellygrant3074 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Last year's fire along the Mckenzie river in westernOregon was a tragedy for homeowners and human lives lost, but the result is actually beautiful; revealing the topography of a rugged landscape that was always obscured by trees. The endless miles of fir may give way to a more diverse forest.
@Fg795yt Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
In Australia We do this as most of are trees use fire to grow more and we know itβs good
@jwanie366 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I feel like I learned this a long time ago but just wasn't completely aware of how serious the problem was. Glad that I watched this video!
@The1theycallghost3030 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Who else came here after watching the voices are like a fingerprint video
@samueldanby 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Its funny watching this in Australia where this is something talked about all the time :)
@sr.liam17 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
America: Hey guys, we know how to control fires now! Australia: woooooow, you just found out, good 4 u. π We have done that for thousands of years.
@LTDextel 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I grew up understanding that controlled burns is the best way to contain a fire. So weird to see that people interpreted all fire as bad.
@formoth3rrussia472 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
the goverment legit went on a million dollar smear campaign against fire aswell alot of people died and lost there houses to wild fires humans have hated things for less
@ulysses3183 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I liked how this conversation referenced historical Native American practices. What other common practices do we hold today that are counterintuitive?
@32fps 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I think the better question is what do we NOT do. The first thing that comes to my mind is dams--rivers naturally flooded and it was actually a good thing that nature dealt with, but when people wanted their not-flood-proof houses to be on rivers, suddenly we had to stop the regular floods.... Which causes worse floods (besides a whole bunch of other issues with rivers' ecosystems)
@tibodeclercq2131 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
That socialism doesn't work is held back a lot
@robos3809 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@tibodeclercq2131 and capitalism does?
@beef-jerky 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Touting Wind and Solar as Green. Trying to stop California from burning down. Sending out thousands of Mail-In ballots with no need for ID and then saying the election was secure. I could go on.
@tibodeclercq2131 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@robos3809 Absolutely! Even North Korea is secretly using capitalism but they do it under the form of forced labor: they send women to tourist spots in Asia, mainlt thailand, they earn money out there but have to give it to th enorth korean government, so they are basically used as slaves by the regime, but they make the money through capitalism. Also China is using capitalism. Vietnam has also embraced it. Richest people and countries are all capitalists (Honest capitalism).
@siddharthprabhu 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
As is a lot of things, it's probably good in moderation
@TeinMustang 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Florida has been using prescribed burns for decades with great success. On average over 2 million acres are burned this way in the state every year. It was only recently that I had learned that many state and local governments out west fight the forest service tooth and nail to try to prevent this kind of forest maintenance. It's sad that it's taking this massive loss of life for them to start going down the right track.
@martinvaldez327 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Here in Canada, natives use to do this. Once the settlers arrived, they put a ban on this cause they didn't want the beautiful forest burning but what they didn't know is that in order to get that forest, they had to maintain it by burning the forest. And this was back in 1610. Now 98% of that knowledge is gone.
@ThePowerRanger 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Its always frustrating to know that something is done to solve a problem, actually causes/increases the problem.
@LeoStaley 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
We've known this for at least 25 years. I remember reading a Popular Science article about this as a kid in around 1995.
@djntu2964 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Indigenous people have known this for THOUSANDS of yearsβ¦
@timbushell8640 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@djntu2964 Along with how to reduce the continent's megafauna...
@gardenjoy5223 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Where Your personal knowledge becomes the measure of all things known to us...
@scottfranco1962 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
In California, we not only stopped fires, but we stopped logging and virtually put the lumber industry out of business in the name of the environment. Lumber production in CA is 1/6 of what it was in its peak. So now we have way more standing timber with dryer conditions. What is happening to all the trees we saved? You're breathing it now. Good going.
@EricHamm 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
You mean breathing CO2 or O? You seem to be bitter about logging. As far as I know those were done on tree farms not in the areas where there is densely populated neighborhoods. It would be interesting to see a area map of tree farms and compare it to forest fire coverage areas. I would have think FF dwarf logging in terms of tree destruction.
@josephwoo69 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Trees are not the problem. Large trees like California redwoods are actually quite fire resistant. Did you even watch the video? The issue is that thereβs a huge buildup of excess βfuelsβ (dead plants, sticks, straw, etc). Chopping down trees and leaving the fuels would only make the issue worse
@jacksonong2576 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Iβm shocked the US hasnβt already adopted this method of fire management! This has been standard practice in Australia for decades?
@5frogfrenzy 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
We do, the problem is that home owners are critical of anything happening in their backyard. Even if it saves their homes. "Not in my backyard" is a very prevalent way of thinking over here.
@taylorbug9 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Don't be shocked anytime there is something to be done you can trust that America will do it the dumbest most ineffective way. This is the American way ever since they stole this land from its rightful (and diligent) owners.
@jacksonong2576 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@5frogfrenzy back burning isnβt done in peoples backyards though itβs performed in state forests and national parks where thereβs large vegetation growth
@5frogfrenzy 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@jacksonong2576 im not talking about literally in their backyards. "NIMBY" doesnt refer directly to the backyard but to the community. The burning of the surrounding area of a property will often times meet resistance from a community that would benefit from prescribed burns. This is why the forest service doesnt do it often. There are many communities on or near FS land that can stop or dissuade it from doing these burns.
@jacksonong2576 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@5frogfrenzy well when you said backyard thatβs what it impliedπ I understand tho! Thatβs a very selfish way of thinking and itβs no wonder Californiaβs wildfires are intensifying so much each year
@tenapics Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Here in Spain, forest firefighters are always asking to have a full year contract to take care of the forest the whole year. This is one of the ways they would do to prevent huge fires but politicians only contract them during fire season, making their jobs so much difficult
@calebkrochalk8286 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I want to say that I learned about this stuff in middle school. In Minnesota at least, sustainable forestry and controlled burns has reduced the amount of many mega fires. The worst fires usually only happen because of blowdowns.
@mxmissy 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
We have the same thing here in Australia, called backburning. And it's also documented that our first nations people have also done that too, it's called cultural burning. It was discontinued in Australia but recently has been reintroduced. And it's being called in due to the 2019-2020 bushfires we dealt with.
@cheryl-lynnmehring8606 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
So informative, I learned a ton as always!!! Not just about fire but indigenous people, plants, & culture! β€
@juanelissetche6776 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I do prescribed burns and this was one of the biggest topics we covered when we talked about the over accumulation of litter and itβs links to wildfires
@Yutappy99 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Like many things in life, balance is the key.
@vinceb8041 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Ah, the good old US, trying to solve one problem with some intuitive, fast-thought solution and creating 10 new ones in the process. Where have I seen that before?
@LimeyLassen 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Like how cane toads were imported to Australia to solve a pest problem. Big oof.
@rubbersidedown5620 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I did a school report on this like 3 decades ago and we still keep making the same mistakes.
@uniaodemocraticaruralista2924 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This was uploaded 6 min ago, video is 8 min long and people are commenting without watching the full video
@tucosalamanca5818 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Australia has been doing this for ages while America is just finding out lol
@notwilshire 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
They do this in the Southeast US. People in West US donβt.
@hameley12 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
LOL! True, for such a mature and leading country full of "smart men" who like to ignore indigenous women and men. Hundreds of years later "by the way this is our idea" π No! The indigenous people knew better! I am still learning about Native Americans and how to grow some of their medicinal plants at home.
@xKuukkelix 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Same with finland. We've been doing this for a long time
@kaavi1391 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@hameley12 without those ' smart men ' you probably wouldn't be alive today or have internet to write a comment on.
@kanduyog1182 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@kaavi1391 I think he was being sarcastic about how the "smart men" are just only recently learning stuff that's been common knowledge to Native Americans for hundreds of years with regards to the well being of the environment.
@mal9369 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
It's so good that were finally listening to native voices when it comes to land stewardship. The knowledge and wisdom they hold is immeasurable and disregarding them for centuries has lead to this country's ruin in many ways. Only by existing in harmony with the natural way of the ecosystem can we ever build a sustainable life
@zeromailss 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Excellent animation, it help to understand the concept instead of becoming more confusing
@Ledzeppelinfan42 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Great video but felt like the Indigenous Australians and fire management in Australia shouldβve got a mention. Our indigenous people have been back burning thousands of years
@32fps 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Why? Our indigenous people did it too--they mentioned it in the video--so why also mention Australia? The video is talking about America.
@changedpace9169 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This is literally about America you dingus
@mxmissy 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@32fps Sadly, Australia is known for our bushfires. It would've been nice if they mentioned Australia, sure it's an American company, but it's nice to learn about things outside your backyard.
@32fps 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@mxmissy Not trying to knock Australia here, but my point is it's a video about America--specifically in the west--not that's it's by an American company. Vox has done plenty of videos about other countries, but this one was specifically aimed at Americans and our history with it. You say Australia is known for bush fires, but California is also known for large forest fires. I guess my irritation stems from the weird abundance of people acting like Australia NEEDED to be in this video. It didn't. If I did a video about similar weather events--let's say, floods along the Mississippi--and how they're worse now because of dams, development, climate change, etc., and how natives used to allow those areas to flood because it produced better crops but knew not to put their houses along the river, should I expect outrage from every place on earth that this has happened to? If this video was about fires in general, then yeah, they should include Australia, but it wasn't.
@poojabajantri1540 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I'm actually glad that the forest service in my area does prescribed burns twice a year, May to June and October to November. And the people here are actually okay with it. Our town has burned down three times (1860s to 1920s), and so we're more at ease when we know there isn't much fuel for a fire to go through.
