Very nice 👏👏👏

@TravelerPat The singer's Mandarin is almost perfect. If I didn't know he's Thai first I would think he's a Chinese with a LITTLE bit of south accent, telling from a few non-standard "zh" "ch" "sh" and "r".

@John Fischer The racist aspect comes from Marvel's depiction of a character called Fu Manchu.

Completely agree! But I’m not sure how celebrities are relatable!

Celebrities are "relatable" haha

That's not true

Agreed, I think my spanish is similar. I grew up speaking it but my academic and professional life has been entirely in English, so if I don't wanna look bad i might use a translator to make sure 😂

So... kinda like all of use that speak more than 2 languages because we were born in a foreign country and were raised in North American :P

Make sense, he migrated to Canada at the age of 5. Any Chinese language influence he had before that in Harbin, China would have been simple at best

I totally agree, he sounds indistinguishable from someone who grew up in China and his grammar is fine, but the vocabulary and specific sentence construction give it away. Still impressive that his pronunciation is so good though, that's hard to achieve!

Yes!!! All of this!! I was surprised to see that in the comments too and had the same thoughts you've just listed out. Well said and agreed!!!

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As Oversea Chinese from South East Asia I agree with you. Oversea Chinese have different historical background that our Mainlander counterpart don't usually understand. The only Oversea Chinese that can speak perfect Mandarin are Malaysian Chinese but in the cost for being bad Malay speaker. Singaporean Chinese now start to lost their Mandarin proficiency thanks to heavy use of Singlish in daily life.

Yes I agree with your observation. The only relatable scene was when we meet Katy grandma and Tony Leung. Other than that, it's Hollywood version of Asian culture.

@@guitarisfood Not...Really. It's actually really close to the Asian American experience.

100% agree, I was always jokingly called a twinkie/banana/school bus by friends for being yellow on the putside and white on the inside 😅 My parents are Vietnamese immigrants but I was born here and thus spoke English fluently/grew up with American culture, but brought my Asian food for lunch throughout all grade school. So White friends thought I was so Asian while Asian friends thought I was so White lol

As a korean living in europe, i also felt it was really realistic..

@Pat Lance Simu Liu doesn't even look Han Chinese, he looks Mongol and Manchu influenced. He looks weird wearing Hanfu

@Pat Lance that was 7 years ago. 7 years is a lotta time for a change in outlook.

@Pat Lance 7 years ago

@Pat Lance quiet u clown

@@oliviaolivia3326 racist

That's kind of a double entendre, because on the surface level it sounds like he means ABC like the alphabet, to refer to English, but he's really saying "I speak American Born Chinese" Also, that was Ronny Chieng, I've been watching him on The Daily Show for years, he's hilarious. I love the one where he went to New York Chinatown to ask people what they thought of a guy from Fox News who went there and did a really racist segment.

@@PenneySounds Yeah I've seen a lot of folks not get the joke

too bad no one in china can even watch this movie lol.

too bad simu is a piece of sht

@@notstevelam The movie simply doesn't promote the Revolutionary Culture of Socialist China.

Why is respecting fans from China supposed to be heartwarming? I thought that was just decent respect from an actor to fans. No one ever says, "Seeing how this British guy respects his fans from America is so heartwarming" No hate, just kind of confused why you find it heartwarming

@@notstevelam The less you know....

Exactly, I'm learning my native language and love when people correct me. How should I learn otherwise?

I disagree. While it does have progress, Asians stereotyped as martial artists has existed since the dawn of cinema. Not saying that's bad mind you, it's part of our heritage, but it deffo gets stereotyped

@@thecheekychinaman6713 dont want to overstep, but what alternatives would there be? shang chi is an action movie in a superhero universe so it makes sense to use martial arts in it right? its not all they used for combat scenes either

@@jessicawold you'd have to change the source material to avoid this. Again, I don't think it's a bad thing at all, I'm pointing out that this isn't a total win over stereotypes. Stereotyping is a necessity. If you want to see something that is really mould breaking, check out Tony Leung's earlier work.

