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@PuyoPuyoMan4 роки тому
So I mentioned this video to my father: "I'm watching a video on telephone phreaking", and his first question was: "did he mention a guy named Captain Crunch? I had math with him" Small world huh
@tanglelover4 роки тому
Whoz, that's so cool!
@andrive4 роки тому
Cool
@nithpro13854 роки тому
wow what a cowincedence
@Nolroa4 роки тому
Wow.
@faokie4 роки тому
@@tanglelover No, Woz was a different guy
@truthsmiles4 роки тому
“None of the questions were audible” Pro-tip for anyone taking questions from an audience: Repeat the question. Not just for recordings but for the rest of the audience who couldn’t hear it.
@downscale4 роки тому
Excellent Tip indeed.
@MrGoatflakes4 роки тому
Yes, but better to have some one walk around with a mic and hand it to person that asks the question. Can't believe this isn't the norm in recorded lectures...
@truthsmiles4 роки тому
MrGoatflakes - I respectfully disagree. When the speaker repeats the question the audience gets to hear it in the same voice they’re used to, and it also serves as a “check” to make sure the speaker understood the question.
@MrGoatflakes4 роки тому
@@truthsmiles true
@rmbassett584 роки тому
This is also a Pro-Tip for college teachers. When the old foreign lady or the super quiet kid asks a question, nobody in the back half can hear whats going on
@DarrellGrainger3 роки тому
One thing he didn't mention was calling someone right back. I found out if you prank call the operator and hang up, they can ring you right back. I figured out how that worked. One day, a female friend from high school had some creep calling her and breathing heavy. She didn't know what to do and told me at school. One day we are at her place and the creep called. I wrote to her to keep him on the line for a few seconds. I then picked up an extension and in a deep voice said, "Thank you miss. We have traced the call and know where he is." The guy hung up. I used the tone to call right back. I told the guy we were the police, we had traced the call, knew where he was and would be sending a squad car around shortly. He was panicking and crying. We told him if he was truly sorry and never did it again, we'd let him off this time. He never called back. haha.
@zyad48Рік тому
Incredible
@MLife1000Рік тому
Brilliant 👏
@morenauerРік тому
Epic if true. Amazing.
@MrWolfSnackРік тому
*69 - You dial that and it redials the last number that called you even when you do not know that number.
@rchaykovskiyРік тому
@@MrWolfSnack nice
@mdoyle19813 роки тому
In the early days of phreaking there was a blind kid with perfect pitch and he could whistle his own tones perfectly without using any boxes.
@Axel2303 роки тому
A few comments up some guy said he could sing his home phone number ... Could this be the legendary blind kid with perfect pitch?
@arthurkurtz24483 роки тому
There were newspaper accounts (about the blind young man who could perfectly mimic these tones) where he was interviewed and his photograph appeared. He was a bit of a celebrity in the day.
@JenXOfficialEDM3 роки тому
Oh man, I did that also. I called a 1-800 number for the Kool-Aid Wacky Warehouse and hummed tunes to tell the system my ZIP code. Now the Wacky Warehouse is nothing more than an abandoned factory in Kankakee, Illinois. The perfect pitch talent has helped me as a musician.
@pinomarino89173 роки тому
You’re referring to Joe “Joybubbles” Engressia.
@filter4now3 роки тому
@@pinomarino8917 Joybubbles was the first hacker so to speak? I heard rumors that he actually did some time but had quite a few friends who appreciated his skills (true, I don't know)
@fitnesswithsteve4 роки тому
2019: I have unlimited long distance and I don’t call anyone
@sirkastic4 роки тому
Cool story bro
@respt464 роки тому
Haha, what a story mark
@Omar-em7rl4 роки тому
i liked the part where he said " I have unlimited long distance and I don’t call anyone"
@DuoDynamo4 роки тому
@CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG He's likely referring to the fact that, since nobody in the internet can be belived 100% due to anonimity, it's easier to pass off everything that you read on the internet as false.
@FlintG4 роки тому
Yeah who makes phone calls anymore? Only reason I still do is to my relatives lol.
@cageybee72214 роки тому
black box for file transfer: phone company: "this phone has been ringing for an extremely long time....."
@SAV1754 роки тому
Hello Stalin.))
@danielpierz2703 роки тому
Lol
@CyBeRTRoNFLuX3 роки тому
hahahahaha
@choosetolivefree3 роки тому
Ah, the 80's. The age when computer networks were growing, and had no security whatsoever.
@thewewguy8t882 роки тому
yeah pretty much i mean i wont lie it feels like the stone age compared to today lol.
@ShawnJonesHellion2 роки тому
an when they tried we could just take their software from them an become the security
@FIDEL_CASHFLOW_2 роки тому
Even on into the early 90s. I remember we had Windows 95 or 98 on the home computer and my dad was a computer consultant so he was at least concerned with a tiny bit of safety but still didn't know much in that regard, he was mostly on the business side. Anyways, he set up user profiles for myself and my siblings with no admin privileges and then an account for himself with complete control. If I wanted to install a game I wasn't able to because I lacked admin privileges. One day I was looking around on the login screen and there was a button at the bottom I hadn't really noticed that said "copy profile". This button allowed me to copy my dad's profile into a new profile complete with the admin privileges and then log into it with my own password. Eventually I found out how to log into that profile and then install any game that I wanted onto the desktop for only my regular profile and then I would delete the admin profile afterwards so my dad didn't see it.
@SH-rs6ow2 роки тому
We still have that, it's called IoT :p
@CaseyShontz2 роки тому
@@FIDEL_CASHFLOW_ wow, that’s pretty creative. It’s sometimes surprising what kids can come up with so they can get around their parents restrictions 😂
@expensivefreeadvice8530Рік тому
Made a blue box from scratch in the 70's after a ridiculous amount of research when instead I should have been studying Maxwell's equations. Took many attempts to get the tones right, but then to my delight, my girlfriend in Newport RI answered her dorm phone. Felt like superman. That first batch of electronics was bigger than a shoebox. Then, made version 2, which was hand held size and ran on 2 9V batteries. No computers, just analog circuits and bunch of red push button switches. Brought it to college parties and everyone would take turns calling home for free in disbelief. "But we don't have a touchtone phone here..." Didn't matter, I could call anywhere from any phone. Then, figured out I could hack into overseas senders and do stupid things like get the time in Sydney Australia or the weather in London. Buddy and me would cram into an off the beaten path phone booth to perform these antics just in case "they" were on to me. I didn't want to implicate anyone's home phone. They caught me anyways... Cops let me go, but that ended my phone phreaking career as it was pretty dumb to risk arrest for a $4 phone call. Was indeed big phun.
@lartensgrill6106Рік тому
Quite some adventures!
@tyc4231Рік тому
How'd you get caught?
@blk986Рік тому
@@tyc4231 Wondering the same
@mikeburch2998Рік тому
Well done! I wish I had friends like you back then. Getting this technical information at the time was very difficult.
@raygamma3611 місяців тому
Are you "Tom Edison"? 🤔 Did you know Stan Wanorski? (sp?)
@@MrPikachuTheMadman are you trying to get me in trouble??
@rtwice935554 роки тому
Interesting stuff. I could have used this when I was younger. When I met my girlfriend in 1979 she lived in Santa Ana, California and I lived in the high desert. I was 14 at the time and had a job throwing news papers which meant I always had a pocket full of quarters. I remember walking to the gas station about a mile away to use their pay phone to call my new love. For 80 cents we could talk for 10 minutes. It never seemed long enough to me. Today it blows my mind to see 14 year olds carrying $400 smartphones and the parents paying a monthly service for those kids. You realize what I could have done with that kind of money when I was 14? By the way, 40 years later, the girl that cost me 80 cents a night to talk to is now my wife of 36 years.
@ThatCrazyGamerz4 роки тому
Your Pocket Mechanic amazing
@RandyMarsh-uc6sw4 роки тому
Your story made me happy thank you..
@Jojje944 роки тому
What a nice wholesome story. Thanks for sharing
@amb3cog4 роки тому
You made me smile twice. First with the $400 phone. Lol I've seen kids with $1000 phones, and more. I've also seen many a college kid driving a $40,000 plus vehicle. Talking Audi's, and such. And they're usually kind of beaten looking. Dents, and such. Because they didn't pay for it, I'll assume. People seem to lose their mind when it comes to their children sometimes. I'm very happy my Father made me buy my own first car, very happy. He taught me something no amount of money could buy. Second was your story. Very, very cool story. And I'm thinking it's probably a good thing you had to actually pay for those calls. Probably helped build your character, and made your future wife more appreciative of you, and those calls. Either way. Sure glad to hear it all worked out for you two. God Bless you both.
@CHAOSMOVEMENT4 роки тому
I know how you feel. I used to use phone cards at the pay phone, until I was about 14 and read the cookbook. Build the red box and never paid for a call again lol.
@BennoWitter2 роки тому
I discovered a method for certain payphones in Germany in the 90's, where you would press the hook down about halfway. The line would reset and you'd get a dial tone, but the keypad was blocked because the phone thought you'd hung up. The microphone, however, stayed open and you could dial any number using a DTMF generator like the ones that came with answering machines.
@mixalisstathis27411 місяців тому
This was exactly where my phonenumber-dialtone-watch came into play...
@eldiablo379410 місяців тому
I remember in the 1995 movie Hackers starring Angelina Jolie, each hacker had their own specialty hack that they were really good at. The character Ramon Sanchez specialty was payphone phreaking. He carried around a tape recorder with dial tones playing on it and would put it up to the payphone receiver to call other hackers.
@terryjones97843 місяці тому
Remember where I put that thing that time?
@mushroomsamba824 роки тому
"How Telephone Phreaking Worked" or "How David Spent His Youth Ripping Off the Phone Company" 😅
@ArchLinuxTux4 роки тому
But that's what we had for entertainment
@chrishatcher45454 роки тому
He's correct in that It would cost me 50 cents a minute to talk to my Grandmother 8 miles from me Orange County to Los Angeles County vs. me calling 300 miles away to Kingman Arizona. I think it's called fair game back then ;-)
@QuantumMechanic_884 роки тому
He's really young compared to the old farts who are still around .
@TimWochomurka4 роки тому
Problem?
@yafilmDOTcom4 роки тому
@Taren Capel Yup you read my mind. As I was watching this video where he admits to having done this, for a second the idea of him getting into trouble got there but then instantly I through of the statute of limitations (which I think for this "offense" should be 5 years if not 10 years max) has long expired so it didn't matter anymore.
@Adamyup324 роки тому
I like how david smirks after each secret knowing damn well he indulged in all of that " illegal " activity lol.
@RedwoodRhiadra4 роки тому
Oh, he clearly admits it even without the smirk; he says "we" did this, etc.
@sporkeh904 роки тому
didnt we all xD
@chrishatcher45454 роки тому
Only if you were over 18.
@andrive4 роки тому
Lol
@RedwoodRhiadra4 роки тому
I didn't, but even though I'm about the same age, my family couldn't afford a computer until I was a junior in high school, and I didn't have one of my own until halfway through college, by which time none of these things worked. So there really wasn't any chance for me to try them.
@sarahb451311 місяців тому
This brought back memories, thank you. 13:05 Flashback to being a teenager from the 214 zone at Six Flags in Arlington, early 90s. If you met a boy with an 817 number, it was not worth your time, you wouldn’t be able to call him.
@Krmpfpks3 роки тому
To add another story: we did this in Germany too, with tons of different tricks. Funniest one was when one of us who could speak American English called MCI and yelled at them why they changed the calling card test number pretending he keeps testing lines in Germany and they don’t work. The other side replied it’s still 16 times 6 and one seven. This number worked for almost a year for us and we were abusing it heavily. Like in having 20 hour conference calls on those expensive party chat lines.
@occamraiser11 місяців тому
so stealing thousands...... still proud of that?
@JunkCCCP11 місяців тому
@@occamraiser oh no, whole thousands of dollars from Ma Bell 30 years ago
@jasonknight10854 роки тому
I still think it's a historical irony that two phreakers created a computer company that eventually started making telephones.
@MrWolfSnackРік тому
If you're good at what you do, don't do it for free.
@annieworroll43738 місяців тому
Phones they don't let you mess with.
@hadesmcfadden2982Місяць тому
depends on what you're good at@@MrWolfSnack
@markoorlando45324 роки тому
4:07 hearing david say pornographic anime magazine makes me laugh so hard
@guiox4 роки тому
"It's called Hentai, and it's art" - Stanley
@TheLegoman3324 роки тому
"It's called hentai, and it's art"
@glori0usoce4 роки тому
"it's called hentai, and it's art." -Stanley Hudson
@KoopaKid6604 роки тому
I need boobies to live
@Fantasticxbox4 роки тому
I can't wait for the future YTP using it.
@occamsrazor12853 роки тому
7:56 Fun fact; Trunk lines continue to exist in networking. Trunks are the connections between switches. They're much more configurable, but we'd have to start discussing vlans to explain why.
@jacksonjohnson96742 роки тому
yup, n types of lines
@terminator5722 роки тому
What the heck is a vlan
@occamsrazor12852 роки тому
@@terminator572 Virtual LAN. Switch ports can have a vlan tag assigned to them so that any packets that pass through that port get tagged as being on that vlan, and only ports assigned the same vlan tag can communicate. For example; one might tag all the ports to which a stores registers are connect with the tag "POS" (point-of-sale) and so only other registers can talk to other registers. Anything else (like the computers in the back office used for things like email or excel spreadsheets) can't reach the registers. That would be done as a security measure so if that back office machine gets malware on it, a hacker can't use it to reach the registers and steal credit card data.
@aleaalleeРік тому
You just brought back PTSD vietnam memories from when I had to study networking, vlans and vlsm in my I.T degree.
@occamsrazor1285Рік тому
@@aleaallee Haha. I thought that was the most fun part of the Cisco Network Academy.
@cnault32443 роки тому
18:13 "send the police immediately to investigate that pay phone" I'm thinking the police would give this type of thing a very low priority... unless it's the pay phone outside a donut shop.
@JBadAss98Gameing3 роки тому
Nah, Hacking into someones phone line, getting a free call on their expense, and calling the L.A.P.D is quite a few charges to catch actually.
@Dillon69Рік тому
lol
@funniflowРік тому
I could just imagine the police: WHO TRIED TO CALL SOMEONE ON YOU!? Phone: *concerned dial tone*
@MrWolfSnackРік тому
This was the 70s and 80s, if you did that they would be on your ass like flies on shit quicker than you can blink. The reason they do not care now is prioritization of risk assessment. If it's not a serious crime, it's not worth expending that squad unit out on a call for something harmless when there could be a murder come in or a robbery that needs that squad there. Plus companies now have breakage clauses where they purposely overcharge money on things in their budget to account for money losses.
@xXRedTheDragonXxРік тому
I'm not sure this was ever true, but there might be a reason behind the myth. When I was growing up, someone I knew had a "Red Box" and the myth was that if you ever put more than $50 in the payphone, the police would show up because the phone couldn't handle that much money. We tested it, and the number was closer to $100. When we got to $100, the phone still had a dial tone but upon hanging up and picking up the phone again it played a message that was like "This phone requires service and can only make 911 calls". I think the myth probably came from someone hearing "This phone can only make 911 calls" and it meaning that the police were on there way.
@praxxor7184 роки тому
"I was also asked to sign a pornographic anime magazine" Madlasses brought some hentai to sign lmao
@Valery0p54 роки тому
_bad joke incoming_ If the footage was correlated they were probably some madlesbies ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (Probably not since anyone would be able to identify that girl's identity nowdays with image search etc...)
@71bw4 роки тому
@@Valery0p5 I'm not even gonna comment on how big of a fool you just made of yourself saying that.
@respt464 роки тому
I like those too
@Valery0p54 роки тому
@@71bw I'm in another continent so who cares! xD it's not my face the one on the screen
@brago.gameplays4 роки тому
Cosplay is already erotic enough :D
@teilani_ayures4 роки тому
Minor public speaking tip I learned in a class: During Q&A , try to remember to repeat the question so the rest of the audience can hear it through the mic. It solves the problem you had for the video as well as a bonus!
@roxcyn4 роки тому
Good tip, thanks for sharing.
@TravisTev4 роки тому
Yeah, I always appreciate it when they do that. I hate it when the questions are inaudible and they don't repeat it, which means you have no idea what they're answering.
@Michael-zj3cn4 роки тому
Also it's good to scream as loud as possible if not using the mic
@adog3129Рік тому
i wish he had just left the questions in and let me figure out what they asked through context
@LittleDancerByGrace10 місяців тому
This also helps anybody in the audience across the room from the 'question asker' to know what the question was...
@timurtheterrible40623 роки тому
"pornographic anime magazine" That's one way to call it.
@MultiRobotnik2 роки тому
When did you become a far-left extremist?
@timurtheterrible40622 роки тому
@@MultiRobotnik Don't even remember, honestly.
@ratfarmer12 роки тому
@@timurtheterrible4062 based
@probes-e-minor2 роки тому
@@ratfarmer1 You're 🤤
@ratfarmer12 роки тому
@@probes-e-minor what
@Stormgeald2 роки тому
In 1996/97 timeframe I was in the military and we used those MCI cards to call home on the payphones inside of our "dorms" I would lend my code out to others that didn't have one and we stumbled on accident that if you called the number on one payphone and then called the number on another payphone and input your codes at the same time and hung up with one it didn't use any minutes from your card. So I would say about 30 guys probably used one card the entire 6 months I was in technical training so they could call their family's.
@awizardalso4 роки тому
Back in the late 60's, I had a cassette recorder microphone on the speaker end of the handset. I had a friend call me from a pay phone and drop some coins in the phone and I recorded the bell dings. I made another recording duplicating many quarter dings. I would make long distance calls from a pay phone, and when the operator dropped in and said to drop in more money to keep the call going, I just played the recording for the quarter dings. It worked!
@notyetskeletal48094 роки тому
Wow. Now I can't walk down the road without being on camera. Thanks. Oh well we'll all milk the loopholes until dystopia sets in. Thanks for yer story!
@jimm13874 роки тому
I was able to do something similar in the late 90's with a RadioShack mini-cassette recorder. I miss that era of computing.
@bobomob1114 роки тому
@@notyetskeletal4809 Make a necklace and glasses that emit IR light to blind the cameras. It doesn't take much to make your head a white glow. There are still loopholes today.
@damienhartley76394 роки тому
@@jimm1387 I was not born yet back then but I phreak the neighbors wifi sometimes and I consider it protecting them from the hackers.
@fieldsobrietytest44624 роки тому
@@bobomob111 Considering that most modern cameras have an IR filter, that likely wouldn't work.
@joekenorer3 роки тому
When I was a kid I learned about this because I had that Captain Crunch whistle, back then a cheap toy was still a toy, and it was pretty durable so I carried it everywhere. There was a kid in our neighborhood who could sometimes whistle the tone that would cause the dial tone to changeover and we all thought that was cool, but one day he took my Captain Crunch whistle and did just as you described, dialed a toll free number and used the whistle to make it reset. We would stay up entire weekends prank calling random numbers all over the country. I was fascinated, just calling someone a state away was unheard of because of the cost, but we were talking to anyone we wanted to anywhere in the country. It was the coolest thing I had ever seen until I saw a live chatroom. Halcyon years.
@malcolmdrake613710 місяців тому
😂 "...kid in his neighborhood." The story grows.
@crosenblum3 роки тому
Brings back memories of my teenage years, I was no hacker, but I was a bbser, and bbs sysop many times.
@monkey_thedog23693 роки тому
What
@christrahan22293 роки тому
@@monkey_thedog2369 something we did back in the 90s :)
@truckerdave84653 роки тому
Oh man. I discovered BBSes from PrintShop. There was a Brøderbund bbs.
@erichkohl93173 роки тому
Same here. I collected BBS telephone numbers the way some teenagers collected baseball cards.
@rallokkcaz2 роки тому
No the 90s you guys are 12. That was early late 70s and the 80s.
@tomsayen9295Рік тому
Worked for the local telco when I was 19 years old. Accompanied the guy who emptied the coins from pay phones. The bag of coins he took back to the central office always had a lot of pennies shaved down to look and feel like dimes. Another trick learned when I worked at a gas station that had a "business" pay phone: Lift receiver, drop in a nickel, when that nickel has traveled about half way into the coin box, use the receiver to bang the coin return, kind of like a hammer, phone with "ding" twice, we paid a nickel for all local calls. Of course this was 1970s when pay phones were solid metal with "sunflower" dials. You can still see these on old movies and TV shows.
@adog3129Рік тому
tbh shaving down a penny sounds like more than 9¢ worth of work
@FamilyGuyBob4 роки тому
"The only place you'll see darth vader playing the bag pipes while riding a unicycle" Man, they only come out at night. Or in this case, the day.
@gasmice4 роки тому
He's called the Unipiper, and he does the Star Wars theme on the bagpipes. When he's outdoors, he also sometimes has the bagpipes shoot flames.
@jr29044 роки тому
@@gasmice that sounds awesome lol
@AnonymousFreakYT4 роки тому
He is a common sight in Portland.
@handsolo12094 роки тому
Portland used to have Roddy Piper, now it has Unipiper......................
@blueballs19984 роки тому
I think there's multiple videos of him wearing a Sonic one time Mario another time and also Link costume playing video game movies and TV shows theme at multiple different expo & convention?
@Calispeedboi4 роки тому
This was bomb. Would watch a series about old school hacking if you ever made one
@scaper84 роки тому
Oh absolutely. I would completely love that two hour breakdown of all the phreak boxes for example. Old-school hacking is utterly fascinating.
@VashStarwind2 роки тому
3:29 Metal Jesus teaching 8 bit guy how to do the rock on sign is the most wholesome thing I have seen in a while haha
@livefreeprintguns2 роки тому
I always wanted to get into phreaking, but the fact my mom worked her entire life at the phone company (throughout all iterations of Nynex, Bell Atlantic, Verizon, etc...) scared me enough to never do anything lol. I did create a redbox and used it a handful of times at the payphone in my high school's cafeteria in a futile attempt to "impress" girls that had no clue what I was doing or even cared I was getting them free phone calls lol.
@raven4k99810 місяців тому
oh my god Darth Vader playing the bag pipes while riding a unicycle who would have thought🤣
@fuwafuwa22994 роки тому
Who even is weird enough to ask someone to sign a hentai manga
@lordvader3d3 роки тому
Weebs are
@hotaru83093 роки тому
I work security at conventions, all types, and it's very common. It's led to two kinds of signings, the bring what you want or... there's the second kind, where we have to deny anything but the "approved material" or "approved merch[which is sold at the booth, room, or table]" to bring to the signing table, because people will insist on getting someone to sign something they do not feel comfortable signing, usually pornography and "romantic"[read sexually suggestive] items made by fans and vendors who sell fanmade goods. This leads to people calling out actors for not signing certain items and picking it up and slapping it down, or sliding it closer to the artist/creator forcing them to formally decline at which point the fan becomes visably upset, tears, red cheecks, and if not moved swiftly, a voice raises and people behind them start looking to see what's going on, thus making the guest signing at the event even more uncomfortable and in the cases that tend to lead to only allowing items from that table to be signed, the screaming that the creator/ performer is homophobic, transphobic, racist until the security officers must be alerted to remove the fan from the signing hall or convention center, depending on the setup. They may require removal from the premises and ruin the chances for others not only to get their items signed that day, but ever. More and more signers only sign the prepared photos they bring with them and other items are not allowed on the table. It's sad, especially when someone is all dressed up or excited to meet "Scooby-Doo," but there's only a picture of "some guy."
@toomanyaccounts2 роки тому
@@hotaru8309 This shows how mentally ill these so called fans are. Why would a celeb want to sign some homosexual or scat smut that a fan made? Also these so called fans were using the signing as an endorsement of their smut which they then sold on various sites.
@AlexanderBogdanow2 роки тому
@@toomanyaccounts SJWs and the current state of western culture... What do you expect?!
@milesprowerstudios78612 роки тому
@@toomanyaccounts who would sign a Hentai magazine
@Subparanon4 роки тому
Former telecomm engineer here. The reason for the change had less to do with phreaking and more to do with technology. POTS or "plain old telephone system" uses something called circuit switched data. This means that it literally was connecting different phone lines together, doing translations based on dialed digits to figure out which lines to connect etc. Like those old timey operators plugging cables into a jack. The problem was how do you tell the switching center what 2 lines to connect from the phone? All of the information had to be inline on the same line as the voice call, and so they used tones. This is 'in band signalling' because the controls for the line are on the same line used for talking. Eventually though as things started going digital and later moving from circuit switched networks to packet switched networks (like the internet and tcp/ip) we started using out of band signalling. A digital trunk like like a T1 had 24 time slots, allowing 23 calls (assuming no compression is being used) and 1 control line. So all the signaling was done on a single time slot (the dialed digits etc) and the voice call was on a separate time slot. So it no longer relied upon audio tones on the voice line, because the control was done on a completely different line. Eventually many switching centers went fully packet switched and calls are set up and routed using SS7 over IP like SIP protocol, and switched just like any other network traffic.
@bluecollargamer70714 роки тому
Wow blast from the past. I was a "telecom hobbyist" in the early 90s onward. Kinda lost interest when it went to voip. My favourites were trying to figure out what the test numbers in the 99xx - 9999 suffix.
@IdeaBoxful4 роки тому
The marked difference due to voip and digital switching was the improvement in voice quality
@IdeaBoxful4 роки тому
Back during the analog days, oh it was horrible due to noise on long distance calls
@ablationer4 роки тому
What I'm wondering is what about today's landlines? Say I still have my 20 year old phone plugged into the wall, tones and all, does it just emulate the old system, or do the companies still have legacy systems up just for those?
@RowanHawkins4 роки тому
@ablationer About 5 years ago I tried to switch-hook dial a number. Either I was wildly out of practice or that didn't work any more, tones still worked then. In the late 90's they proceedureally fixed payphone line identification putting an end to most international calls being accepted for billing on a pay phone. That would have been an inward dialed number to a payphone a/la/matrix. Those and bridge lines were popular for bookies.
@samsonchan14883 роки тому
Wow, my friends and I did this in 1994. More specifically, my more technically proficient friends (and ones with the first dialup internet) found out how to do this (and other illegal things). They made me “red box” from a “phone “dialer” and other parts ordered from Radio Shack, because I was spending so much money calling my long distance girlfriend. My friends told me to run if I heard strange noises when using it, because the FBI would send the local police due to it being a federal offense to “hack” the phone company. As a poor high school kid, I definitely used it A LOT (until we broke up that is), but every time I used it, I’d look over my shoulders. Never knew how it really worked until now, in 2021, almost 30 years later. 😄 Thank you 🙏
@nomorecheezmehРік тому
@fbi here you go, where's my reward.
@MrWolfSnackРік тому
@@nomorecheezmeh Nice try kid. Learn about statute of limitations.
@agentmuellerРік тому
@@MrWolfSnack I’ll be the judge of that. Infact, I’m sending my agents out promptly.
@Prizm442 місяці тому
"I'll be the judge of that." 😂😂
@SteveKasian3 роки тому
Aaah, the memories. I can't count the number of computers I found with my war dialer, or how many MCI codes I phreaked manually. I would call all over the US, just because I could. I'd call random numbers to Hawaii and other far away places. I remember one time there was a major hurricane slamming into Hawaii, so I called some HI numbers. One of them was a convenience store/market, and I was asking the person what was going on with the weather. They described to me how crazy it was, and it was a thrill for some unknown reason. Phone Man was the program I used to phreak the phone system. I believe it was coded by The Moter City Madman. It wasn't nearly as extensive as Dr. Pepper's prog., but I used my hacked MCI codes to track down MCMM (pretty obvious where he operated out of - Motor City ;-). I finally found him and talked to him on the phone, and he told me how to use all the different color box tones, how the phone system worked, etc. Those were tha days. The good ol' Commodore 64 and Westridge 6420 Automodem - a whole 300 BAUD! Boy, was that FAST at the time! LOL Great memories of a bygone era.
@JabrHawrРік тому
what era was that - e.g. 80s, early 90s etc.? Ignore this/don't disclose if you think that that may incr1m1nate you
@CosmicKangaroo4 роки тому
if someone wants to be real meta, bring an iBook to have him sign
@jameswalker1994 роки тому
And if he wants to be really meta, he'll have a PGP key ready
@paulgraves13924 роки тому
If I wanted to get real-meta, I'd ask him to sign one of Dimebag's guitars.
@AnonymousFreakYT4 роки тому
"Local long distance" being expensive was a thing most places. Here in Oregon back when I was growing up, the whole state was area code 503. Yet Portland had this strange hodge-podge of local vs. local-long distance vs long-long distance. From within the City of Portland, calling some of the suburbs you had to dial 1-503, while other suburbs you didn't. Anything more than about 30 miles away was always long-long distance, though (so the state capital, Salem.) But _from_ the suburbs to the City proper was *NOT* long distance. So my cousin could call me and it was a local call, but if I called him, it was long distance. And calling him in the suburbs was more expensive than calling my grandmother in Seattle. It was a very strange situation, because some suburbs were "cheap long distance" while others were more expensive. It all depended on how that line was connected to my local exchange. In the case of the one cousin, while he had a 503 area code, and he was *FAR* closer to Portland than to any other major city, it turned out that his trunk line went through Boise, Idaho! That was multiple trunk line connections, so it was expensive. Portland to Salem was slightly cheaper, and Portland to Seattle was cheaper still - because there were more trunk lines connecting Portland to Seattle as the two major cities in this part of the country. My dad worked for "the phone company" through its many iterations over the years - working in only two buildings his entire career, never having to "get re-hired," yet his business cards had five different company names on them over the years - AT&T, Pacific Northwest Bell, US West Communications, Qwest, and finally CenturyLink right before he retired. I learned a lot about POTS through him. One fun side effect is that our house had three telephone lines when I was in high school - connected to three different local exchanges! (different prefixes,) because each time a new line was added, a new local exchange had been built closer than the prior ones, but they never removed the old lines. So when DSL came out, my dad got to try all three phone lines to see which one had the best speed. He even managed to choose his line number (the last four,) so he chose to have it match his address (a house my parents still live in, still with the same phone number.) That confused people quite often. "What's your address?" "4321 Main St." "What's your phone number?" "555-4321" "... Wait, is your address 1234 or is your phone number?" "Yes."
@NozomuYume4 роки тому
It's because after the AT&T breakup in 1982, the ILEC (incumbent local exchange carrier) had a monopoly over calls within the LATA (local access and transport area), but not over "long distance" calls between LATAs. Inside your LATA, the local carrier could decide what was a free call and what was a toll call with complete impunity, and there was no competition for pricing for the toll calls. The "ILEC" term didn't even exist at the time, it was only introduced when local phone service competition was introduced in 1996. That's when the model started to break down, and eventually pretty much all US calls became toll-free except for Granny's ILEC home phone that she kept because she didn't know any other way to use a phone.
@DerekLippold4 роки тому
Exactly. That happened when I was a kid too. My dad worked AT&T over a couple iterations to Lucent.
@PhoneLosersofAmerica4 роки тому
A lot of outlying areas around Portland were serviced by GTE instead of U.S. West, so it cost a little extra to call into a different company. Salem and Seattle were both U.S. West. I used to red box from Portland in the 90's and noticed the differences in how much I stole from the various areas.
@misterkite4 роки тому
Yeah, San Diego had local long distance too. I had a list of prefixes that were free to call and would never dial a BBS that wasn't on that prefix list.
@_windows_software_wizard_21364 роки тому
Anonymous Freak You must of had to charge your phone three times while writing this comment story..respect
@EASsirenVids013 роки тому
“And this may be the only place you will ever see Darth Vader riding a unicycle and playing the bagpipes” This is comedy gold
@milesprowerstudios78612 роки тому
I wish I saw someone cosplaying as demoman and demo man playing
@alt02482 роки тому
Also, he's playing the final countdown
@EASsirenVids012 роки тому
@@alt0248 LMAO HE IS
@jonathanguthrie93683 роки тому
The reason you needed to dial a random MCI access code was because MCI would notice if you just tried them sequentially. There was a then famous court case where a guy who got caught doing that.
@thatmatt414 роки тому
Hearing the 8 bit guy say "pornographic anime magazine" makes me laugh so hard
@timthepoolman33133 роки тому
This comment made me stain my pants
@typodoeseverything3 роки тому
Tim the pool man that is wrong on so many levels
@OmarrMcinnis3 роки тому
Pretty much all of anime can be extremely pornographic back then...
@KylesDigitalLab3 роки тому
4:07
@FSXgta3 роки тому
It's called hentai and it's art
@adamsfusion4 роки тому
4:07 "Pornographic Anime Magazine" David is so pure
@NathanChisholm0414 роки тому
He's secretly into Hentai! 😂
@meemee13574 роки тому
I was near them in line... they seemed very nervous... I didn't know it was this, lol
@Valery0p54 роки тому
@@meemee1357 you mean that's the footage of _those_ girls? I hope they knew he was recording LOL
@DoomRater4 роки тому
@@Valery0p5 Can you mind your own fucking business? Stalking someone over the internet by using footage of them to discover their identities is the antithesis of American values.
@Trenchbroom4 роки тому
Purity did not extend to phone phreaking or game piracy BITD it seems...
@SteveBakerIsHere2 роки тому
In England, our version of the Red Box was called "The Electric Sixpence" because it only generated the tone for that specific coin.
@rrai1999Рік тому
Gahhh that's such a funny name!
@c.j.10893 роки тому
I was on the very tail end of this phenomenon, and only really got a few years of experience before the phone networks were all changed. What really surprised me was to learn that the 8-bit guy literally lived a few miles from me. Hell, I might have even war dialed him a few times.
@adog3129Рік тому
honestly the war dialing part seems infinitely more unethical than the stealing part, if you do it in the middle of the night. it wouldn't be a major annoyance to anyone, but the sheer volume of people who would be mildly annoyed by the actions of one person is just messed up.
@danopticon4 роки тому
I still remember the day I independently accidentally discovered dropping a pair of scissors near a telephone’s mouthpiece was just the right frequency to make the phone do peculiar things… 😇
@gabriellanunoffyourbeeswax83673 роки тому
I remember having a keychain device that emulated the dial tone. You would put in the numbers and keep it to the horn and it would dial. It would hold up to 8 phone numbers. So as a kid you would not have to remember the number to call your parents or have a paper with you. Eventually I put in the cheat codes for free calling. Like the pay card numbers and I could use it in the payphone when they started using scratchcards. That was late 80s Early 90s in the Netherlands. Great trip down memory lane. Thank you.
@knuckletherapyserveothersf60923 роки тому
That's an awesome gaming convention. I wish we had one exactly like that one. With all those old school gaming and with those old TV setups. Brings back so many memories. Battles with all my cousins during the summer time . Thanks for the video. I appreciate it.
@PascalvandenBos3 роки тому
i love your presentations, they’re extremely informative and interesting to watch, this is the second time im watching this one right after the one on AST. I hope i can see one live one day!
@gantmj4 роки тому
When I was a kid, we figured out the phone number for the modem that controlled the school's HVAC system by just trying a few numbers surrounding the advertised main school number. No automated war dialing was even necessary.
@danielhetrick34354 роки тому
Did you make the school like super cold or something?
@rickhowe50823 роки тому
@@danielhetrick3435 I'd have cut the A/C in the summer or heat in the winter to get free days off.
@MrHurricaneFloyd3 роки тому
Freeze ALL the pipes.
@blox25423 роки тому
What's HVAC
@Vincent_Sullivan3 роки тому
@@blox2542 Heating, Ventilating, Air Conditioning.
@josephlatona44954 роки тому
I used to do this in the mid 90s when I needed to make a Payphone call from high school. I used a pocket voice recorder from radio shack to capture the tones for putting 1 dollar into the Payphone. Played it back and BAM! Free phone call. Lol. Miss those days 😢
@dons81223 роки тому
watched a little to much Hackers didn't you.
@r6u356une56ney3 роки тому
Grayboxing. So named because the radio shack recorders were usually gray.
@worldweeklynewz58183 роки тому
Yeah the better technology and cell phones is not near as cool as carrying a recording of quarters being inserted into a payphone. Ewww and don't get me going on the I phone or Droid with all the knowledge in the world at the tip of your finger in your pocket on something smaller than said recorder. Stupid tech!!
@SteveKasian3 роки тому
@@dons8122
@SteveKasian3 роки тому
@@r6u356une56ney Archer ~~~>
@anthrobugРік тому
I had an Novation (? ) AppleCat II modem back then, it was not only able to generate all of these tones - it also was able to detect busy signals, voice, rings, etc. Basically, it was the perfect war-dialer in the late 70s/early 80s. And at a time of 300 baud modems, it could handle a one-way ( single duplex ) transfer at 1200baud. Very, very useful back then ;)
@jayl8783 роки тому
I'd love to go to that convention. I remember having my BBS learning all of this stuff. I was only 11-13 when I was into it but could still get free LD from people w/ call forwarding systems when I was in college. I'm so glad that I found this channel.
@unclecreepy41853 роки тому
There’s a scene in the Chevy Chase film “Funny Farm” where he’s trying call from his home and the operator comes on to tell him to insert 25¢ and he’s trying to tell her it’s not a pay phone. So then he’s dropping quarters into a glass jar to make her think he’s adding money.
@miked94662 роки тому
Ha ha I owned that movie. The house had many different things that annoys him and his wife, then the town seems to be full of nut jobs. The operator new it was him calling every time, as he tried many silly things that never made sense.
@yvrelna4 роки тому
In RetroCon: "Everything I'm talking about is obsolete." Well if what you're talking about isn't obsolete, you are probably in the wrong place.
@VentShop4 роки тому
Yep, some third world countries still use the type of system that has went out of usage in the US and other more populated/upgraded countries. I wish I had access to this information when I was growing up though. I was always the geek but I didn't have any access to other people to get the information.
@yvrelna4 роки тому
@@VentShop Yes, like the Magstripe or the Imperial units. When will the rest of the world catch up to these great US inventions?
@qstunrr4 роки тому
John Ventshop hahaha pretty exact same here
@deusexaethera4 роки тому
@@yvrelna: The US didn't invent Imperial units, those were invented by England and France. (probably Spain too. basically every empire had their own measurement system.) The US adopted the English version, for obvious reasons. But nowadays, while the US respects the old ways and continues using Imperial units, the rest of the world has switched to Rebel...er, _Metric_ units.
@terrenceryan87734 роки тому
No, if you're at "RetroCon", and what you're talking about is obsolete, you're probably in exactly the *right* place!!
@silencethequiet3 роки тому
holy moly 4:12 mans on the right has a screen built in to his torso!
@barryhernandez6428Рік тому
I remember back then the guys that had the little black boxes the tone generators. To most of us they were viewed as some type of electronic geniuses.
@Schattiz4 роки тому
In -91 when I was at summer camp, one of my american friends (I'm Swedish) used a whistle to make long distance calls. Never knew how it worked or how he figured it out. But I was very impressed atm. :) Thanks David for clearing this up!
@andrive4 роки тому
This is cool
@-_IT_-4 роки тому
91? I doubt he was using a whistle. That method was being fazed out in the 80's by phone companies.
@southjerseysound73404 роки тому
@@-_IT_- You could fool payphones well into the late 90's in many places. The big cities upgraded first but small towns etc didn't upgrade switchboards until later.
@TimWochomurka4 роки тому
@@southjerseysound7340 you could find payphones in Toronto in 2005 that red boxing worked on.
@Jackpkmn4 роки тому
@@southjerseysound7340 To this day the original building my small hometown had its manual switch board in still stands and holds the telephone exchange. Including the bricked over windows from when operators used to sit inside with the plugs. It's funny looking at it on google maps today.
@jinjysbro4 роки тому
when he starts talking about Dallas his Texas accent comes out
@hihaveaniceday93864 роки тому
Accent ??
@darsure30064 роки тому
@@hihaveaniceday9386 It's subtle but his Texas drawl definitely comes out when he talks about his home town, it's awesome. David is great.
@hihaveaniceday93864 роки тому
@@darsure3006 I don't hear it thats why I was asking
@booperdooperproductions25454 роки тому
@@darsure3006 Funny. I actually come from Dallas, and live in Austin currently, but have no Texan accent whatsoever. I’m actually terrible at trying to talk like that when I try to.
@cats4003 роки тому
Most Texans consider Dallas to be "southern Oklahoma". Dallas is more LA-ish than Austin, imo.
@phantom216293 роки тому
This was an awesome age. I was in middle school when I figured this out. By the time I was in high school I bought one of those small pocket recorders from radio shack and recorded all the coin drops and long distance tone. Never paid for a payphone call again. Long distance was a pain for me because I lived right on the county line so a lot of my friends were long distance calls but were within walking distance. Good times.
@leechjim80233 місяці тому
Thank God for unlimited cell plans!😁
@channel59803 роки тому
3:57 the AVGN signature stands out LMAO
@trreb14 роки тому
I had a friend with me one Halloween night when we were about 14 yrs old and I told him I could call anyone I wanted from the corner of a corn field just down from our houses. He thought I was lying. We went to the corner to a phone pole and I removed the little round cover on the side of the pole. Took my dads antique lineman's phone out, hooked up the 2 clips and said who do we call? He said I don't know so I called the operator and asked to be connected to the L.A.P.D. The lady that answered on the other end was cool about it. I told her I was calling from a corn field in Michigan and wanted to say Happy Halloween to someone on the west coast but I didn't know anyone out there so I called them. I knew she started tracing the call. We stayed on the line until we saw the police coming down the road and took off thru the corn field back to my house. We had a lot of fun back then. We found out later that the neighbor who's line we hooked to couldn't figure out how he got billed for a call to L.A.P.D. LOL
@pschiptunes643 роки тому
Damn, that’s cool.
@Videocipher3 роки тому
What year was this?
@GCMS3 роки тому
Nice try LAPD
@SynZ7773 роки тому
Hopefully the statue of limitations ran out on that lol.
@BananaPhoPhilly3 роки тому
@@SynZ777 Which statue? David? :D
@MasterGeekMX4 роки тому
David: I went to Portland Me: *that is the home of the Unipiper* David: Darth vader on a monocycle playing the bagpipe Me: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
@lilith58654 роки тому
Literally me
@AOClaus4 роки тому
Seems like people were having terrible identifying when he played Sonic.
@edsworkouts64604 роки тому
And it shoots fire sometimes. I've seen him in a few videos.
@PendragonDaGreat4 роки тому
Some people really like to "Keep Portland Weird"
@MortonSeinfeld4 роки тому
The invention of bagpipes and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
@Malryth3 роки тому
Nice video. Brings back some good memories. I did see a copy of that computer program you were demonstrating. However, my only foray into Phreaking was a trick a kid showed me with pay phones. No tech required. You knocked the receiver part of the phone against something hard to loosen the end (I forget now if it was the listening part or the talking part). All we were doing once it was unscrewed was touching the metal receiver cradle (which was metal), with the inner "metal" part of the exposed receiver. That simulated closing the circuit, which was all the quarter did in those older pay phones. Good for local calls (up here in Ontario a quarter got you unlimited talk time as long as it was local).
@adamthethird47533 роки тому
This makes me so happy. Thanks a ton from someone who has remote nostalgia for a time he wasn't even alive during.
@gamewizardks4 роки тому
"Here's a few hundred quarters, call someone who cares."
@evandoorbell42784 роки тому
In 1981 I built a "war dialer" which DID listen to the line and COULD detect more than just modem tones. When "War Games" (later) came out , I felt like I'd been outed :-) You can hear my "war dialer" in the first "Early 80s" program on my UKposts channel
@seraphina9854 роки тому
Wasn't born until 85 so wasn't around to try something like that on the hardware at the time but would have thought that human and machine produced sounds would be distinctive enough to pull off a crude turing test by looking at the way tone and amplitude changes between samples. Perhaps I'm overestimating the capabilities of the hardware but would have thought a crude comparison of samples could differentiate the sharp tone and amplitude variations of machines of the time from the smooth transitions of human speech no? I guess it would be harder with acoustic modems due to background noise but I thought that direct connection modems for dedicated dial in systems already existed by then I've even seen one still in use as late as 2010 during my consulting work that had a direct modem, apparently banks can take if it ain't broke don't fix it a little too far only reason why they called us in to consult on an upgrade was that they had apparently been unable to maintain their buffer of spare parts, I know shocking right that they would run out on the market? lol but from their records the system in question was installed back in 1982 and it had a direct modem on it, forget what the speed of it was though it wasn't much single digit kbaud I think.
@cmandrell4 роки тому
i put a link to your library on here some where big fan
@SolarDrew4 роки тому
Evan Doorbell I did the same. Then I used it to continually dial a girlfriend that wouldn’t stop dialing my phone.
@katzunjammer4 роки тому
when i was at school in 1994 at my friend's house , his brother hacked a sex-chat line we heard someone phoning up to talk to a woman, he pretended he was a girl and talked the guy off as we listened and he then broke into a mans voice at the end. It was funny but desturbing at the same time. We were in the UK and the man on the phone was american.. so my freinds brother must have had his knowledge of this information from america... it was my only experience with hackers... i dont knwo much about computers.
@LegoEngineer0033 роки тому
katzunjammer I unintentionally found a way to break that site on mobile; press down on multiple at a time and one will get stuck playing. The effect can be done with any button and the sound can stack. I have a headache from the static now.
@esquared50643 роки тому
Once in college, we made the mistake of giving out one of the MCI codes we phreaked. A few weeks later a local news story reported someone getting hit with a 10 figure long distance bill with all the calls originating from a certain dorm on campus. Luckily not our dorm though! But we were really phreaking out!
@nockradqkdak79923 роки тому
what happened p tp them
@adog3129Рік тому
@@nockradqkdak7992 death penalty
@occamraiser11 місяців тому
That's simply not true. 10 digits is $1 Billion. Just do the maths for the number of hours of connection to whatever you like.
@matthewcox7985Рік тому
I remember when the whole of South Carolina was area code 803, and long distance dialing was required between cities... When I was in college in the early-mid 1990s, the university had their own phone system. You didn't have to dial a prefix to call someone else on campus, so if you wanted to call the dorm front desk, dial 3388. 0 got you an operator, 9 would get an outside line to call off campus. I'm told that some smaller towns used to have this feature, where you could call anyone in the same prefix by dialing just the last four digits. Many pay phones were owned by private companies, and they had their own operators. Since declined collect calls are not charged, you could actually send a short, routine message for free with that operator's help. Call the operator and ask to place a collect call, give a fake name. The name is a code phrase, Butch Workman = "I'm done at work, come get me", George Pullman = "I have a ride home", Bill Corrigan = "Come get me from the airport." When the person you're calling picks up, they decline. You hang up after this. This worked better with automated operators, like MCI or AT&T.
@markofexcellence52094 роки тому
Back in the day when people could go to large events together
@HaswellCore3 роки тому
watching those crowds makes me feel uncomfortable
@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge3 роки тому
Back in the day? Chill dude it hasn't even been a year yet.
@jblps3 роки тому
@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge Seeing his comment with "6 months ago" really bummed me out
@unknownsamn71143 роки тому
Back in the days when this comment was written when Corona wasn't even harmfull...
@Tailz3033 роки тому
@@unknownsamn7114 trust me, the "8 months ago" is worse.
@omargoodman29993 роки тому
Quarter: 5 beeps Dime: 2 beeps Nickel: 1 beep It's just one beep per 5 cents
@OriginalSmoothOperator2 роки тому
I was expecting him to show the pennies in a jelly jar scene from Funny Farm when he referenced that part. :)
@micksbiggestfan40062 роки тому
Nice presentation. I still have my boxes and a original Capt'n crunch whistle that I spied in a box at a garage sale. Oh the days of unblocked scanners and other mods....shout out to 2600 magazine. Peace all.
@LucasIsHereYT9 місяців тому
Texas has 10 different area codes for one metropolitan area while my home of Nebraska has just two for the whole state. 402 for the CST area, 531 for the GMT area.
@shatteredgod694 роки тому
*70s:* I'll break the law to get a free call. *2k19 has free calls and texts:* doesn't talk to anyone.
@annother33504 роки тому
Yeh, but you rinse the shit out of that 'modem'
@faithm.1734 роки тому
Not free, see the ads relevant to you?
@GeorgiaRidgerunner4 роки тому
Same here have phone service and long distance I use the phone maybe 3 times a month and long distance maybe 20 times since I had a cell phone
@SherrifOfNottingham4 роки тому
The average Google user's data is worth about 17k a year. Why are we paying for internet?
@faithm.1734 роки тому
@Shadow Banned exactly, nothing's free 🙃
@freeculture3 роки тому
There was another reason for "piracy" in the 80ies. Those of us living in less fortunate countries just did not have access to foreign imports (which included software). So even when you made a tremendous effort to obtain a (foreign) personal computer, you had no where to get software from, only friends. There was no internet. Later a few BBS did pop up we could dial and obtain a few things from, but that was already late 80ies. Even books to learn programming were hard to come by, very frustrating. The telephone system in my country did not use in band signaling like the American, heck it didn't even use tones it was still pulse and you could "fool" a certain type of payphone or phone (physical) lock that would be attached to the rotary dial #1 so you would only receive but not make calls. The pulses could be made by quickly hanging/unhanging rapidly the number of times for each number without bothering with the rotary.
@xmlthegreat3 роки тому
That... Actually makes so much sense. Although my country probably had a tone system by the time I was born, I forgot that at one point only pulses controlled the electro mechanical switching equipment in exchanges and the like.
@alfsmith49363 роки тому
Your story reminded me, when I was younger I lived in a shared house. The landlord made us use prepaid cards for the phone. I worked out that if you lifted the receiver and repeatedly tapped the switch to hang up, fast, the card system was bypassed. He went nuts when he got his phonebill and everyone in the house had been calling premium rate porno lines for a laugh. :)
@zachw25382 роки тому
I believe the repeated hangup trick you mentioned was shown in a mid 90's movie called "Hackers" kinda realistic but not really at the same time.
@mikegarland4500Рік тому
I was prohibited from buying many games as a kid, as the computer was for education only. I still bought some with my own money, but at 12 yrs old, I couldn't get to many stores that sold software without having an adult take me. File copying with friends was the only significant source I had for tons of games that I otherwise would have missed out on.
@alexmcd3782 роки тому
My granny had a rotary phone. I discovered I could dial faster by tapping out the numbers on the cradle. Push the peg down just enough and it seems the same click the rotary dial sent. It was like tapping Morse code.
@technophantРік тому
I could do the same but numbers over 5 often didn’t come out right.
@pawekonstruktor15132 роки тому
The 8-Bit Guy, we definitely need part number two. Maybe you should even make a playlist on phreaking. That is amazing.
@Gamerroemer4 роки тому
"and i was also asked to sign a porngraphic anime magazine" and it was that day The 8-Bit Guy discovered what hentai was
@Milamberinx4 роки тому
"Why I do declare, this young lady has her ankles on show! My word!"
@hexyoutubeaccount4 роки тому
8-Bit guy spends this whole video explaining how him and his friends pirated files in the 80’s over phone lines. Using phreaking techniques to connect to other people’s modems on the other side of the world for free. The man been knew what hentai is. Probably for longer than I’ve been alive.
@eustache_dauger4 роки тому
It's called hentai, and it's art.
@TheMrRuttazzo4 роки тому
@@Milamberinx "In olden days, a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking. but now god knows, anything goes!"
@YoMinecraft3 роки тому
Anyone from Portland knows that is not the only place you can see a man in a Darth Vader mask riding a unicycle playing the bagpipes
@blaze9000g2 роки тому
true
@saisubdivision39412 роки тому
Or a waluigi making his way downtown
@WhiplashPresents2 роки тому
the thing that makes it way better is that he’s playing the final countdown
@saisubdivision39412 роки тому
@@WhiplashPresents it’s the final countdown
@nootaboot70422 роки тому
yeah i don't doubt you
@v101damnations2 роки тому
I think this is my favorite video of yours. I have revisited it a couple times not just because of the content, but because it has a wonderful display of community; something I have missed during these trying times.
@wiggitywhitefox2 роки тому
Man I was chuckling throughout this many times meanwhile that crowd was about as alive as a brick wall. Keep it up I’m 27 and found this very interesting and funny at many times
@Prizm442 місяці тому
That's probably because David was mic'd and the crowd wasn't. Those microphones are designed to only pick up a close voice. It's the same with any live event where they don't specifically record room noise. Always makes it seem like a tough crowd.
@leomdk9394 роки тому
i had never heard of 'phreaking' before and so I read the title as, "How the telephone freaking WORKED" i was ... a bit confused.
@drewgates11673 роки тому
Poor zoomer.
@leomdk9393 роки тому
@@drewgates1167 I've been "ok boomer'd" before and now you're "ok zoomer"ing me? People need to make up their damn minds about how they want to stereotype me. Anyway, you're both wrong, I'm 39, so I am either an older Millennial or a younger Gen-X or perhaps even a Xennial, depending on who you ask, and I prefer Boomers and Boomer culture, so you're even wronger than they are.
@drewgates11673 роки тому
@@leomdk939 i am sorry for your sad childhood. I am also a xennial.
@leomdk9393 роки тому
@@drewgates1167 If your childhood joy was centered around prank phone calls then I think you should maybe reconsider which one of us had the sad childhood. ;)
@drewgates11673 роки тому
@@leomdk939 pranking does not necessarily need phreaking. You just wasted 1's and 0's.
@FerHivore4 роки тому
I love how every cosplayer thought you were taking photos.
@Mishkafofer4 роки тому
well he did but in 30fps.
@SianaGearz4 роки тому
@@Mishkafofer You mean 30phps.
@goeland45854 роки тому
@@SianaGearz ... That's the joke you're going with?
@garfstiglz39813 роки тому
Loved this presentation. I was born in 1960 so it bought back many good memories of my childhood and teen years.
@chasesmay72372 роки тому
This was such a great video. It was just a half step before my time so I grew up hearing about phreaking but never really knew the applications beyond phone calls. I guess black cable boxes were the next iterative step in a way
@Calthecool4 роки тому
I like how your videos haven’t aged, all of them from the last 4 years could be made on the same day.
@FortoFight4 роки тому
He made them all one day 4 years ago, stay woke.
@Calthecool4 роки тому
ULOIRAR U right
@OnkelPeters4 роки тому
The timelessness of yesteryear.
@PrinssiFO4 роки тому
Digital videos don't age as fast as analog ones, but still 4 years isn't enough time for a tape to show signs of age, unless you play it back too frequently.
@lilith58654 роки тому
@@FortoFight lmao
@blackcitroenlove3 роки тому
I remember learning my home phone number by singing the DTMF tones as I heard them. Didn't know about Asperger and was diagnosed two years ago, at 36.
@rebelrailz.3 роки тому
My significant-other has Asperger's, too. I think he was diagnosed when he was pretty young.
@KenSharp3 роки тому
@@rebelrailz. Absolutely fascinating.
@slowfuse3 роки тому
tbf if you are watching this channel there is a 50/50 chance you have the Sperg
@stevejquest3 роки тому
I clicked 👍 for a fellow Aspie, however I don't believe you could ever successfully reproduce dual tone signals with your mouth, with both tones oscillating at the exact frequency. 😊
@--..__3 роки тому
@@stevejquest actually our voices are usually dual tone, that's what formants are :) still difficult or near impossible tho. I agree
@Datan0deРік тому
I had a tone generator program for my C-64 back in the day that did blue box, pink noise, etc. I knew that it was for phone phreaking, but had no idea what to do with any of it. This, all of my software piracy involved meeting up with friends with a shoebox full of floppies and using a bit nibbler. Great times!
@ProfessorJayTee3 роки тому
Been there. Participated in this. Friends were busted, and I and some others avoided being busted for this. (Long enough ago that the statutes of limitations will almost certainly have kicked in.) Turning yourself into an operator, as recognized by the phone system, was especially neat, as it allowed unlimited long-distance calling. There was some awesome software for generating phone system control tones to do that. But our group frowned upon using it to turn off someone's phone line completely, as some other groups had been doing.
@HughJeffreys4 роки тому
Wow thats amazing, thanks for sharing. Wasn't around in the 70s or 80s so this was very interesting, learned heaps. David you have great knowledge and everything was well explained.
@darkrazorgames87423 роки тому
Hi
@KrolKaz3 роки тому
80s were an amazing time to be alive, especially in the USA with its expanding economy and high standard of living when compared to literally anywhere else in the world. I'm guessing you weren't even born then or else you wouldn't say that.
@therealtampadude91753 роки тому
@@KrolKaz Yup...the '80s were awesome...it was the best decade for music and movies, hands down.
@AHD21053 роки тому
@@TheLordOfNothing IKR..my friends and I used to listen to 70s music or heavy metal which was more like rock back then. Won't buy anything from that era..everything was cheap n nasty.
@weseld13 роки тому
@@KrolKaz I don't know about the "Lord of Nothing" but I was born in the 40s, not the 80s, and I think the 80s were great!
@brankerroberts33604 роки тому
My man signed a doujinshi, I'm done lmao
@Jellylamps3 роки тому
He signed a doujin, a doujinshi is actually what the author is called
@agentorange64413 роки тому
The Friend of Many Squirrels he should sign a doujinshi next !
@Jellylamps3 роки тому
agent orange ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@tabernaclejones61153 роки тому
I mean he said pornographic anime. Doesn't it have to be fan made to be doujinishi
@lemon_skunk_42063 роки тому
@@tabernaclejones6115 nah, doujin basically just means self published, so doujin doesn't have to be pornographic, it's just that it more often than not is. (can be just an original work, not exclusively a fan project of an already established thing)
@Bdub19523 роки тому
Shout out to the guy who introduced me to phone phreaking back in '68, Dennie Teresi (now Dennis Terry).
@Auspiciius2 роки тому
Wonderful presentation. Very captivating. I am surprised at how ignorant I was before viewing this video of how the telephone system worked at that time. Great content.
@CarlScripter4 роки тому
I'm so glad I ran into you and got a selfie... That makes it three years in a row!!!
@JoeMitchell24 роки тому
This video would’ve been super helpful when I was writing my thesis on the early days of hacking, which required a huge amount of research and exposition on phreaking. Most people “know” about hacking (though a vast majority of those people are the type who think it can be done more quickly when two people team up on one keyboard) but almost no one really remembers phone phreaking. I attribute this to the aging-out of the folks who remember an analog tone-driven phone system from the population and the folks who *do* remember such a thing not knowing about phreaking, forgetting, or dying off. A couple of the people who read the paper recognized things from their youth and remarked that they had been completely unaware of both these techniques and the subculture, but that they had to some extent understood parts of the phone system structure like tone control and party line infrastructure. There’s a great deal to be learned about our technological history which connects back to phreaking - like how the Yippie movement was directly connected to it. They were formed as the Youth International Party Line, or YIPL, which is (arguably) why they became known as the Yippies - there’s dispute as to where the name comes from. Most sources agree however that the “party line” portion was a double-entendre (I think that’s the right word) which was referencing the party lines that phreaks used to hang out in. Their newsletter (titled “The Youth International Party Line, later changed to the Technology Assistance Program or TAP) focused HEAVILY on distributing phreaking methods as broadly as possible, partially because the folks involved were dedicated phreaks, but also because those less interested in phreaking WERE interested in screwing over the phone company and the US government, which worked together to collect a tax on phone calls which was seen as supporting the Vietnam War. This was just one in a long list of pretty valid complaints including a collaboration between the Bell System and the government to record millions of calls basically automatically when it was suspected a Box was being used, which prior to the PATRIOT Act was the largest domestic spying operation ever carried out in the US. Even most people who truly *know* hacking aren’t aware that some of the earliest hacktivism was part of the protest against the war in Vietnam which involved distributing information about how to make free calls to normies, much less the other intensely fascinating history of phreaking. Thank you for helping. Someday I’d like to do the kinds of things you do. I need to learn to be a better researcher first, though. I’m sure that I got a few things totally wrong in my paper, and probably even in this comment. It was a history degree, and I’m pretty sure everyone who read it was just like “ok, the source seems to be saying this, so even if I have zero idea what he’s talking about I just gotta go with it.” I hope as more people my age and younger become historians, the profession will become much more technologically aware - but we are losing so much history very day because it isn’t recorded anywhere, and by the time History as a profession starts to document early and immediately pre-computer-age history and the way it shaped our modern world, we will have forgotten a great deal of it. My paper was an attempt to fight back against that, in some small way. It did not do much, and it is likely that no one will ever read it again and that most who did read it have forgotten almost everything in it, but it’s something I’m proud of and I don’t have much of that in my life.
@last8084 роки тому
Hey that was a cool mini history on some early phreaking thanks for writing that! Any chance I could read your paper? What year did you write your paper? There was always 2600 Magazine (est. '84) or the Phrack ezine (est '85). There was another print zine... something 411 about phreaking but I can't remember anymore. And a million text files out there. 2600 is still going and Phrack hasn't updated since 2016 but people can still read old issues at phrack.org.
@jakesabo9543 роки тому
tl,dr no hate tho, bet it was cool
@panwarhappy93683 роки тому
So you decided to write down your whole thesis on UKposts comment 🤣
@JoeMitchell23 роки тому
GATE IES oh my lord, if you thought that was long you should’ve seen the first draft of the actual thing. My advisor had to *repeatedly* remind me of the maximum word & page count. Not minimum, MAXIMUM. Despite actually missing the deadline by a couple of hours, I was still only able to get it to a hundred words or so over the limit. I have a problem. I am aware.
@xmlthegreat3 роки тому
@@JoeMitchell2 hey would love to read your thesis, specially since I had a miserable experience working mine during covid times.
@DrPhanster3 роки тому
Ohhhhhh man, this takes me back. I'm subscribing and hoping there's video's on BBS' too!
@Hubris22 роки тому
There were other hacks as well - if you could take over a voicemail box you could record a message like "Yes operator I'll accept the charges" - and then call the operator for a long-distance call that was charged to another number - which was the voicemail box that would happily announce it would accept the charges.
@leektah3544 роки тому
You should have mentioned the blind phone phreaks back in the day who could simply whistle tones into the phone.
@jsihavealotofplaylists4 роки тому
Sounds unreal!
@richlaue4 роки тому
Probably not true since two tones had to be whistled at the same time.
@FACTBOT_50004 роки тому
Didn't Dan Aykroyd do that in a movie?
@lordmikethegreat4 роки тому
@@FACTBOT_5000 Spies Like Us, I believe....
@FACTBOT_50004 роки тому
@@lordmikethegreat I just figured it out. The movie is *Couch Trip* from 1988. He makes a device out of an ambulance pager that he can use as a phone he dials with his voice, and uses it to escape a mental institution. Very funny.
@javierortiz824 роки тому
You make a great point that I've trying people to get for years now: a pirated game isn't an unfulfilled sale.
@omikronweapon4 роки тому
doesn't really apply anymore though. back in the day there was maybe one shop that had a few floppies in the back of the store. My buddy actually had like five double barreled floppy boxes full of pirated amiga games his uncle arranged for him. My games came from a adult neighbour. That's honestly the only way me and my friends knew to even GET games. Never saw them in stores. Nowadays you can order them anywhere. And we all have jobs or parents to beg for games for presents. Bottomline, if you honestly didn't have a dime, it's a somewhat valid excuse. But "I've got a job, but this game's price is just bullshit, they should be glad I'm at least PLAYING it", that doesn't cut it.
@lochinvar004654 роки тому
That was really the point that showed that the "piracy" that producers were complaining about was a bit of an over-reach. The same applies to movies. "pirating" a movie or game that you wouldn't have gotten otherwise is not a "lost sale" as they try to claim.
@jonathaningram81574 роки тому
Now we don’t have that excuse with steam and really good games for only a few bucks.
@peterdvornik4 роки тому
@The Honkening why would you play a mediocre game for 10 hours?
@MarkLada4 роки тому
My uncle worked at a local computer shop back in the day.. He used to copy all the Commodore 64 and Amiga games for me and my brother.. We had a 5 drawer filing cabinet packed full of floppy disk.. I still have a C64, Amiga 500, Amiga 1000, and all the games for them stuffed in the back of a closet at my parents house.. I need to dig them out and see if they still work.. They've been in there since the mid 90's..
@user-gc4dc5jy3n3 роки тому
Your channel is awesome. I enjoy this and techmoan alot. Thanks alot 😎
@OGdadpool2 роки тому
I wasn't old enough to be into phone phreaking but I knew of it and was always curious how and why it worked. Great explanation. Now... if I ever time travel, I'm all set for phone calls for a few decades.