How Huawei plans to take over (HarmonyOS explained)

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HarmonyOS is Huawei's big attempt at building a new ecosystem to challenge Google's and Apple's. After losing access to Google Services and most chips and processors, the company has pivoted to making software. Here is how that is working out so far.
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@Pedro7526
@Pedro7526 2 роки тому
"Write once run everywhere" Java developers: Hey, I've heard this one before!
@simeonnischith6075
@simeonnischith6075 2 роки тому
JAVA'S PRIME FEATURE. Also, the whole of harmony os reminded me of how important and sublime, object oriented programming is.
@sampadmohanty8573
@sampadmohanty8573 2 роки тому
@@simeonnischith6075 While object oriented programming might have correlations, write once run everywhere has not much to do with object orientedness but more to do with unified instruction set for the well specified underlying virtual machine and for upgradability, a good match of reserved instruction set while still being efficient
@simeonnischith6075
@simeonnischith6075 2 роки тому
@@sampadmohanty8573 ye that too
@yqisq6966
@yqisq6966 2 роки тому
An operating system that talks in machine language and a high level language running on a virtual machine are quite different.
@foeskd4594
@foeskd4594 2 роки тому
Write once debug everywhere
@alagusankar9990
@alagusankar9990 2 роки тому
7:11 Microsoft: I'm gonna pretend I never heard that
@Ndragonawa
@Ndragonawa 2 роки тому
5:41 Forza with PS controls on a Harmony phone is all sorts of cursed
@ozrencupac
@ozrencupac 2 роки тому
A xbox game on a huawei phone with PS 1 controls
@KOTYAR0
@KOTYAR0 2 роки тому
@@ozrencupac there's a Chinese company which stole PS and PSP emulator, jacked it full of ads, - and now sells it in China on TukTuk
@KOTYAR0
@KOTYAR0 2 роки тому
@Ndragonawa @Ozren Cupac there's a Chinese company which stole PS and PSP emulator, jacked it full of ads, - and now sells it in China on TukTuk Btw, cool username!
@DailyBeatings
@DailyBeatings 2 роки тому
@@KOTYAR0 What do you mean "stole"? The code is open source under GPL 2.0.
@bulletpunch9317
@bulletpunch9317 2 роки тому
@@DailyBeatings its still illegal anyway if they dont make the modifications to the source code public.
@alcyrona28
@alcyrona28 2 роки тому
I'm from Philippines. I'm waiting for the Harmony OS. 🇵🇭 I think it's cool and new.
@michellenelson3769
@michellenelson3769 2 роки тому
Hello i keep losing when i invest but i'm still trading to improve my techniques i just need a better source to invest and earn while still Trading on my own
@PhilMinecraft
@PhilMinecraft 2 роки тому
hi xD 🇵🇭
@raphaelkyembe4407
@raphaelkyembe4407 2 роки тому
Me too
@Glorious_Kim_Jong_Un
@Glorious_Kim_Jong_Un 2 роки тому
New? Its literally a cross between iOS and Android. They havent shown a single feature that's new. Not one.
@JohnDoe-qj3iv
@JohnDoe-qj3iv 2 роки тому
If Huawei manages to comes out of this mess, it'll easily be the greatest comeback of the decade...
@honkhonk8009
@honkhonk8009 2 роки тому
Hope it isnt. I wish japan or korea steps up their game more. Giving the CCP more control would be 100x worse than the US gov.
@JohnDoe-qj3iv
@JohnDoe-qj3iv 2 роки тому
@@honkhonk8009 Yeah me too, but Korean and Japanese phones target a hole different demographic. For example, I want cheap phones with good specifications and only Chinese phones fulfill that need. Plus Google and Facebook already spy on you, so I don't think it would matter if I used Harmony OS or android..
@yjl11100
@yjl11100 2 роки тому
@@honkhonk8009 no one is worse than the U.S gov, ask any non American or American Ally
@justme6275
@justme6275 2 роки тому
Harmony kill Android🥳
@user-fr2fm3ri3w
@user-fr2fm3ri3w 2 роки тому
@@yjl11100 oh my god you communist imbeciles. I am from Greece and if it weren’t for America the whole Europe would be shell hole
@zekiz774
@zekiz774 2 роки тому
I forgot, that this is your main channel and asked myself: why is there a Friday checkout video on a wednesday?
@samuelflg607
@samuelflg607 2 роки тому
Happy Friday
@SockalingamSubramaniam95
@SockalingamSubramaniam95 2 роки тому
+1 same here!
@davidzwitser
@davidzwitser 2 роки тому
ok
@christ_inspire_daily
@christ_inspire_daily 2 роки тому
Lol me too
@shreevari
@shreevari 2 роки тому
Exactly
@qled8055
@qled8055 2 роки тому
Using HarmonyOS, version 2.0.0, right now, typing this message, in Canada, on my Huawei Mate 30 Pro 5G, on Bell network. Smoother, cleaner, faster and just all around better than Android used before installing this a few weeks ago. No issues running the GMS and all the Google apps. Personally, I won't use any other phone than Huawei, as long as they are available and I can get my hands on. Even the Huawei laptop I got a year ago is miles better quality all around than any other ones ever used, at a competitive price.
@eduwino151
@eduwino151 2 роки тому
how much social credit points did you earn for that bad script you just wrote
@jingus3
@jingus3 2 роки тому
This is just plain sad lolol
@taknaknak4957
@taknaknak4957 2 роки тому
@@eduwino151 you guys getting paid by writing ?
@Thereshallbelight
@Thereshallbelight 2 роки тому
Just as the US Govt. can stop Qualcomm from selling to Huawei, Conversely, the Chinese Govt. can "persuade" the various phone companies to use the Harmony OS platform as a default platform for National Security reasons. Give it a thought. Both countries can use the same rule. Don't always think US centric. The are many countries who doesn't like to use Google phones and hoping for the day that they have a choice.
