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It’s funny how there are only like 5 horror mods that are actually good? Why? The rest are bad or copied the cave dweller

Player is the cave dwellers worst enemy because player can kill him but he still tries to kill you

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makes sense

I agree.

How is costing you 1 iron ingot and 6 planks on the first time you encounter it overkill? Once you learn it can do that you can just not hold up your shield too.

@@skabop47 It's out of place. It doesn't do just durability damage like every other attack it just deletes the shield. What other interaction in minecraft could delete a full durability item with one use?

@@skabop47 imagine using the wrong tool to mine a block like an axe to stone, but instead of doing extra damage to the tools durability to show you shouldn't do that, it just fucking breaks it no matter how new it was or the enchants on it. How satisfying!

Seeing a very stiff animation of dweller number 28374 climbing was very underwhelming

@@MoonCat2790 it didn't help that dweller 28374 was already very underwhelming

@@MoonCat2790 to be fair, this one was the first one.

@@screener0797 im talking about stuff like origin, goatman, dark dweller, the copy ones

I think the Man from the Fog just got a new climbing animation😅

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I also like that he made it vanilla-friendly and limited it to only the caves. Unlike the new ones that essentially reduced Cave Dweller to a next-bot or a random and nigh-unavoidable death event. The only thing that I would change is the instant shield break because it comes off as very cheap/a band-aid solution.

Somewhat agreed, most of the copycats dwellers were made for the "creepy" factor without putting any thought or time into balancing making it either a 1 shot deathfest or extremely underwhelming, and since they appeared every 5 minutes it just became annoying.

@@CamoranWasTaken They still do not look "creepy" or "scary." They all look like a 10-year-old's Mary Sue Creepypasta or SCP OC. Mary Sue is also a fitting term for them, considering how almost all of the copycats had little to no weakness/counterplay.

@@Daralexen Long teeth, glowing eyes (and teeth for some reason, who is their dentist) and them being able to dunk on you is "scary" from what has been put out.

@@Daralexen yeah i would just make it so that he disables the shield instead, just like the axe

It is now.

Same, I know people are like "this was how Minecraft was supposed to be!!" like nah that's BS, some people have different tolerances for scariness. Minecraft was supposed to be chill and free roaming, which it is.

people would get used to this

For me, that would be a HUGE problem, i literally built a MASSIVE structure which looks like a nether fortress in a massive cavern, like bridges and chambers built into the walls of the cave are almost everywhere, spent 3 years on it, so yea I would have to leave it all behind cus I'm a absolute PUSSY.

@@alexremmei883 Does the Cave Dweller spawn in well-lit areas?

Same vibe from me, I made a comment about this with my thoughts, and I hope that’s what you think is cool as well

With a bit of know-how you can yoink designs of copycats, pasting the model & texture into Gargin's mod while keeping the original code.

​@@silver1340 also hoping the animations don't glitch

I think the simplicity of the design fits with minecraft's style and form

@@GoldPlatedKikimora But minecraft is not that simple

Agreed, maybe have it chunk 1/3 of total shield durability and then disable it for like 10 seconds

and also the climbing, what if someone just makes a tower with all sides blocked off? the dweller should be able to jump that at least by 1 block

​@@coolkid006 that cannot be done when the chase is already engaged because of the lack of time to do so, and if one prepared beforehand, then I think it is fair to be rewarded for that preparation

Even Gargin himself got tired of the dweller copies, love to see it

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Your cave dweller in nice

To be honest, I find its gangly limbs kind of freaky but that's about it lol

@@avacadotoast5571 That's the problem. The single "spooky" thing about the Cave Dweller is that of its long limbs. But in a game like Minecraft, where you can lift billions of kilograms and bees are almost as big as your head, being a bit longer than usual isn't really that much of a feature. The Dweller needs an updated appearance, to make him scarier than just being "the long grey guy"

The whole point was to make it fit in with the vanilla minecraft theme but i do agree its kinda funky looking than creepy looking.

