How to fight Tigers - Tactics & Weaknesses
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5 років томуHow did the Soviets and Western Allies deal with Panzer VI Tiger? There were different approaches like tactics, but also exploiting weaknesses or limiting the combat effectiveness of the Tiger. This video explains various methods used, their effectiveness and in many cases refers directly primary sources.
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Camo-Reference from Tank Encyclopedia, Illustrations by David Bocquelet
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@F-14DSuperTomcat 4 роки тому
Thank you for this video. My school district had a problem with school buses being ambushed by Tigers on the highways. Now every school bus is equipped with 4 Bren Machine Guns and 1 17 pounder anti tank gun to deal with them. Havent had a tiger problem since.
@michaelwier1222 4 роки тому
Pocket drones for air cover?
@Mangos1021 4 роки тому
Concealed carry LMG?
@user-bx1tu6le4v 4 роки тому
As a battalion S-2 safety officer, I recommend your district to change the 17pounder to a 152mm gun or ATGM launcher.
@KawakazeAkiCh 4 роки тому
Wrong,being kv2
@jamesberlo4298 4 роки тому
Its amazing that they still survived 17 Pounder & 152 MM Gun's ?
@EneTheGene 5 років тому
Good tutorial, but you're like 76 years late.
@tomi9562 4 роки тому
Ene gene but you never know
@anamerican2305 4 роки тому
It’s the thought that counts
@Gentleman...Driver 4 роки тому
Maybe usefull when time traveling is a thing.
@foxdavion6865 4 роки тому
Useful in World of Tanks though.
@tophatdalekthetophatteddal7402 4 роки тому
@@foxdavion6865 war thunder is better
@bplup6419 4 роки тому
"What is the best way to deal with the Tiger." Have a superior economy, wartime production and complete air support.
@Arigator2 4 роки тому
The problem was that even if every Tiger destroyed 15 Shermans that wasn't really a win. The US could build more than 15 Shermans for every Tiger. Shermans were rolling off assembly lines in auto factories and Tigers were hand made. A lot of the Shermans simply had the crew killed. The shells would go straight through. They'd patch the holes and paint over the blood and send it back out.
@chadjustice8560 4 роки тому
@@Arigator2 Alot of shermans simpled had the crew killed? What? I don't understand this statement. The sherman had one of if not the highest crew survival rates of the war
@Arigator2 4 роки тому
@@chadjustice8560 - That is a silly statement. Most Shermans never even saw a German tank. It's like saying that German fighter pilots were superior because they shot down more planes each. Of course they did most American pilots couldn't even find a German plane.
@chadjustice8560 4 роки тому
@@Arigator2 You do know the Americans were not the only ones to us the sherman right? As a whole it has the highest because the British and Russians used it so the Sherman's saw plenty of enemy amour.
@dukecraig2402 4 роки тому
@@Arigator2 That's wrong, the survival rate for Sherman crewmen was higher than any other combat job in the ETO, it was higher than Infantry and even aircrews, the fact is most of the time a Sherman got knocked out the crew or at least most of them survived, and those are percentages not overall numbers.
@endlesnights3817 5 років тому
The real secrete to defeating these kitties was the Mark 2 Spray Bottle equipped with a canister of liquid H20.
@fulcrum2951 5 років тому
Secrete
@blockboygames5956 5 років тому
Brilliant. And effective.
@FRFFW 4 роки тому
Kv2
@mathewrichardson7846 4 роки тому
“Sherman runs away from the tiger, and then grabs his new bottle labeled 17-pounder. He ambushes the cat with the bottle and drives it off, away from his food.”
@farmerman7947 4 роки тому
EndlesNights I don’t get it
@dankmemes2354 4 роки тому
Bruh instructions unclear, was eaten
@sirmanmcdude508 4 роки тому
Soviet strategy was basically "If hitting it isn't working... *THEN HIT IT HARDER!"*
@axelmilan4292 4 роки тому
When in doubt, throw more troops at it!
@user-bx1tu6le4v 4 роки тому
The hand of comrade Stalin will strike your enemy, no worries
@podemosurss8316 4 роки тому
@@axelmilan4292 In this case, more heavy artillery shells
@thehiddenpyro1983 4 роки тому
SirMan McDude load a flamethrower with vodka
@joelhessling4709 4 роки тому
If 76mm doesn't work use 85m. if that doesn't work use 122mm if that doesn't work use 152mm if that doesn't work just wait for it to break down.
