*Japanese trainee that only starts being trainee a year ago:

K-pop is Cancer

@sebbspato2 Most of them are like that though...sadly

Either she didn't know the training they get through, or she didn't give an eff about it.

@@grazisamor1991 nah its company differences. If the company is powerful and famous its guarantee sucess.

@@tanayaghosh8088 good luck i hope u make it ☺️

@@tanayaghosh8088 I really hope you do good💛 all the love💛

@@tanayaghosh8088 good luck!

@@tanayaghosh8088 good luck

@@jellyfishi_ I understand where you’re coming from and how it can be perceived that way however her job was to help them improve on their dance and vocals. It may be the company’s job to prepare them to be idols and achieve that status but like I said in my comment she didn’t say anything about what they could improve on to become the best kpop idol they could be. I respect your opinion and in no way do I mean to offend you or come off as rude. This is just my view of it ☺️

Ikr

frr

Ikr!

Bruhh 👀

They need to be underwieght do that they can dance more freely

How do u know?

Do u know her instagram?

Whats her instagram @ ?

Whats her Instagram

hey

Not at all i guess.. If it's your dream and you didn't succeed it.. It's actually sucks.

@@shuyaminosmaid the person said THIS company, they didn't mention another/other companies.

@@thatoneravenclaw417 but it's hard to get into any company, they need to work with what they have or they can go and find other job which is hard for most families in Korea

You've got a point

that is what I thought

Cool Bish 994 10x meaner than bae yoon jung 😂

For real, that was so fucking rude.

Tbh, its more rude than my mom. *Really.*

@@eniks6607 my mom like that tho :v

Just show how tough this industry is. People are literally clawing each other out for debut.

The way the judge would straight up go like ''u suck:D'' ....

she was dancing better than I do and I'm in highschool

Imagine dedicating yourself for years of this grueling training only to be rejected, your dreams crushed and with nothing to show for all the hard work.

Eun Kyung TV! Yeah that’s too far

ikr! jimin from bts (bighit company) had a water diet, bighit still let him drink water.. Thats too far

Without water, it’s so easy to get dehydrated and pass out. Water is more important than food, plus it’s so necessary for the body. That’s just sad. Kpop diets aren’t healthy on its own, but this “no water” diet is another level.

The fact that they do a lot of physical work like hard dancing just makes it worse.

Water has no calories and helps you lose weight.... THAT MAKES NO SENSE 😂

Aah don't even reamind me of that! I could't even watch that..

u should see how chinese kids get trained for olympics

@@AnimationAirlines omg yes I saw! They force them aswell they even cry its awful!

I can tell by her scream..it sounded like she is in pain

Ikr i felt her AGH I WANNA JUST COMPLAIN TO THEIR AGENCY AND FIRE HER but i cant ..... why .. IM A FRIKIN 11 YEAR OLD

She's arrogant, that's why.

Yeah this is so sad

Yeah she learned so much for nothing. Hope she finds a better agency or a new career.

True

Me too😔

Manisha Bhaittrai With the agency it’s basically a whole team, who publishes the music and gives themes and what not. Even in holly wood to get famous you need to have a label to publish the music. Without an agency or team you might not be successful, at least in Korea. In the US idk

Why does this video remind me of math class...

Doker...omg I feel you

Omg yes that hit so hard

Same with me

Basically me with my grades

I figured out what it was at 8

I was 11

And I discovered them at 43 yo😊 Not the girl/ boy singer-dancers but the real band with instruments. CNBLUE was the first one as I realized: "Oh..these boys are amazing. They music is really good. They're talented musicians etc..." It happens that they started with this 'IDOL' things too. Their visuals are TOP and their natural beauty is well known. They are a real deal. Thanks God. Although they're not this kind of group, they did have faced a lot of difficulties at the beginning. They worked hard just like others. More than others. Yonghwa, the leader slept just 2 hours per day even after their successful debut in 2010. They did more than 100 street busking in Japan before debut where no one was watching them. Just passing by. They were nothing but now...they had 17k audiences in just a concert. They're what they're now. They are still working hard and they deserve our love and support. Fighting 💪🏼

14? I realised abt kpop when I turned 25 lol and yet I have watched only 3 or 4 kpop stars. I am not into kpop or Kdrama too much because it’s unrealistic from the world that is something I knew as soon as I got introduced to it

I was 5

Seiei Leisure Yeah, there are still a lot of other better entertainment companies. For example, Jyp entertainment provides therapy and such.