@fannyalbi9040
@fannyalbi9040 2 роки тому
what do u expect from an always self righteous center westerner called himself IT expert.
@eduwino151
@eduwino151 2 роки тому
do that and basically immidiately loose the export market
@deadlypyre
@deadlypyre 2 роки тому
@@eduwino151 they can export Android phones for the global market.....duh
@matpk
@matpk 2 роки тому
@@fannyalbi9040 Compare 1930s Nazi Germany vs 2020s Communist Chinazi IN YOUR NEXT VIDEO!!!!
@Evan_Rodgers
@Evan_Rodgers 2 роки тому
HarmonyOS is a straight theft of Android except with back doors built by the Chinese government. No thanks.
@samirgrg8923
@samirgrg8923 2 роки тому
If bbk electronics and huawei work together they can pull this off.
@abhishekdev258
@abhishekdev258 2 роки тому
What is the incentive for bbk to work together with them on this?
@leongcm1998
@leongcm1998 2 роки тому
And it's an "if" after all, most manufacturers are not so confident in ditching Google or Android yet. Android has proven its sustainability in future secured by all these ecosystem and user database things.
@jimmylives
@jimmylives 2 роки тому
@@abhishekdev258 Having 4 companies running paralleling in android market is pretty boring
@helianthus2739
@helianthus2739 2 роки тому
@@leongcm1998 Android didn’t prove It's sustainability. Instead it has become a huge concern for phone manufacturers. Anytime they can shut off their GMS for any company. Trust is the main issue with American companies nowadays.
@leongcm1998
@leongcm1998 2 роки тому
@@helianthus2739 That's my point, they won't want to shut off GMS. On firm's perspective, they don't want to be binded by Google. When you want to throw something away for something uncertain, that's the risk most manufacturers don't want to bear. At least for now. It's proven, look at how Huawei performs in global market. Others won't want to take that risk either. If they do, they would've ditched it.
@amaan0331
@amaan0331 2 роки тому
Finally your modular example was clear and easy to explain for someone else. MrWhoseTheBoss made a good video on this topic too but your example was clear. So Subscribed period.
@devanarayans5131
@devanarayans5131 2 роки тому
Basically huawei is shifting from being the Apple of china to being the Google of china Edit:. I meant they are shifting from making premium phones (like apple, for china)....to making software for phones, like Google does
@amitsharma0794
@amitsharma0794 2 роки тому
xiaomi is known as apple of china
@burggerbig102
@burggerbig102 2 роки тому
@@amitsharma0794 nope, Xiaomi can never be apple. Even in China. But Huawei can, but not in the smartphone market due to the US ban
@GTAandApplechannel
@GTAandApplechannel 2 роки тому
@@burggerbig102 in what, they don't have anything that Apple have, they only have cheap copy of the original version iOS -> Harmony Android Skin that looks like iOS launcher on Android iPadOS -> Harmony Android Skin that looks like iPadOS on Android MacBook -> MatBook ( Cheap Huawei ripoff) iPad -> MatPad ( Cheap Huawei ripoff)
@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh
@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh 2 роки тому
@@GTAandApplechannel even their product names are derivatives.
@GTAandApplechannel
@GTAandApplechannel 2 роки тому
@@Follower_Of_Xi_Jinping_Pooh yep Even Xiaomi does that, remember the MiPad (M + iPad = MiPad)
@minima.5089
@minima.5089 2 роки тому
I subbed right after the intro this channel is what i was looking for for so long now good job
@shekharswarnakar5592
@shekharswarnakar5592 2 роки тому
If they could make this dream come reality then believe me Android & iOS will not going to be two of the only major mobile OS.
@capenterjojo3373
@capenterjojo3373 2 роки тому
Exactly how huawei took over the smartphone market. USA would not bully any more companies anymore
@aayush_karna
@aayush_karna 2 роки тому
everybody is first until they refresh
@iBlueBro
@iBlueBro 2 роки тому
First
@rhysclunis6252
@rhysclunis6252 2 роки тому
Be original
@mallasaugat
@mallasaugat 2 роки тому
No, i am not
@sinuslebastian6366
@sinuslebastian6366 2 роки тому
That's your first thought after watching this video? Be original.
@aayush_karna
@aayush_karna 2 роки тому
@@sinuslebastian6366 I commented this about 1minute after the video was up and everyone were commenting first, also it was a joke.
@gurubhaktmohit
@gurubhaktmohit 2 роки тому
They are also investing in cars Those too will probably run Harmony OS.
@TechAltar
@TechAltar 2 роки тому
They are investing into in-car infotainment systems and self-driving software, not cars themselves, but yes, their current car stuff like HiCar is running some version of HarmonyOS for now
@blackworld5615
@blackworld5615 2 роки тому
@@TechAltar total agree but I think huwai is synonymous to cyber insecurity 😅
@tonypaca3015
@tonypaca3015 2 роки тому
@@TechAltar You keep misleading people Hamm? Folks, if harmony OS is not an OS then android isn’t too. Because they use the android open source version in which any manufacturer can replicate and and make an OS from there. The android open source version is not owned by google but google is responsible for updates. Anyone can create an OS from there and call is their own OS. It’s a model and it’s not the same version that run on our phones, it’s a different version on android. Huawei made it much better with the intention to become the OS of Internet of things. And yes, google mobile services apps will work there just as they work on IOS.
@eIectrostatic
@eIectrostatic 2 роки тому
@@blackworld5615 Rest assured, Huawei's products are far more secure than anything India has created...
@ILNSuryaChandra
@ILNSuryaChandra 2 роки тому
@@blackworld5615 no it's not.
@don.timeless4993
@don.timeless4993 2 роки тому
Competition & diversity is healthy. I hope they succeed
@notamoonraker
@notamoonraker 2 роки тому
We already have Linux system for phone, Tizen by Samsung, Sailfish OS, Windows Mobile.. where have you gone?