@@thecheekychinaman6713 I think a good way to put it would be that the movie indulges in some stereotypes it needs to in order to garner a larger general audience (which we want bc that helps with representation), but it puts in the effort to make sure they surpass those stereotypes and to define the characters as more than just a conglomeration of quirks and traits that western pop culture has deemed 'Asian' and instead treat these characters like normal characters any other Hollywood blockbuster film would.

@@AndrewDeng that's a pretty good conclusion, the film does baby steps. The fact that it had Brad Allan choreographing the action made it reminiscent of Jackie Chan's later work, which itself is now a stereotype. On the topic of stereotyping, that's something Jackie Chan has spoken about several times - only being offered action roles, when he'd like to "sing in Mamma mia, kiss the girl" (I quote). That's why work such as Leung's earlier Infernal affairs or In the Mood For Love are so great, the stories are utterly unique, and the genres less concrete.

Thank you! And it's good to know that they've made changes!

so 斌 then lol. It’s my dad’s name ehhehe

@@CoryPchajek no shit sherlock

@@CoryPchajek yeah of course lol

@Pat Lance I don't think either of your conclusions were his intent. He said that sexual preference is genetic, and he believes the belief that pedophiles can be changed through therapy is as misguided & wrong as believing homosexuals can be changed through conversion therapy. His wording and comparison are clumsy (calling both a mutation of a genome, true as it may be, can be taken negatively), but I didn't see malicious intent.

@@fahriandikadir5799 Yeah

Fu Man Chu is also heavily copyrighted, he cannot be used in any other productions. The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen comics even had to omit his name altogether in one of the series because of this. The Mandarin is also a product of the Yellow Peril era (like Radiation Man) but since he's an Iron Man character ,easier to slot into the MCU. Xu Wenwu even said "that's not really my name (The Mandarin)"

Perhaps this is like the CBCs I've bet that still say 你好吗 instead of 你好. :)

Thank you so much for your recommendation, I'll check it out! ❤️

Simu revealed that his parents are both aerospace engineers so he'd definitely had been brought up at least in the middle class, with a high emphasis on his own education. I mean, he ended up having an accountant career, though it was shortlived and he hated it.

whether hua or fa its just a matter of mandarin or cantonese pronunciation theyre both the same word 花

@@aznmochibunny to my knowledge he grew up kinda poor, his parents lived off scholarships and didn’t have much money when raising him. i just remember this from his instagram live he said this, but i’m sure there’s a more detailed explanation out there about his life.

@@suzylunarfairy9964 I'm aware that he grew up with his grandparents until age five but didn't know about that part. I also just saw his post concerning his grandparents, who have now since past and he wrote that his grandma ran away to become a nurse and was highly regarded in her profession, despite them living in a poor apartment. Either way, his family is commendable and he has a very bright future ahead of him.

Thank you, that's really sweet ❤

I was pleasantly surprised. I get annoyed when characters speak English when the setting does not call for it.

@@birdiewolf3497 Dude, 47 Rōnin.

Thank you Amelia! 我会加油哒！

"released to myself" doesn't make sense. Do you mean "relieved about myself"?

@@SalvableRuin you got me!

I agree. Also Wenwu is a representation of what Marvel learned about really good villains. He isn't evil in the heart. He's just broken, and making bad decisions. This is true of other villains like Baron Zemo, and Eric Killmonger. Even Thanos isn't evil, just wrong and insane. Other villains are evil. Like Hela, or Ego, or Red Skull.

@@tarmaque I find it’s good to have a mix of both, I hope they keep it varied and spiced up

Yeah, in the old old comics, Fu Manchu was Shang Chi's father, but this movie had the really great idea to shift it so The Mandarin is his father. The Mandarin was also basically a Fu Manchu style character way back in the day, but the comics radically changed him over time. But these two characters have never been linked before in the comics as far as I know

a long, not "all long"

@@SalvableRuin I double tapped the l sorry.

