Asmon is actually very good at explaining mechanics of boss fights and what to do. Memes and ballbusting aside, when he talks about the game you can tell he loves it and loves talking about it. It’s a massive indictment on blizzard that Asmon doesn’t even care about the game anymore beyond clipping his streams into hardcore death compilation reactions. Hats off on that end though, I couldn’t watch this much WoW content without having the compulsion to play…

"Tell them only that the Lich King is dead, and that World of Warcraft died with him."- Bolvar Fordragon

People been doing this fight on Warmane for literally over a decade on repeat, I'm sure they could have done this without addons

"There must always be.. a lich king". It's been a decade and that line still gives me chills.

Killing the Lich King the first time with my guild was one of the best experiences in wow, and it was the last time I enjoyed PvE. The conclusion to Arthas' story was awesome to witness having played Warcraft 3, and built up to it in WoW. I love melee SV hunter now, but explosive shot, black arrow.. the way ranged SV worked was so fun, and I'm sad it isn't at least more like that for MM now.

I remember when I killed LK on my hunter main back in retail ICC. M8s didn't manage to kill the valkyr that had me hooked and I was about to be dropped off the edge, when I had that idea of disengaging back to the platform. Without engeneering and everyone was like omg wtf 200 IQ! Today you read that in every sheet 😂

Still shed a manly tear when I see Tirion say you will not be forgotten and Bolvar retorts with You must forget.

Asmon's commentary/guide to HC LK legit better than a lot of the dedicated guides, impressed.

The ending cinematic is something that will never be beaten. I've seen it 100 times and it still gives me chills.

Important to note that back them esports was not really that big of a thing yet. Most guilds had a non meta group full of underperforming classes with the wrong professions. And yeah like he said computers and internet connexions are much better now. I'd say in 2010 computers were starting to be good but i remember when we were doing Molten Core one of our healer had to heal while facing the wall cause when he was putting his camera toward the raid he was lagging so much it was a slideshow.

I remember how pumped we were when we killed LK. One of my most memorable gaming experiences ever.

To go dead ass to the end of the final raid and kill the last boss of the expansion with nothing but gear from the previous tiers and a plan, is insanely impressive.

34:24 Paragon's Lich King 25-man kill was impressive, but for me, their most impressive kill was in MoP... They killed 10man Heroic Garrosh using only 1 healer. The healing was God Tier.

Why this kill looked so much easier than the Paragon kill, even though these guys had a lot less gear, and didn't have the 5% buff: - Addons - 13 more years of experience understanding the fight intimately. Strats like valkyrs stun assignments and Soul Reaper cooldown rotations were perfected to a science. If you look at private server raid encounters between 2015-2022, you'll see raid strategies very similar to what we saw here (movement strategy for shadow traps, frost beacons on Sindy, etc) - Class Optimization was a lot better. Paragon brought classes like assassination rogues and feral DPS, which don't have as much cleave DPS potential (LK 25hc is *extremely* cleave heavy). - There were minor buffs in the form of things like Trap Launcher for marksmanship hunters, allowing them to push out a lot more Explosive Trap damage than would have been possible during original Wrath. - If I'm not mistaken, Progress only used 4 healers too, compared to Paragon's 5. Which means they had 1 extra DPS.

40:40 I have never played during these times or not I am WOW player and I can feel this epicness, this is something. I think WC3 feels kick in - a resolution to epic tale of Arthas and Warcraft world in general.

Not only did Bolvar take on the biggest burden, but he did it for ZERO recognition Back when the writing was good 😢

the world first kill of a boss the second time 15 years later

In regards to the Sindragoa Fight: Welcome to a world where private servers exist. Due to servers like Warmane having it locked at 3.3.5, new strategies were pioneered with addons updated to include this. When I first started playing Warmane, I was confused as why we werent using the stairs either. But after having geared numerous characters in ICC BiS gear, I cant imagine doing it any other way. So many fights have been streamlined and learned. Some still using the same strategies from Retail when it first came out. Some with tweaks and some completely new. I cannot remember if on retail when clearing to Plagueworks if people were pulling groups of trash mobs to the group to clear faster. So basically, one guy goes and pulls a blood council trash mob to the group at a specific time so we are finishing clearing a Plagueworks trash group and then turn to blood council. Then you get the PvP aspect where people constantly PvP in BiS gear non stop and do arenas non stop. Granted, you can only get as good in PvP as the skill cap as a whole of the server. But it has allowed players to hone there skills without the need to grind to 80 and grind gear to actually be somewhat competitive in a PvP scene.