@gurusgurus8362
@gurusgurus8362 2 роки тому
Agree, I hope Huawei can succeed and focus to develop the best of themselves.
@bootao1671
@bootao1671 2 роки тому
@@notamoonraker Those are either trash or they failed eventually so now we need new competition
@kodyballard49
@kodyballard49 2 роки тому
There's already competition(tho I'll never say no to more): KaiOS, SailfishOS, Mobile Linux(PureOS), & CalyxOS
@notamoonraker
@notamoonraker 2 роки тому
@@bootao1671 Of course they are failed because they are independent projects and didn't get government support as Huawei did from P.R.C govt, duh 🙄 even Huawei still shamelessly rely on Google IMS, unlike those "failed" OS.
@soheljapanwala
@soheljapanwala 2 роки тому
If Huawei still makes it work, It'll be nothing short of a miracle!
@niluss6
@niluss6 2 роки тому
It is not that hard, and not a miracle either. As they aren't starting from scratch. It is fork of Android. Even their IDE as shown in the video looks like a fork of Android studio.
@nakternal
@nakternal 2 роки тому
@@niluss6 good luck making your own chip 😂
@niluss6
@niluss6 2 роки тому
@@nakternal ow this is not about a chip. This is software, and there is this thing called Copy > Paste...
@user-fr2fm3ri3w
@user-fr2fm3ri3w 2 роки тому
@@niluss6 huawei can make it because of china. They are not a free market they can tell xiaomi oppo etc hey guys android is banned you have to use harmony now. They did this to UKposts Facebook etc
@niluss6
@niluss6 2 роки тому
@@user-fr2fm3ri3w But you don't understand thou. If you peek into the Harmony API, it is based on the old version of Android. It is like how custom ROM makers do it, they get Android source and build on top of it. On this case Huawei gets a copy of Android, does their modification and that's the start. Another example is how Linux distros starts by forking an already made one, and modifying it, changing it, making it their own. And I am not saying Huawei can't built it from scratch. They could, and probably has the resources to do so. But they certainly did not start from scratch. And starting from scratch is probably dumb, costly, if you can just fork Android.
@ramzivoidmaster2029
@ramzivoidmaster2029 2 роки тому
Give this man a medal... That's a content creator ❤️
@azarmamiyev2065
@azarmamiyev2065 2 роки тому
I think this is the best explanation video about HarmonyOS and future plans of Huawei. Great work!
@alich9554
@alich9554 2 роки тому
Great Video. Love the Story Behind Series.
@day2148
@day2148 2 роки тому
I think an expression that's missing is that HarmonyOS isn't really an OS... yet. It's clear they intend to move in that direction to have a fully integrated ecosystem with software suite.
@semi59o
@semi59o 2 роки тому
Calling it an OS is Huawei’s publicity stunt. Since he has chatted with people from huawei, saying that directly could be rude and rough.
@GTAandApplechannel
@GTAandApplechannel 2 роки тому
@@semi59o it's not an OS now deal with it
@igorchistyakov8876
@igorchistyakov8876 2 роки тому
@@GTAandApplechannel I wonder, where _you_ personally would put a comma in your statement.
@GTAandApplechannel
@GTAandApplechannel 2 роки тому
@@igorchistyakov8876 between OS and Now
@simeonnischith6075
@simeonnischith6075 2 роки тому
they are atleast making some steps so thats good :)
@ibrahimtouman2279
@ibrahimtouman2279 4 місяці тому
this episode is in urgent need of a follow-up, especially after the release of both Huawei Mate 60 pro & HarmonyOS NEXT
@enesyigit8431
@enesyigit8431 2 роки тому
Your videos are so interesting . I didn’t know any other channel that talks about such topics .
@infoworld7706
@infoworld7706 2 роки тому
Huawei still makes phone, its chip design company still running and design new chip. Since most of the chip manufacturers have to use US technology all over the world, Huawei has to rely on 100% domestic technology, and this year 28nm CPU can be massively made, 14nm CPU next year. So Huawei will solve the chip problem in several year, and the lack for chip supplies will improve next year.
@justme6275
@justme6275 2 роки тому
Harmony kill Android🥳
@dubdadabooda1038
@dubdadabooda1038 2 роки тому
Chinese government was about to do this anyway, so whatever. Huawei is controlled by Chinese government and everybody knows that, and as government forced Huawei to spy it was the only reason Huawei has fallen down to zero.
@user-fr2fm3ri3w
@user-fr2fm3ri3w 2 роки тому
@@justme6275 huawei is literally running android , harmony os is literally android without Google’s apps
@hyxlia_
@hyxlia_ 2 роки тому
@@justme6275 even i'm are Android fan but i like HarmonyOS more than Android
@yisaleyderleydery9915
@yisaleyderleydery9915 2 роки тому
Thank you, I was really looking for an explanation about Huawei situation. Thank you
@TechAltar
@TechAltar 2 роки тому
Glad it was helpful!
@deepakgaba2786
@deepakgaba2786 2 роки тому
@@TechAltar your videos take up amazing topics! The story behind series is one of my favourite things to watch on YT
@matpk
@matpk 2 роки тому
@@TechAltar Compare 1930s Nazi Germany vs 2020s Communist Chinazi IN YOUR NEXT VIDEO!!!!
@okeoghenematthew7425
@okeoghenematthew7425 2 роки тому
I love the script for the intro ❤️
@tanmayjaiswal5935
@tanmayjaiswal5935 2 роки тому
Okay that's actually a really cool use case. Modular apps across devices is actually an amazing function and I'd use Harmony provided the app ecosystem comes along
@kokuyocamlin07
@kokuyocamlin07 2 роки тому
India will most probably ban it. How would you use?
@tanmoyeeghosh7180
@tanmoyeeghosh7180 Рік тому
@@kokuyocamlin07 He's talking of a probability, bro... "If".
@iKnowReview
@iKnowReview 2 роки тому
I was looking forward to this video! 🙏🏼 Huawei did find a niche and maybe they can at least take over the Chinese App-Store Market 🤔
@nigelbassett3791
@nigelbassett3791 2 роки тому
As a former windows phone user, the chance is so slim it’s not even worth thinking about
@TheZachary86
@TheZachary86 2 роки тому
@@nigelbassett3791 He said the Chinese market only. And windows store sucked. Never would have made it in China
@nigelbassett3791
@nigelbassett3791 2 роки тому
@@TheZachary86 It’s not about how good the tech is or even the location. Humans are just wired to latch on to something and keep on that habit unit something drastic forces change. And another dying phone division making another last ditch attempt to stay relevant by propping up it’s mythical “third OS” isn’t gonna cut it. You’d have astronomically better chances inventing a new tech product that runs a new OS than trying to win over the deeply apathetic consumer on the basis of “it’s different, but you’ll have to throw out all your apps and sacrifice your first born to devs in the hopes that one will even give an app for our platform a passing thought”. It just not gonna happen.
@TheZachary86
@TheZachary86 2 роки тому
@@nigelbassett3791 > you’ll have to throw out all your apps Where does it say that in the video? Also did you even watched the integration strategy that was brought up in the video? No one is saying that huawei is going to rip your phone OS and install their own proprietary system that has no integration. I feel that people are just commenting and haven’t even watched the whole video and are just commenting because of their preconceived notions
@nigelbassett3791
@nigelbassett3791 2 роки тому
@@TheZachary86 My point is that it won’t matter. There have been dozens of these failures over the years, and there will be dozens more. The odds of Huawei becoming the next LG are just gonna go up, especially if they’re gonna keep venting money chasing moonshot ideas like this that no one cares about
@and5rs
@and5rs 2 роки тому
HarmonyOS new feature is insane! With huawei tablet and PC manager all run together is next level!
@Aloolf
@Aloolf 2 роки тому
3:28 I was 100% convinced that this is a stock clip, yet I'm 100% convinced they wouldn't have UKposts Vanced in a stcok clip :D
@ProperComment
@ProperComment 2 роки тому
Hi can you please share the background music details (song name ) of story behind series, it's really good, I checked Edemski channel on soundcloud but not able to find it
@niklashenckell8051
@niklashenckell8051 2 роки тому
Now I want to see the OS vs no OS rant. 😅
@justme6275
@justme6275 2 роки тому
Harmony kill Android🥳
@ToriKo_
@ToriKo_ 2 роки тому
Clear video, good job
@ericliume
@ericliume 2 роки тому
Harmony OS is being used not only in cellphone or pads, but also cars, IoT devices, etc.
@louislee5792
@louislee5792 2 роки тому
The Harmony OS running on IoT devices are not the same as the one running on phones; they just share the same name. It's like naming your spoon "chopsticks" and claim you can drink soup with chopsticks.
@ericliume
@ericliume 2 роки тому
@@louislee5792 From developer's point of view, it doesn't matter if they are the same or not, since applications are not talking directly to the kernels of the OS. Applications are talking through APIs provided by the HAL. Harmony OS's for phones/pads and IoT are using different kernels, Linux or LiteOS, but they share common APIs. When developers develop an application, they can decided if they want it to run, or which module they want to run on phone, watch or IoT devices. The different between the two Harmony OS variants is similar to the concept of Android vs Android Ware (Ware OS now).
@louislee5792
@louislee5792 2 роки тому
@@ericliume While the development might be more or less the same, that's not really the point here. Just because they share similar APIs don't make them variants of one another. It's like a Java developer claiming Mac, Windows and Linux to be of the same family since Java applications interact with JVM and not the kernels. Or a JS developer claiming Safari, Chrome and Firefox to be of the same family since they implement the same Web APIs. By the way, even though HarmonyOS is not yet open source, people have successfully run APKs on HarmonyOS, implying the APIs to be compatible. Can I then claim HarmonyOS to be a variant of Android? Would you agree that HarmonyOS is an Android distribution?
@ericliume
@ericliume 2 роки тому
@@louislee5792 To be honest, Java developer can consider Mac, Windows and Linux are all the same due to the fact that JVM makes the platforms less of a fuss. That is the point in the first place as JVM comes into picture. While JS, on the other hand, cannot claim the same since it is highly depending on how each browser supports the APIs and if the implementation is W3C compatible. By the way, Huawei has already made it open source. HarmonyOS is open source under the project OpenHarmony, you can go download the source from gitee.com/openharmony , and you can download it's home-grown LiteOS kernel source from GitHub.
@louislee5792
@louislee5792 2 роки тому
@@ericliume Java developer can see the three as the same **during development**, but they are still three different operating systems. Period. Applying an abstraction layer on top of existing OS doesn't make these OS the same. Why just focus on Java developers? Why not ask UWP developers? Swift developers? GTK developers?
@clementoseitano7568
@clementoseitano7568 2 роки тому
@TechAltar, do you build your apps all by yourself or you have a dedicated team for that?
@luccasangpur6527
@luccasangpur6527 2 роки тому
Great Videos! Will you be doing a Video on Windows 11?
@fuseteam
@fuseteam 2 роки тому
The cross device functionality is something some of us have been dreaming about, for it to be 'cross operating system' is very interesting imo I said it once, I'll say it again: Huawei is abstracting the underlying operating system. I see that as somewhat an revolutionary idea
@TechAltar
@TechAltar 2 роки тому
Agreed! I think it's an interesting idea, even if I'm not sure it will succeed
@fuseteam
@fuseteam 2 роки тому
@@TechAltar i kinda hope it'll succeed if not i kinda hope more people realize they are on to something and replicate it, abstracting the os away from the user and possibly the app devs feels like the way forward 👀
@louislee5792
@louislee5792 2 роки тому
"abstracting the underlying operation system" So... Virtual machines?