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I feel like it would be better if it did not fit the MC artstyle, especially since this thing is very much not a typical MC monster

That problem of constantly being attacked does not apply to the copycats made after the original became UKpostsr bait. The new ones would spawn every 2-5 minutes and are essentially just an RNG random death event or "you lose button."

@@Daralexenthe spawn rates for some of them are around exactly 230 seconds, I checked the config of it

@@MoonCat2790 That screams "Made for scripted UKposts videos and not for general gameplay."

@@Daralexen what a coincidence its the dwellers that was in swayles series

This is the biggest reason why I think the Dweller Evolved mod is so much better, because the default Dweller just becomes an absolute nuisance after a while with how common it is. It's also just really poorly suited to long-term survival worlds, because there's _nothing_ you can do to prevent it from spawning, and it will be there harassing you anytime you need to do stuff underground. Making an XP farm? Using your XP farm? Lighting up caves for a surface farm? Digging a perimeter? Building an underground base? Building an underwater ocean base? He will be there, and you can't stop him from being there. I think he should take a page out of the Alien Isolation handbook because a big part of why that game is so great is that the Alien isn't always there, and it makes those unscripted random encounters so much more memorable and scary because of how it catches you by surprise.

That... That IS how it works. Unless you're playing with the Nightmare version of the mod.

@@ScareSans I just tested the mod and out of the 20 times I spawned it. I got 15 insta chases 4 walk forwards then chase and one flee

It does fit Minecraft though? It is not in a desperate need of any remodel.

I feel the same way. While the design isn’t terrible persay it’s very mid 2010s creepy pasta. It’s a tall guy with a weird face, lots of characters do something more evocative with that basic premise. And all the minecraft original monsters, especially the warden manage to be scary or imposing and also have a unique flare to them. In the first video he said the noises were meant to be bug like, I say lean into that. Give it mandibles and extra limbs. Make it weird and monstrous. I would even argue you could theme it to be another manifestation of the skulk. Take away it’s eyes, make it blue, it could work. The fact that it would still “look” at you and reacted to visual stimuli even though it was outwardly blind would make it even more intimidating. Assuming you didn’t change it further to be more inline with the vibrational nature of the skulk.

⁠@@mlp_firewind8129I think the only part of its design that does work is the eyes. Seeing them from a distance is terrifying. I also think that while a cool and unique idea, the bug concept strays too far from Minecraft in terms of design. Including all of those elements would make the design too detailed, too un-minecrafty, or too cluttered

@@disrespecc9678it doesn’t fit Minecraft at all little man

My two cents is that its coloring is too bad and it’s too thin. We are genetically predisposed to fear things taller than us, so that is great, but the clammy ass skin has to go for something more unique, interesting, and better suited for Minecraft. The main issue is its size however (which is why I specifically mentioned his height being great) Endermen work because of two main things, their unsettling looks, with their height and then bodies seeming different than the other monsters in an eerie way. As well as their teleportation, because when they do give chase you are left with no clue where they are. This doesn’t work for the dweller because unlike endermen, it actively sprints and hunts you down. The mod tries to break tension into terror through the chase. Endermen on the other hand never play into terror, and only play on the tension of finding them. So their weak frame is fine. But the dweller simply can’t be scary when it’s built like a starving African child whose diet is nothing but rice bought from $1 donations from people in America. It needs to be thicker. This is done super well with the warden. I absolutely am not saying the dweller should be as thick as that unit, considering a leaner build works better for his mechanics and overall design, but the warden’s presence during a chase is overwhelming not just because of the inevitably of your doom, but how large of a presence he has. To summarize, make him larger and give him a demanding presence, redo his color scheme, and while we are at it for no reason in particular, we should work with Minecraft references to get him in a spot where a non-player can’t call him out from other vanilla mobs easily. A creative redesign is also needed, as I feel the monsters design as a whole feels frankly uninspired and basic. The most typical monster design out there.