Fu Manchu was a character created by Sax Rohmer in the early 1900s, and licensed by Marvel in the 1970s for their Master of Kung Fu (Shang-Chi) comic. After Marvel lost the rights to use the Fu Manchu character he was written out of the Shang-Chi continuity and replaced by a new, Marvel-created character, Zheng Zu, who is now Shang-Chi's father in the comics rather than Fu Manchu. In the MCU movie also they made Zheng Zu the real Mandarin. In the comics the Mandarin and Zheng Zu are separate characters.

Thank you Zach, I'l definitely work on that!

Her intonation is so good though, and rhythm and intonation are actually arguably more important in spoken language than pronunciation. It’s why we can enjoy content like Uncle Rogers and understand him just fine.

Thank you! I still take notes when I see new words or slang in movies/TV series/videos, always excited to learn new things and put them into use.

The translations were pretty accurate. The only thing I can nitpick on is how some sentences just sound more... poetic, or have more UMPH in Mandarin. One example I can think of is when Tony Leong was talking to the elder villager. I think in English they translated it as , "Quiet young man, I am thousands of years older than you". But in Mandarin is was really more like, "Boy, the amount of salt I ate far exceeds the amount of rice you've consumed in your entire lifetime"

For myself, when watching anything in Mandarin or Cantonese, I prefer Chinese subtitles because 9 out of 10 times the English translations are not fully translated properly or the context is wrong.

Yes, my family lives in the Bay Area too. All Cantonese. I never knew anyone speaking Mandarin. Then again, I am ABC. Grew up speaking English with a smidgen of Cantonese, enough to speak a bit with my grandmother.

Umm what are you just going to discredit all the other Chinese immigrants in San Francisco. There are definitely other Chinese immigrants beside the Cantonese. I meet some myself. True that the majority of Chinese immigrants in San Francisco are Cantonese but even from the start of the 1990s there have been more and more non Cantonese Chinese immigrants. Also they not all tech workers either.

I’m born and raised in SF too. My whole family is Taishanese but my mom was born and raised in Xinjiang so she only spoke mandarin growing up. It wasn’t until she moved to San Francisco at 18 when she learned Cantonese because everyone else spoke it. I didn’t even know that mandarin was the dominant language in China or that there was any other form of Chinese. Growing up, there was only one girl who spoke Mandarin with her family in our school but even she learned to speak Cantonese as well because everyone spoke it around her. Cantonese or Taishanese is only heard in the streets of Chinatown.

There's nothing wrong with having a Chinese accent when speaking English. I don't see why you had to point that out. Jessie communicates excellently and expressively, which are factors far more important than accents.

@@taoist32 I never knew anyone speaking Cantonese, tbh. I grew up in the Bay Area (my family is from Taiwan) and there were 7 Chinese kids in my year and all of them spoke mandarin.

We would say Fei Chang Gan Xie Ni 非常感谢你

Isn't Michelle Yeoh a Hong Kong actress.

“Qi” as 氣 is the Hanyupinyin spelling. “Chi” would actually be from an older Chinese transliteration system.

@@an-nientao8835 hi, yes I'm aware the pinyin is qi. My question was why they used Chi instead of Qi.. was it because it was easier for non-native speakers to pronounce?

@@kxooa7809 I think it was according to the source material. Remember that the creator of the original comics probably didn’t speak Chinese and Shang Chi’s first appearance was in the early 1970s before Pinyin was widely used overseas.

@@KevinHuangPhasorQuantaG Truee ok yeah fair when sticking to source materials

@@kxooa7809 别问了……男主采访承认的：这是拍给华人看的。现在中国人这么敏感不是空穴来风，太多两面派，赚了你的钱反过头骂你蠢

Haha thanks, hope it didn't bore you 😉

@@ChinesewithJessie Not at all!! It was super, thanks very much for putting the video together!

Tony Leung is such a big star in HK and China he's considered retiring two or three times since he's been doing it for so long. And he is actually very shy and humble so he rarely does interviews or goes on big promo tours. His promo for Shang-Chi in China/HK was with old friend Dodo, herself a longtime favorite.

Or just moving from Toronto to Vancouver

@@PenneySounds Not really, they inevitably won't be native chinese, their dialects would be tempered by English, giving rise to the things she points out in her video

Is Beijing accent the same as northern accent? The few people I met who came from there have this very obvious accent. Simu sounds like Singapore Mandarin to me. Is that "standard Mandarin"? I've no idea. Never been to China or Singapore, Toronto or Vancouver. The mandarin I hear on HK movies are pretty close to Singapore's. Taiwan's are different again. And PRC movies are the most far apart.

Thank you so much for the critiques! I really appreciate that, I'll definitely work on them.

@@ChinesewithJessie thanks UKposts algorithm. I think i found my new favourite channel. You are funny, entertaining, informative, humble and not to mention gorgeous ;) Gonna watch more videos to brush up my Chinese!

My best friend as a kid was Chinese, born and raised in Canada but her parents were Chinese immigrants who only ever spoke to her in Mandarin. She also went to Chinese school every Saturday, and her piano teacher was also Chinese and spoke to her in Mandarin. So her Mandarin was fluent. Her parents only ever used English (which they were quite fluent in) when outside the house or speaking to me. If a child is immersed in a language they’ll pick it up and learn it, even if outside the home a completely different language is used all the time (English).

Toronto, canada has a HUGE chinese community. If he lived around there i can understand him speaking chinese chinese fluently with tiny american quips that are more of the way he thinks

he's had plenty of opportunities to speak it, Toronto has the largest Chinese community after Vancouver and of course he's watched Chinese films and TV series. Singing also helps keep the language strong. It's not like he moved to Kansas.

@@LilyUnicorn I would say, it is because he was raised by parents who speak fluent Mandarin.

@@SantomPh all he would need is to be raised by parents, that are native Mandarin speakers, that is all he would need.

I find it annoying when when a fluent person whines its not fully accurate. This words means "xxx". Im like....oh gods. Its called colloqiual translation. I have seen so many chinese novels translated very directly. It sounds horrible, ugly and childish. Because of the way chinese grammar is and how chinese words are, especially the excessive use of puns, a lot of it quite frankly sounds....stupid. "This is a suspicious point. Because it was suspicious he looked at xxxx." "This.....point...... point....this....point that." "XX was zzzzz. Therefore he zzzzzzd" Therefore...therefore ...therefore. Oh DanzeZingThing DanzeZingThing.... Oh purple flower purple flower ..... The pure idiocy this sounds like in english is horrifying. In english you sound like a 3 year old who cant construct a complex sentence. In chinese the homonyms and nature of tones influences the way of writing. You reat something twice in chinese to emphasuze a name because unlike english you cant change the tone to emphasize a name/word. Like when nie huaisang in cql goes wo zhen de zhen de bu zhidao.... he says zhen de twice. While you can say it in english like that...it sounds emotionless and weird when its repeated the exact same way. Typically you would drop the extra really and use a loud drawn out tone or have one of the two reallys have a firm and loud tone completely different from the other to emphasize it. Even then "dont know" are more commonly emphasized in english over the really part of the statement. No one speaks like Chinese phrases and grammar the same way as in English and any good translator should also be a good conversationalist. You have to make it flow and not sound unnatural. Especially a film that people cant invest a whole seasons worth of explanations of all the puns or certain characteristic words. Granted there are words in japanese anime that when i see it translated in english in the bottom I frown and either accept that there isnt a better way to convey the meaning or wonder dubiously why they didnt go with the actual word when it made sense. Compared to the squid game catastrophe this is all practically top tier translating and still makes it understandable for pure english speakers. You cannot read a translation knowing every nuance unless like in some shows half the meaning gets dropped and people become utterly baffled. If some literally translated the korean "im crying mustard seed" like that in english..... you bet your ass that americans would drop everything in how stupid it sounds. I read it and think the phrases are hilarious. Especially the eat ramen and go in korean but its simply not going to fly in a single film translation nor would i expect it to. Just be glad that it is accurate

You mean 道明寺？Haha it's dào míng sì

@@ChinesewithJessie THANKS JESSIE my childhood question has finally been answered kindergarten me can rest easy 😭😂

@@ChinesewithJessie In Indonesia we used Taiwanese Wade-giles based romanization during F4 boom, so people mostly remember him as Tao Ming She.