How Many Amps Do You Need For Home EV Charging?

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How many amps does your home EV charger need? I take a look at the different factors you need to consider when buying a home EV charger to help you figure out how much power you need.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:49 EV charging terminology
06:21 Does the charger come with the car?
08:10 How vehicle efficiency relates to how fast it charges
09:59 The four main questions you need to consider when buying an EV charger
15:01 How many miles of range per hour will EV chargers at different amps add?
19:59 Higher power home charging is better, but it's not always necessary
22:15 Always hire an EV charging equipment specialist to install your EV charger
24:16 Consider future-proofing your garage
25:32 Outro
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 791
@musicjohn1
@musicjohn1 11 місяців тому
Nice work Tom, very informative and explained perfectly. Those of us who live in the EV world sometimes forget how many questions people new to EV's have.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 11 місяців тому
Thank you. This is probably not for many of my loyal followers, it's more for those new to EVs. 🙂
@mattbrew11
@mattbrew11 11 місяців тому
“Those of us who live in the EV world” talk about a deep seated need to get over yourself
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 10 місяців тому
Everyone needs this info. Argued yesterday with an engineer friend. Based on his college learning- 50 years ago- his worst case is that no one can charge at home…
@kardy12
@kardy12 9 місяців тому
I know EV drivers who don’t know the foggiest about the physics of electricity and charging delivery - any more than most ICE drivers know about the mechanics of refuelling. So a video like this is likely very useful for plenty of people who “live in the EV world”.
@Wildsam157
@Wildsam157 8 місяців тому
Those of us who live in the EV bubble 😂😂 I have elevated myself to live in the solar energy bubble,screw these guys who still go to the gas station 😅
@rugbygirlsdadg
@rugbygirlsdadg 7 місяців тому
Just for info, here in the UK (240v power supply), the standard for single phase home chargers is 7.5kW - 32amps. The grid connection
@KangoV
@KangoV 25 днів тому
You go all the way to 24kW. Although this would be the limit of the 100 amp main fuse of your house ;) Luckily I have 3-phase wooooo.
@zeedustrakok
@zeedustrakok 20 днів тому
Over here I have a triple phase 16A connection on 400V. So that is 11KW. Technically My charging point is capable of 32A, but my home connection is 3x20A and my car’s internal charger is limited to 11KW (3x16A).
@joncoutts1671
@joncoutts1671 18 годин тому
11 months late, but this video has been a HUGE help for me understanding how much I should spend on an charger. Thank you, Tom!
@PakCanPTI
@PakCanPTI 4 місяці тому
Electrician my self, can’t explain better than you have. Got many answers. 🙏
@jefsel881
@jefsel881 14 днів тому
Vevor32A variable amperage capable.10-32A..$100. 14-50 plug $15.Running a 32a charger out of a 50a rated plug is fine. #6 copper 3+ground, 2ft out of the panel. 50a breaker $33. All set for an upgrade as well. Cost $150. Plus 3hrs labor. Take shop class kids. Pays dividends year after year.
@theichione1827
@theichione1827 11 місяців тому
One other thing people should consider is if they have “Time of day electric service” it may actually save money in the long run to install at least the fastest EVSE/circuit their EV can support, so that it can reach their preferred state of charge in the cheapest rate window.
@tedmoss
@tedmoss 11 місяців тому
Yes, we have extreme off peak, 11:00Pm to 5AM.
@cleanitup_pls7893
@cleanitup_pls7893 11 місяців тому
Tesla comes with an app so you don't have to buy anything. Just open the app and put in the hours that it can charge. The car decides how much to pull, when to start and when to stop.
@theichione1827
@theichione1827 11 місяців тому
@@cleanitup_pls7893 Some people have a very limited time window set by their power company (I.e. not an app thing) when energy is very cheap but if they have a slow EVSE/circuit and a EV with a large battery, they may find they have to continue charging their vehicle well into pricier time windows to get their EV to the required state of charge.
@dmandman9
@dmandman9 8 місяців тому
@@cleanitup_pls7893So do Fords.
@gary2984234
@gary2984234 8 місяців тому
until everyone gets an ev and charges at that time.. . Hello primetime. @@tedmoss
@shunjieyin2024
@shunjieyin2024 11 місяців тому
Well done Tom. I can always learn something from your videos. It's very informative and explained clearly!
@nilomaia4851
@nilomaia4851 10 місяців тому
Hi Tom, regards from Brazil! I've been following you for a long time now. I work on the solar business and we also offer EV "chargers". Very nice and comprehensible compilation. I was really happy to see the same arguments I use for the actual recharging needs. That means I've learned well from you! Thanks a lot! Keep up the good work!