Or change the cave dweller subtitles to stuff like 'it is watching' for the stare and 'it wants to catch you' for the chase

A literal perfect blend of this would just be to make the first time you get chased it is guaranteed to scream like it does, but after that it remembers which players it’s chased and how many times, and after that first time it’s chased you it becomes silent in its hunt, but it uses its memory of how many times you have been chased and if it screamed or not to surprise you every now and again with the scream. I think it’s great because your description of its chase is perfect for a tense moment where a player knowing what it is wants to run away and hears it catching up, but a new player would be more impactful by the horrible scream for a creature they know nothing about, only that it is hunting them down. And if it kept a log of its chases, with a little coding you could make it chasing with a scream a looming possibility, so while not heard enough to be annoying, it will catch even experienced players off guard when it does happen

The Man from the Fog wasn’t that bad tho, was it?

Tbh Man from the Fog, the One who Watches & the Knocker are all decent, like they tried to be something different instead of just a clone of this mod. Not to mention the Manbear which will hopefully be released soon

Siren head mod by kilhec. It’s not out yet but will be soon

@@nathanielcallen3965 The Knocker is a godtier one.

@@nathanielcallen3965 They are all mediocre in my opinion. Man From the Fog was good at first, but then the creator had to wank it to DeviantArt OC levels. One Who Watches was always unfun and felt like a self-inset OC for the developer, and The Knocker is literally Poorman's Ao oni

That is a great idea!

i mean "fast guy kill you" is just the gmod Next-Bots

@ZIGAG1999 He essentially just ported Gargitron to Minecraft. Although, the Cave Dweller feels more like an animalistic creature than a “scary” jpeg image.

I think the manbear does a great job at this, it even has a fake attack mode it can do where it isn't actually intending to kill

I think that the best way to do "scary" in minecraft is to take advantage of something different: your fear that you might NOT be alone.

@@ScrewdriverGaming From the Fog. But even that becomes boring/hilariously unscary at tines.

Dude ... your english is perfect!

all these mfs saying they bad at english and then proceed to write in perfect english is astounding

@@devstorm_ lmao

@@devstorm_”defensive posture” 💀

@@GAMER32231 its good enough man, most mfs in the us cant write for shit

exactly what i thought

Why not just give it a shield cooldown similar to vindicators

@@vtrjnkhole1017 He probably never thought of that, or he wants to slightly wank Cave Dweller because it is his OC.

@@vtrjnkhole1017 this is what i meant

a 1.19.2 port would also be pretty nice since there's more mods than 1.19.3 for it

I approve of that last sentence

Ikr... wait

Dont you dare

Nah you open the fridge and you hear cave1.ogg

Oh hell nahhh

I’m surprised not many people have said anything about that down here 😅

I hope that Gargin learned his lesson by not making his mods public domain after seeing the waves of low-effort asset flips of Gargitron and Cave Dweller.

Wow even one of swayle's mod creators knows the truth about his evilness and maniplutation

Puffs way better

What are you even talking about?? The most played "re-skins" of Gargins dweller aren't even Swayle's. He spends most of his time playing other creator's modified version of the dweller. Which, last time I checked, is free for anyone to download and play.

Probably just hover above the player unless Gargin allowed it to swim.

Wait until they yoink it's ai and place it in their generic scawy ahh model

@@HellCromeE Gargin just needs to not make it open source. Remember what happened to the Steam Workshop when Gargitron released.?

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@snope42 i do not like that idea. What if it is enclosed in an area, dies in lava or on top of any other damaging blocks, or it is in a “grapple” attack?

I disagree, I don't think invincible monsters are as scary, I prefer smart and tough but not invincible, Invincibility is more of a 'rocks fall everyone dies" type trope to be interesting. to take your idea for example, rather than just fleeing and despawning, it could actually use that, and potentially when it flees, let out a scream, which in a way would let smarter players know to take the advantage and chase it, but also let the dweller regain some health. but it could also let out a feint scream early, and break combat to flee, which a player may use as a chance to attack, only for the dweller to use it to ambush a player, If its whole idea is to be a ambush style predator, make it use its abilities to its advantage, it makes it seem like a smart predator, and its not a futile attempt to kill it.

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@@BeingDumb247 my brother it's a joke. Can't you get the joke?

@@Orb_Ponder3r I've never seen such a bad joke, and anyways i see this on almost every video

@@BeingDumb247 cool

@@BeingDumb247dude just ignore it