This will always happen with anything niche. Mass market products tend to get longest support since the company wants people to keep buying the stuff even several years after the launch. It's not the case with niche stuff as there won't be anymore people buying after the launch, so there's no incentive for the company to keep the support

5 yrs (Samsung) vs 2 or 3 years for Sony - not cool!

That and software is ass

Not only Sony, Motorola..

@@hirukashiro5995 the damage was done back when they WERE a major player as Sony-Ericsson... They dropped support for phones within a year... It burned so much of their fan-base. The situation they're in now, with low adoption numbers, is because they screwed over their past customers. I think they make some of the best looking phones, but I'll never buy another. Never.

My thoughts exactly

Actually I always considered the 5 more as a compact flagship instead of "only" premium mid-range. Apart from Apple, Sony has been the only company that was able (or willing) to put premium tech and features in a compact case.

almost everything he said the xperia 5 already does. They just really need to step up their point and shoot game... though based on other reviews, the mark V series is a huge step forward towards a great auto mode.

And V is a bit too expensive. I still bought myself V mk4 though, but it was with a discount and xm4 bundle

Or even drop the Ace line. It feels like they'd have to sacrifice too much to keep all Sony thing to compete with all $150-300 phones. Imo the sweet spot would be PRO-I as it is, bring in everything you have, Xperia 1 - 6.5" 4K flagship, Xperia 5 - 6" 1440p premium mid-range, Xperia 10 - 5.5" 1080p mid range. I'd gladly swap to Sony with such lineup

But I thought the photos were terrible. (FYI, I am a Sony phone owner).

What photographer/videographer would buy this? If you're going to shell out this much dough and you're already in the industry, there's a chance you already have a dedicated camera for it. Also the phone doesn't do anything above and beyond what a galaxy s22 ultra or 23 ultra can do if you're an up and coming media creator

@@memofromessex automode photos are terrible. Manual are among best there is. But casuals like me cannot use manual setting, i have no idea what they do and i dont want to learn it. I want to point and shoot. And that exactly the weak spot of them, while professionals can archive much greater result on them compared to other phones.

Audiophiles love the Xperias as well, I hope these things get more attention in the future.

The “imagine technology” of S23u and iPhones is terrible

4. Provide updates for at least 5 years Nobody is spending over 1k for a phone that doesn't get updated after 2 years.

Never mind minor bugs, reduce major bugs

sony just needs to sell their phones to more then the US, if you only sell it to a single country in the entire world no wonder its sales are so low.

the thing is mostly that sony doesnt need to make a profit of the phones, it seems like its just someone at sony that wants phones their way and is ready to keep that going no matter how well they are recieved by the masses, since the phone is not for the masses, its for a niche group that enjoys android phones they were before everyone was trying to be more like apple... qualcom recently announced that sony will make phones for years to come so it seems it doesn't hurt them continuing the way they operate now.

@@chronchris1486 i mean they will have to do that at some point if they want to continue selling in the EU since there will be a regulation for that... they haven't announced a final update window for the 1 V yet, so there is a tiny chance it might have that

Did you find anything close?

Seriously, finding a good phone that has a headphone jack is way too hard nowadays

For me it's sd card, 120hz and latest SD like gen 8 +2, currently am using razer phone 2 been looking at Sony but their prices are crazy. My budget 500-800 dollars for next 3-5 year's

sony if you are reading this, i really hope you keep keeping on.

​@@Shahyan008 if that u range wait for 5 mk V. i not recommend 5 mk IV cuz SD overheat issue

@@carolljohn3148 I'm waiting for this one too 😉

Right? This is like the 3rd Sony flagship review where MB talks about how bad the auto mode is and how amazing the pro mode is but doesn’t show a single example. I’d gladly buy this over the next pixel (and learn how to use it) if he showed it was superior

It's a little harder because in the PRO mode, the only way you're getting most of it, is if you're saving both raw + jpg. And it's the raw images that allow you to recover more of the highlights and shadows with better exposure and white balance tuning. Straight out of the camera, maybe not much since the BASIC mode already pre-processes by applying noise reduction algorithms and sometimes, HDR.

@@joshuabrunetta4656 At this point Sony should just pay him to do it if it can really perform in the right hands. Otherwise it's just a confirmation bias

Sony's auto mode outshine even gcam . Many people don't know it .

from others review, Sony's auto mod is not that bad as how MB said. last gen for example even on par or better in some case against flagship from google and apple

Yeah, it's a similar case for multitude of Japanese companies in general. Domestic market demand completely trumps foreign demand, leading to Japanese companies to focus primarily on the trends of the Japanese market. Even if Japanese companies want to access foreign markets, they have no idea how to do it & it leads to ineffective efforts. One of my friends who works in the music industry said that foreign markets are the lowest priority, to the point that he had to beg his superiors to do social media campaigns for foreigners because they didn't care at all.