@drfaizan
@drfaizan 3 місяці тому
Best one stop shop for learning everything EVs. Thanks Tom! there no as comprehensive video as yours available on the net. Thank you for your service!
@kavehhushyar7960
@kavehhushyar7960 6 місяців тому
Tom, god knows how many youtube clips I have seen so far on this subject, and yet your clip was by far the best ever created, explained, and right to the points. I enjoyed it much. Thanks for your contribution.👍
@cjonesplay1
@cjonesplay1 11 місяців тому
Great Video Tom. This is a video I can send to my friends and family. So they can get a good idea of Charging. Keep up the Great Work.
@Chris21709
@Chris21709 11 місяців тому
Great video, Tom. The chart says it all. There isn't very much information on this basic charging technology out there, and it will be an eye-opener for most people (who are not technically schooled), even for people who already own EVs-who will no doubt be advising friends and relatives. This is especially true when most charging stories in the mass media exclusively talk about public charging-the familiar gas-station model. My charging station is on a 30-amp breaker, but using a 40-amp cable to the EVSE; the heavier gauge cable costs only a little more.
@gao57009
@gao57009 11 місяців тому
Very well done. Every potential EV owner needs to watch this!
@americanegale697
@americanegale697 5 місяців тому
Finally someone that knows how to explain. Its called a PROFESSIONAL! Subscribed!
@djkeltn
@djkeltn 10 місяців тому
Thank you. Bought a new plug-in hybrid and the manufacturer provided little info. This is just what I needed. Appreciate you.
@jasonblair4057
@jasonblair4057 11 місяців тому
Excellent timing of this video for me. I am in the process of choosing an EV to replace my X3 in few months and want to have a L2 installed. This is an important topic for people to get educated on. 👍👍
@e-care-books9867
@e-care-books9867 11 місяців тому
Great video, Tom. You are very good at explaining charging for "regular folks."
@happyhippo1710
@happyhippo1710 11 місяців тому
I've been looking for a video like this for awhile. Good job!
@jruggle
@jruggle 11 місяців тому
You do such an outstanding job in all of your videos. I always recommend your channel to anyone who has EV questions. Top notch. Thanks for what you do!
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 11 місяців тому
Thank you!
@rmbmpd
@rmbmpd 11 місяців тому
Great presentation. Very informative. That chart is an extremely useful tool. One just has to look at what your vehicle’s maximum usable capacity to determine what’s the most they would probably need as a worst case and look at 80% of that to see what’s the most they realistically probably would need. For example, the extended battery on a Mustang Mach E has 91 kWh usable. Since they recommend not to go over 80%, then 80% of 91 is 72.8. Since most people would rarely, if ever charge from 0%, the 32 amp output is probably more than enough (it provides 70 kWh over the 10 hours) and the 40 amp usable provided by your Lightning, which provides 85 kWh would be more than sufficient for a Mach E owner.
@arnecarlsson9740
@arnecarlsson9740 11 місяців тому
This great video should be included with every EV sale (or demo)! 👏👏👏!
@jamesrose1191
@jamesrose1191 11 місяців тому
Great video. On the charging esp winter time, I find it best to keep current low so battery is charging all night long. This has the battery warm when you are ready to go. This will allow a little more range when you go. It’s also good to preheat the cabin on the house so your max range for driving with a warm car, seats and wheel also.
@tuan056585
@tuan056585 4 місяці тому
What a good lesson and tips for people like me who are planning to buy an EV car soon! Thanks you very much Tom. I already subscribed, and I hope to see more of your videos like this in near future.
@greglivesey1734
@greglivesey1734 8 місяців тому
This is the explanation I've been searching for. Well done. Thank you.
@chadyee4470
@chadyee4470 11 місяців тому
Absolutely love this video! Great work Tom! Fantastic and easy to understand educational video for new and current EV owners. Charging and the electrical terminology is always confusing for people but you did a great job of making it easy to follow and understand. The chart is fantastic. Education is one of the keys to mass EV adoption. Love it.
@feyree_officialstore
@feyree_officialstore 7 місяців тому
Thank you for your support
@m.tronglu4847
@m.tronglu4847 5 місяців тому
101 I love...too!!
@m3tek44
@m3tek44 11 місяців тому
What you provide here is simple amazing educational vid!!! Thank you for putting this together!