Go independent.

@@peskybee4256 very few people can get into the big 3 or decent companies. i mean, good luck to anyone trying to get into jyp, but in reality it's not super likely

I noticed that the agency name is Star Road so I will not be supporting them until they treat their idols with respect.

@@peskybee4256 isn't jyp strictrier than yg and sm? Some sasaeng said that.

Mio_ Mew basically almost every other place is fine

Sad part its tadaka kent company ( jbj)

basically. not every company is like this, especially not the big ones!

trueh

@@elijahsstyle I miss JBJ. Hope they're all doing well. :(

Lmao

I don't think I need to lose weight because I'm 32Kg and I'm 12 years old

@@miin1441 hunny youre 12.. u wont stay at that weight

@@chihannabi3815 I cannn!! I eat vegetables and fruits everyday!!!!

@@miin1441 you're weight is gonna change when you get older for sure

that's how it goes , i'm pretty sure if she called the CEO she'd be out immedietly

Yeah.. its too heartbreaking. The way to reach her dream becoming idol is too rough and harsh...

Maybe all idols hv been through this.. and it gets me sad. They hv to keep their smiles in front of the fans above all the sufferings. :(

Ikr 😭😢

Very Heartbreaking

bangtansonyeondamn exactly what i was going to say. It’s a gradual (yes. slightly painful) process. but it should never bring you to screaming and tears. Be gentle with your body... and how they pulled her out of it at the end! they were just wanting to tear her muscles

@@stephanieblosser5490 oh my god i know i cringed so hard when they yanked her out of it. i have been a dancer for 22 years and thank god not once has someone forced me into the middle splits like that. its so 80s to do something like that :/

I know haven't done cheerleading in years but that is a BIG no no

Pushing with a lot of weight could be harmful but you can see in the video she just has one hand on the girl's body so I doubt she's pushing with much force. I think the girl is mostly screaming from the pain of gravity. Partner stretching like this can be very helpful, but I've never screamed from pain before pushing a middle split.

Stephanie Blosser I’m pretty sure it was another trainee that pulled her out of the position thinking she was helping her :(

I think it’s buttering her up before they dish out the real punishment which is kicking her from the debut. It’s to soften the blow when she realizes she’s the only one that won’t make it.

I think they also did it on purpose for the other girls. They knew she wasn't going to cut it, and praised her while belittling the ones who did. A bit of manipulation. 'Oh look, she did great but she was cut, I have to work harder and be better than her so that they don't kick me out.'

@@liliaalvarado7040 that way of thinking is really smart

Lilia Alvarado I agree with you but I also think that it’s saying even if they are praised and do good it doesn’t always guaranteed that they’ll 1. Debut 2. Be successful 3. Wont regret it later And much more despite their hard work

Hmmm ur right

plus you don’t get paid at all unless you repay all the debt you owe to your company for training.. so you’re also broke

Yeah it's absolutely disgusting

Pretty sure you have to be a certain height aswell to be in the industry so the weight requirement is actually not indiscriminate

Starvation at its finest

@@dngrouscrgo I mean there's a girl in IZ*ONE that's 4'9"

I’m freaking 5’10 if I was fucking 50kg I’d be looking so damn anorexic 🤦🏾‍♀️

i know. its sickening. companies like that should be put out of business. its inhumane

Lucy Link I got so mad when the girl that was pushing her down said ''Hey I'm not even pushing you. Why are you crying?'' and then said a few seconds later ''go down lower!'' can't they see she can't and it hurts like what is wrong with them and I felt so bad I even started crying when they started celebrating they were underweight

@@spookyscarycorpse2969 that's normal (??) I take karate classes and i have to do the same so I can be more flexible and when one of us cries they push us harder to the floor ( until our knot of the belt is on the floor)

@@filipa3303 I kinda think that part wasn't as bad too. I am doing gymnastics and yes it hurts to stretch like that. But when you push through the pain, that's when you will notice progress in your flexibility. It looks awful but I have seen ballet or gymnastics coaches do worse stuff.

@@Meyb4l EXACTLYY, I think everyone here is overreacting. It's normal especially if you are a dancer lmao

actually a little correction, in thailand its people with chinese descent that are mostly casted. Native thais are rare

probably because she was older than the others (24), i heard sori also couldn't debut with yg (i think) because she's almost 30. But who knows, i hope she does get to debut i would totally stan her

I knowww that's were I really got confused

@@yeee9238 thats so crazy to think about, considering bts' age difference(in the beginning it was 15 at youngest and 20 at oldest). I guess that just goes to show how rare and how lenient just that amount of leeway can be in the kpop industry. Just age can be that way...

we only heard one other persons feedback. maybe the others were really good

I think if you're a trainee you need to have the talent and skills not just knowledge on how to dance and perform because companies have high ideal standards that you need to keep up and they are not thinking twice whether they'll pick you because they are always looking for the best. It's harsh but that's reality. And it doesn't mean that you get the best compliments you're safe no sometimes they compliment those that did not pass the test just to lessen the negativity or discouragement of that person.

Jeez K-pop sometimes can be quite mysterious

Dumb and stupid....is it worth it ?? Don't think so......on top of that most will go for plastic surgeries........they don't look natural selves.......hair colours and so on....... it's sad they 're so insecure with themselves .and that lead to all others.......tq

Shirley Cameron dont say dumb and stupid. It’s really disgraceful. Koreans have insecurities that they would change anything to make their insecurities patched up.

Shirley Cameron k firstly, it’s not dumb and stupid if being an idol is really what they want. There’s a lot of pressure, of course, and they are overworked, but when they debut, they’re happy. Secondly, the different hair colours are the concepts for the songs and albums. No one is being tortured with hair dye, it’s not a bad thing despite dying hair endlessly will damage their natural hair. Lastly, most of them go through hard times. It’s a lot of pressure being a trainee and hard work must be put into it. Although some are insecure, many are confident and they encourage others. Being insecure doesn’t lead others into being insecure.

Shirley Cameron you probably don’t think it’s worth the hard work because being an idol isn’t your dream. But many young people are happy when they sing, dance, and perform. The job that you want, the dream that you want, what you want to do in life, are you willing to work hard for it? If you are, then you’re just like those trainees. They think it’s worth it because they’re grasping at their dreams, and you will too, when you’re in the process of grabbing ahold of your dream

What a joke lol

@@Mochi-ot7kq you are a joke yourself

Agree🤧

난코 agreed

@ღAsel Secret Angelღ not as bad here

Omg i just thought about it ,

Dang...

Exact..!

Oh my gosh...

No thanksss

RM's moonchild yeah or u don’t get properly recognised and promoted and thus ur group becomes a nobody in the kpop industry... not only do u need to get past the stage of debuting but also continuing to work hard to attain success. I always pity and feel bad for many idols 😓

not really tho if you did work really hard and did a contribution to all of the kpop industry, although doing that is very hard and its very unlikely to happen (use bts,and other famous groups for an example, i bet they won't be forgotten. but they did work really hard) but imo, its easier to get richer by working in a idol agency or making an idol agency then being the actual idol

I hope she has a backup plan

@@gawkygawk6396 idk how hard bp worked, if they didn't debut in yg...

@@gawkygawk6396 the percent to get success is still low, and you still have to fight with many people just to get debut So i hope if anyone who dream to be in this industry have a back up plan

maemisaki fr

Fr, they usually aim for 43 kg, 48 is considered heavy even for a tall girl

@@moonlace1560 48kg for a girl 160cm+ tall is literally underweight

Does this even take into account the difference in height, what about a 175cm girl?

Well most of them are short.. so

I ate 300 calories too when i had an eating disorder...lost 1 kg everyday it‘s super dangerous and unhealthy i feel sad they get forced to do it...

2000??? It’s not 1000?

I just go crazy with mine sometimes it's 200 calories sometimes it's 2000 calories

키미 I eat 1200 to 1300 a day, is that enough?

「 Meisai 」 it’s sad, she’s literally in her mid-twenties

Jessica Waddell one thing I eat is 580 and drink is 180....

Lol 😂😂😂relatable

My two sips of venti frap.

I don't count calories but I'm sure you need more than 300 cal to practice dancing like that all day

Bitch i drink tea all day long prolly 500 cals of tea a day

What's her username of Instagram??

j-slay I realized that too....it's horrible.

It was awful

j-slay wow... ;-;

Still healthy weight

not gonna lie I would to only because I know I have Extra pounds to spare at the buffet...

That's why idol's and trainee's deserve respect, we have to support them because their the ones who are putting all the work in, they're the ones who are sacrificing youth and freedom, we have to treat them with compassion, and maybe in the future when Kpop gains more exposure in the western, companies can change too.

Some company are sh*t really

cherry blossom are you kidding? They’re being forced into doing this.. the only people disrespecting them are those that make them do this and those that glorify celebrity culture.. the world doesn’t need a million Disney-style performers but hey if there’s money to make then you can be certain that someone is taking advantage of these young people

I know, I think it’s quite sad really. People shouldn’t need to suffer this much to be happy. I mean gosh yeah they’re beautiful and I really like how they look, but I would never do that cause I think u should love yourself. And if you wanna become a famous singer there are others ways, I mean, look at Adele she doesn’t have a perfect body or anything but me and a huge amount of people love her for her voice and creative ideas. Or even Billie Eilish. She’s my favorite artist for her voice and songs and the fact that she is not perfect and has her own problems and that she is super honest about it just makes me admire her more.

It’s also so sad when you realise how little money they get from it. I remember a while ago seeing the breakdown of SM Entertainment’s income, and I can’t remember seeing a good amount going to the idols. Some amazing music and talent comes out of Kpop, but it is heartbreaking knowing what harsh treatment is behind it all. There’s so much that we don’t see that goes on behind it all, and I understand that there is bad in many industries across the world, but things hit harder when you see or hear of it - it really brings it back to reality. I wish people could do what they love with the talent they have, and not be pushed over the brink to fit a particular structure or mould. It’s like some forget that they are people and not just idols to be trained and make a name of the companies.

My biass! Yes ikr, but when seulgi didn't make it i found it really cutee. Well actually shes so fully capable. Sing? Ofc. Dance? No need to ask. Visual? Bruh i can even turn gay for her

Omg i fuckin love her man, she’s so perfect

Same thing with Suga

BJTNSJJ97 J from bts?

@@lexygonzalez7045 Yes our lil meow meow /ᐠ｡ꞈ｡ᐟ\

They are basically toturing the trainees

They are training shaolin warrior monks but must dance and sing or even rap

@@user-lb5vs2cv2v also must have special talent and lots of aegyo in order to survive

@@EthosMusicOnly zzz, even animals were treated nicely than these trainee. I don't see why I should support K-pop

@@ClaraSticks.like.figure You don't have to support kpop. Dunno where you came up with that, but why the fuck u comparing animals to humans?They are both completely different. Yes, animals get treated nicely. But when they're out in the wild, they worry about the food chain. Animals dont have it easy.

yeah and they'll debut but won't have success, at the end, it's not that bad that she couldn't make it

Yeah, I would prefer to work hard before auditioning to a big company. Because there your sweat and tears are worth it. Plus u don't have to pay the company debt after debuting

It's kind of annoying how so many companies are popping up wanting to train idols and once they debut, they don't have enough money to actually promote them. Training an idol is an investment but if you don't put anything to promote them then they'll dissappear and you'll just keep losing money.

@@ambya6431 every group has to pay the company debt unless they earn so much that the company doesn't care about the debt. Even twice i think they just finished the company's debt around.. Last year(?) But they said it somewhere about getting their first full paycheck

Gummey I’m pretty sure twice paid off their debt within 2 years. I mean they were literally the hottest girl group when tt came out.they had many comebacks in one year, did a lot of promotions and concerts. So it’s impossible that they got their first pay check last year.

EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS

LMAO IFKR

IKR

Just because you teach someone, doesn't mean they'll do it right. It's why they have to evaluate them. It's why teaching is necessary and if you lack, then unfortunately you're cut.

@@lailonithomas6574 That's how my dance teacher was if we were lacking at a performance she would tell us not to hurt us but so we could ask questions and do better

Exactly

Lisa's tutoring is normal .Im not even a dancer but I used to practice for a performance at school with my teacher and my teacher is much much worse than her and we are not even dancing that much

She has to be strict. But she’s not like this dance instructor who makes the dancers feel bad about themselves. Lisa gives motivation and wants the dancers to do well and I respect her for that. I wouldn’t mind having her as my dance instructor.

@@Bambooty1234 plus she only corrects them for their moves, she doesn't lack their confidence...

Melysa Chan agree!

They audition for the exchange of fame for their dreams as the consequences they have to accept their path as a trainee..

Feliday Danica Gemillan conforming to physical abuse isn’t a path anyone should have to be ok with, yes sore muscles, lots of practice, calorie counting is some things that should maybe let slide but that was physical abuse any way you want to put it

@@ms.ariesintrovert1359 tbh. It's not all about the fame.....

I understanded that sentence you said at the end...

So I guess ur saying my family’s brutal- for forcing me to swim when I can’t and haven’t took any clases and always comparing me to my cousin-

i know, even when she is upset she shows no emotion i-

The teacher isn't the one who will perform on a stage at the end of the day...

search Karen in the dictionary and you’ll find her picture

Yes, I wanna kick her and throw her in the Pacific Ocean she is so rude ;-;

@@kchile4566 it’s not a Karen...it’s an entire. Different culture.

FLAMIN GGUK ifkr

They should do that. The real world is much cruel than them. The people can't see your hardwork. They will only see your mistakes so you must become a perfect human being to become a kpop idol to prevent people from bashing you.

Madame X so basically you’re saying because the world already operates like that it’s perfectly fine and we should adapt to it instead of changing it.

사탕사탕 they’re so rude ik

Of course companies may be nicer than this, or even worse... But also imagine the age range. Like Jihyo, wasn't she only 11 or something when she started??? I'd like to the these judges doing everything they've been doing.

plus the amount of dancing she does would probably burn all those calories up to rather like negative calories a day

Well, her goal (sadly) is to lose weight...

Them*

I’m mildly Bored. Apologies. calorie deficit it whats required for weight loss. unless you want to lose an absurd amount of weight in a short amount of time then you would choose a dangerously low kcal consumption like 300

Blackpink Lisa weighs 98.5 pounds, at the height she is rn, how much she weighs isn’t good for her.

That's not funny lol

Kiera lxoxxo I wasn’t trying to be funny I’m just being honest

Kiera lxoxxo That’s not savage lol

I dance like I haven't been conceived yet

I dance like a worm

Illusion. It's all a careful illusion.

Crimson Riot Yes, there will always be people who have it worse. But does that change the fact that they are suffering as well? Seriously, it's hella annoying when you put out a problem and someone goes: "YEAH, bUT thErE ARe PeOPLe ThAT-" YES, I KNOW. BUT A PROBLEM IS A PROBLEM. Go be stupid somewhere else -.-

I am a teen and I think I'm underweight cuz I'm the only girl that is 30++ kilogrammes

@Crimson Riot this isn't a competition about who has it worse sis.

@Crimson Riot I'm pretty sure that you shouldn't compare sufferings with one thing and another. A suffering is a suffering. If you get your entire limb fractured versus having a nail ripped off, would you say you can only complain about one of them? That's stupid.

I think i saw your account before in spill tea chanel lmao

I hope she debuts soon! She seems like a wonderful girl and I'd like to see more of her.

someone just fuckin save her from that shit hole omfg the entire kpop community is fucked.... she doesn’t deserve ever this, neither does any idol and trainee

I'll Stan her

What company is it?

:DD so happy for her

Where is she now?

I’m so happy for her ❤️

@euriio oh really? Thank God that bullshit entertainment got shut down. So happy for Mizuho, and for the rest of trainees💗

what why it shut down

U army?

*Also me: THE BIGGEST CRY BABY IN THE FAMILY!*

@@jungshookishrealuwu8787 Bahahahaha SAY NO MORE!!!

@@youknowannyonghaseyo929 pft when life just points out your weaknesses :)

​@Azdian of Shanoah DUDE we know, but whether or not she was pushing her down they were still forcing the poor girl to do something she obviously can't do naturally,

And how the other trainer pulled her?! That is just horrible!

My thigh tendons were damaged because of that. I was learning to dance when I was 11 I guess, and they replaced our regular teacher for a day. I knew kids were running out crying when he did lessons and now I understand why. I still suffer from that and I guess I'll never be graceful in my motions ever again.

I *was* a gymnast and we always do that when I was still new. It really hurts like heck.

That’s just how it is in Asia. It’s horrible yes but that’s just how it b.

Pretty sure someone got paralysed from the waist down doing that...

i mean it could be to make the company more known, like if they're flexible people are like "oh did you see this idol that is so flexible?" kinda like that

They'll be singing and dancing for quite an amount of time per day, if you're not flexible then you'll get stiffer and stiffer which can affect your performance on stage.. if you dont have charm/charisma then the only thing you can rely on is your performance

Agree!

That was terrifying. Little by little let her go down and be flexible. I mean she screamed and cried. Also said it hurt a lot😥

The fans will notice and bitch about it

I am trying to gain weight because of my BMI.

Yeah,that’s so sad. I don’t even celebrate April fools while they celebrate losing weight ☹️

they should celebrate it. they are one step closer to debuting

Fr like over in America im told I need to gain weight while in Korea they say I need to lose weight so like body standards in different places are hard to deal with especially when you move and visit countrys often

@@TT-sp5st True. It's better to not care what others think and just be confident in yourself. lol I started being that way and honestly, I prefer my confidence over other peoples opinions.

Sameeee

Hahahahah

Same.... hahahahah.......hah................*cries*

Waldel Martell how much is normal? Because I personally have only been eating 100-900 calories a day for like two years

@@lea5308 Omg- thats kind of low I think its supposed to be 2000 calories but...depends on age I guess

Unlike her, Lisa is the perfect dance teacher because her technique and way of teaching is far better. She points out the trainee's problems correctly and is not over the top, which is certainly why the trainees like her. She also understands their feelings and try to help them.

@@iisimplyamy8031 I get what you're tryna say but why bringing up Lisa? No one asked.

@@myheartwillstopinjoy8142 well, Lisa is a dance instructor and played that role in a tv show so i brought her up

@@iisimplyamy8031 oh I didn't know sorry

@@iisimplyamy8031 no one cares about Lisa here. This has nothing to do with her.

Mizyo Yanchan do you have a link i cant find her channel

@@adre.grace1 ukposts.info/the/rdJwSCa8dcybT6bTrgj6Dg.html this is her channel

yea me too😭

Phew

i havent got to the part yet and im tearing up reading the comment

The lady??? But she’s the trainer

@@shyshy5623 no, that old man in glasses

@@user-pb1gl8oi7s he needs to be send to jail, look how inappropriate he was, what a sadist!

Ew

disgusting

red scarf I hate these judges

She is. She needs more energy, have you even SEEN what TRUE professionals’ dances look like? No, of course not. These k pop idols need to be better, with all this training they should at LEAST look high school level, and that’s low.

He knows what he's talking about. If you've seen good dancers, you could compare to amateurs. None the less, i commend them for how hard they work

red scarf 🧣

Like WTF?? I know right

@Eszra Falcontail I agree, but some people also want to join K-Pop because it's their hobby, or liking. I wouldn't stop them if they can take this extreme training, but the K-Pop industry treats humans like machines, which I hate. I feel like idols should perform of their own free will and not on the leash of their company

@@perfectgamerkitty4717 turning hobbies into work is a big mistake. There are some companies that give adequate freedom to their artists but most are controlling.

@@gotthecutenessoverload1086 I agree 😢

K-pop in nutshell

I’m a fan, but they’re all basically groups of manufactured people for girls to idolize about

As @@MrDaol23 says

@@DuckyVille Why do you like them ?

Thanks for saying that @@victori-ori. Keep up the good fight! The start is for people to realise the issues. With that attention, something can be done about it. It's because of the attention that things have started to change. I spoke to a trainee friend of mine, and he agreed things have started to become much better now compared to before, and I think that's because of all the extra attention and pressure from overseas fans that won't stand for the bad treatment of the idols/trainees.

@credited well you didn't heard about 'SM VS. chinese trainees'

@credited "those filthy chinese trainees" LMAO sorry you racist. SM spent their money to debut them yes of course, but they are less paid, treated less well and treated like toys compare to korean trainees, SO YEAH they go back home you idiot. Btw Chen is not chinese but Lay is.

@credited you got something against us Chinese people?

FlamingFang || Yeah prolly. Her/His comment just proved they were racist.

@credited Lol, good way to prove everyone wrong, I don't think you're doing a good job in convincing they're not prejudice.