This makes Joe Rogan interviews look like an amateur

Peace, Islam is the truth. Read the Qur'an

@@randyfuentes4201 I mean yes and no. Almost apples and oranges. Formal interviewing? Yes. But Joe is a much more laid back host and he excels at making his guests just as laid back. I mean damn how many people have gotten in a little trouble for saying something on Rogan?

as a engineer why dont you or anyone else ever give credit to John Ericsson, a swedish inventor/enigeer ! I may be biased because he is from the same small town as me,but he ( USS Monitor) was a very important part of the north winning

Wonder what Razorfist thinks of this? @TheRageaholic

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This is a fact I was surprised to learn a few years ago. He really was the greatest president the US has ever had.

Honestly the way this guys was using revisionism , Lincoln might as well been

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Actually that wasn't real. It was a documentary by Werner Herzog. The real Vampirical, Historical standard is the reality TV show Abraham Lincoln with Daniel Day Lewis starting as himself Abraham Lincoln.

Those are the best conversations when you don’t agree but have a compromise

No offense but it seems to me like this guy has some problematic biases. In my opinion anyway.

I had him as a professor too. Are you a badger alum?

@@lauterbath22 yes indeed! I think I had him 2009 maybe? So almost but not quite 15 years ago. It was a fun semester because our small group discussion TA quit or had something come up, so professor Suri led our discussions too. He was a great guy. After that class I used to run into him around campus and he always made time to chat and catch up.

Were you in his class to pursue a BA in History?

Grant is among the greatest Americans, period. Great comment Spooky.

The Ku Klux Klan wasn’t crushed by any governmental department man. After they scared off or killed the politicians they wanted gone they just disbanded it themselves.

​@martybaggenmusic maybe, wasn't his administration horribly corrupt though?

Alcoholism = self medicating undiagnosed trauma. No doubt Grant had a bit.

He also wanted to be a mathematics professor, and was disappointed when he arrived at West Point to find it still open. He then served with valour during the Mexican war, where that cool ass image of him you always see in movies where he side saddled his horse actually DID happen. He later underwent extreme poverty, and wrote his memoirs in the last few weeks of his life in order to leave his family money. The dude was extraordinary, and vastly more tolerant, intelligent, loyal, patriotic and mentally tough than Robert E. Lee ever was. He's constantly slandered by Neo-Confederates, who overrate Robert E. Lee massively. There were far more greater and interesting generals in the CSA than Lee, even if their views on slavery were abhorrent.

Oy vey!

Yeah, thank god my mother's Portuguese and thinks along these morbid lines; made sure YEARS ago to put the house in the children's names in trust so that, god forbid, we're not tied up in some bullshit for years trying to figure out who has what. That's basically the bulk of their estate, so good on them for planning ahead.

I was actually waiting for the paid advertising promo to come in.

Hence Juneteenth.

@@alejandrinahs that has nothing to do with Juneteenth. Most people who celebrate Juneteenth don't even know what it means.

@@Ozark-nq9uu it has everything to do with it

Ended in North Carolina I think when Joe Johnston surrendered

@@jasonweitzel4393 try actually picking up a history book and read it. It literally has absolutely nothing to do with Juneteenth. But to educate you Juneteenth is the day that news of the emancipation proclamation reached the farthest southern point of Texas and therefore all of the confederacy. That's literally all it is. Nothing more. Which the emancipation proclamation didn't guarantee anything and only applied to the south so even after the war the slaves in the North were still SOL. In fact northern.slave owners were exempt from both that and the 13th amendment and were allowed to keep their slaves until death of either the slave or the owner, though you weren't allowed to buy or sell slaves anymore. News flash this information is not only in history books, but also widely reported in the newspapers of the time.

He also had a vastly more populated and wealthy country. The south was extremely poor and sparse by comparison. It's honestly a miracle they did as well as they did.

@@TheBerylknight the south was actually one of the richest regions in the world

@@kevlive6434 The south was actually extremely poor when compared to the north. We're not talking about the world. It was a Civil War, and it was a war between the North and the South. How it compared to other regions of the world is irrelevant.

In your textbooks they were called the Union Army, but Confederates and Southerners referred to them as the Federals in their journals... 😉 History is written by the Victors!

​@@kevlive6434 The South was rich compared to who? Certainly not the North. They lost because they did not have the economic might to sustain the war despite fighting like it was an existential contest.

Apparently, he was a functional alcoholic.

right? surprised it only took a couple years

Also think about Winston Churchill he led a major country through WW2. One of the most effective drunks of all time.

Alcoholics > potheads

@@Trajan3 lol hey there are some famous potheads like Shakespeare. I think there is like a tolerance gene that passes down and makes for very efficient drug takers.

@MudPig6110 Right. I think if Lincoln would’ve lived he would’ve been even better to the south than Johnson. Paraphrasing here but didn’t Lincoln say about Jefferson Davis “as long as I don’t know where he is, let him be” or something similar. This guy is acting like there would’ve been trials for war crimes and hangings of southern leaders and I just don’t see that happening from a guy who was still calling these men brothers. Maybe he wouldn’t have let them back into power but he would’ve still given the power to the southern people in general and the reconstruction wouldn’t have been nearly as harsh as it was IMO. I can get behind even great leaders having a contingency plan but Andrew Johnson was the plan. He was hard headed and a friend to the southern people. He wasn’t a good leader nor if this was any other time in history would he have been but Lincoln needed someone to help him win the election and make himself look like he wanted to reunite the union because he actually did want to reunite the union and most northerners wanted to see the south pay for the war and everything that happened while Lincoln understood that if that happened it would just sow the seeds of a future rebellion/secession. Lincoln understood that the war took so much from both sides already and it was already asking a lot of these men to admit defeat and agree to come back after all they had lost. He also understood that the union wasn’t totally blameless for the war either and for the country to be truly united again both sides would need to work together. No one else would’ve stood in the governments way when they tried to be even harsher to the south than Johnson which makes me think Lincoln knew exactly what he was doing lol

Yeaa okay that's why the whole south is free more so than any other north state right now and better living and cost less to live!! And can have our constitutional rights still in the south also So ur yup you are wrong and were taught wrong

@@chris-cy5ed The South is statistically still behind the whole country in education and median income. In otherwords, keeping people oppressed for long periods of time, as the Southern states did through slavery and then through Jim Crow limited their potential capacity for economic growth. Take it down to the level of your corner market, if only whites can use it then you limit the amount of customers you have, your profit, and the disposable income you generate. So you are less likely to be able to go into other ventures or to enrich your own family through being able to afford more things like better education, a nicer house, cars, etc... You also limit the amount of buying power in the community if only one class of people can have better paying jobs. Compound that decade over decade and that's why the South's economic growth trails much of the rest of the country.

@@chris-cy5ed cost of living being higher means there’s a higher demand to live in the north than the south. That’s not the burn you think it is. Also the south is home of dry counties and where you’ll be thrown away in a cage for holding onto a plant. Muh freedom

@@chris-cy5ed Get triggered snowflake.

Check out Harry Turtledove's "The Guns of the South". Probably isn't exactly what you're looking for but he technically lives haha. Its actually a really good story though (and no im not a confederate sympathizer).

The Rebel Flag would've still been flying in the south despite them losing

Along the same lines...same could be asked about Kennedy.

@@brandonselitetv1436 Probably, it's ingrained in peoples sense of culture from a very young age, which creates a self replicating meme. But very very few people who raise that flag actually hold the values it originally represented. Your average Billy Bob doesn't really support Slavery and when I last lived in the South I saw alot of black folks waving it around as well. It's as much a counter culture based on a mythological version of history as it is a historical national shame. The same symbol can mean different things to different people.

@@academision Thanks for the recommendation :)

Read up on the “historical present”. English took it from histories written in Latin many centuries ago.

I mean writers do that while telling a story. All the scripts are written in present tense. It's to make you feel involved I suppose. As if it's happening in real time.

Yeah they always love to overlook how many immigrant conscripts died in place of Boston brahmins' sons, and weren't too happy about it (resulting in draft riots all over the north).

Wouldn't want to upset the naacp or the woke machine. Whites are the bad guys remember. Except it was whites who freed the blacks not blacks but don't worry about that little inconvenient fact

Somethings never change. It’s always the poor people generally going to the front lines.

Its always great to hear someone so well-educated use terms like "white america" when all white americans were immigrants just like the Irish and many poor all the same.

@@johnnyripple8972McDonalds and Uber Eats are the new US front lines.

Healing a wound one causes isn't noble.

@@cult_of_odin if you say so?

I think the criticism was a bad critique. It comes off as Lincoln had the choice and could have expressed someone other that his vice president. That simply is not true.

@@claytoncourtney1309 I think this historian is suggesting Johnson was a bad pick as VP to begin with not that Lincoln could have bypassed his veep in case something happened to him. Constitution makes succession pretty clear.

@@claytoncourtney1309 I agree. Politics often limits what you can and cannot choose. In that day the VP was not chosen as it is now.

Basically. It was a purely political stunt

No it freed run away slaves in the north from the bounty hunters, but many bounty hunters ignored it & continued hunting slaves

@@JosephAdams93 Sorry, which were the rebellious territories? You are right about the year. Antietam was in Sept '62 and I confused the catalyst with the actual event.

Beyond freeing the slaves in "the south", the EP allowed them to serve in the Federal Army. So the two things can be true.

@@JosephAdams93 Which southern states didn't rebel?

The guy is a hack with an agenda.