@fuseteam
@fuseteam 2 роки тому
@@louislee5792 nope, abstracting the underlying operating system by blurring the lines between them. harmonyos app are supposed to work as long as "harmonyos' layer" is there regardless if its android or some other os. this "layer" is capable of running parts of the app on another device, regardless of the underlying operating system, and interface with it as well. finally this "layer" is also capable of access peripherals connected to another device regardless of the underlying os. actually here's an ambitious example say you have a windows computer, an android phone and an ipad and a smart tv and say vlc is an "harmonyos app" with your android phone you launch vlc and but you tell run it on your windows computer. as a result you play say a movie stored on your pc but both the video and the sound appear to come from your tv, you pick up your tv remote and pause it. finally you pick up your ipad decide to tweak vlc's settings to your liking before continuing. a bit forced, overdone and probably a bad example but in huawei's terms all 4 devices are running "harmonyOS". to the end user all the devices are running "one operating system" despite there being 4 underlying operating systems; those 4 operating systems are abstracted away from the user as one single operating system
@FearedByKittens
@FearedByKittens 2 роки тому
@@fuseteam Kinda like Java Virtual Machine (JVM)? You can install it on most devices and their operating systems, hence developers can develop software for them all. But maybe Huawei is also doing interconnectivity/interoperabilitybetween them at the same time.
@ariaa8362
@ariaa8362 2 роки тому
The part about developers creating a single app that runs on TV, watches and phones, that's totally possible with Android. HarmonyOS is a fork of Android and it's using the exact same mechanism under the hood.
@jossdionne9810
@jossdionne9810 2 роки тому
My Android just blew up, on my RCA phone, beyond g repair. Welcome to you "Harmony SOS"!!
@seamikiseamiki1825
@seamikiseamiki1825 2 роки тому
I feel the same enthusiasm as the modular phone concept
@anotherjuan
@anotherjuan 2 роки тому
whew i forgot this channel existed. you rarely appear on my feed, you should upload more.
@VoloKinProject
@VoloKinProject 2 роки тому
Pricing of their recent flagships along with no Google out of the box is what killed them.
@KnolesCoolStuff
@KnolesCoolStuff 2 роки тому
Great video and explained very well.
@alienamzal477
@alienamzal477 2 роки тому
This was in my recommended. And now iam subbed
@angelmetatron00
@angelmetatron00 2 роки тому
Huawei's pivot to be a software company, for now, and be the Google of China sounds compelling and I am interested in what the Harmony platform can bring to their domestic market
@nakternal
@nakternal 2 роки тому
Spyware
@thewishmastur
@thewishmastur 2 роки тому
@@nakternal.. Android would have been better if they didn't install so much bloatware on their phones. Ios is a better os.
@nakternal
@nakternal 2 роки тому
@@thewishmastur Its still chinese crap
@nogrammer
@nogrammer Рік тому
@@nakternal that is all modern commerical software
@d.o.g573
@d.o.g573 Рік тому
You mean being forced to keep their mouths shut ?! They will die as a company
@gzy2001
@gzy2001 2 роки тому
As a Chinese user of Apple and Huawei products, I am looking forward to seeing Matter devices coming in China, since Huawei was also a member of the alliance.
@ThaFedejp
@ThaFedejp 2 роки тому
I love TFC but The Story Behind and TechAltar are way superior videos💪💪💪
@fhjunior6183
@fhjunior6183 2 роки тому
Thanks for the video
@aurelioldc
@aurelioldc 2 роки тому
Nice video and explanation! It all makes sense now, seeing HarmonyOS as a platform rather than an OS. Funny the US pushed Huawei to become a leader faster than they were... I still would prefer all the system to be fully open (Free Software, as in freedom), but at the very least, it's something to keep an eye on.
@Evan_Rodgers
@Evan_Rodgers 2 роки тому
Their OS is nothing more than theft of Android.
@aurelioldc
@aurelioldc 2 роки тому
@@Evan_Rodgers How can you steal what is free? I mean, AOSP.
@jay8235
@jay8235 2 роки тому
@@Evan_Rodgers do some homework first lol
@hikarupp123
@hikarupp123 2 роки тому
@@Evan_Rodgers but android is free is open to everyone?
@user-fr2fm3ri3w
@user-fr2fm3ri3w 2 роки тому
@@hikarupp123 yeah but huawei claims they made a new os , meanwhile it’s just a form of android. I can make my own os too if I fort android or linuix, all they did was change the icons and remove Google’s apps
@noblecollins9549
@noblecollins9549 2 роки тому
The epistle of a well researched video
@ExplorerBae
@ExplorerBae 2 роки тому
This Man make that video Others dont expect. 🔥
@jossdionne9810
@jossdionne9810 2 роки тому
Looking Great!
@n0madfernan257
@n0madfernan257 2 роки тому
good move from them, good android interoperability with other devices seems to be lacking
@ArchieGee
@ArchieGee 2 роки тому
We need another ecosystem!
@hahahahahah607
@hahahahahah607 2 роки тому
For what reason
@GTAandApplechannel
@GTAandApplechannel 2 роки тому
@@hahahahahah607 no reason that's the reason
@mariankis1158
@mariankis1158 2 роки тому
@@hahahahahah607 cause none of existent ecosystem is complete. We need another "bluetooth" revolution where everything can be connected in a huge ecosystem even if those are not from the same manufacturer.
@hahahahahah607
@hahahahahah607 2 роки тому
@@mariankis1158 Buying Chinese product means supporting rape, murder, culture genocide and violations of human right in Tibet, southern Mongolen, hongkong 🇭🇰 people and Uighur.. Say no to made in China
@mariankis1158
@mariankis1158 2 роки тому
@@hahahahahah607 apple products are made in the same way, in China. Tesla cars too. Xiaomi & Oppo. A lot of chips too. Your headphones are, your peripherals are. Huawei is not the problem here. Also, they are good to their employees. Idk about production employees, but the rest are just fine. They even get equal shares when they employ to Huawei.