Definitely my favorite moment in WoW back in the day. I was playing a resto Shaman in a guild that got Yogg +0 9th world before the nerf, but we really struggled like most guilds on this one for a while. During enrage, it was me and a ranged DPS left, and he died leaving me solo, and my Flameshock tick finished him, Ventrillo went nuts, lol.

I remember going in with the 10m core to this raid twice a week and just having the BEST time with my buddies. I was in HS at the time and I think back to those memories often. I still have the video the first time we downed LK.

Even on retail, when doing the Time Rift event for the Lich King - there are people staying in defile :D

16:40 in EVERY SINGLE PUG + on Saurfang someone would ALWAYS steal the BiS trinket for DK dps... then leave. then grou pwould fall apart or take another 4 hrs to refill

I remember spending reset after reset until we got our first LK kill back in WOTLK. That fight was tough

That trinket from AQ he was talking about also was how a lot of hpallys got glad back in normal tbc/wrath it was very insane.

people have played Lich king on private servers with + 40 % HP buff to the bosses. This does not come as a surprise.

I always thought that at one point, Blizzard might utilize this great power Azeroth has 'won' in form of a gigantic undead army against the Burning Legion. But nope. They let them rot in Northrend without doing anything until the big bad guy that was so iconic to Warcraft was 'defeated'.

The gameplay is amazing dude, sooo good, wow did you see those moves?? Amaz Balls!!

I still have the server first LK on my priest. Was an amazing fight, and on par with hearing the first "YOU ARE NOT PREPARED". Good memories.

Imagine being a hardcore raider of ICC again

Crazy how close this was to the world first hc naxx clear.

Would have thought Hodir would have been reality check the for a new pc. like 50% of our raid team had to for the projected textures because they couldn't see the ice mounds.

Hypotenuse means, the longest side of a right-angled triangle compared to the length of the base and perpendicular. The hypotenuse side is opposite to the right angle, which is the biggest angle of all the three angles in a right triangle. In simple terms, displacement is the shortest distance between the start point and the finish point. As you know, the shortest distance between two points is a straight line that connects the two points.

They didnt just clear 25man with TOC gear but 25man HEROIC!! the sweatiest and skilled group damn

WoW Classic is now officially over. It's been fun boys ✌️

I had to stun the final Valk, back it the day, and that was somewhat harder to do since, Defile would spawn 1-2 seconds once it spawn.

the hypotenuse is the longest side of a triangle with a 90 deg angle XD

They can stand where they are for more than 2 sec. Amazing design.

To add to the soulreaper comment: It does 50k dmg after 5 sec (you have about 53-54k HP) AND after that he gets a frenzy for 5 sec increasing LK attack speed to 0.9. He hits for 40k+

I remember first raid you showing in this video, was my first raid AT ALL. I was a warlock and I nailed it, my friend gave me a full item warlock as a gift of playing good with low item warlock.. I was so proud of myself of being smart by learning it so fast and clean. these things were something that I start to know about myself... at a certain point, in other versions, I start to found none of these things, because of so many reasons we all know.

I love how bolvar's voice changed into the LK's voice... it was amazing

As a former hunter in WOTLK, I remember just how powerful survival was early on. I ended WOTLK as MM, but that wasn't until I had a good amount of armor penetration. Side note, I NEVER got DBW from Saurfang. When we killed Halion for the first time and the Sharpened Twilight Scale dropped, I was the only person who had not gotten DBW, and I actually stated in Ventrillo (discord) that if it went to ANYONE who already had DBW, I would G quit on the spot. They still deliberated for a full 3 minutes before begrudgingly looting it to me. Hell, DBW had MORE armor pen than this thing, and it was possible to get to armor pen cap without this AND DBW. DBW was the most ninja'd piece of loot I've ever seen. Never understood why people would do that, considering if they got reported, the loot was stripped and they got banned.

World first 12 years later with everything about the fight solved. These people did what people thought impossible.

Heroic was available 2 months after the initial release of ICC in original WOTLK.

It technically isn't the hypotanus - because there is no triangle. The chatter is technically right about called it the radius - or at least it follows the radius line from the spawn point to the edge of the circle. If the arena wasn't a perfect circle the line would be the "normal", but for a circle the normal and the radius lines are the same

Id like to see how these fights would go if addons didnt work in classic 😅. Its insane the coordination and skill they have and this is a perfect clear, but these boss fights would be so different if there was t a warning called out every x seconds and "beware" etc. A lot of random deaths would occur is my guess.