I think he was referring to USCT troops often drawn from occupied southern states or from escaped slaves. Many former slaves from Louisiana and North Carolina (parts of which were occupied early on in the war) joined the Union Army both as a means of self-protection and a way to strike back at a system that oppressed them. By freeing all the slaves in the rebellious states it clearly allowed southern escaped slaves to join the army and give greater impetus for escaping, thereby undermining Confederate power.

What was the book called?

@@TheTurbanatore I found it, it's called How to Practice.

@@jaythompson5102 thanks

Great concept!

A positive outcome in and of itself is always, well, positive. But that doesn't negate negative motives. If I fail to murder someone and it results in a hospital visit where they catch cancer at an early enough stage to be treated, that doesn't make my actions good.

Yup once you sell NFTs you’re def the worst

@@jeremys6747 capitalism at its finest

“And to the republic, for which it stands. One Nation under God”

No the guy who graduated from Yale with a PHD and also Stanford probably never read the federalist. 🙄 you guys are clowns

@tmc1415 that was Ronald Regan. Not Washington.

He’s not wrong. The Republic died once the 14th Amendment was passed.

@@andrewpierce1588 How so? Are we no longer ruled by representatives? I don't think the general population directly votes on every law.

Just because you agree with something someone said doesn't mean your 'education' is validated. You can be intelligent and have a bias as well, like the guy in the video.

Lol...why

Well he said Andrew Johnson was our worst president ever. It's probably true as hell, but it's technically an opinion.

@@kashifsingh791 If it's true that makes it a fact. How would that be an opinion? Do you even understand the difference?

@@sleazypolarjudgements can’t be facts dummy. Any opinion is normative, even if you think it’s true. Also don’t try to talk down to people when you are dumb as shit

@@YOUGOTMOONED77 Who are you?

@@sleazypolar I don’t think you know what an opinion is. Or what a fact is. Opinions are a personal preference. A fact is a claim about reality. You can state a wrong fact doesn’t make it an opinion.

Oh really? What does that even mean? And if so, why didn't they just do it earlier? Sounds like revisionist history to me.

@@shrimuyopa8117 and you sound like you eat up mainstream Rockefeller narratives. Same narratives created by the people who run our country and world . All history books go through checks and balances owned by Rockefeller companies before being placed in educational system .

179,000 black men, slaves, fought in the civil war. Without that force, maybe the North doesn’t win. And why didnt they do it sooner? If thats not obvious to you I can’t help you.

@@shrimuyopa8117why are you so angry about slaves freeing themselves? Whether true or not, you sound annoyed & frustrated 😂 “Why didn’t they do it earlier” is the funniest thing i’ve heard all month

Also the assassination of Lincoln was orchestrated in Montreal and approved of by the Confederate President Jefferson Davis as Montreal was a giant hub for spys and their agencies for the British Empire and the Confederates, as many Confederates were stationed in the “Northern Confederacy”. London also had attempted many assassinations on Lincolns Cabinet members. Many of them successful. William Seward the secretary of state and the man who made the purchase of Alaska possible had 3-4 assassination attempts on him and 1 that nearly killed him. This is also why Russia sold Alaska so cheaply to the Union so England does not grab it. It is why we took Hawaii as we did because the English were close to annexing it. It is why we tried buying Greenland so many times and Iceland as it created a strong border cornering England but each time England made sure Denmark did not sell Greenland to us even back when we recently tried buying it for 1.1 Trillion.

Well it wouldn’t have been a world war if only the US got annexed. It would have been a world war if Russia did get involved

That's not how I interpreted what he meant, more like providing different angles.

Persuasion of audience is not lying

He essentially just said that a different set of arguments would satisfy different crowds. That is 100% true, not everyone values the same things, but finding what could be of value to certain groups and relaying that is just good diplomacy.

Tommy Lee Jones played Thaddeus Stevens.

You can’t be effective as a leader of an entire nation without using any manipulation at all. It’s more about whether you use it for the right reasons.

Can you explain what that means for the uneducated like me

What face

Northerners see only facet of the CW. The rest is conveniently ignored.

Read William C. Davis An Honorable Defeat: The Last Days of the Confederate Government

Yes He did

Very cool but quit boasting already.

I wouldn't romanticize the Sherman March.

@@aureate It ended slavery. duh! yes Ill scream it!

@@lealamb9713 The Sherman March was totally superfluous. Countless civilians were raped and murdered, including slaves.

@@aureate Sherman should've kept going until the entire south was purged of the racist, slave-holding traitors.

@Lovebombs Its in a famous book called American Bastille. Read a book for once and try to increase your IQ to triple digits.

Sounds like the Patriot act

An American Dictator and a Whig Federalist.

He was trying to win a war that would determine if the United States got to continue or not. Desperate times call for desperate measures

@@lifeonleo1074 He took away people's constitutional rights and incarcerated them without trials- merely for dissenting and criticizing the war. The war was coming one way or another and it wasn't necessary to imprison people illegally. Its quote the slippery slope that you are pretending to know which constitutional rights can be broke when. Nope, I don't buy that you have this type of clairvoyance.

Trump was president, which means anyone can be president.

You can't just cut a term short wtf you talking about?

All entirely hypothetical, but an interesting description of a possible outcome. Personally, I believe that it's more likely that another civil war would have kicked off within a decade if Lincoln had lived. The most popular falsehood told about Lincoln is that he believed in racial equality, but according to his own writings he was not. The greatest irony in American history is that Lincoln's death laid the foundation for postwar cultural reunification. The race grifting industry was birthed in 1866 by people seeking to build a narrative that the war was about freeing slaves and not about state's rights, and that Lincoln was effectively a martyr for the cause of abolition. If Lincoln had finished his term, the cultural landscape would have looked very different and I would postulate that slavery would have continued in the south, and that the north would eventually intervene when the CSA began to crop up again.

Andrew Johnson was a Democrat, not a republican (look it up before you respond, this is the reason it was politically expedient to appoint Johnson VP) so no, democrats weren't going to magically wave a wand and cause a dramatic disappearance of racism.

We have plenty black mayors, only a few representatives but prolly no senators cuz there’s no majority black state not even Mississippi

@@voiceofreason2674 We have like three Black US Senators. Cory Booker, Tim Scott and Raphael Warnock!

He’s a horrible shill.

@@Hawkvol1he’s a doctor, what do you have ?

We were fighting a war to preserve the nation itself It’s quite literally legal for his actions to be taken during a crisis like that

@@Dante.- not when the US Constitution reserves the right to the Individual States to determine if they want to be part of the union. Lincoln violated the constitution. He was a tyrant.

So, he shoots his bias pretty straightforward...???

​@@paulheydarian1281 Don't try to twist their words. but tell me anybody with knowledge on the subject that doesn't have a certain bias regarding the civil war, I'm sure you could not.

@@paulheydarian1281 like they said everyone has bias... that includes you

He didn't mention Lincoln only emancipated the slaves in the the "states in rebellion" to cripple the South economically. Border states that had slaves, that did not secede did not have to free anyone. It's bothersome when historians always try to worm abolitionist sentiment into Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation.

Problem is hes not aware of his own biases and seemingly believe he's right about everything he believes

It’s actually mentioned at the beginning of this clip that aspects of the civil war still linger to this day. Did you even listen to the clip or just dive right into the comments 😂

@Man00ks No, I meant that the fighting didn't stop with Lee's surrender. There were other armies that continued to fight.

@@jrippinger that is true, but at that time he was the Confederates overall military leader, his surrender essentially was him telling other confederate leaders beneath him to surrender, even if they didn’t as is the case in the Western theater

No disrespect, just a disagreement*

The war continued only because it took longer to reach everyone. The war was effectively over.

Theyre jewish

And?

@@LgtTurtlez should we give corrupt politicians villas for dragging europe into war and trying to start a fkin world war that could wipe out half of the planet? btw.. if you have an issue with anything what I said, just tell me which part and I'll give you proof for it.

@@Defort-jd8xe Europe's not "in war." Russia is waging a war against Ukraine and Ukraine is being supported by Europe in order to stand up for itself and set a major precedent in international affairs. If Russia was just enabled to take whatever the hell it wanted, destroying democracies in its wake, Europe not doing anything, then Russia could do whatever it wanted. He's not trying to start WWIII. You're essentially getting mad at someone for trying to defend their home and hyperbolizing the situation.

@@LgtTurtlez Nearly all of europe is sending heavy military equipment into Ukraine and most of eastern europe has thousands of people fighting in Ukraine. Its a war between the two biggest military powers in europe. You can argue what "in war" means, thats my definition. If you dont like it, well, sucks for you. I dont care. "He's not trying to start WWIII." He LITERALLY lied to the world about Russia killing civilians on the area of a NATO member while KNOWING it was an Ukraine rocket that did that. "You're essentially getting mad at someone for trying to defend their home and hyperbolizing the situation." Zelenskiy is trying to defend the russian people in the Donbass? Is this your statement?

What cost? The cost of getting rid of one of the worst institutions in our nations history?

@@justsomedude77 that's what was bought. There is still a cost even if it was a good deal.

@@gravytruck what was the cost that’s still felt to this day that bought it?

@@justsomedude77 the Indian wars of the 1870s and 80s and creation of the Reservation system,, guys like Custer all got their start in the Civil War. The creation of a permanent, standing Federal army and all the abuses there after. Vietnam, the failed War on Terror all go back to Lincoln.

And we'd do it all over again if necessary

You mean the cackling, word salad spewing, hyena???🤔

😂

Give me a break.