Also only sells in Japan. Nobody else even know Sony has a smartphone.

1 - an American viewpoint does not mean it's a worldwide viewpoint. We need to stop believing that our perspective is universal around the globe as that's a good portion why many countries are turning away from us. 2 - a company like Sony isn't going to make a foreign specific phone just for the eyes of America, or Europe, cause they'll be crucified. It's no different to the American outrage towards movie companies that began to focus on the Chinese market since their movie audience started to catch up and occasionally surpassed ours in terms of money made.

Galapagos Syndrome

Even for weebs as me, they sucked at software part. I wanted to pay for a stable phone that would do its job, but got a phone that freezes for a half a minute a few times a day. Wtf

80% of what mkbhd said has been on the market in the name of Xperia 5. 6.1", 1080p, 120 hz, HDR screen. The auto mode has been improved through the years I believe, especially in 1 V.

Ugh if only he’d see your comment.

Exactly this!

The idea of the test, though, is to show the experience the most basic user will have - just point and shoot with whatever auto settings the phone chooses. If you involve manually configuring your camera settings, there should be a separate competition only for manual mode shots, which will take sooo much more time to make and produce.

this is the exact weak spot of DXOMark - they test all phones on default settings, which makes their scores and comparisons way off.

you should say this closer to when he is actually going to do that and probably on twitter as he's not going to see this and definitely not remember about your comment months later

Honestly, I think this video is missing the point. Sony is not going anywhere. They DO make profitable popular products, they make Playstation, TVs, headphones, cameras, lenses. Their business is not in danger. Whether they add a new cheaper popular phone model doesn't change their decisions on continuing or stopping making expensive flagships.

Well lg and sony won't ever die as they do much more than just phones but yeah they're phones might be gone soon

The point with Japan is definitely true. Japanese companies feel so weird at times: They do some things better than everyone else but then oftentimes they seem to get the most basic stuff wrong like they're living in an echo chamber without any user feedback or outside criticism. I notice that a lot with Nintendo too.

​@@grumd0from a business perspective they could say we should close the smartphone department

Sony won't die, but their mobile division might if they don't make these adjustments.

I still have the Z1, Z3, and Z4 in my junk drawer. all broken... but was amazing back then!

If any phone would get me to switch back to android, it would be a do it all sony Xperia. They make the most aesthetic phones in the entire market.

@@RealNathanExplosion That's the reason I also would switch to andorid again! Those SM Galaxy, Oppo, OP Phones are all in their way good, but Sony always has a special place in my heart when it comes to smartphones. If they would release a smartphone for the mass I would buy it for sure! Hope they will also follow suit and support their software for 3-4 years instead of 2.

Sony already builds the phone he wishes for - it is the Xperia 5 series

Yeah some school dropout from da hood (marcus blacklee) is going to tell the best tech company on earth how to run a business? He better focus on being a runaway dad and selling drugs back in da hood

Na Sony has a Niche target market ... Average user wont even know or care about all the profesional features it has....

Yes! I agree. And why produce something mediocre?

The Porsche Appliances are called Panamera, Cayenne and Macan.

Not a sound analogy with Porsche. Sony does have many Cayennes. TVs, camera, headphones ... really most electronics you can think of. Also, they did offer cheaper phones for over a decade and those phones were actually the reason their phone division went down. Maybe tech reviewers should stick to reviewing tech and stop trying to be business strategy consultants.

​@@e.vandesande4487 I don't think the path marques layed out would be considered mediocre. Seems like a fantastic pixel alternative in the making.

i know you are a content creator since i follow you on isnta (i love your stuff btw), if i am not wrong you are an Iphone user, but im wondering, according to your statement, do you think you would switch to an xperia mark in a few years? 👀

Brilliant design by Sony which also include the Xperia 10 Mark 5. But I can't afford them. All I can do is continue using this less than 100 US dollar phone with no notch and no hole in it's 5.45" screen. It comes with big top and bottom bezels, notification light, wireless FM radio, a 3-card slot and a 4000mAH Battery. That's enough for me at the moment.

Yeah, it’s simple but thought out

But it’s behind , well it’s not bad

@@dead_on_departure Yea sadly their sales aren't up that much so they can't produce more to make them cheap.

@@dead_on_departure I think smartphone shouldn't have notch design. I'm one of the guy who's waiting for phones that look like Xperia 10 V.

That misses the entire point

Nah, keep your cheap ccp phones with y’all.

​@@mishka1313Nah, Keep your racist opinions to yourself

No

​@@mishka1313agree. This for the big boys

He's wrong though. Sony tried competing with Apple and Samsung for years and kept losing money. Now they've moved to selling super expensive phones to their camera fans and are finally making a profit. If they followed Marques' advice they'd go the way of HTC and LG.

@@ShreN_ Their Sony Xperia 10 Mark 4 is just 300-400€ and is great even has a Headphone jack and personally i dont see how you would need more than that but thats just my opinion and yes the people that do need a better camera in their phone can still go to sony for their more flagship phones wich have an amazing camera though yes the automode isnt that great although i think people that need that good of a camera should be able to use it manually

Marques Brownlee should know that SONY is never going to do any of those things that he has suggested. For a Japanese company it is more honorable to fail and to go bankrupt then listen to its customer's suggestions and give the customer what they want. It is completely against the Japanese customs and traditions to comply with its customers, because it makes them look bad thus causing them to lose face. Japanese motto is either you take what we give you or if you have any complains then you should not have taken it in the first place, because the company always knows what is best for the customers.

Japanese companies are...... complicated...

I've been waiting for Sony to get it right for half a decade! Flat screen, no punch hole, dedicated camera shutter button, variable aperture are all Sony hallmarks which I LOVE!! I wish they just got a simple point-and-shoot camera with AI assist and Sony's off to the races with the big boys!

It needs to be called the Xperia M1 with the M referring to Marques

Sony is stubborn.. 😂 they won't do it..

@@danielobioma9091 Not just stubborn, they are arrogant and taking an advice is beneath them. And Marques is not even Japanese, which is another major factor.

they wont lol

tbh they know that they cant compete in the mass appealing segment and cant stay profitable, at least their current philosophy gives consistentcy and since they are still in the game they are probably profiting.

Nah.

hell naah. Porsche was a car consultant first, car builder second, also Porsche owned and still owns VW group. Also he is giving an advise that he would later comment as mediocre and go with Samsung or Apple.

@@deividasnavickas Sony already has the PlayStation and TVs. They don't need this mid level phone.

Unbox Therapy is better

​@@deividasnavickasNo...The other way around...The VW Group owns Porsche...

I think thats a fun idea, but it should probably be something like a fullframe mirrorless camera, dslrs are pretty much outdated tech at this point.

The difference with a camera is not visible on a smartphone screen. The camera lets you get some pictures the phone can't IF you know how use the camera. Also a camera demands you to postprocess the images. It's her purpose. Even cameras like Fuji has some preprocessing features that give them their distinctive look.

​@@JacksonKillroyWhile picture quality between phone cameras and DSLRs are similar enough for most, DSLRs give more freedom over your image through swappable lenses and precise control over aperture and exposure. Phone cameras are more than enough for most people and even most photographers, but fine control over specific aspects of the photograph allow for a greater expression of creativity.

@@NulromI’m curious what you think is “not visible” on a smart phone screen from a mirrorless camera? Because I can tell, with extreme ease, the difference between my iPhone photos and my Sony a6400

But smartphone cameras are meant to be point n shoot, DSLR or any mirrorless are not.

Also crazy how they decide not to bring it to the US market (or so i’ve heard).

Are you serious? You think this guy gave Sony the idea? Sony been making xperia 5 for like 5 years now. And before that there was the comoact series of phones which were essentially the same concept this guy claiming to be a 'new idea'.

@siddharthchakravarty2099 No I didn't say they got the ideas from him I Was just very surprised at the fact that almost every point in this video had been addressed on their new phone.

@@slicknick29 Why be very surprised by something that the company has been doing almost 10 years before this guy said something about it? Its like Brad Pit looking handsome since teenage. And someone says ''I wish brad pit was handsome'' and next year new movie releases and you see brad pit being handsome. Would you be surprised then?

​​@@siddharthchakravarty2099brands nowadays actually pay attention to what online tech reviewers say about their phones/products because the reviewers can have a decent effect on their sales. I remember Marqus mentioning that tech companies will usually reach out to him prior to the release of his review video of their product to incorporate his suggestions (if possible). I believe it was on Flagrant.

Side mounted finger print sensor is the most convenient to use...... F this in display sensors.....

@@nothing9220 I like the one on the back on my s8+ the most. I can even pull down the notification shade by swiping down on it. The thing is like having a trackpad and I don't even need to adjust my hand to use it!

The hardware is great in many aspects. The software experience is not; 2 years of updates for +1000USD/EUR phone is unacceptable in 2023. Also the "3 camera apps, none of them good for casual camera user" is just poor design.

the LED and the headphone jack should definitely get back on the mainstream.

@@ikuturso7570 Thats because their 1000USD phones are mainly for enthusiasts and not casual phone camera users if you want good automode you should go for their 300-400€ sony xperia 10 mark 4 it has an alright camera that should be enough for every casual camera user and the hardware in of it self is way worth more than the 300€ you pay for it in my opinion

Of course the perfect one is the 5 iv which is what I currently have. I do prefer my pixel for point and shoot but the Xperia is so slim, light and 5k battery. Perfect

Sony phones is still the best yet

I had a Z3 also, it was the phones I liked the most till today

Will continue using my xz1 compact until sony makes the compacts again.

im still using the z5c since launch. using it for roughly 8 years now and still somewhat going strong. its definitely on crutches now after 8 years from overheat lag, screen burn from 15 minutes of the same screen and slowly disappears after a few minutes, some UI disconfigure due to small screen+resolution and modern app updates are for large screens and resolutions, headphone jack used SOOOO MUCH that its broken now, bluetooth stutters occasionally/often enough because of phone lag, battery life somewhat being drained by modern apps power usage because the phones battery is TINY the biggest one of these is cell signal strength is pretty mediocre at best because its so outdated. none of these make the phone unusable but its just being used on crutches now. luckily i dont use my phone much besides reading/youtube/internet browse/phone call and text/youtube/and surprisingly TAP PAYMENT STILL WORKS because sony had NFC from SOOOOOOOOOO long ago even with the z3c which i stopped using.

I still long for something like Z3 compact tablet 😢

Z1 Compact 🤌

Z1 was bomb ❤

The compact was one of the best phones I've ever had

​@@chronchris1486omg yes! I had one in white! I miss the sony themes. Their icons were always so classy looking.

Z5 premium

it's funny how MKBHD essentially explained the exact screen specifications of the 5 IV as if Sony wasn't already making a phone like that...

@@DMadHacksBut what do you expect from someone who uses an iphone all their life...

Tbh I don’t get the hate for the photos. It looks a lot more natural than the competition. The overexposure maybe a thing with Asians preferring brighter images too

​@@Michael-dx8qzNot really, the overexposure is due to Xperia using face metering. Since it wasn't optimized for darker skin tones, it tends to overexpose with Marques in frame.

@@pixels_per_inch Well thats pretty stupid

they did? 5 series is still going sice 5 years ago

Amazing ones. My all time favourite smartphone is Z3 Compact. Just the best

@@alexisolivares4274 It was nice having a good phone without being forced to stuff a TV screen in your pocket.

agreed. Would love a new premium compact 5.8 inch phone. Would be great to have a 1 inch sensor on a 5.8 inch phone.

I had a 5 compact but the battery life was so bad i had to get rid of in after a couple months

How's it so far?

so far its been brilliant... i watch media content ie streaming like Disney+, Prime, Netflix etc. and videos look gorgeous... im playing CoD Mobile and honestly the games runs at 120Hz and is looking lovely... my username on CoD is Kae717... but the highlight for me was the camera... i have a semi pro Panasonic GF1 and i dont need to take it anywhere now as my Xperia 1 mk V is just a better (smartphone camera) price is expensive sure but its premium tech. and the S23/S24 arent dissimilar in price anyways... but im a Sony guy from way way back... my 1st Sony phone was in 1999/2000... it was a CMD Z5... so as long as Sony make smartphones ill always buy them but dont get me wrong at various price points for Android there are some lovely phones... i particularly loved the Asus RoG phone... so its personal taste... chk my UKposts for a coaching video i shot and edited entirely on my Xperia 1 back in 2019/2020... @@alispikey2219

"Without much effort" is subjective. Their camera and video apps in the phone come with all the same settings and menu options as the alpha cameras. The phones also come with really good subject detection and auto focus. Which means if you know how to set shutter speed, ISO, and aperture then you're going to have great photos even when the subject is moving in an action shot. If you really dial in the customizable presets then I bet you can get a comparable photo form this phone as a camera 2-3 times the price. But with default and auto settings an alpha camera isn't that impressive. I spent a few hours setting up my a7iv and a7c, creating presets for different lenses and lighting conditions... That's a lot to ask for someone with a phone where the moment might be lost by the time you dial in the settings.

Which mirrorless camera? I'm a camera novice who wants something semi-pro but doesn't want to spend my whole life "learning cameras". Sony has always made great shit but I'm curious which you think is the most consumer-friendly.

@@reanimationxp I really like using the a7iv and my gmaster lenses. But something like the sony fe 35mm f1.8 would be fine for most people. The main thing is what your intended use would be for the camera? Most people that spend $4000 on a camera and lens, but don’t learn all the ends in out, are often times better off just using their cell phone. Part of what makes mirrorless cameras and separate lenses so compelling is the complete freedom to change any setting to match your environment. Otherwise you’ll end up with white blown out skies, a group photo with half the people in focus, or images with colors that feel completely unnatural. Granted, a lot of cell phones get all those things wrong too, but they are cheaper and multifunctional.

Not sure what he's talking about. My Xperia 1 III takes better photos than the IPhone 14 Pro in point and shoot. It produces more detailed images while keeping it realistic. Lots of phones nowadays just applies so much sharpening and structure which makes everything look like plastic. Not being racist here but Xperia uses face metering and since it's not optimized for darker skin tones it tends to overexpose. You can fix this by turning off face detection though.

That's actually a good idea ngl

Bro even though a manual camera photoes might turn out to be better, its not like you are going to use it everytime, it beats the purpose of smart phone camera, most of the people just like to open there camera and click photos, and if i want a manuel camera to click photos i would rather go for a dslr, at these price range you will get way way better quality of photos than by a phone..

@@RapperParthPrajapati not necessarily, I like to take pics with a DSLR but it's heavy and annoying to carry around, I would love to sometimes just take out my smartphone but still be able to manually adjust the settings to get the picture I want.

@@RapperParthPrajapati yeah but it's also true that using just auto mode in sony's cameras in a comparison is unfair to it. it doesn't represent the true capability of sony's cameras. a comparison is all about a device's strengths and weaknesses. using just auto mode only shows it's weakness, not it's strength.

@@Almaironn well it dependes person to person, a guy who wants to do a professional photography will any way chose a proper camera as compared to a smart phone camera, at 1400 price point, even if i go for 700 dollar smart phone, and 700 dollar dslr, i would be getting best of the both world, a good smartphone camera to click photos on the go, and a dslr for a better professional photography. And a 700 dollar dslr will still out perform a 1400 dollar samrtphone camera in professional photofraphy. Well its just how i prefer..

I love you, you're great

They still are, it's just that most people don't know it.

It's too late, they cannot surpass the likes of xiaomi and realme anymore

@@kiyoponnn they can actually, there's this new brand called Tecno, look at their new released one, it's already called a flagship killer this year.

Even most japanese people are using iPhone..

​@@kiyoponnn Xiaomi nor Realme aren't doing anything special tho, they all look the same, and they only improve the camera and more fast charging

You didn’t “really want” it or you would have waited

​@@toptiertech7291 not everyone can wait that long. Even me is guilty of not waiting for too long. I bought a Pixel 6a last December instead of waiting for 7a which I knew would come out soon that time.

​@@toptiertech7291I was in the same scenario, and my phone broke in the 6 month wait for the phone. I couldn't go without a phone for 3 months, so I went with my next best option. It's an issue, no matter the circumstance

NPC comment

​@@toptiertech7291 That's not a reason to wait. :)

Go away bot

Experiments killed LG

report it

Lg did the same and look at then now, dead.

At this point they’re not experimenting, they’re just intentionally being inefficient. They’ve had this problem since the Ion a decade ago. Sony isn’t growing as a company, they’ve shut down just about every store in the states, massive layoffs every year. They’ve fallen from the grace of being the most innovative tech company in the world to being content with mediocrity. The Porsche comparison isn’t accurate. Sony is more like Jaguar. A company that’s been in limbo for decades not knowing how to effectively convert consumers and become relevant again.

Sony said they don't care about the masses they only care about their fans

👏👏👏

He won't "review" it. He doesn't generally do videos on Sony devices of any kind.

Sadly the Xperia 5 V didn't release in the US. I just got the 5 IV and I'm really enjoying it so far. Really hoping whatever becomes the 5 VI releases stateside.

xperia sp or so? great phone with awesome quality and led bar on the bottom

@@DM-io8dp the one that had green led or light At the bottom? That's My favorite android..

My 2nd smartphone was a Sony Xperia Arc S... my god I rmb I looked for that phone for about 2 months because it was nowhere to be found and I didn't want the "normal" Arc, I wanted the Arc S... that arched back, the way it felt while holding it, amazing The downside that kept me away from Sony phones since then is the damn software support... the phone was more or less just out and software support "died" max 2 years later... managed to brick it trying to instal a xda custom rom and that was the end of me even looking in the general direction of a Sony smartphone, these phones are amazing, state of the art in terms of camera, looks, how it feels (played with one few years ago from a friend), but too bad the support is shitty and u either buy now the last year phone or wait couple of months for the new one to appear and by the time that happens... well Samsung, Apple, Google brings their new phone who gets so close to how photos look, it kinda isn't worth waiting or buying the Sony anymore :(

I had a sony xperia z3, it was amazing, waterproof, and not that expensive at the time. i loved it so much, until it broke one day sadly

Same mine was the Xperia X8

Their departments (mobile, camera, audio, gaming) are very compartmentalized and they often fear cannibalizing the brand. They could make a better camera and add a better DAC but they choose not to. Also Sony has a weird habit of complying with local standards like the EU having safe listening so their speaker and headphone volume is often quieter than it could be. Until more recently their mobile department seemed the most backwards/conservative/old-school like Nintendo and Canon.

@@omegavladosovich6757 This is what their new CEO is trying to fix. I don't see much of progress on that front, at least publicly.

Exactly

That ain't true

Own OS? They can't even get their phones right for Many reasons, let alone an OS. Shitty auto mode has been going around for like 10 years already.

Unfortunately, Sony is facing an extremely uphill battle for the international market, and they can all but forget trying to dominate their domestic market. The iPhone is BY FAR the best selling phone in Japan, and has been for over a decade.

Own OS would definitely hurt, because nobody would develop for it. Remember Windows Phone OS? Even such big SOFTWARE player as Microsoft could stay at the market where there were 2 OSes already present.

Sony should rather focus on VR headsets or other wear tech. Sometimes it’s good to give up on one areas to win the upcoming. Apple gave up on PCs and were ahead by 5 yrs in smartphone market. Sony can pull that off. Smartphone market or at least premium smartphone market is 2 horses race. Galaxy & iPhone.

I consider Sony's like-stock Android a feature. There's no point bloating it, let alone outright shipping a new OS...

Are they still making midranges now like 500 dollar phones?????

Yes.

Their midrangers are horrible Only their flagships are actually good

i wouldnt exactly call a snapdragon 695 for 500 dollars underrated

@@LT.dans_new_legs can you please name few of them,in our country they quitted smartphone market like 5 years ago hence i am not aware at all

its market. sony is researching and investing money into hardware part. In this case sensors. other companies buy them and pay for using it in their phones. but the result of the beatiful photo results is not only hardware part. Mostly its now all about post software processing. And here we have 2 ways again. Developing and Invisting by your own or buy it from the others. But just buying may have also conceptual restictions, which will force to rework their phone architecture or the other companies are just not selling such develepoments. why dont they do more investments in their own developement? Dono... Who knows, maybe they want to be as they are in the current state. Like "our phones for manual photo, dot" :D Some Managers have to switch their job.

Hello, Sony Enthusiast, Can I lure you into a kind of scam looking scheme, but in reality is top legitimate.

yes...

The entire reason I bought/use the III. Was, and is, one of the very few flagship-level phones (in the US) that had expandable storage and a headphone jack. No regrets at all.

My S20 is the last Samsung I'll use. whenever it hits the pavement is the day I switch to Sony (unless they also remove the sd card by then)

Exactly this - when I last upgraded my phone I actually went for the Note 20 Ultra instead of the S21 ultra simply because I didn't want to have to deal with trying to migrate all of my data (I've been using the same 256G micro SD card for years)

Huawei can too using nm cards

@@spiketwo666 Huawei steals iP Garbage company

I think part of it might also come down to gauging demand: there's more opportunity to scale manufacturing to purchasing so they don't overproduce a phone that they know is very niche. If they wanted to be able to sell the phone at launch, they would have to have already made enough back stock to cover potential sales; if those sales numbers don't keep up with the inventory, they have a lot of expensive hardware that they're unable to get rid of. I used to work in cell phone sales, and while I as the salesperson loved Sony phones, I very rarely had customers express an interest in buying them, even with an endcap showcasing live demos of the phone. Ultimately, they almost always went with Motorola or Samsung--for whatever reason, Sony just didn't attract customers' attention. So that leads to Sony making way more of those phones than they need to and buying saddled with old inventory. If they're waiting to see how many people put the money down for these phones, they can hedge their bets on manufacturing just a little bit and roll them out as customers want them. I don't know how their manufacturing process works, of course, but they just seem to be taking a very conservative approach to their sales.

I used a Samsung S10 for so many years (still use it) and it was fine but I also had some Sony phones and I must admit that they usually look way better.

"the window from announcement to release of phone gives an enthusiast like me ample time to prepare my finances, backup my work, and get ready for the upgrade." Those should all be done for any given moment to arrive to get a new phone. 1) You should always have more than enough to buy a new phone for any valid reason (accident, failure etc). 2) Backups should be done to your own NAS backup system by daily profile, using rsync, even hourly. 3) There is nothing to get "ready" when changing phones. Your home screen and its settings move between brands, your phone settings move so, your files, profiles etc. Only things that needs is renaming the new phone and configure it to work with backup system and your own services, and that takes like 30 min when you have documentation (to-do list) for that.

reaaach. you must hold your phone like an animal to cover a bezelless screen. just making up non-issues to have a contrarian take

Bezel, we hardly knew ye

Phones should have a large bezel on the chin only. Everything should be housed in it. Refer to tony stark phone in age of ultron

Worst part are the lunatics defending a hole in the display.

I miss pop up cameras. It's gonna be awful when I have to give up my mi9t for a hole punch display

PLEASE DO THIS!

No then they have to do manual and auto for every phone, also options are different for every phone.

@@chench1llaya they should do just that.. take RAWs and compare

Your post sounds too idiotic. Single Manual vs other auto?? If you want to see a comparison of Sony's Manual vs other. then other smartphone shots should also be in manual mode too...

@@deepakbisht4957 I meant..to compare between RAW capable phones.

Utter nonsense is the camera better than the s23. Not even close.

Same here, I had the Z3 and I loved it so much

​@@ESKATEUK bananagate..? S23 camera is actual garbage. I work in 1st level customer support for samsung, if I had a dollar for every complaint about these e-waste devices' camera quality, I could retire from this terrible job

and it looked so good

Likewise, Nothing could replace my Z5 too yet And can't find any Sony in my country either nowadays!

SD card, minijack, flat images to be processed as you wish ..

About the only thing I don't like is the aspect ratio. I had a mess around with my z ultra the other week and it is so much better. But then it seems like I'm about the only person who uses their phone in landscape a lot.

@@TheAkashicTraveller I almsot always use portrait and I miss the 2160p of my XZ Premium a little. 1644p on my Xperia 1 is nice, as is the reduced width for grip, however a shorter/smaller 16:9 3840x2160 device would be nice. I use adb to force native resolution and it's the best screen experience. Luckily I have good vision so it's a deal breaker to go away from this pixel density now. Sony all the way. This video glosses over a lot of the benefits.

@@pauljohnson2478 That's something that could be fixed on the software side but probably won't because it would require just about everyone involved in software for phones, including websites, to make that changes needed. In my case even if I did find a decent 16:9 phablet the software has pretty much completely left landscape behind for everything but video and games so much so that there aren't really any root apps for it anymore. I certainly miss lmt launcher.

but the same android os, every phone have. Nothing innovator.

Yep, Sony phones don't seem to have planned obsolescence, in fact they give you great battery protection features so that they last long. My Samsungs all die after 1 - 2 years, either the motherboard gives up, or the display will show a line, which gradually covers the entire screen.

I really loved the Xperia XA I had back in highschool. Yes it got slow over time since it was a budget device, but for 2016 ish, the camera was so good compared to what my parents had for example on their Huawei. Only got kinda slow cuz tech was moving quickly. I dropped it multiple times, nothing. Also I looove their official leather cases. Final note: can we have metal backs on phones back (have a cutout for the wireless charger but have rest be metal for example) and toolless SIM trays too

@@pixels_per_inch Don't know what you do with them, my S8 runs till this day.

@@MrVaidas82 Well, it wasn't my fault that the motherboard just died on my Note 4 and S7, or the screen turning completely white after showing a green line on my S20+, which happened right after a software update. Search these issues and you'll realised that Samsung were sued for planned obsolescence

think my xperia t3 held up pretty well and might have been the android i stuck with the longest. maybe it's time for another sony, although seems like it'd have to wait for a month or so.

Me too. I hope sony brings back the proper xperia compact to the masses

They changed the name from compact to 5. Like they did with the flagship, they changed the flagship to 1. The latest "compact" is 5iv and 5v is coming this winter.

Indeed, I really miss my Z2 and Z3.

@@muazqamar xperia 5s and 10s are nowhere close to compacts with their 6+ in display. However, they are making a flip phone and calling it a compact. Let's see how small that phone will be in the open condition.

im still using the z5c since launch. using it for roughly 8 years now and still somewhat going strong. its definitely on crutches now after 8 years from overheat lag, screen burn from 15 minutes of the same screen and slowly disappears after a few minutes, some UI disconfigure due to small screen+resolution and modern app updates are for large screens and resolutions, headphone jack used SOOOO MUCH that its broken now, bluetooth stutters occasionally/often enough because of phone lag, battery life somewhat being drained by modern apps power usage because the phones battery is TINY the biggest one of these is cell signal strength is pretty mediocre at best because its so outdated. none of these make the phone unusable but its just being used on crutches now. luckily i dont use my phone much besides reading/youtube/internet browse/phone call and text/youtube/and surprisingly TAP PAYMENT STILL WORKS because sony had NFC from SOOOOOOOOOO long ago even with the z3c which i stopped using.

Those people have REAL CAMERAS

​@@ClaxtonBay123 which they don't always have with them or wish to have with them.

@@timaustin2000 That's loser mentality.

Actual photographers and videographers use real cameras with quality lenses If they had to use a phone, they would at least want a 1 inch or larger sensor

But most of them use Iphones

And forgot to mention that I absolutely love not needing any tools to get the tray out. It's the little things. Lol

I must say my year with the 1 IV has been pretty good. The ability to use my wired headphones now and again is really nice, plus having all spotify downloads on the sd is great. The camera auto mode is the main gripe. I would like to be able to just do point and shoot sometimes. The 21:9 is something i will not switch from now and front facing speakers. I'll back Sony with myu money again next upgrade.

@@NathanTEG Did you tried to look up for any GCam mods for that phone?

also provide 1500usd phone with bugs and heating issues and gimmicks, this brand joking with fans like you( heating issues are not fom the older chipset its from stupid Sony management)....

@@NathanTEG Really you like the 21:9 ratio? I have the 1 II and absolutely HATE the 21:9 ratio. It's the only reason I won't be buying another Sony phone. it's absolutely useless for watching 16:9 content and makes me feel like I'm watching it on an iPod. Yes you can zoom, but it crops too much off to really consider it being watchable.

You are one of the few that does though, and that is Sony's big problem. There is a reason practically very other phone maker avoids 21:9 like the plague. They know it absolutely destroys sales. If Sony would just make one model with a normal aspect ratio they'd become immediate players in the phone market. But Sony seems to be run by complete idiots or they just don't care about every joining the big leagues when it comes to phones.

I reactivated my Rosso Red XZ Premium and I still love it!

In my region, eastern europe, Sony was soo popular from Xperia Z2 untill XZ premium, after that with the XZ2/XZ3 they started pulling out of market unfortunately. I ve had Z2, Z5 and XZP which was my last sony. It is possible to get new ones but too expensive and no contract via operators. :(

The Z serirs was popular in the UK too, loved my Z2. Their tablets at the time were great too.

Exactly, he didn't even talk about the key features of this phone: 30 fps continuous burst with 120 fps exposure calculation and auto focus. Not to mention 4K 120 FPS recording. Which other phone does this?

And that is why there should still be two apps, one "pro" app for photographers, and one "auto" app for the average user(/reviewer).

Software wise the biggest issue is them dropping support for great features. Album app: gone Themes: gone 1 hand mode: gone and replaced by unusable Google version ...

I went through 3 years with XZ Premium without ANY problems until I dropped it from a 10ft ladder and no one could replace the screen… really miss it honestly.

Wat

​@@NaNoRarh yeah for some reason their least mass produced products have the highest quality control, I guess they don't respect the gaming generation too much

forget about owning a sony phone longer than 3ish years their update policy is bottom barrel garbage compared to most other phonemakers

Here come play station and xperia have alot of problem

only nerd people get android. people that actually have girls only have iPhones

What?? When did they do that?

@@muazqamar I think it was in the z2/z3 era in europe

@@GustavosStuff You're right. They did that twice. Between Z2 and Z3, and Z3 and Z3+. But also, this was 10 years ago

That is the pro version with 1 inch sensor, that's 1800 and above.