I no longer have a personal investment in World of Warcraft, but when I reflect on the game, I can't help but feel a surge of frustration. It reminds me of the remarkable character Tirion Fordring, who played such a significant role during the game's peak. It's disheartening to think about how his character was seemingly discarded in the Legion expansion, merely to justify players wielding his legendary weapon, the Ashbringer. What stings even more is the lack of a cinematic to give him a proper farewell. Then there's Bolvar Fordragon, a character I held in high regard. He was a true powerhouse of a champion, and I was thrilled when I saw him return in the Shadowlands cinematic thinking Sylvanas is finally going down. However, it appears that Blizzard had different plans, which left many fans, including myself, disappointed. Im not sure whether Blizzard was influenced by the prevailing trends of "wokeness" at the time, but it felt like they were determined to showcase Sylvanas as an overwhelmingly formidable character, even to the extent of implying that she could take on both the Lich King and Saurfang.

So did they remove the HC restriction in Wrath Classic? Cause I can remember back in the day the leader had to have killed LK on normal difficulty to be able to switch it to HC.

As i played that as a Kid, i was easy one of the best Healer on my Realm. I played later on in the best Clan on the Server, where i also meet first time someone as good as myself. Then after 2 Years i moved to a more competative realm...I was one of 8 healers in the best Clan nothing special anymore, just one of 8. I am sure now, i will be 1 of Thousends. With all those Addons, good PC for lower prices Players became just way better then in my Time. I remember I had to study Bosses for hours, use Makros to stop and cast spells inside the Latency, to be just one spell of 10 spells faster. Movement was 3/4 of the Fights and that took Bossknowledge. Now Addons helping out in every aspect.

I remember being in my guilds first ICC 25m and then someone mentioned that Heroic Arthas was already down. I remember being shocked. I thought it would take like at least the end of the weekend but nope! Yoou truly were Azeroths greatest Champions :)

Ive played in Warmane for about 10 years give or take and top guilds there in bis gear would clear it for about 90 min. As people said it is a walk in the park, however, still quite impressive with the togc gear they have and no RS trinkets/SM on every melee.

as one of the first disc priests to down h25 lk , i can say this fight was the hardest fight ever in wow for its time. learning the fight was so epically difficult and painful i literally went full pvp for the following 4 expansions

I remember attempting this fight and we never could beat it. Matter of fact NO ONE on my server had beat it. The first time ICC 25 man was downed on my server was when cata came out, and they used cata greens.

Fun fact, even if these guys made it look easy I doubt almost anyone who said "old fight ofc it is easy" could do it with same setup without putting in the practise.

What would hardcore wrath look like? And what about this fight would everyone die perm just for the glory?

paragon is still today remembered by killing this insanely hard boss world first ever

H LK 25 ,man was the one fight my guild could never get enough people competent enough to down. We had him on farm with two 10 man groups but that was both far easier and we couldn't recruit enough competent people. I think we managed to wipe at something like 14% (max buff and mostly H ICC 25 gear).

Hypotenuse: "the closest distance between two different points" smartest streamer Asmon

Imagine doing ICC at hardcore

The reason the affliction loc does so much damage is because his empored seed also hits all of the valcyrs that are hovering above the boss and puts corruption on them. So you can tweak a bit, I also did this back in the days ^^. After 16y of WoW and then classic, then hating classic and leaving forever ... this is the ONLY Boss that would have made me come back, it's literally ONLY LK 25HC, non other But classic made me realize that I cannot have back the old times. They were great and our LK 25hc kill was the most important of all of the first kills in my wow career, but it would never be the same again.

Awesome to see done without error. When we were originally running the content we could only wish for this kind of raid performance.

With 15 years of prep time they’d better kill him.

while these people do play very consistent and disciplined , i have to say my respect for those doing it in classic is minimized by the fact , that this is not a world first in general , because classic is SO much easier and we allready know everything. Nothing new, and the patch we play with differs massivly from back then. EVERYthing is so much easier. This here is just wannabes patting themselves on the back in 16-17 year old game, acting like they are pros in content my grandfather did back then..... If this was just about playing clean and disciplined , that would be a good video. Other then that, wow is dead, and these kind of videos are a testament to why.

can someone tell me the name of the damage font and how to install it into Retail? as well as classic? that's my favorite damage font; it's SO CLEAR

I can't watch the ending cinematic anymore without thinking that my entire biceps must be purged.

Wow, we fast bois.