@allezvenga7617
@allezvenga7617 2 роки тому
Thanks for your sharing
@akshithreddythokala9709
@akshithreddythokala9709 2 роки тому
seeing your video after a really long time.
@pandaengine
@pandaengine 2 роки тому
I just want someone to be able to replicate the connectivity of Apple ecosystem. It would be awesome.
@hamzahamed4334
@hamzahamed4334 2 роки тому
Huawei is also building it's own microchips along with this OS and will soon have its own platform like Apple which would allow consumers to live-streams 4K online like Apple at an affordable price.
@davidmaxwaterman
@davidmaxwaterman 2 роки тому
Yup, I think you nailed it.
@tzoumasmixalis1630
@tzoumasmixalis1630 2 роки тому
Is a relation harmony os with the crypto token harmony(one) ? By the way nice excellent explain !
@tomiputra3720
@tomiputra3720 2 роки тому
The simple reason are because: They were banned to use google android as OS and not that they wanted to create 3th party OS but forced too. As US still in paranoid mode they are developing android based OS to be used by all China devices & phone so when the ban expanded to other company Harmony OS can be used by them.
@martin0469
@martin0469 2 роки тому
US isn't paranoid, they just know very well what chinese government does :)))
@tomiputra3720
@tomiputra3720 2 роки тому
@@martin0469 not paranoid? 😂 Your government even tapping to their european allies, and microsoft just come out and saying us gov is getting your cloud data without your consent lol. As if that is not paranoid? And how many budget does us spend to make negative news on china? Yeah just goole them 😁
@martin0469
@martin0469 2 роки тому
@@tomiputra3720 And how many students did China kill in 1989? And now tries to delete this from their history??? No one can speak about this in china because they will go in prison. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/o318qq6BZICklHU.html
@martin0469
@martin0469 2 роки тому
@@tomiputra3720 I am disgusted by you. You don’t even know how many bad things Chinese government does, comunism is sooo bad. People don’t have any right to speak there. Every single text message can be supervised and if you write somenthing that chinese government doesn’t like, they will kill your relatives or make them dissappear for example :))) or you will simply go to the prison for a lifetime. these are true stories. 99.99% of people who are acused of something there get even senteced. No human rights at all :)))
@tomiputra3720
@tomiputra3720 2 роки тому
@@martin0469 have you been to china? like US is saint? destroying a country because of washing powder? lol not mention slavery and racial abuse
@blauw67
@blauw67 2 роки тому
I think the Harmonies app system where only part of the apps are loaded depending on the device is very interesting, as well as the Super Device idea.
@xzybit1984
@xzybit1984 2 роки тому
That's why they are right to call it a distributed system.
@shiningstar9403
@shiningstar9403 2 роки тому
1:43 does anyone know the name of this intro music??
@tyn6211
@tyn6211 Рік тому
I think the future is industrial and physical infrastructure connectivity, for example fully autonomous container ports.
@thetechiecarguy5.094
@thetechiecarguy5.094 2 роки тому
One question what would be the 2nd or 1st because apart from ios, as much as I hate to say it samsung hasn't fully developed an organized eco system like Apple's
@Pa7na
@Pa7na 2 роки тому
I'm guessing but maybe he meant Apple, Android, HarmonyOS all 3 being some kind of ecosystem. As different as some Android skins are, all in all Android is Android.
@auliamate
@auliamate 2 роки тому
Android will still be number one and iOS will still be number two. Both are too recognizable, popular and big to be overthrown. They have the consumer's trust (compared to Huawei lol). HarmonyOS will be third if Samsung doesn't come out of no where and release OneOS or something, since if they did, Huawei is basically fricked. But Samsung is obviously trying to strengthen it's partnership with Google so that is 99.99% unlikely.
@vedaryan334
@vedaryan334 2 роки тому
Also Harmony reminds me of Andy Rubin's Ambient OS
@shanujha7245
@shanujha7245 2 роки тому
it is basically intellij idea (android studio) skinned as DevEco. The code seems to be in Java, but classes are not from Android...so they made their own fork of some base android?
@maplenerd22
@maplenerd22 2 роки тому
They just basically rename the classes to something slightly different. The APIs are pretty much all the same as Android classes.
@taikhingchang
@taikhingchang 2 роки тому
So many Chinese Malaysian like me are stop buying new phone for the pass 2 years, we're waiting for Huawei to make thing happen.
@ivan49
@ivan49 2 роки тому
i have a honor 10 lite before the google ban, and i hope they will rollout harmony os to old devices
@pcm1011
@pcm1011 2 роки тому
I will use my P10 until it stops working. Newer phones might look cool but their functionality is basically the same, or even less without access to Google services
@vladdx
@vladdx 2 роки тому
Honor 10 lite unfortunately won't get HarmonyOS update, P10 will
@financial.affairs
@financial.affairs 2 роки тому
Harmony will be wide use os. I think they will be number one os in china, but on global market im not so sure.
@GTAandApplechannel
@GTAandApplechannel 2 роки тому
Harmony isn't an OS
@moutasim_ayoubi
@moutasim_ayoubi 2 роки тому
@@GTAandApplechannel it's
@GTAandApplechannel
@GTAandApplechannel 2 роки тому
@@moutasim_ayoubi Fake
@sa34w
@sa34w 2 роки тому
@CISO where does IOS runs android apps
@financial.affairs
@financial.affairs 2 роки тому
@@GTAandApplechannel we will see
@Dare2Blink
@Dare2Blink 2 роки тому
Interesting overview but I think you are missing one important detail. Huawei will soon start selling devices with a snapdragon ship in 4g variants, so they should be able to ramp up production in that way until they can make their own chips in china.
@porky1118
@porky1118 2 роки тому
So can I write and run Harmony Apps on my linux PC?
@ericka.montanez6821
@ericka.montanez6821 2 роки тому
I'm surprised youtube didn't recommend this to me. I watch pretty much every video on this channel
@spidey9504
@spidey9504 2 роки тому
same
@alxdava2004
@alxdava2004 2 роки тому
Don't want to advertise the opponent
@AkashYadavOriginal
@AkashYadavOriginal 2 роки тому
All this will effort will give them a remote chance to be relevant in China. Outside China Wear OS and Watch OS will become more and more dominant just like their phone counterparts.
@redditr5577
@redditr5577 2 роки тому
There are millions of people in China using huawei. I mean ofc in terms of the Chinese scale its not a lot but they are still quite relevant there.
@AkashYadavOriginal
@AkashYadavOriginal 2 роки тому
@@redditr5577 But with US Sanctions their number of users are decreasing day by day even in China.
@redditr5577
@redditr5577 2 роки тому
@@AkashYadavOriginal That's true. It means they just have to do something outstanding that would capture consumers heart then. No matter what company it is as long as it is cheap and provides excellent quality people will buy it. There are also countries that look for affordable prices instead of an iphone that is almost always same every year. Surprised that people in China go crazy about iphones.
@AkashYadavOriginal
@AkashYadavOriginal 2 роки тому
@@redditr5577 that's why I said they have a remote chance because unless what they do is something truly unique than only they can get a chance to taste success. But the chances are if they do something really good and get traction Apple and Google can easily copy them. See what happened to Tile, first Apple promoted them during WWDC. When they started getting popular, Apple copied their concept in Airtags, made it cheap. Also implemented OS level restrictions so Tile app user experience starts degrading.
@subsplease-gk7yo
@subsplease-gk7yo 2 роки тому
@@AkashYadavOriginal the difference is that 80percent of the phone market is android and 70 percent of the android phones are Chinese, so if the Chinese phones dump android then google would struggle
@LinaSof1215
@LinaSof1215 2 роки тому
I am big fan of Huawei and Chinese tech production. Eager to enjoys Harmony OS.
@Ivoshevo
@Ivoshevo 2 роки тому
What programming language are developers going to use with it ?
@jencruz21
@jencruz21 2 роки тому
Probably Java again or you can use JavaScript but most of the docs are Java based so.. Java it is
@igorthelight
@igorthelight 2 роки тому
Java and Kotlin As usual
@vladdx
@vladdx 2 роки тому
@@jencruz21 And C++
@maartenboy37
@maartenboy37 2 роки тому
3:27 Haha I see the Vanced, you must be sick of TY's shit as much as we are if not more!
@TechAltar
@TechAltar 2 роки тому
I actually pay for UKposts Premium. This is a retail device I played with in a Huawei store that came pre-installed with Vanced
@simeonnischith6075
@simeonnischith6075 2 роки тому
@@TechAltar vanced devs be like : TIS A WIN
@louislee5792
@louislee5792 2 роки тому
@@tonypaca3015 HarmonyOS is different from OpenHarmony, previously known as LiteOS. The OS running on Huawei phones is not the same running on IoT devices, at least not now. Get your facts straight before accusing people being misleading.
@rdnax5775562
@rdnax5775562 2 роки тому
Great analysis/ explanation! It would definitely be better for the consumers to have a third platform-choice!
@nanochox
@nanochox 2 роки тому
Yes, and out of the scope of western intelligence agencies
@SirFaceFone
@SirFaceFone 2 роки тому
@@nanochox As if the alternative is any better with China. If only Nokia's OS(s) was still around...
@nanochox
@nanochox 2 роки тому
@@SirFaceFone I understand that it's not a great alternative, but it's an alternative
@xerxesYt123
@xerxesYt123 2 роки тому
Huawei partnered with my university to give classes on creating apps for huawei devices
@hungcheng4669
@hungcheng4669 2 роки тому
That is too deep for a general user like me but maybe watching it numerous times may learn a little. Thanks.
@ellashy6539
@ellashy6539 2 роки тому
I will just support huawei by virtue of unfair competition respect to them
@azhariarif
@azhariarif Рік тому
Unfair competition my ass, China outright banned some foreign companies to even operate in China.
@d.o.g573
@d.o.g573 Рік тому
And I just want to see Huawei burn to the ground - because we can
@impendio
@impendio 2 роки тому
Nothing better than waking to a new episode of The Story Behind!
@themorningsounds1038
@themorningsounds1038 2 роки тому
Keep and show us how to explain it, in difference device between...
@raymondquiatchon
@raymondquiatchon Рік тому
This is good competition for all of mobile OS. The great thing about this scenario, it's a win for most users.
@bigjohn2811
@bigjohn2811 2 роки тому
So you have the choice of being spied on between Chinese government or the US government.
@thetaomega7816
@thetaomega7816 2 роки тому
No, Chinese government or US Tech Firms
@GTAandApplechannel
@GTAandApplechannel 2 роки тому
The Chinese Military or The FBI ( which they can denies their access by the way unlike the Chinese Military which)
@OKNathan
@OKNathan 2 роки тому
At least regulators can mitigate Apple/Google. Also you can use Android without Google services and preserve your privacy. Apple does a good job about privacy as well. On the other hand we can’t do anything about the CCP/China.
@TheZachary86
@TheZachary86 2 роки тому
@@thetaomega7816 You should listen to what Snowden said about the NSA
@dkbro9507
@dkbro9507 2 роки тому
@CISO absolutely right
@JinFX
@JinFX 2 роки тому
Huawei did not set out to be a phone company. Making phones was always just an extension of their strong development. They still have a lot of chip and communications technology that they can use to go into many markets. They have always ventured into adjacent markets with weird products that just copies the established brands at first, but may or may not get bigger. It seems that Huawei has been making laptops for a while now but they have all have the same horrible keyboard and ergonomics in general, but if they keep making them they must be selling. Now Huawei is making monitors but they again they have usability problems and the reviews are bad. But what is sure is there is always something new from Huawei because they have such strong development that they can try any slightly related market without a problem. So Harmony OS will absolutely be huge in China and it will change everything because what no one else in China is making their own technology.