@garickblack4302 5 років тому
It’s really admirable that you made a whole new video rather than just an annotation.
@LinucNerd 5 років тому
Well, they were removed long ago, annotations that is. But yeah, he could have just made a pinned comment and left it at that, but a lot of people won't check that stuff, so it's good that he re-did the video a bit x)
@mcglynn20 5 років тому
@@LinucNerd Wait, they've removed annotations? Why?
@LinucNerd 5 років тому
@@mcglynn20 I don't know, UKposts just decided to remove them... I think it was around may the 1st 2018.
@ieuanhunt552 5 років тому
It takes a brave man (or woman) to admit his mistakes. It takes a dedicated man to remove (potentially) 100s of hours of work because it's wrong and not only that but put *even* more work uploading a corrected version up. People sometimes say that you should never apologise, never show weakness, those are people with no integrity. Don't trust those people, this guy has integrity he can be trusted.
@thatdude1435 5 років тому
Thats some proper german way of doing things! Straight up admireable!
@kindafishy6248 5 років тому
Dakka? I see, you are a man of culture aswell.
@certaindeath7776 3 роки тому
is there such a thing as enough dakka?
@cmdrgarbage1895 3 роки тому
@@certaindeath7776 Never, moar dakka
@PointReflex 5 років тому
How to defeat a TIGER: 1) Grab a pocket laser light. 2) Turn it on in front of the Tiger. 3) Move it in a zig-zag path towards the Anti-Tank gun hidden in the forest, it would be tempting to move it towards your Comrade Commissair, it is NOT recomended but a posibility if you are in for a good laugh. 4) Watch the kitten reach the Valhala for being distracted by a red dot in the grass.
@azgarogly 5 років тому
That's true, except there was T-60 light tank instead of red dot and it was a real wartime episode.
@johanneduardschnorr3733 5 років тому
You have just confirmed that you are my favorite UKposts historian! Correcting your first video on the subject shows a great deal of ethical responsibility that is often lacking in the historical community. Kudos to you, as a much older gentleman, I am proud to be a patreon supporter. Keep up the great content!
@samiam619 5 років тому
John Schnarr Since you like this guy, look up “The History Guy” on YT. You won’t be disappointed.
@ahorsewithnoname643 4 роки тому
Years ago I read an autobiography of a NZ tank crewman of his experiences in Italy. He recalled that his unit did not use AP or HE against Tigers but used smoke, preferably the US round rather than the British one. His preference for US smoke rounds was that the smoke produced was thicker and stayed at ground level longer than the British round His story was the smoke would get inside and choke the crew. Side effects were to point out the Tigers position to everyone and make it a bullet magnet.
@ahorsewithnoname643 4 роки тому
@John Cornell Have you heard of the term 'mission kill'? That is, you prevent the enemy from conducting the mission they want. Any way I wasn't there, I am only relating an entry in a book written by a guy who was.
@matteoorlandi856 5 років тому
"if you run into tiger in your way to school..." a man can wish. a man can wish...
@scottleft3672 4 роки тому
I had to settle for just an old Krupp 7.7cm from WW1 outside my old school....but it was awsome.
@tophatdalekthetophatteddal7402 4 роки тому
@big ian Pfft, all you need is an Achilles
@AlexanderSeven 5 років тому
As if there was not enough cat videos on the internet!
@captainmaim 4 роки тому
MOAR CATS!!!!
@Grimmwoldds 4 роки тому
Germany was prohibited from making tanks, so they disguised them as zoo purchases. "We're not building tanks. We're buying cuddly cats to make petting zoos." Of course, sufficient one armed children were also produced to complete the ruse.
@MRCLXWN03 4 роки тому
That's for sure!
@vmarek98 5 років тому
Just here for the algorithm, and out of respect for the way you corrected your mistake.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 5 років тому
thank you, there is also at least 1 minute more new information in there.
@vmarek98 5 років тому
@@MilitaryHistoryVisualized yeah, just noticed :D thanks for the reminder tho! You are doing great work!