@julianevjourney
@julianevjourney 11 місяців тому
Thanks for making this video. I say that not necessarily for me. I just purchased my first EV in March 2023. Prior to making the switch to an EV I had to do a lot of research on all the topics you covered in this video, especially the topic of things to consider when your home has limited amperage. I think if your video had existed it would have cut down on the amount of research I would have had to do because it's all explained very succinctly and concisely in this one video. So, hopefully, future potential EV owners will greatly benefit from your video.
@phtofl
@phtofl 11 місяців тому
First off, great video Tom! In my research over a year ago, I had these same questions, and steps, and knew I wanted to figure out how much power items take in my house. 12:15 an even better way to understand how much power your house is using is to actually measure it over weeks/months. I got the Emporia Home Energy Monitor, so i can tell how much power my house takes, max Amp/kw draw, etc. It helps in letting your electrician know what your usage actually is rather than just base it off a load calculation. 18:01 Another point when deciding with your electrician what size circuit to install is if your house has conduit, you may be able to just use existing conduit and run new wire to your EVSE. This will save a bit of money to not have to run a new conduit to your garage. This what I did... I already had 1/2" conduit running to my garage that had room in it, so he just wired it with the max size wire (10ga) that will fit into a 1/2" pipe, and a 30 amp circuit, so I can charge at 24amps. So my Emporia Smart EV charger is just set to 24amps. I figured if in emergency i could run to the nearby Supercharger and top off, but I've never had to do that in over 15k miles. Eventually I'd like to get new subpanel installed in my garage, but in the mean time this has been fine and much cheaper.
@alainnoel2198
@alainnoel2198 7 місяців тому
I sincerely want to thank you for the quality of this presentation! I now understand the terminology and functionality of charging operations. Will receive my ioniq5 in a week and will listen to your other presentation in your list about my incoming I5. Thank you
@stevevansak7324
@stevevansak7324 8 місяців тому
I preordered a Volvo EX 30 for my first-ever EV. I’m trying to educate myself ahead of time and figure out what charger will work best for that vehicle as well as my home. Thanks for making these! I’m saving them to a playlist for the 2024 delivery.
@craiggoldstein2461
@craiggoldstein2461 10 місяців тому
I think this is the best educational video a new (Or even experienced) EV owner can view. Well done!
@gregorscott
@gregorscott 5 місяців тому
This video is great for sharing with prospective EV owners! Thanks for making it!
@jamesodell3064
@jamesodell3064 7 місяців тому
I believe that a slow charge is healthier for an EV battery.
@leiflillandt1488
@leiflillandt1488 3 дні тому
Most believe so, but if you look at batteries that often have been fast charged, you can't really see a big difference. As of now, 2024, the age (in years) seems to be the most significant factor. As battery cell technology evolves, it's right now difficult to say what will happen in the future, but we all hope that they will last longer that's more years. Then we have a question that needs to be responded to, what happens when the battery lasts way longer than the rest of the car... 😯🥺😉
@rockycata6078
@rockycata6078 9 місяців тому
In 1988, I expected to have a home/office data-center, so had 300A service installed with 2 panels. It was a new service so added about $1200 for the added amps. Most homes are 150-200A. Good call, about doing higher gauge wiring and industrial sockets. One solid run of wire from the breaker/fuse box to the charger is best since every connection is a unbalanced load that produces heat. Stay safe, and stay charged.
@marccracchiolo4935
@marccracchiolo4935 8 місяців тому
Great presentation thanks for taking the time to educate us because this is coming soon. Can you do a video on the in floor induction charging where you park your car over the charger? These have such potential to simplify home charging
@ambassadorfromreality1125
@ambassadorfromreality1125 27 днів тому
I know a lot about this subject in the uk and was curious about the us. I am writing this comment because I wanted to say what a good job Tom did, explained everything clearly. I am sure it will help a lot of people.
@erictheblue7256
@erictheblue7256 5 місяців тому
A very informative video: Thank you! I'm 1-2 years out from the purchase of my first EV, but it's good to start thinking about the wiring requirements now.
@aussietaipan8700
@aussietaipan8700 6 місяців тому
When I purchased my 2015 model S in March this year, I also purchased 2 x Tesla power walls. The power walls were both installed on dedicated 40 amp, 230V circuits. The model S was factory restricted to AC charge at 16 amps, so I had the onboard charger modified to charge at 32 amps. This is perfect for me and the way I use the car. I also have mobile 8 and 13.5 amp chargers to trickle charge when the model S is not in use. At my livin house, the power wall installation was $1200 for the dedicated circuit and $750 for the PW, all up about 2K. My other house was $750 for the PW and $450 for the DC as it was much easier to install the DC at my holiday house. I live in Australia.