@kawaiiLorenz1995
@kawaiiLorenz1995 2 роки тому
Aren't some sort of atomic functionality already existing in android platform?
@maplenerd22
@maplenerd22 2 роки тому
Yes it does. It's just not as as integrated into the OS.
@mikexhotmail
@mikexhotmail 2 роки тому
Am in!
@drfleka
@drfleka 2 роки тому
Huawei should work with Windows in integration and optimization for a better world.
@KevinFlynn_
@KevinFlynn_ 2 роки тому
Microsoft is an american company and will not cooperate
@drfleka
@drfleka 2 роки тому
@@KevinFlynn_ That's why every one hates the USA government.
@riteshrajbanshi7550
@riteshrajbanshi7550 2 роки тому
I really wana see Chinese self depending OS not depend on American. This lesson i learn from this countro versi
@levelup1279
@levelup1279 2 роки тому
Google isn't sleeping at the wheel, they will likely add support for app fragmentation in the future.
@ismailalialiali1216
@ismailalialiali1216 2 роки тому
Take a break from HW and focus on SW and back to HW and SW. Wow!
@TheXlen
@TheXlen 2 роки тому
Huawei has announced that they are building a new foundry, so they will actually become a vertically stacked hardware company now😅
@TheXlen
@TheXlen 2 роки тому
@linkzable I'd say that the biggest losers will be the US tech companies, because there are a lot of Asian companies eying Huawei's software and their future hardware as well, there are rumors that Samsung is one of them even though Samsung is one of few companies with comparable resources.
@r3yuk682
@r3yuk682 2 роки тому
@@TheXlen source?
@TheXlen
@TheXlen 2 роки тому
@@r3yuk682 Huawei building fabs was reported by XDA, Asian company dissatisfaction with US dominance over patents etc isn't really anything new.
@pimpjenkins
@pimpjenkins 2 роки тому
Question now is if the app developers will jump on an OS with little niche & tight security due to the Chinese airspace
@tanvir1473
@tanvir1473 2 роки тому
They are still competitor . What about honor series ?
@maartenstriepe6893
@maartenstriepe6893 2 роки тому
11:38 "Chrome Extended Universe" xD
@nobodyhere4667
@nobodyhere4667 2 роки тому
My Huawei is the only phone that has ever lived up to the hype. 4 years later and still works as good as the day I bought it. There is only one phone company I plan on buying from in the future and if they go away, I wont turn back to the overpriced pieces of disposable garbage that most people have. I'd rather a flip phone than a apple product any day of the week.
@user-fr2fm3ri3w
@user-fr2fm3ri3w 2 роки тому
Yeah keep lying to your self. You are pretty much saying that off brand Nike shoes are better than the real deal , just admit you are broke and you would rather have the Chinese government spy in you than work part time for a few weeks
@user-fr2fm3ri3w
@user-fr2fm3ri3w 2 роки тому
@@ergenekon3257 The us gov isn’t spying on anybody, and besides if you use Facebook you agree tot he terms and it’s optional.
@oscarl2334
@oscarl2334 2 роки тому
@@user-fr2fm3ri3w The US government is the best government in the world. They never spy other countries and want to give everyone in the world a better life 😅😅😅
@user-fr2fm3ri3w
@user-fr2fm3ri3w 2 роки тому
@@oscarl2334are you really trying to say Iran turkey Russia and china are better than America? And I won’t even go to Africa and third world countries…
@oscarl2334
@oscarl2334 2 роки тому
@@user-fr2fm3ri3w 😅😅😅
@Arceus-zl5ur
@Arceus-zl5ur 2 роки тому
3:27 Vanced 👀
@chuwy2k
@chuwy2k 2 роки тому
Well, if we are talking about device/demographic proportion, there is a big chance to Huawei to put their devices (of part of their OS in third party devices) in each Chinese people hand, so, there you go, they have to sell with this image of the harmonic ecosystem that just works as Apple products. It will be easy to them to provide high quality products, at half of the cost (compared to Apple) and get a great position on the sells market, this is called massive sales. In the order hand, there is political issues that will affect those sells around the World, for example, almost all countries in America is a partnership of Chinese brands, from device to cars to heavy loads vehicles that operates in these countries (as Venezuela, Uruguay, Bolivia, Paraguay, Argentina, Chile, even Brazil), and their citizen can access to this, but not an Apple product because over "priced" products, and this is just an example.
@Ghostv33
@Ghostv33 2 роки тому
Basically Huawei is in the same position AMD was in for yrs But AMD came through If Huawei can overcome the hurdles They might succeed In the end it's better to have more choice Creates competition and new things
@maplenerd22
@maplenerd22 2 роки тому
I agree that it's better to have more choice. But in the case for AMD they actually created a completely new chip design that performs better than Intel. Huawei on the other hand didn't create anything new. They just made something that looks and functions exactly like Android with a communication layer that makes connecting to devices slightly easier. At the end of the day they are still reliant on Android apps ecosystem.
@Ghostv33
@Ghostv33 2 роки тому
@@maplenerd22 they are working AOSP Which is open source So can't complain And yeah OS in their case is huge blurry Then again over time maybe they will give something either better or worse than android Who knows :3
@maplenerd22
@maplenerd22 2 роки тому
@@Ghostv33 - Oh yeah....there's no complaint for them using open source. But if they want to succeed in an already mature market, they need to provide something completely different and a game changing. AMD's new chip design were game changing and that's why they succeeded. When the iPhone first came to market, it was game changing with gestures and finger navigation. HarmonyOS isn't game changing. In fact, it's just a slightly different version of Android. The only thing that is different is their connection layer which makes it easier only for other HarmonyOS IOT devices.
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