@The_Greedy_Orphan 5 років тому
"What should you do if you come across a Tiger in the jungle?" "Wipe it off and apologise".
@matt91476 5 років тому
hahaha classic!
@markcantemail8018 4 роки тому
Yes Matt is right . Great Tactic .
@zjotheglorious 3 роки тому
i dont get it
@lahma69 4 роки тому
Your clear dedication to fixing previous errors, noting errors in primary and secondary sources, and giving clear credit and thanks to those who have helped you find and document these errors should be applauded. In the age that we live in, where talk is cheap, and anyone can say anything with little to no evidence or sources to back up his claims, this dedication to documenting and sourcing clear and concise information that will last is noble and should be praised.
@HistoryGameV 5 років тому
Sooo...the general Orkish tactic of MORE DAKKA is not that ineffective after all?
@nguyentrunghieu8806 5 років тому
well I have bad news for you guardsman, there is never enough dakka...
@lcmiracle 5 років тому
Ou, 'umies! AIz tell ya wuz da Prubluumme uf MOAR DAKKA iz: ya seez -- wez orkz ar da biggesz, baddiesz, tuffiez fingz in da wurldz, boot, aven en Ork haz onle sa much dakka hez kan carri, sez? Onze da dakka hez haz runz ut, whaz da en Ork gotta use? MOOOAAAARR CHOOOOPA! WAAAAGGGHHH!!!!!!
@5peciesunkn0wn 5 років тому
Iff it wuzzn't effektiv, why dah 'ell wud we not want more dakka, ye git?! WAAAAAAAGH!
@Dolphin665784 5 років тому
r/unexpectedwarhammer
@thomastheawesome4822 5 років тому
Oi! I'Z TRYN' TA SLEEP YA GIT!!! I'LL KRUMP YA GITS LIKE SNOTLING!
@SantiFiore 5 років тому
Deja Vu, I've just seen this video before 🎵
@kevingalego 5 років тому
Higher on the street
@lorenzotual7109 5 років тому
And I know it's my time to go
@alexbeau348 5 років тому
Calling you, and the search is a myster
@lucaswatson1913 5 років тому
y standing on my feet
@riykin 5 років тому
honestly, were the same. i feel like ive been in this place before
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 5 років тому
Thank you to Илья Фоменко (Ilya Fomenko), Peter from Tank Archives and Dr. Roman Töppel! Videos with Dr. Roman Töppel look at these: Working with Veterans: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/mqqXf52di4V0x2w.html Speer & the Panzerwaffe: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/qnikrYWPiK5ey5c.html Check out Peter's Blog here: tankarchives.blogspot.com/
@DC9622 5 років тому
Military History Visualized, the British obtained the OKH instruction “the Tiger can no longer prance around the Battlefield etc” June 1944 during Normandy. Is Guderian late to events? See David Fletcher book Tiger: The Tiger Tank a British View. 1986, page 201. A coup would be to get either of the two David’s to take you through the information detailed in the book, on the War time Analysis of Tiger on video. Fantastic book if you can find an original. The Italian Campaign ORS report Who killed Tiger, is worth a read, you would find it interesting given this video.
@quintonlim4275 5 років тому
Hello Military History Visualised. Do you take video requests? A topic I would find interesting would be declining powers. A video tackling the reasons why these nations lost their influence over the years would be pretty neat. Some examples would be Austria and the Spanish Empire.
@karlhans6678 5 років тому
Did you say the Tiger carried s mines on it?!
@DC9622 5 років тому
Karl Hans yes they had S Mine dispensers. Alfred Rubbel has a good explanation of there use.
@joeses4162 5 років тому
@@DC9622 Is it not the OKW you mean?
@criffermaclennan 5 років тому
Catnip is also very effective
@scottleft3672 4 роки тому
The idea is to destroy it, not tickle it.
@CatAdvantage 4 роки тому
scott left r/woooosh
@arthoryos322 5 років тому
This would have been useful. 76 YEARS AGO
@LordInter 4 роки тому
as the video said, the British could stop them in Tunisia
@MothaLuva 4 роки тому
Lord Inter So it’s the fault of the British they didn’t watch the video.
@Activated_Complex 5 років тому
As always, your attention to detail is impressive. And nice call-out to the commentators who left constructive and well-informed feedback.
@jankorinek2397 4 роки тому
I must say I admire you for the thoroughnes and precision of your videos. I think you keep adhering to the highest standards possible. Thumbs up!
@mrflibble9783 5 років тому
David Render suggested in his book 'Tank Action' that when at close range with German heavy armour, the Sherman 75s in his unit would use HE ammo. With the idea that you could either disable the tracks, or damage periscopes/sights etc and force the tank to withdrawer. There was also 1 encounter, where a Sherman got off 10 rounds of AP at a Tiger at less than 100 yards. They all failed to penetrate, but the smoke from the shells around the tiger from the tracer propellant, made the Tiger crew believe the tank was on fire and they bailed. Leaving behind a perfectly working Tiger tank with 8th Armoured Brigade.
@yankee_0013 4 роки тому
the german crew must be having an epic bruh moment when they were captured and saw their tank being repaired on their way to being POWs LMFAO
@banegas0411 4 роки тому
the 76 could go straight through the front even with out hvap look at the m4a3e8
@QueenTheCossackTongued 4 роки тому
Unlucky considering the Sherman 75mm at 100 meters can penetrate the front of the Tiger with its ap shell.
@mrflibble9783 4 роки тому
@@QueenTheCossackTongued No, it can't. David Render, Tank action has an example of Sherman doing just that, firing 10 or 12 AP shells at glacis of Tiger and no penetration. (as explained above) Mailed Fist, by John Foley has an example of a Churchill 75mm (same ammo as sherman) firing 3 shots at the front of a Tiger, and failing to penetrate. Don't get fooled by allied pentration tests, they were fired against allied armour plate, significantly softer than German face hardened armour. So penetration during those tests, doesn't translate exactly to real life performance in the field.
@QueenTheCossackTongued 4 роки тому
@@mrflibble9783 75mm L/40 (M3/M6) firing M61 versus FHA with a muzzle velocity of 618 m/s (2,030 ft/s) had 102mms of penetration at 100meters.
@F1ghteR41 5 років тому
1:57 Never pet a wild tiger, kids. 2:46 Now you see why petting zoos are banned in Russia. 12:30 In such a situation you're likely being ambushed, ergo, screwed.
@scottleft3672 4 роки тому
Tigers fur is like a brillo pad, not soft at all....this was a live tiger...i don't know what skinned and treated fur is like thankfully.
@pdr_2703 5 років тому
War Thunder Tactic: *SHOOT AT ANY PLACE*
@tomi9562 4 роки тому
P.D.R world of tanks tactics: can't pen can't pen aaaannnnnd can't pen
@randomguy-ns2tc 4 роки тому
@@tomi9562 meanwhile at tier 3 Panzer 3: hello there
@tomi9562 4 роки тому
Adam Kowalski yeah IN GAME but if it was reality you wouldnt even have chance to aim when tiger already shot your crew and tank
@banegas0411 4 роки тому
@@tomi9562 no the m4 had a stabilizer the gun could be ready to fire before any german and it was 2 to 1 for shermans to kill a tiger as it was the first one to shoot who would win
@Ypog_UA 4 роки тому
that flat front plate is looks so juicy to an 85mm zis-5
@cleanerben9636 5 років тому
I nevet gotto watch the video before the correction. This was well done and informative.
@pwnpawn 5 років тому
Here to support your correction. Well done on making a fully corrected video (for future visitors). Respect.
@tramachi7027 4 роки тому
As the Chieftain said: "The less likely something is to destroy a tank, the more effective it is against tanks!"
@officialromanhours 2 роки тому
Thank you for this video. My schoolmate was recently killed by a Tiger II while walking to class. We have been mourning this great loss by killing every Tiger we see, the Is and the Cats too
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 2 роки тому
sorry for your loss, it is people like him why I make these videos.
@tylermorrison420 10 місяців тому
@@MilitaryHistoryVisualized😂❤
@Alfredo_413 4 роки тому
Thank you, this will come in handy. I can't wait to test out these strategies.
@jacklodge8560 3 роки тому
love the effort put into this video :) great job
@TheSeanoops 5 років тому
5:54 There is never enough DAKKA. I love the 40 K reference by the way.
@oleanderkazzy_ 4 роки тому
Thank you so much, man. Now I can destroy that stupid Tiger tank my school bully always drive.