@charleshelvey577
@charleshelvey577 7 місяців тому
Good session. I started with Niro EV - max it could do was 7.2kw, but I put in a 50 amp circuit anyway. I did use the 14-50 but didn't know about the "industrial grade" socket so I will definitely change that! The Kia was charged with a charge point set to 32 amps. Both the charger and the Niro were sold to my daughter when I got my Lightning Lariat, I have not rewired yet, but using the included Ford Charger (comes with large battery option) I set the dip switch to 40 amps and wired a pigtail 14-50 plug into it. So far, like you said, this is adequate for the driving I do. I have plans to run wire for 100amp. I save some money by doing much of the wire running myself, then have a licensed electrician come in and connect to the breaker and charger. Most of the reason for doing the 100amp would be to eventually support the home power option of the F150, but I don't have the money for the Sunrun inverter system for home power backup. One thing you may want to mention with your chart - some vehicles cannot accept all levels of charge. I tested the lightning with a J+ charger and the TT30 adapter; the truck must have seen 110 volt and only charged at 12 amps when the 30 amp 110-volt socket could handle 24amps. If it could have used 24amps that would have helped greatly at some campgrounds (2x standard outlet). The portable charger that comes with the lightning works great at campgrounds with 14-50 sockets, giving 7.2kw rate.
@whattheschmidt
@whattheschmidt 7 місяців тому
Well said and thought out, great information. I did a service upgrade when I installed solar and put my old 100 amp panel in the garage as my subpanel! Garage is set for this century :)
@pinballdan
@pinballdan 6 місяців тому
Using your old panel as a subpanel is pure genius that is awesome
@pasoroblesbruce7370
@pasoroblesbruce7370 11 місяців тому
Wonderful presentation. Great electrical info for any electrical application not just for Ev’s.
@dgmcginty
@dgmcginty 10 місяців тому
Well done on how to find what is needed and when. We are 5 years into EV ownership. So far level 1 charging has worked well in two locations. We average a bit over 50 miles per day and its mostly local. We keep our car max charge at 80% and normally do not go below 40% SOC. But it took time to learn how to live with these cars. Just like our gas cars, we would run them from 100% full to about 25% , our range was about 75% of total. On Longer trips and using SuperCharging we range between 5% and 80%
@michaelsanders2822
@michaelsanders2822 11 місяців тому
Tom this is the best video I have seen on this topic for new users.
@Erik0914
@Erik0914 11 місяців тому
This was an excellent discussion to inform home owners about requirements they should consider. Looking at it from the neighborhood supplied by a utility, there needs to be coordination with the utility because a neighborhood circuit can be overloaded just like your home can. Some utilities also charge by the KW demand a customer may use during any 15 minute period during the month, possibly $20/KW for example. Commercial customers see this more however increased capacity of utility circuits must be considered. The utility may love to see the increased load and sales however upgrades may be needed.
@naturalbynecessity4197
@naturalbynecessity4197 Місяць тому
Excellent and thorough video. I’m a new EV owner and you’ve taken all the anxiety and stress out of figuring out the charging debacle. I was ready to return my EV because there were no DC charges close to my home. I drive 65 miles a day for work and need more than the 1kw trickle I’m getting now. Thank you for making this easy to comprehend.😅
@wesbishop3790
@wesbishop3790 8 місяців тому
Awesome info Tom, I’m an electrical engineer and I agree that it’s best to over build when it comes to the circuit and EVSE. I’m new at the EV game and still learning stuff every day. One suggestion I would make is to include one other electrical property called, “resistance”. Unwanted resistance can equate to inefficiency. Example: My idea was to use a 50 amp circuit (I’m limited because I live in a condominium) which dictates 6 gauge electrical wire and a EVSE designed for 40 amps. The EVSE I bought was a Wallbox 40 amp unit which is a very popular brand. But what I learned is the Wallbox 40 amp unit only uses 10 gauge wires for the 25 foot EV service cable. I noticed when I charged my vehicle, the cable would get very warm to touch. The smaller the wire, the more “resistance” creates heat loss which in turn loses money in the long term. I’ve decided to change to an EVSE designed for 48 amps and dial it back to 40. My hope is the new unit will have a larger gauge service cable and run very cool. For those who may be confused about my numbers, the lower the number, the larger the wire. Hence 10 gauge (10AWG) is smaller than 6 gauge (6AWG). Most manufacturers don’t mention the gauge wire used in the service cables. It would be great if you added those figures when you review the different EVSE units. Thank you and keep up the great work!