@ok-pn6hg 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
You can't espouse environmental protection while causing environmental degredation and retain credibility. The native people know what is best for California. They tended to it like a garden for centuries before the Spanish showed up.
@mwhalfmann 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Forest Service: *starts thinning out a pine tree stand* Town: "We and the Sierra Club have come together to STOP you and your destructive ways!" Town: "why didnt you do anything to prevent this forest fire that incinerated our homes!!!"
@nirreznik8567 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I Remember seeing a national geographic documentary and one of the explanation to the worsening of forest fires in the usa was due to the suppression of fire changing the age of the trees the majority of the trees after the fire suppressions were young trees that burned much quickly and caused bigger fires. It nice to see an additional causes for forest fires in this video.
@stillfoufou 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
So grateful that in Sequoia National Park there have been prescribed fires in the Sequoia grove known as the Giant Forest since the 1960s. Those 60 years of prescribed fires have - so far - saved the trees from the worst of the fire that is happening there now. Yosemite National Park also does prescribed fires. You won't see them in the summer. They happen late fall/winter.
@azj_ 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Google: How to put out a fire? Use water. Bing: How to put out a fire? Use fire.
@AnOriginalYouTuber 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
"9 out of 10 fires are started by humans. Only you can prevent forest fires" - Smokey Bear
@morteza1024 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
We should have only prevented those 9.
@Robert08010 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
In the Jersey Pines, we see reminders of forest fires all the time. But having learned these lessons, I started looking more objectively at what remains after a forest fire. One area I noticed a fire rolled through quickly and there was very little underbrush. The ground was scorched as were the tree trunks up to about 3 or 4 feet. But the canopy overhear was unaffected and that area looked 100% back to normal in just a few months. Another area that had denser underbrush and so burned slower and much hotter. In that area the fire was hot enough to ignite the trees and so that area was stripped bare. Even 6+ years later, that area is not back to normal. New growth has begun but all the old growth was wiped out.
@44BlueFoxes 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This was interesting. Thank you for posting!
@jrussell6579 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This is literally what Australian indigenous knew. in aus they do back burns.
@Arguinghen 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The only problem is that the way the Australian government try to replicate this does not work out. Like cmon man, let the professionals do their job.
@hedgehog3180 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@Arguinghen The Australian government is like a mini-US at times but somehow they're even more racist against their indigenous citizens.
@mccallanger6734 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
THIS. We need to get back healthy, balanced forest environments
@jdmmg4904 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thanks for covering this
@that1guyyoukno 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I remember the 2003 cedar creek fire. I actually woke up because our mountain side was glowing in fire. Had to wake my parents up too. We stayed at grandmas house for months. I feel like it took years for the air quality to improve
@undr_guv_surv 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The people who took this land had no idea about how to take care of it
@ok-pn6hg 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Exactly. California was a big garden for the natives before the Spanish showed up.
@formoth3rrussia472 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
they should of held on to there land better then
@thebasicbee2098 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I am sure the title got many of us confusedπ
@sr.liam17 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Not us Australians!
@jhunz23 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Amazing research. Thank you Vox β€οΈ
@Tarquin2718 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Elizabeth Azzuz is so awesome I can't wrap my head around it. Thank you, thank you for your knowledge and commitment.
@donutchan8114 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I remember a biology book explaining the process of forest regrowth after a fire, but it took several years of additional information to piece together the need of controlled fires to thin out the brush. Wish this had been pieced together sooner by people who could do something about it.
@MoonLiteNite 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@6:43 Of that 85%, cigs only cause
@wahyu-adji 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
thank you for the animation, i finally get it
@Matty002 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
i remember learning about this in high school in socal, and was confused as to why we werent already doing this
@danielthomas3322 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
"But decades of suppression have led to a buildup of..." The American Way :')
@joshu1918 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Environmentalists: We have to stop forest fires! Vox: hehe fire go brr
@ashutoshkulkarni290 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
π
@killpy12 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
interesting hearing that there are places still not doing this. lots of pine forest where i grew up, and we learned in school about control burns and how they kept the forest healthy. I just assumed it was a thing the "adults" knew to do wherever there was forest
@brostrod 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
as a wise man once said: "Stopping fires isn't about saving the forest, it's about saving human infrastructure"
@noonesenemy89 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I need to strongly disagree on "fire isn't always a destructive force". It is. That's can be beneficial, if all is balanced.