I stopped playing WoW for many years now, I'm a FF14 andy atm, but seeing this stuff never gets old. Congrats to the legends showcased on this video. 👍

NOTHING BEATS HEARING THE CHEERS AND SCREAMS RATTLE THE DISCORD WHEN LK DIES FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH YOUR GUILD NORMAL OR HEROIC DOENT MATTER I LOVE THE WHOLESOME YELLS AND PPL ARE GENUINELY HAPPY GOTTA LOVE IT

Ulduar 25 gear being buffed massively, especially valanyr, along with the fact you can get valanyr in 2 weeks with good luck, is the reason this boss went down in a speed run. You have a 258 valanyr on everyone, even enhancement shamans ffs. Legendaries are supposed to be legendary for a reason, and this video is why.

Fun Fact: This run was sooo fast. They were even faster than private server guilds with the 30% buff! Its impressive as hell!

gz to whoever got the mount. the mount looked different back in 3.3.5 right? They chaged the size of the wings with later patches, i still remember. Does wotlk classic use the old invincible mount model?

Wonder when Hardcore TBC and WotLK, maybe theyll allow transfers from classics vanilla hardcore into the next expansions.

I wish they had released classic without addon support. Would be interesting to see how much of an impact it really had.

Its not that this was hard back in the day it was the technology that we used that made it more difficult computers had alot higher input lag with alot lower fps and the internet was hot garbage id be alot more impressed if they beat this on a mid range computer from 2009 2010 with equivalent internet connection

Whats the addon/weak aura that shows the debuffs in text form above raid members heads?

Remember falling asleep doing this with hand on kb...ran across and wiped whole raid while setting up, lol

Man how did Warcraft lore go from SO GOOD to where it is now..

The people who put those raids together deserve all the credit. The rest are just above average players of which there are many. But there aren't that many people able to lead with an iron fist.

ahhh the music man. Haven't played wow in many years, but sometimes it feels good to see my old haunt :)

Horrific Sindragosa flashbacks. That voice still hits my spine in just the right way that it wants to leave my body.

Lol 25 people, pathetic I beat it solo as a death knight

for this game to have this add ons is just bad. might as well do autoplay. doing this fight with no add ons at all is a different game and everyone knows it.

sindra had us stuck for awhile when this came out back in the day i remember the day we beat her and went on to beat lk same raid

Before Blizz made it not work, I remember my guild making AVR mandatory in ICC

After 15 years and millions of wotlk funservers it's normal that people are prepared! Indeed, it was strange if they didn't succeed on the first run!

I killed this boss back in WOTLK with the 30% buff. It's insane how shit we were back then compare to players now. I was in a top 200 guild then and felt like we were pretty good at the game.

My guild spent weeks on the LK fight - fun times.

How do people learn the mechanics of a boss fight for a new patch? Like do they give an advanced description of the fight?

I dont understand? Isnt this an old boss how is this world first? Ive heard of wrath of the lich king did theboss not come out back then? Sorry idk wow

Addons really ruiins the wow experience honestly

The music in the background brings back so many memories, when LK was new.

Loot from Ulduar and TOC was upgraded on WOTKL Classic, better stats, that's why too.

I can see why Asmond is impressed since he has never been in a guild that know wtf they are doing.

These guys are well coordinated, but the use of addons diminishes the achievement to me. Might as well have bots do the fight at this point.

Hypotenuse is the longest side of a right angled triangle. Pythagorean is rolling in his grave

So I have played since about 2 months after classic released, I stopped for a little bit mid WoD, came back mid Legion stopped with bfa and then started recently again... I had raided since classic but wotlk was when I got into a very high end guild and we were first on our server for everything and man seeing that syndragosa fight brings back memories. He explains it really well it may not seem like a lot of hard mechanics but compared to a lot of the previous raid mechanics this one was just difficult for a lot of people. The regular heroic version isnt too bad but the real killer was the achievement for the Frost brood vanquisher. After we had heroic lk on a weekly kill getting that for our mains and alts was a huge pain and I know of 2 guilds that essentially disbanded because one was just having too many issues and people got frustrated and stopped and the other had to sub out several of their melee to have more ranged DPS for the achievement and they promised to do it again for those melee and they still were having issues the next time they tried so like 7 of their main raides quit lol. good times

Never played wow can someone explain how cool this is?

I still think the story here was so bad. How the hell is the scourge more dangerous if there isn't a Lich King? Why can't Bolvar just make all of the undead he controls just destroy themselves? The premise is just so stupid.

I haven't played wow in over a decade, lost interest after lich king. This brings back fond memories.

Almost every class has received some sort of damage buff in classic wrath from original wrath

do people know what "world first" means? the world first lich king was done over a decade ago. its not called "world first: within reason: for this generation: