How Does the New Toyota 4RUNNER Stack Up to the New Land Cruiser?

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@golfbuddy1969
@golfbuddy1969 Місяць тому
I sure hope the new 4Runner looks better than these pics…it shouldn’t look like a crossover, but an SUV.
@roberthoyt7921
@roberthoyt7921 Місяць тому
While it would get the same powertrain as the Tacoma, the next 4Runner may instead be mostly related to the bigger Land Cruiser 250 though hints of both the new Tacoma and the TNGA-F-based next-gen Hilux for the rest of the world. Kiss both the Fortuner/SW4 as well as the IMV platform itself goodbye.
@micahhuge1474
@micahhuge1474 Місяць тому
that first photo looks nice!!
@arkabasak5399
@arkabasak5399 25 днів тому
thoughts on the 4runner now that it has come out?
@golfbuddy1969
@golfbuddy1969 25 днів тому
@@arkabasak5399 I like it overall. A good step forward. I do wish it had a v6 hybrid option though.
@jesusdontlikethatimgaybuts9493
@jesusdontlikethatimgaybuts9493 21 день тому
@@roberthoyt7921is IMV platform confirmed to be replaced?
@frankburch5104
@frankburch5104 Місяць тому
If the Toyota dealer price gouging sticks around, the GX-550 Overtrail is going to be the best value by far. Most of the Lexus dealers in my area are selling at MSRP. If you purchase the Land Cruiser, and pay the premium, you can easily reach the base price of the GX and you will never recover that extra cost in resale. The GX also offers a bigger engine, nicer interior, bigger screen, bigger tires, eKDSS and Lexus is number 1 in the new J.D. Power 2024 U.S. Vehicle Dependability Study. I put down a deposit for the GX 550 very early on and my dealer says that I should be able to take possession by late May or early June. In my opinion I'm getting a better vehicle and a better value than the Toyota offerings.
@outbackeddie
@outbackeddie Місяць тому
Plus you can act all snooty when you park it next to vehicles the riff-raff tend to buy.
@KaptKevin
@KaptKevin Місяць тому
I think “at MSRP” is relatively high right now. I agree with your take.
@jasoncrymes9608
@jasoncrymes9608 Місяць тому
I agree. For the difference in price between the Cruiser and the GX, The GX is a much better value. Plus it looks badass. Congrats on your purchase. Lexus nailed it with the new GX!
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 Місяць тому
Agree. I thought the 1958 was going to be the hot ticket, but after looking at what it comes with, I would want to step up to the Land Cruiser trim, which is really not that much cheaper than the base Overtrail with the sunroof delete.
@stewartj5325
@stewartj5325 Місяць тому
But if you tell everyone then the price will go up! Then the rest of us who know the truth will have to pay higher rates. Save the hidden gyms!
@House_of_Schmidt
@House_of_Schmidt Місяць тому
Land Cruiser really should have had the V6TT from the GX. Doesn't distinguish itself from the 4runner enough.
@CarnutMM
@CarnutMM Місяць тому
Then why not just get a GX? It’s distinguished because Landcruiser offers 2.4 hybrid turbo standard where 4Runner will be 2.4 turbo with optional 2.4 turbo hybrid.
@House_of_Schmidt
@House_of_Schmidt Місяць тому
@palmero8877 GX is more luxurious. That was always the selling point. Same as the Land Cruiser vs LX. Plenty of people still bought the LX. They didn't have different powertrains.
@miguelestela6681
@miguelestela6681 Місяць тому
Why not both? A 4-cyl T for the base LC and a V6-T for the top-dog version. Toyota should rethink the Sequoia as it seems to be left out in terms of value & competitiveness.
@truthserum5310
@truthserum5310 Місяць тому
@@CarnutMM Landcruiser is not a 2.7, it's a 2.4 Hybrid.
@technom3598
@technom3598 Місяць тому
​@@House_of_Schmidtplenty is a strong word when you consider how few they made
@Alan-ju1ku
@Alan-ju1ku Місяць тому
I hope they keep the roll down rear window. The rear hatch in the renderings looks more angled than the spy shots I've seen.
@Alan-ju1ku
@Alan-ju1ku Місяць тому
Take the Tacoma pricing and add $5K and you're in the ballpark of the new 4Runner pricing. Makes a fully loaded TRD Offroad no hybrid about $60K. There's going to be alot of overlap with Landcruiser pricing once you get into the hybrid and special packages like TRD Pro.
@ConfirmedPatriot
@ConfirmedPatriot Місяць тому
Hoping 🙏🏻 The next Gen Runner will be its own bespoke version not based on the front end styling of the Tacoma. It won’t wow me as much. A removable top like the 80’s version would blow my mind.
@backwoodstherapy
@backwoodstherapy Місяць тому
A removable top and doors to compete directly with the Bronco and Wrangler would be super awesome. Probably won't happen but a man can dream.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Місяць тому
Definitely not happening any time soon. They've already confirmed it's a Tacoma wagon. It's less distinguished from the Tacoma than the old one is.
@Moon222
@Moon222 Місяць тому
@@backwoodstherapy The noise and bad weather insulation tho
@backwoodstherapy
@backwoodstherapy Місяць тому
@@Moon222 I have a Jeep JLU soft top on 35s and it's not bad. I can drive on the freeway and talk at a normal volume with my wife and understand her fine. And I have gone to work at 6 am in single degree weather and the cabin is warm within ten minutes. It'll never be as quiet or warm as my wife's CX5 with heated seats but it's not as bad as people think.
@kevinheltsley4953
@kevinheltsley4953 Місяць тому
It would blow your hair too...
@pzadach
@pzadach Місяць тому
I saw a 2024 Land Cruiser advertised at a local dealer for $85k. This was not the First Edition.
@cmdrls212
@cmdrls212 Місяць тому
Wow. Dealers are cancer
@gilbertferguson1685
@gilbertferguson1685 Місяць тому
Probably had a dealer mark up, oh wait it’s a market adjustment. 🤣
@acousticriff7579
@acousticriff7579 Місяць тому
where bouts? haven't seen any non-first editions in US of late
@Blackpanther_risen
@Blackpanther_risen Місяць тому
Just get a GX over that underpowered LC
@ConsoleCombat
@ConsoleCombat Місяць тому
Please dear lord don’t make the 4Runner look like those mockups.
@sergiojara1734
@sergiojara1734 Місяць тому
Picture a tacoma with a camper on it...that's probably what it would end up looking like
@Alan-ju1ku
@Alan-ju1ku Місяць тому
Agree that looks like a baby Sequoia, I want something different.
@cargueone1971
@cargueone1971 Місяць тому
Toyota isn't that original. The mock ups will probably look better. Also the new 4Runner won't be made in Japan. It'll be built along with the Tacoma, and will share most components
@ConsoleCombat
@ConsoleCombat Місяць тому
@@cargueone1971where did you see that 4Runner will be build in Mexico?
@darko5139
@darko5139 Місяць тому
@@sergiojara1734 or Sequoia on diet. it will be ugly
@shoveI
@shoveI Місяць тому
The new landcruiser is the first brand new car I've been actually interested in buying in (much) more than a decade. I know a lot of people are hurt about the 4cyl hybrid but that sounds great to me. I love the honest simplicity of the 1958 model's interior.
@aerynlovell4754
@aerynlovell4754 Місяць тому
Tommy was right about putting 33 inch tires on the 2024 Tacoma at stock ride height. Falken Tires and DV8 Offroad made a video where they installed Falken Wildpeak A/T4W 285/70R17 tires with an Overall Diameter of 32.8 inches.
@lane5686
@lane5686 Місяць тому
I’ll take the 4Runner in a heartbeat for that naturally aspirated V6 that is well known to be bulletproof. Old but gold
@gdub350
@gdub350 Місяць тому
Hah, you think they’re keeping that? Enjoy the turbo 4 cylinder.
@mtfishingwizard
@mtfishingwizard Місяць тому
Thank you for repeating everything everyone else says. How original. Most people say that when that can't afford it.
@andyleo8418
@andyleo8418 Місяць тому
5-speed trans is terrible. You're paying top dollar for ancient equipment.
@ricksmith7659
@ricksmith7659 Місяць тому
​@@andyleo8418 your paying top dollar for the reliability. Those 5 speed transmissions don't break
@lazynow1
@lazynow1 Місяць тому
@@gdub350 turbo 4 cylinder-------pure junk....
@ejesoriginal
@ejesoriginal Місяць тому
Pretty disappointing ground clearance on the LC.
@marcochavanne
@marcochavanne Місяць тому
No 3rd row option either.
@AA-mb4fc
@AA-mb4fc Місяць тому
The LC 55 60 80 100 200 300 are the "Real" heavy duty Land cruisers, weird that experts like you put them in one category with the toyota light-duty Prado/Retro FJ j70 LC 70 90 120 150 250 class vehicles
@man8god
@man8god Місяць тому
yeah this new one is a Prado - like a landruiser ‘lite’. not even the proper land cruiser. stop saying the price has dropped. this is just the new prado
@AA-mb4fc
@AA-mb4fc Місяць тому
@@man8god i would call it a 4 door FJ
@Echo22WC
@Echo22WC Місяць тому
​@@AA-mb4fc fj is still going to be announced. The "heavy duty" ones are gone because no one wants a 100k offroad minivan anymore.
@manoloprpr
@manoloprpr Місяць тому
Subjective opinion. So by this logic, only the US got the “real Land Cruiser”? What about the LC150 with solid axle, the 70/79 that is used in remote locations due to the harsh conditions? A FJ40 is a real Land Cruiser. Otherwise ICON and others wouldn’t be making $250k resto mods.Again an opinion.
@AA-mb4fc
@AA-mb4fc Місяць тому
@@manoloprpr i was highlighting the words of introducing the Prado/LC250 as " The Land cruiser continuation in NA, otherwise in other regions the LC300 is, and the LC250 is the new Prado, we know that the LC200 was close in price as the LX500 NA market because it was fully equipped and they had had hard time selling them
@RonnN-gf8tm
@RonnN-gf8tm Місяць тому
I like how they offer round n square headlights on the Land cruiser I'd go with the square lights...thanks Roman n Tommy
@ReddOchober
@ReddOchober Місяць тому
Glad I got a 2023 dino. It may sound weird, but I like to buy my timing at a time the current gen is going out but factory tooling isn’t at end of life.
@charlesclayton643
@charlesclayton643 Місяць тому
Do you think 35's would fit on a GX 550 without rubbing or any cutting needed?
@paul_t_kendall
@paul_t_kendall Місяць тому
If you own a current 4runner hang onto it and if you don't have one hurry fast. I can see these last 2024 4runners fetching a pretty penny the next few years. Current trd pro 4runners are 58kish the new ones will be mid 60s-easy.
@nathandmello2646
@nathandmello2646 Місяць тому
I really like the SR5 idea. for my purposes on forestry trails i think the SR5 would preform just fine. but a rear locker would be awesome.
@Echo22WC
@Echo22WC Місяць тому
Holding out from both for the 106" wheelbase, full framed, 30k LCFJ 😉
@Shakshuka69
@Shakshuka69 Місяць тому
45k base price I reckon
@davedixon2167
@davedixon2167 Місяць тому
I was all about getting the '58 trim LC until I went to configure it and you can only get three solid colors. I want the 58 trim with the blue and grey two-tone paint. I can't wait to see the actual next 4R though.
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 Місяць тому
Same. So when you step up to the next level in order to get an actual color, now it's not that much cheaper than the base GX Overtrail.
@jerryfernandez8881
@jerryfernandez8881 Місяць тому
Ive ordered my Land Cruiser already, what size tire do you think will fit on a stock Land Cruiser? 285/70/18? first thing I'm doing is buying new shoes
@gilbertferguson1685
@gilbertferguson1685 Місяць тому
Can’t wait for you to compare the Land Cruiser, Grenadier and the 4 Runner. That would be a great video. Thanks.
@peterbullen3347
@peterbullen3347 Місяць тому
I enjoy your reviews, well done, ever thought of looking at overseas specs in your reviews? Are the US specs better that other regions? Better in performance on and off road? More bling? More comfort? I'm sure a little time on websites will give you the figures.... Just a thought
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Місяць тому
Roman & Tommy, The biggest question in the Toyota 4X4 world today concerns their smallest 4X4: the upcoming Land Cruiser FJ. Will we or won't we get the affordable Land Cruiser FJ in the USA and Canada?🤔
@AllenKrughoff
@AllenKrughoff Місяць тому
I think the 4Runner is going to fill that bucket in the US - it would make sense from price positioning, no?
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Місяць тому
@@AllenKrughoffPeople may or may not remember that the FJ Cruiser came to market nearly 20 years ago as a cheaper alternative to the 4Runner. The question today is whether we will have a genuine, body-on-frame Toyota 4X4 that is priced like the base Wrangler and Bronco. At this point we don't even know if the new FJ has been engineered to meet North American standards or whether it will stay in secondary markets. We should find out by summer.
@joeschlepp
@joeschlepp Місяць тому
I believe they're made in Indonesia on a different frame than what is currently being used for the North American market and as such doesn't meet our safety standards so it is unlikely that we will see them here.
@blackwatch7151
@blackwatch7151 Місяць тому
I agree, it's going to be built on that $10,000 Toyota truck they are selling which won't pass crash tests here. It will also coming with the 2.7 old 4cyl@@joeschlepp
@dcman4902
@dcman4902 25 днів тому
Affordable? I don’t think any of them are affordable lol.
@dorognet
@dorognet Місяць тому
You compare LC 200 and LC Prado. It is 2 different cars that exist at other markets
@roberthoyt7921
@roberthoyt7921 Місяць тому
I think Toyota should consider scrapping the Prado moniker from the upcoming Lexus GX-based Land Cruiser 250 worldwide.
@salmattgado
@salmattgado Місяць тому
Love this video!
@danielrider7616
@danielrider7616 Місяць тому
The 3rd row option on 4R will be enough to separate the 2 models from a "customer must have" prospective. As for model lineup, Tommy is right on point.....it will closely mimic the Tacoma. I would bet the hybrid powertrain will be an option on SR5 Premium, and standard on Limited & TRD Pro. The big question for me is if the manual will be available like on the Tacoma. IMO pricing of Limited & TRD Pro will overlap the low end trims of the LC.
@WOWDOWN
@WOWDOWN Місяць тому
The render at 8:00 in the dark red color looks really nice, especially with those wheels. Definitely looking like a baby 3rd gen sequoia, but I like it. I’m biased to red Toyota suvs. I have an 06 sequoia in salsa red pearl which I love for over landing, so much space. I don’t expect it to happen but it would be awesome to see a two door 4Runner to compete with the 2 door bronco and jeep. The shorter wheelbase would be really attractive to the off-road crowd. I also think the two door versions of the bronco and keep look way cooler.
@Alex-uz7wd
@Alex-uz7wd Місяць тому
I want Toyota to offer the premium powertrain such as hybrid, locker and trd option on the lower basic trims.
@sugarplumflyjelly
@sugarplumflyjelly Місяць тому
LC 250 and 200 are very similar in size. They have the same cargo volume of 82 ft. cu.
@guentherwilke2055
@guentherwilke2055 Місяць тому
Well, trim for trim, the 23 4R is about $4000 more than the 23 Tacoma. I’d expect that to continue. That means about $44,500 to start, $47k for an OR.
@guentherwilke2055
@guentherwilke2055 Місяць тому
Landcruiser cachet- people didn’t buy Landcruisers for cachet. People bought them because they’re quietly understated. At this lower price point, it will be even less about chachet
@jlaw1901
@jlaw1901 Місяць тому
When do you guys get to drive the hybrid Tacomas??
@ffl2609
@ffl2609 Місяць тому
Toyota has no reason to rush to next gen 4Runner. Current version is still selling well. Why compete with LC just as it is coming out.
@jgm113
@jgm113 Місяць тому
4runner and FJ cruiser existed at the same time before. FJ being related to the Prado. FJ had better approach and departure angles, slightly more ground clearance. 4runner had better turning radius yet being 5 inches longer. Main difference was the suicide doors on the FJ. I think the 4runner will be the smaller more off road one this time around but they need to do something to differentiate the two.
@europeanlegend9347
@europeanlegend9347 Місяць тому
I think the biggest differentiator between the two will come down to aesthetics and what people personally prefer in looks and styling. The 4 runner is boxy, like the land cruiser. But, still has that more "modern" aesthetic with the curvier edges. Where as the new Land Cruiser goes back to looking more retro than the current Land Cruiser Prado.
@Shakshuka69
@Shakshuka69 Місяць тому
The new Prado and the FJ aren't comparable to me because the FJ has so much more character. The retro design, the vertical windshield and triple wipers, the 2.5 door body, the 6 speed manual, etc. distinguished it enough from the 4runner. The new Prado is just another (slightly smaller?) 4runner.
@jgm113
@jgm113 Місяць тому
@@Shakshuka69 square mirrors tho!
@Shakshuka69
@Shakshuka69 Місяць тому
@@jgm113 lol there is that
@skyhawk5469
@skyhawk5469 Місяць тому
Im glad i own 2 of the best a 21 Land Cruiser and a 22 4runner trd pro both bought new, and both black on black.
@mrkkiani
@mrkkiani Місяць тому
Wonder if a Prime version of either of these will happen at some point
@DRose2Fast
@DRose2Fast Місяць тому
The 4runner needs to be its own platform, its own thing.
@backwoodstherapy
@backwoodstherapy Місяць тому
Likely won't happen. Much cheaper for Toyota to have one platform - frame, engine, transmission - and then work around that to build something.
@Inferno45
@Inferno45 Місяць тому
Its always just been an suv version of the tacoma. It doesn’t make sense from a business perspective to rebuild it from the ground up. Chevy does the same with the silverado and tahoe/ suburban.
@cmdrls212
@cmdrls212 Місяць тому
It would cost way more. Economies of scale.
@backwoodstherapy
@backwoodstherapy Місяць тому
@@Inferno45 Ford does it at well. Escape, Bronco Sport, and Maverick are all built on the same platform, all wildly different vehicles. By sharing one platform, but offering different vehicles on it, they save buckets of money on development costs while still being able to offer a distinct experience for each vehicle.
@justinclark6586
@justinclark6586 Місяць тому
Owner of an FZJ80 (lifted on 35s and “restored”) and a GX470 mildly lifted on 33s here. As much as I love the looks of the new LC, my money is on the GX550 Overtrail as a replacement for the 470 - but I’m planning to wait until Lexus announces their hybrid drivetrain. Heck, I’ve got another decade before the 470 actually needs to be replaced so I can wait! 😂
@levicharles996
@levicharles996 Місяць тому
Well regardless of pricing. What incentives is Toyota going to offer to its dealerships to help alleviate the sticker shock. Either with manufacturer incentives to some low interest programs.
@providentpathfinders219
@providentpathfinders219 Місяць тому
i’d take 5 years worth of oil changes😂
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 Місяць тому
Probably nothing, these are going to be super popular.
@kevinstenger9758
@kevinstenger9758 Місяць тому
Just because the old LC was 80-100k does not mean a new 55k version is affordable!! That just hammers home how ridiculously expensive the old one was. If you're being financially responsible, a lot of people cannot afford more than 40k. Sure, you may qualify for 60k, but that's probably not a good idea! Lol
@Quincyq15
@Quincyq15 Місяць тому
Best ever suvs made imo
@chriswagner9573
@chriswagner9573 Місяць тому
Dear Toyota: What the people really want is the 1958 LC with the V6, but bare bones for rock crawling /over-landing for about $60kish. The GX money is too much, and not everyone wants a leather interior. Bring back a utilitarian FJ style interior and i’ll trade in my 5th gen
@Ultiman7
@Ultiman7 Місяць тому
I'm less interested in the full "off-road" aspect of the Land Cruiser, but more into the size and towing capacity. Finding a non-suburban-sized SUV that can pull 6-8k pounds is a bit of a challenge. Think about it as a solid car camping vehicle that is mostly used as a daily. Maybe in a few years when the new Land Cruiser hits the used market (or the GX550) I'll snag one - most recently I grabbed a used Audi Q7 for all of the reasons noted above.
@dbunch904
@dbunch904 Місяць тому
If you get an TRD OR with any kind of decent package on it it’s gonna be easily around 60K or even more. You see it with the Tacomas. While the base price may not be horrible, some of the packages add upwards of 8K to the price. The new TRD OR will be last gen’s TRD Pro.
@Michael-ur5qb
@Michael-ur5qb Місяць тому
It’ll be interesting to see what the 4runner looks like. I think the LC should have been the removable top off roader to go head to head with Wrangler and Bronco. I tend to agree with Roman that overlap maybe a lot.
@atmartens
@atmartens Місяць тому
I have no idea what to expect. What I hope is they’d bring back something to compete against the Bronco and Wrangler.
@Tequilero_991
@Tequilero_991 Місяць тому
They are coming out with a Land Cruiser and a new 4Runner? Pretty cool. Hope they do something like make the 4runner start at 35k base or a cheaper trim like that or something
@51KTM51Hurricane
@51KTM51Hurricane Місяць тому
We need the roof weight load capacity. That is important for us Overlander 🙏🏾
@nickhoffmeier4817
@nickhoffmeier4817 Місяць тому
I think the removable top will be a reality on this. I would bet Toyota looked at Wrangler and Bronco, said “hold my beer” and we will be very happy with the result. There would be no point to have two identical suvs.
@yetichris
@yetichris Місяць тому
The Ineos Grenadier was built as an alternative to the Defender when are you going to do an off road comparison between the Grenadier and new Defender?
@RJ-vc2ju
@RJ-vc2ju Місяць тому
Tommy, the person you had dinner with and was upset about the Prado being passed off as a Land Cruiser (as a stand alone name) is a very wise person. No-one outside NA will ever mistake the new Prado for a "Land Cruiser". Toyota has actually put itself in a very awkward position (globally) due to its complete miss with the LC300 not being anywhere near the successor to the LC200, and other than the 70 series (which catastrophically is not available in NA), doesn't really have a standard-bearer for the iconic and legendary heritage of the Land Cruiser name. Going to be an interesting space to watch for sure. Here's to hoping that the new global Nissan Patrol stays true to name and function...
@TnFJ62
@TnFJ62 Місяць тому
I usually like and appreciate your take on things, but I think you all totally missed the point on this one. Having owned and maintained several Land Cruisers, 4 runners, tacomas and pickups, I don't think you distinguished what a Land Cruiser is and why it is special. It's not about capability or looks, yes it is different that way, but it's about their sheer reliability and simplicity. To me it seemed that you were more focused on looks and gimmicks of the new ones rather than what the brand was built on. All of these vehicles are a huge departure from what made them popular. And why we are seeing companies like Ineos popping up and having success.
@StevenHartono
@StevenHartono Місяць тому
between the highlander, grand highlander, 4runner, land cruiser and sequoia... toyota is really oversaturating their mid/fullsize suv offerings. especially when you consider all the trim levels of each model. shouldve made the sequoia the full size unibody, (in lieu of adding grand highlander), and kept the land cruiser, as its most luxurious 4x4 body on frame offering. i think that would help the 4runner differentiate itself more from the other offerings.
@justinboucher5923
@justinboucher5923 Місяць тому
If the 4runner pushes into the 60's, having built the LC online it can go 70k pretty quick, the GX is going to be almost impossible to get simply due to people doing the math. They already sold out year one production on the GX.
@kenkibunja
@kenkibunja Місяць тому
For us the African market along with the Asian and Australian market, is a huge upgrade for it replaces the old Land Cruiser PRADO ...... and we still have the Land Cruiser 300.
@backwoodstherapy
@backwoodstherapy Місяць тому
Probably wont happen, but would love to see the 4Runner move more towards a direct competitor to the Bronco/Wrangler since a decent amount of people cross shop all three. Removable top, maybe even removable doors would be amazing. I seriously doubt it, but a man can dream.
@christianmcvay8258
@christianmcvay8258 Місяць тому
I agree, but with as many soccer moms buying the limited trim I doubt they want to depart from the current formula. Toyota needs a new FJ to fill that void 🤙🏼
@backwoodstherapy
@backwoodstherapy Місяць тому
@@christianmcvay8258 I think we're supposed to be getting a new FJ built on a shortened Land Cruiser platform soon. We'll see.
@teotwawki00
@teotwawki00 Місяць тому
I have a 2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Hardtop with a 3½ lift, but I've been thinking about a 4Runner. I want a little bit older one. 2018-2019 with the good old V6. There are a lot of them in Florida that are just Soccer mom SUVs with low mileage. I love basic, naturally aspirated, dependable, strong vehicles with 5-6 speed transmissions. The more complicated, the smaller the motor, the more speeds the worse. Too much tech is NOT a good thing. IMO... Thanks gang.
@Jeff-ib7wc
@Jeff-ib7wc Місяць тому
2020 is the first model year with Apple CarPlay. You’ll want that. Lets you control Apps from the vehicle’s in dash touchscreen , music and gps but also OnX Offroad and Gaia
@blakebullington1225
@blakebullington1225 Місяць тому
2022+ has the blind spot monitors.
@milosfedor5038
@milosfedor5038 Місяць тому
Hey guys, have you ever ridden Toyota J150 (Prado)? I think that is enough. I have 2012 with 3.0 turbo diesel and it will go anywhere just as it is with just better tires. No, it's not 200 or even 300 but it does amazing job driving it. My has torsen central dif, so it's permanent 4x4, you lock that centre dif, I have rear differential with locking and I have crawl control and of course LO range... It's 5 speed automatic and it's amazing vehicle... So, this one new 250 is amazing vehicle...
@Veritas0589
@Veritas0589 Місяць тому
Thank you for not recording in 24p 👍
@mva6044
@mva6044 Місяць тому
Key question: Will the next gen 4Runner offer some trims with a 3rd row?
@Performance_Motorsports
@Performance_Motorsports Місяць тому
Well executed R&T!
@omarperdomo1482
@omarperdomo1482 Місяць тому
Land Cruiser prado and 4Runner have always coexisted together even having the same engine 3.4 V6 for example. Even both having manual transmission options too. The difference is the prado have been always a bit higher and bigger and more off road worthy. New Land Cruiser and new 4Runner might have same engine again but 4Runner will have softer look.
@davidl929
@davidl929 Місяць тому
The 4 runner has always cost more than the tacoma. If the Trd Pro and Trailhunter Tacoma costs around $60k, then the 4runner will be around $65k
@jasonritchey8610
@jasonritchey8610 Місяць тому
I have also heard through a good source that the new TRD Pro 4Runner will be priced around $64,500.
@sodathief
@sodathief Місяць тому
How does Tommy make these mockups?
@rceric1
@rceric1 Місяць тому
AI
@mholmes9262
@mholmes9262 Місяць тому
I'm so glad to see Toyota making exciting cars again. Not since the 90's have they had such a great lineup. There are a few misses here and there but for the most part, they seem to be getting their mojo back.
@joeytakach7131
@joeytakach7131 Місяць тому
5th generation 4Runner has a slow 4.0 V6 with a outdated 5speed transmission. It’s slow and sluggish specially going up on a mountain and you can hear the transmission working hard. All that said I would 100% recommend the 5th generation over this new 6th generation with out any hesitation. It’s a proven bulletproof suv/truck.
@HSwest1
@HSwest1 Місяць тому
35’s with leveling kit. 88rotors did it on the Tacoma.
@lorenzosorice
@lorenzosorice Місяць тому
I love those new rendering of the 4runner. A mini Sequoia. But I'm not quite sure why it starts SO much higher than a Tacoma...that's the let down. Starting at 45k...eh...
@spartanchirho
@spartanchirho Місяць тому
Cant wait for the 58!!!!!
@rsereday
@rsereday Місяць тому
putting all of these four wheeler buttons on the center consoles is a SUPER IDIOTIC trend. My girlfriends Highlander has a few buttons like hill decent and or snow mode buttons, and that is where, like most women, she puts her purse and about anything else she brings into her car, right on top of all the buttons and she is always asking me, "why are all these yellow warning lights on my dash lit up for".
@jwalesoutlaw3294
@jwalesoutlaw3294 Місяць тому
Lol....sounds like your GF needs some discipline. Be firm but fair
@rsereday
@rsereday Місяць тому
​@@jwalesoutlaw3294 you missed the whole point so...... suckle me weenar
@SJAYGAMES
@SJAYGAMES Місяць тому
I don’t care what comes out I’m buying it and I’m gonna be happy. I’m so excited for the new 4runner generation!
@nknasi
@nknasi Місяць тому
Will the new LC be built with the same extra-robust build quality designed to last a 25 year service life as previous LC models were? Or built more like all other Toyotas which, while still better than most OEMs, were still a step below the LC?
@BeachBow
@BeachBow 28 днів тому
I had the original 4Runner with the removable back. Took it off once and never got it to seal water tight again. Great concept, but a complete failure in execution. But I do love my 4Runners. Got a 2022 Off Road now. And at my age, it'll probably be my last.
@origamihawk
@origamihawk Місяць тому
I imagine the new land cruiser (can we agree to call it a prado?) will slot in where the old 4runner limited was, we'll see how much they step on each other's toes based on the trim levels that are made available.
@stig120212
@stig120212 Місяць тому
nice and great converstation, thanks for keeping it real!!
@joshgonzalez2112
@joshgonzalez2112 Місяць тому
Land Cruiser if the 4Runner looks like that. But for LC money might as well get the GX.
@richardwray8478
@richardwray8478 Місяць тому
Share the Tacoma drive train and other features? Oh great! The grille shutter problems and that front differential failure are shared as well? No thanks! Reliability is most important, and will be staying with the 5th generation with V6.
@nicholasdupre6916
@nicholasdupre6916 Місяць тому
Current LOW price on a 2024 Terra TRD pro 4Runner is $62k. Those dealer markups on the 2025 Pro are going to be painful to see and worse for the TrailHunter trim if Toyota carries it over from Tacoma to slot above the Pro.
@stonepa
@stonepa Місяць тому
Having sat in the GX550 and the Land Cruiser 250 i am absolutely convinced that I will buy a used Lexus LX600 when I have to replace my Land Cruiser 200. That dash with the giant screen is hideous.
@FeralPlumber
@FeralPlumber Місяць тому
4Runner will probably go with that same 4 banger turbo motor too.......a smart person would offer both the V6TT or the 4T in the new Runner.......
@johnsierramusic
@johnsierramusic Місяць тому
If the 4runner took hints from the new GX, I'd love it. I'd def like more masculine designs than what was shown here. Thanks for honest reporting - I keep checking everyday to see if Toyota's announced! (still holding out for the removable top LOL)>.
@roberthoyt7921
@roberthoyt7921 Місяць тому
I think Toyota might consider demoting the 4Runner to compact BoF SUV status to avoid overlapping with the new Land Cruiser 250.
@brucephilp3950
@brucephilp3950 Місяць тому
Guys... the 4Runner and Tacoma are absolutely unrelated vehicles. Other than sharing an engine during a single generation overlap, there is no connection (and they have never been on related release schedules). 4Runner has a box steel frame, Tacoma had a C channel frame. The old Tacoma had leaf springs, the 4Runner is multilink. The old Taco had drums out back, the 4Runner discs. And on and on. The 5th gen 4Runner is a Prado derivative. This will be the first time 4Runners are derived from Tacomas.
@devildog5354
@devildog5354 Місяць тому
That black front end on the base LC with the round headlights just looks unfinished in my opinion..
@astralzombie
@astralzombie Місяць тому
I still think the 4Runner should have the same v6 as the GX to differentiate it from the Land Cruiser, it just doesn’t make sense to have two vehicles that are essentially the same size with a similar power plant at roughly around the same pricing range (let’s be honest here, a TRD Pro 4Runner will be at least $60k)…it just seems redundant for a sales vantage point.
@martinmoraga8133
@martinmoraga8133 Місяць тому
A v6tt in a 4 runner sounds awesome, but most likely not happening. And a trd pro maybe more like 70k if the sequioa is going for about 90
@brettv576
@brettv576 Місяць тому
I really hope that Toyota makes a 3 row version in the trd offroad model. There are really no good smaller 3 row off capable SUVs.
@danielrider7616
@danielrider7616 Місяць тому
I believe the current gen offers 3rd row option in SR5/SR5 Premium 4WD. A few items are different or missing over the TRD Off-Road, but it is still a VERY capable rig off-road. Once you figure out how to manipulate the A-TRAC system with throttle input, a locker isn't really needed. And most folks with either trim who frequently wheel have a winch anyway. Which is way cheaper than aftermarket locker.
@krane15
@krane15 Місяць тому
I think its one thing to buy a car that you use as a toy on weekends and holidays, and something totally different for a single jack-of-all-trades vehicle. A single car owner would get the Land Cruiser because it comes with more creature comforts yet can play in the dirt if you need it to. Two (or more) car families, will benefit better from getting the cheaper and more basic trimmed 4Runner, just for that long weekend off-road excursion for entertainment purposes only.
@stanleyblazeraznik6047
@stanleyblazeraznik6047 Місяць тому
Wish I could get a LC or an LX at this point. Nothing arriving at the dealer and I hear markups are going to be ridiculous. My F-150 lease is up in August so I may just lease a Tacoma TRD off road or a GMC Canyon AT4X. I would love a new 4Runner but I can’t wait until 2025.
@exparrot9074
@exparrot9074 Місяць тому
I love the new LC, but the fact that it requires 91 octane is a big let down. For the money, and with similar operating costs, the Lexus GX550 is the better value, with a nicer interior, 50% more towing capacity, and an available third row.
@paulneil7321
@paulneil7321 Місяць тому
Motormouth channel said they got invitation from Toyota for 4Runner release and they believe that it will be only available in hybrid.
@johnwebb2232
@johnwebb2232 Місяць тому
Judging from those pictures, the 4runner looks more like the high lander or a station wagon, most definitely not doing it for me. I will probably keep my 2016 4runner trail edition since she's given no problems, still looks new, and serves me all my overlandding needs. Love my 5th gen.
@AbdullaDhanahani
@AbdullaDhanahani Місяць тому
This is the prado i dont know why they named it Land Cruiser
@charliecharlie9787
@charliecharlie9787 Місяць тому
2024 vs 2025 , 13:38 4 runner bed space i hope there the same to sleep in the back with rear seats out .
@reignonme6547
@reignonme6547 Місяць тому
A little surprised that US doesn’t get the 300 series like we do in Aus…
@scottanson7520
@scottanson7520 Місяць тому
Pricing is crazy I like Lowe prices b
@jaisonswantek8853
@jaisonswantek8853 Місяць тому
Don't much care for the new coming Land Cruiser, but totally agree with you that it would be awesome if the next 4runner brought it to Bronco and Jeep with a removable top. I'm really hoping they don't miss the mark like it kind of feels they have with the Tundra, Sequoia and Tacoma. I am interested in the next gen 4runner, especially if they knock it out of the park... and don't get even more ridiculous on the price of course
@jordanlawlor365
@jordanlawlor365 26 днів тому
I wish you guys would emphasis that this is a Prado, not the Land Cruiser wagon. You can’t compare it to the 200 series. It’s to be compared to the GX only for the US market. Comparing the light duty Land Cruiser to the station wagon or the heavy duty isn’t a fair comparison. Especially when there are so many who rely on your videos and take what you say as the final word…
@IWH8023
@IWH8023 Місяць тому
Al I care is that they keep the rear window in the 4runner.
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix Місяць тому
Somehow I doubt they will. They did away with it on the sequoia which really disappointed me. Toyota really isn't listening to their customers and the don't seem to care anymore. Their quakity and reliability are falling off pretty badly.
@michaelfoulkes9502
@michaelfoulkes9502 Місяць тому
They are keeping it!
@peterbullen3347
@peterbullen3347 Місяць тому
Did you know that Australia has just started offering Tacoma? Not sure how that are selling.
@dannypinyan3949
@dannypinyan3949 Місяць тому
Didn't your transmission over Heat? Or come very close to it. Kind of look weak to me.
@ljmorris6496
@ljmorris6496 Місяць тому
No no, the front differential was destroyed in an parking lot curb 😅..
@dannypinyan3949
@dannypinyan3949 Місяць тому
The transmission got hot On the 24 Pulling the trailer with the small truck up the hill correct.
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 Місяць тому
They kept going on and on about how steep the hill was and how they were running out of speed, yet they refused to put it in four low.
@dannypinyan3949
@dannypinyan3949 Місяць тому
@trailrunnah8886 Bottom line. it was a new truck and it broke.
@trailrunnah8886
@trailrunnah8886 Місяць тому
@@dannypinyan3949 The fact that it broke while doing mild off roading is a lot more concerning to me than the transmission thing.
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