@feyree_officialstore
@feyree_officialstore 7 місяців тому
Hello, 10AWG is only suitable for 32A chargers, 40A chargers require 8AWG, and 50A chargers require 6AWG
@RB-xv4si
@RB-xv4si 6 місяців тому
What is the terminal temperature rating of a Tesla Wall Connector based on your interpretation of NEC 110.14(C)(1)(a)?
@carlnelson9162
@carlnelson9162 6 місяців тому
You should read through the install guide for the Chargepoint Flex. The guide tells you the circuit rating for each charging amperage. For a 48amp load, you need a 60 amp circuit. Wire size for a 60 amp varies depending on the style of the wire. THHN wires can take the highest because they are not bundled so heat can more easily dissipate. Problem is they then need to be in conduit. For my 48amp install (60amp circuit), i had electrician run #4romex from 60amp breaker to cutoff switch above my charger. He then ran #6 THHN in conduit a short distance to my charger. My Homeflex charger cable feels warm at 48amp but it isn’t hot.
@Blayzn18
@Blayzn18 Місяць тому
Thanks for the video. This was the information I needed to install my EV "charger". Definitely going to future proof my install.
@TaylorAverdick
@TaylorAverdick 8 місяців тому
Something that is worth mentioning is power loss during transmission. It sounds silly, but it really adds up. 120-v charging has around 40% transmission loss due to heat! Nearly half your power is just GONE. As you increase the amperage, that rate goes down. So it might make sense to get a higher amperage charger even if you don't need it to save money on transmission losses over time.
@pasoroblesbruce7370
@pasoroblesbruce7370 6 місяців тому
Great presentation. With you and the out of speck guys, so much helpful and entertaining info. Thanks
@alanpeterson6768
@alanpeterson6768 7 місяців тому
Really good video. When I try to explain this stuff to people I get stuck on "where do I start?" Oversize with adjustable output is great advice. I have an old 32amp charger that is on its third EV. At the time I bought it, that was pretty good sized EVSE. With my PHEV, it was really overkill. Then along came our Bolt as our second car, and it was plenty. Now, with an Ioniq 5 as our only car, it still gives me an overnight charge easily and reliably.
@twodogsandtheirfamily
@twodogsandtheirfamily 11 місяців тому
We went with a pair of 48A Charpoint chargers to be future proof for the next few years at least (well before the NACS announcements). I usually recommend a 48A/60A circuit for most people if they can afford it and if it works. That will allow some of the greatest flexibility. On our Bolt, we get just shy of 40 miles per hour of charging.
@richardhale2117
@richardhale2117 11 місяців тому
Great explanatory video. Answered all my questions.
@johnreese3762
@johnreese3762 9 місяців тому
Very well done Tom, great video/information!!!
@DCPHONEGUY
@DCPHONEGUY 8 місяців тому
A really great video, very informative and well explained.
@melissaresnick6482
@melissaresnick6482 9 місяців тому
This was incredibly helpful! Thank you!
@briancolly2990
@briancolly2990 7 місяців тому
I've owned my EV for over a year now. This has been the best video re: this topic. Well done and very informative.
@brady9214
@brady9214 7 місяців тому
This was extremely helpful overall, and the chart at 15:09 explaining the relationship between breaker amps, evse amps, kw and mi added was exactly what I needed. Thanks!
@Lovetoflyeast
@Lovetoflyeast Місяць тому
Thank you for the best informative video with simple language on ev. great work
@thesells1
@thesells1 11 місяців тому
Charger, smarger. Your detail and delivery are excellent and you demonstrate a sincere desire to inform with clarity.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 11 місяців тому
Thank you.
@user-ff8ju1ee9b
@user-ff8ju1ee9b 11 місяців тому
Great video Tom, I especially like the charging chart.
@thelake9596
@thelake9596 4 місяці тому
Very informative. Thanks and keep’em coming.
@billklatte7536
@billklatte7536 10 місяців тому
Another great video by you Tom. Thanks.
@derylhunt4494
@derylhunt4494 11 місяців тому
Great job Tom, like always very informative
@ricksimmons9054
@ricksimmons9054 10 місяців тому
Really informative. I jumped and installed a 32 amp charger when my wife got her Mini Se last year, which I now know was overkill. It all worked out though, as it's a perfect size to share with my 2024 Polestar 2, which should be arriving in August.
@flyingspirit3549
@flyingspirit3549 3 місяці тому
Superb, comprehensive essay on a crucial EV topic, especially for those considering buying their first EV.
@GraysonA
@GraysonA 8 місяців тому
Is there any benefit to charge at lower amperage, for example 24A vs. 40A, on at 50A circuit (14-50 plug)?
@jimji2774
@jimji2774 11 місяців тому
Mr. Your subject matter may be limited but you might be making one of the best done and informative videos on UKposts thank you.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 11 місяців тому
Thank you!
@MrH786
@MrH786 6 місяців тому
That chart at 15:00 was very helpful. Thanks. 👍
@tonydeleon5029
@tonydeleon5029 9 місяців тому
I am so glad you made this video. I don't own an electric vehicle yet, but I am thinking of installing a tesla level 2 smart charger before purchasing a vehicle. Now I will choose to install a 240w dedicated outlet for a second vehicle. That means 2 dedicated lines and tie them into my solar power smart panel.
@TrainsFerriesFeet
@TrainsFerriesFeet 9 місяців тому
Tom, this is an excellent video for EV novices or 1st time home charging people.
@ericm4840
@ericm4840 9 місяців тому
Great job of breaking it down and making it understandable!
@rgeraldalexander4278
@rgeraldalexander4278 8 місяців тому
So helpful. The 240 volt outlet I use is only 20 amps with oversized copper wire, which is fine for my Chevy Volt hybrid. When my Cybertruck arrives I'll probably be fine going to a hard wired 30 amp setup.
@tercioannunciado1710
@tercioannunciado1710 6 місяців тому
I live in Brazil, your video helped me a lot to define a better wire, thinking in future, today we bought a BYD Dolphin with 7.1 kW wallbox, we are installing a separate 220V, this car accepts 6kW using type 2 and 66kW using CCS , thanks again
@ChristineJump
@ChristineJump 9 місяців тому
Thank you. Finally competent and comprehensive information!
@abrarsherazi4619
@abrarsherazi4619 4 місяці тому
Thanks for giving useful information. Really I appreciate to give us details information.
@marcsill453
@marcsill453 Місяць тому
AWESOME explanation. The EV sellers should pass this link to every buyer. (I can’t tell you how many times I have gotten into this discussion with the EV cautious). I think the fear shuts their hearing off. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ Great video!! 🙌🏼
@MarkusLinnala
@MarkusLinnala 11 місяців тому
Especially good to have terms explanation section. As USA centric, you are missing 3 phase AC charging, very common in European single family homes. After brief lookout, almost all sold chargers (including Tesla wallconnector) here are 3 phase 230V up to 32A 22kW, usually limited 16A 11kW because of car or blackout avoidance.
@Av-fn5wx
@Av-fn5wx 7 місяців тому
One of the most informative vdeos on this topic!!
@rose415
@rose415 9 місяців тому
TY, from an earlier video I took the suggestion and got a 32amp charger. Works fine and nothing gets hot.
@ianpatel1168
@ianpatel1168 7 місяців тому
Very informative video. Thank you Tom
@beautyofgrace3915
@beautyofgrace3915 11 місяців тому
I’m getting an ev soon, I needed this thanks Tom
@dathyr1
@dathyr1 4 місяці тому
Thanks for this video and its valuable information. I had a 220 or 240 volt outlet installed in my garage before I got my 2023 Tesla, and have the basic mobile kit to interface to the vehicle. Being retired, only drive around town so most of my charging of the EV is just at home, and I don't connect to my 220 volt outlet every night. I charge up my vehicle on off peak hours when electricity rates are lower. Works very well so far. Take care.
@ezpoppy55
@ezpoppy55 11 місяців тому
“This may be your first EV, but it won’t be your last EV.” Truth. I got my Tesla M3 SR+ in March, 2021. My wife, an EV doubter, saw the light and dumped her Camry for a VW ID.4 in July of that year. Two years on, and neither one of us is looking back. She’s very excited about the VW Buzz (and I gotta admit, so am I). Regardless of when we get our next EV, neither of us is going back to gross ICE vehicles. Great job on this video, Tom! It’s an excellent primer, and I’ve sent it to some I know who’ve expressed an interest in EVs. Safe travels to all.
@tedmoss
@tedmoss 11 місяців тому
At 80 years old I fully expect my Teslas to be my last cars. Who should I will them to?
@jaimimcentire99
@jaimimcentire99 11 місяців тому
​@@tedmosswhy, me of course. :)
@richdaley9982
@richdaley9982 2 місяці тому
Same situation here. My wife didn’t give a lick about cars until I bought our Bolt EUV. She is completely in love with it and is now asking me my thoughts about trading in our 2017 Volt for a second fully electric vehicle. We are also considering the ID buzz but we are close to being empty nesters so we probably don’t need that much space.
@lkeil84
@lkeil84 6 місяців тому
You covered 99% very well. The only thing I would add is that where I lived in California, you got a real low charging rate between the hours of 11pm and 7 am. This reduced the charging to 8 hours, but as in my case, I left home at 6:15 am and sometimes even earlier cutting down my available hours to charge. This was never a problem because I had a 30 amp (24 amp) and a 20 amp (16 amp) charger available. My car only had a 33kw battery and my wife's PHEV only had a 17kw battery. With this setup, I think we really only used the 30 amp charger 98% of the time and used the small 20 amp charger very rarely. On another note, we had at work 2 chevy volts and a Prius prime that ran for 18 months without any of them using gas off of a single 120 volt receptacle in the parking garage. Our needs were light being in San Francisco and only driving 10-15 miles a day. I would set them all to charge at 8 amps and use a timer to charge one for 6 hours and then the other for 6 hours every night. The third one was my Volt that I would plug in during the day as I was mostly office based. I had to set them at 8 amps because occasionally somebody would plug in one level down and take 12 amps during the day. It was a difficult feat but I did keep 3 PHEV's from the gas station with a single receptacle for 18 moths.
@nomenetasaili8598
@nomenetasaili8598 28 днів тому
Came here to see hoa many amps needed. Left with a whole lotta of usefual information to boot. Thanks a lot.
@barryw9473
@barryw9473 11 місяців тому
Thanks, Tom. It is more accurate to refer to volts as pressure (force is close), but not speed. Current is volumetric flow, more akin to speed than pressure or volts.
@Chris21709
@Chris21709 11 місяців тому
Exactly, but try to explain electrical potential to someone (not a physicist or engineer). 🙄
@andrewlawrence7589
@andrewlawrence7589 11 місяців тому
Great video Tom very nicely done.
@bradleyanderson4315
@bradleyanderson4315 11 місяців тому
When you live in a hurricane zone, it's handy to be able to charge up at the house while you are putting up window boards and packing the car.But you don't have forever to dawdle. I settled for 40 amp ClipperCreek as an optimum between reasonable speed and cost 2 years ago.
@migmigjohnson9351
@migmigjohnson9351 3 місяці тому
Very good info. I'm also a big fan of your earlier work. Can you say "Those pajamas are impossible!"? It cracks me up every time.
@philipsutcliffe6014
@philipsutcliffe6014 8 місяців тому
That was a great video, full of useful facts and explanations, plenty of hints and very good tips all delivered at a level non electrically educated folks can understand and absorb, and the best advice, 'Don't go the cheap route'.
@martshearer498
@martshearer498 11 місяців тому
Thanks for a very thorough review, which should be a continual reference. My only concern is that more emphasis should be placed on continuous use circuits only being set at 80% of breaker capacity. A 40 amp circuit should only be used for a 32 amp or lower EVSE, for example.
@feyree_officialstore
@feyree_officialstore 7 місяців тому
Yes, what you said is very correct. The maximum power of the charger cannot exceed 80% of the circuit breaker, usually controlled at 50%
@sparkysho-ze7nm
@sparkysho-ze7nm 3 місяці тому
Any electrician dat don’t derate Issa Plummer wannabe
@johncipolletti5611
@johncipolletti5611 7 місяців тому
If you buy a friendly EV, a Toyotal Prius or Chevy Bolt, you can charge on a 110 home outlet. You can also use a 220 one.
@user-cn4yf5gu6d
@user-cn4yf5gu6d 7 місяців тому
Very well done. Every potential EV owner needs to watch this!. Very well done. Every potential EV owner needs to watch this!.
@mattwolters7030
@mattwolters7030 10 місяців тому
Very useful information. Thanks for explaining how all this works.
@gbsorenson
@gbsorenson 11 місяців тому
I agree that we all get too worried about charging speeds, especially when you get your first EV. We only have 20 amp service to our detached garage, so uprading to higher service would have been expensive. I had a Wallbox installed, dip switch set it to max at 16 amp. We've had our EV for about a year now and only once has the charging speed been an issue, and that was because my wife had two "longer" trips in one day. I also put in a 48 amp Emporia at my office, which is only 1/4 mile away from our house, so if we need a faster charge we have another option.
@StefanSteinerWA
@StefanSteinerWA 10 місяців тому
This is exactly my experience too. I have a 20-amp 120v outlet in my garage too. I have the 5-20 adapter for the Tesla mobile charger and use that. My Model Y charges then at 16 amps too. I’ve been using this setup for the past year. Only once have I had to hit a SC before going on a number of errands around town due to coming back from a long trip late at night and having around 10% SOC. By early morning when I left I had 30% which wasn’t enough. I’m amazed to read about people who spend thousands to get updated panels and high amp circuits added for charging. I could see it if you have to commute 100 miles per day with no charging at work but most of these people seem to mostly just putter around town. I did like going from 15-amp to the 20-amp setup. The 20-30% boost does help.
@onelesho3199
@onelesho3199 9 місяців тому
This rule states that an OCPD can be loaded to only 80% of its rating for continuous loads.
@mikethompson3534
@mikethompson3534 4 місяці тому
Bottom line EVs are not worth the extra money and headaches with costs , range and insurance rates for your home and I don’t even want to talk about maintenance costs of the battery pack if ever you’re battery pack gets damaged from road debris and road vibration or to replace the battery when they no longer cannot be charged due to age and also collision damage costs from your automobile insurance
@alleyoop5185
@alleyoop5185 3 місяці тому
@@mikethompson3534thermal runaway is potentially right under your butt or in garage while charging. Luckily it’s not real common now but wondering how much more it’ll be if essentially 95% more users will be when ICE is outlawed. And how in the world will the grid handle this especially when the gas furnace and gas stove are outlawed. We’d definitely need a lot more nuclear plants and/or coal fueled plants.
@salacarh
@salacarh 15 днів тому
Thanks for posting, I learned a lot today..
@graemecarswell2528
@graemecarswell2528 Місяць тому
Thanks for the very informative video. I learnt a lot from you.
@anthonydeloach805
@anthonydeloach805 8 місяців тому
I love this guy's explanation. So clear.
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney
@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 8 місяців тому
Glad you think so!
@trustbuster23
@trustbuster23 11 місяців тому
This is all good advice. Personally, I put in a 50 amp circuit and paired it with a 32 amp max EVSE. The circuit needs to be future proof, but the EVSE can be sized to your current needs. You are going to wear out your EVSE eventually by dragging the wire across the concrete, plugging and unplugging it every day, etc. I figured out that there was essentially no scenario where it would be critically important to me to charge my current vehicle at 40 amps vs 32 overnight. So I saved a bit of money on the cost of the EVSE, I have an extra margin of safety on the circuit, I'm being more gentle with my batteries by not charging them as fast as possible, and I've given up nothing for it. Do your own homework, but charging as quickly as possible at home is not nearly as important as most people think it is. Fast charging matters on road trips, but at home it makes little difference if your car is done charging at 3AM or at 6AM if you almost never leave home before 7AM.
@tedmoss
@tedmoss 11 місяців тому
All true, charging at 48 Amps will not deteriorate the battery to any great extent vs. 40 Amps since you are not going over the "C" rating.
@Jeddin
@Jeddin 11 місяців тому
@@tedmoss no but it does cause more heat and wear down your home electrical components more over time. I keep my 50 amp circuit limited to 32 amps even tho it could be 40. I don’t need the extra amps and it’s worth protecting my circuit breaker and home wiring
@ab-tf5fl
@ab-tf5fl 11 місяців тому
Agree, but with one exception. In the event that you wake up the morning of a long trip and realize that you forgot to plug in the night before, the speed of home charging actually does matter. But, even then, it's not a huge deal. Worst case, forgetting to plug in means you have to stop at a public charger on the way back and spend an extra 10 minutes.
@rickyluu2281
@rickyluu2281 10 місяців тому
Great explanation! My electrician said my main panel cannot pull 50 amps for my model 3 via mobile charger. It sorta is pointless to use 50 amps since it caps out at 32 amps with mobile charger any way. As you mentioned, we have to account for how much we drive and the cost. I realized 30 amps is all I need without having to upgrade my main panel. Now it works and I am getting 24 miles an hour to my Model 3.
@JeanPierreWhite
@JeanPierreWhite 8 місяців тому
There are a lot of misconceptions about EV charging and electricians are just as susceptible to getting it wrong as we are. It's all new stuff. Tom's video cuts through the FUD.
@dansanger5340
@dansanger5340 11 місяців тому
My ID4 is capable of charging at 48 amps, but I am getting by quite comfortably on the 16 amp charger I bought years ago for my Chevy Volt plug-in hybrid. It can be slow, sometimes taking over ten hours to get me back to 80%, but it's never been a problem. And, I've never been tempted to spend the money to upgrade the wiring and charger.
@stephenj280
@stephenj280 11 місяців тому
My experience too. I had a readily available 20A circuit so I decided to use it instead of having to fish cable from the panel for a 50A circuit. So far the EVSE set at 16A works for our purposes.
@JeanPierreWhite
@JeanPierreWhite 8 місяців тому
Same here. Charging an ID.4 at 16 amps is just fine. It charges while we sleep.
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