@stalker2084 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Vox can literally talk about Arsonists and they can make it scientific and interesting
@bri1085 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Arson is interesting, would be more concerning if they couldn't make it interesting
@xKuukkelix 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Controlled burning of the forest has nothing to do with arson
@fgsaramago 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@xKuukkelix how not? It's the laziest way of dealing with the problem
@domenicocor1185 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@fgsaramago it's actually way difficult we do it in italy since 2018 and it require a lot of programming, because cities are a lot closer to forest than in the usa and you need to study the species of trees the Bush under them the geology and lastly the weather
@fgsaramago 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@domenicocor1185 here in Portugal we have the air force doing that. Turns out it's actually good training for them.
@jamesmorris2010 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
We've heard this same story for 30 years. The problem is changing public policy to actually do it.
@jeenee_ 8 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
We keep breaking the record on wildfires year after year
@TheEyrie 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Even though I don't live anywhere near a forest, I know that controlled burns are important for their ecology.
@formoth3rrussia472 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
yeah after u watched the video
@branpod 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
We do controlled burns where I live and hardly ever have actual wildfires. Maybe certain states should learn a thing or twoβ¦
@MoonLiteNite 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Same, in central texas, we get a mid size wildfire like every 10 years or so, actually last one was 10 years ago, and that was one huge, before that was like 15?
@assumjongkey1383 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Well I don't understand what you said
@branpod 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@assumjongkey1383 that is unfortunate
@assumjongkey1383 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@branpod can u explain that are you trying to say
@branpod 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@assumjongkey1383 the fire department is responsible for starting small, controlled fires in the woods. This allows for pine cones to release their seeds, repopulating the trees. Additionally, burning off the excess brush decreases the chance of wildfires starting and causing real damage. In a world without humans, lightning would be used to regulate forests via fires. But, since wildfires cause harm to us, controlled burns allow for this maintenance without harming people
@1965Grit 8 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
When you say removing older, overgrown areas of vegetation, I think,,,clear cut logging!!! We had far less catastrophic fires when logging was allowed, ( and no, climate change has nothing to do with this discussion. ) We had less catastrophic fires because logging was the best way to manage the forests, it got rid of all the underbrush, the older trees and all other fire hazards, then they would replant new tres that would grow into healthy forests, now we have privately owned healthy forests, that are bordering unmanaged national forests, and the national forests are putting the private forests in danger, we deal with this constantly here in Oregon, this years Bedrock fire is the 4th fire in the same area in 10 years, and the result has been the same every time, it burns for months until the rainy season, we spend millions of dollars for firefighting, after the fire they do nothing to clear the area and replant trees, the underbrush grows back in, then another fire breaks out, Rinse and repeat,,, total mismanagement!!!!
@sassy3923 10 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Why are the indigenous peoples so much smarter than the rest of us? Could it be their humble respect for life as opposed to our incessant greed for profits? Let's put them in charge for a change......
@AshVXmc 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Ferb, I know what we're gonna do today!
@paleoph6168 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Can you do a video on rhino dehorning? I think it is worth exploring this controversial topic.
@itsfhproductions5290 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
People really need to listen, to actually listen, to the indigenous peoples because they have always known best about this
@Fasteroid 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
On a bus tour in Alaska, my tour guide said the exact same things about fires being a natural part of forests.
@rachit-sharma 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Literally the same thing Stossel said. His video's reach was limited by social media...
@kianhansen4177 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
thank you big tech eh
@abdielmoreno-cruz354 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This video brings a lot of clarity to the recent fires that have been happening. Unfortunately a majority of the public will still believe βOh no climate change with forest fires is badβ. Theyβre not entirely wrong, but itβs common knowledge fire is an element for a reason. Letβs just do our best to push through in a manner thatβll benefit the environment and ourselves as a species
@LukeJukeDuke 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Vox never disappoints with these kinds of videos
@DaveParr 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
It's true in France too. Fire suppression in France around vineyards gave significantly changed the diversity and success of woodlands in surrounding areas. The fuel build up issue is also true.
@dysfunctionalisme Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I came over from the Larynx video to watch her say "fahrest"
@dillonfrylinck639 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Same π
@roseashkiiii4361 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yes π
@l_MIK_l 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Arsonists: No need to thank meπ₯
@taylorrayburn1078 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This is really an out west problem I feel like. We have controlled burns all the time in Mississippi.
@AzariusR 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I can finally state the term *Fight fire with fire* in a literal sense now. Thanks!
@idonotmakevidsyet 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
These techniques of controlled burning have been around for thousands of years and was used by Indigenous Americans and Australians. So its not "hundreds of years".
@mightymistermike 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This is called "The Thanos Strategy" Edit: Great. Vox ruined my joke
@toshi_btc 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
freaks are emerging
@old-moose Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
As a boy growing up on a Montana cattle ranch, I remember my dad buying live trapped beavers to release in streams on the ranch to provide late summer water and winter shelter for the cattle.
@galacticmechanic1 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I would like see see something more about how they do those baskets, that sounded like an interesting topic just thrown out at the end
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