@bchin4005 5 років тому
Thank you for the reupload!
@Coreythebartender 4 роки тому
Great video. Always a joy to watch
@ghostoioi2617 4 роки тому
Thanks you never know when your gonna run into a tiger tank but when I do I'll definently be prepared now thank you for this valuable information whew
@MaxRavenclaw 5 років тому
Yup, 2400 yards does make a lot more sense than 2000 yards. Cheers!
@testhamster123 5 років тому
are you the same MaxRavenclaw from r/DerSchiesser?
@MaxRavenclaw 5 років тому
Yes, I have the same reddit username. Hopefully you're part of the group who understands DerSchiesser is a joke sub. I've had people accuse me of a lot of stuff for modding DerSchiesser, because they couldn't be asked to even read the description of the sub.
@testhamster123 5 років тому
@@MaxRavenclaw Yeah I know its memes, its one of my favorite subreddits actually. Its an honor to run into you in the wild sir. o7
@MaxRavenclaw 5 років тому
Cheers, mate!
@alexanderwaite9403 3 роки тому
Excellent as always.
@WolfandCatUnite 3 роки тому
always great video
@snagethegreat5497 5 років тому
Loved the 40k reference
@schocktrooper7557 5 років тому
Nice Vid! Could you make one about the IS-2?
@rburns531 5 років тому
Thank You! Very well done! Oohraah!
@Phalanx443 5 років тому
Very well done, thank you!
@MrFabulousFB 5 років тому
The gun that won the war xD can still remember the lindybeige video in which he was making up some really weird infantry tactics. I was like wtf is he telling during the whole video. really like how you are open up to critique and just focus on delivering the most accurate historical contend on youtube i found so far
@roadrunner6224 5 років тому
Just here because of the algorithm
@MasterMalrubius 5 років тому
The Al Gore Ithm knows all. It sees all.
@scottleft3672 4 роки тому
That'd be "4score years and 10".
@MGB-learning 2 роки тому
Another outstanding video and presentation.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 2 роки тому
Glad you enjoyed it
@jeffkeith637 4 роки тому
Great work.
@BubbatheFeraligatr 5 років тому
1:54 that's one hell of a tiger
@JamesSavik 4 роки тому
I remember hearing an old tanker say his favorite tactic for dealing with a Tiger was to call in an air strike.
@casbot71 4 роки тому
What would be the ideal plane to take out a 🐅 Tiger? Not the heaviest, the minimum that could be sent to do the job and do it well.
@JamesSavik 4 роки тому
@@casbot71 Lot's of Allied aircraft were tasked with air to mud missions but I think the most effective was the P-37 Thunderbolt
@travisrolison9646 4 роки тому
@@JamesSavik p47 thunderbolt with 500lbs bombs or 5 inch rockets. Also the Soviet sturmovick(spelling?) Was pretty good at it. If desperate do what the USA did in the bocage country. Fly b24 and b17s wingtip to wing tip and carpet bomb the whole area for miles. I read a book where the German tankers talked about how terrifying it was when they saw 70 ton tiger 2s flip over from the explosions.
@828enigma6 4 роки тому
There was a Major who was a forward observer for artillery in a little observation aircraft. He decided to join in the fun, and had 6 or eight 2.75" bazookas mounted on his wing struts, with controls to fire them from the pilots seat. Don't know how many armored vehicles he took out, but he had the nickname of Bazooka Charlie. As hull and turret armor upper surfaces were much thinner, it should have been quite effective if he scored a hit.
@saintadolf5639 3 роки тому
@@828enigma6 I believe he had zero kills- no matter what anyone claims. A bazooka's max effective range was 110 meters.
@cliveashleyhamilton 5 років тому
These videos are so clear and well narrated
@samstewart4807 5 років тому
ANOTHER EXCELLENT VIDEO!
@CountSpartula 5 років тому
Step 1: Acquire HVAP ammo Step 2: Aim and shoot Step 3: Profit (*Process may or may not be entirely accurate, user caution advised. Spartula Industries is not liable for any and all damages due to the Anti-Tiger 3-Step Plan)
@ahmaddiyhaa1130 5 років тому
Very good vid Can you pls make a vid about Kv-2?
@user-uq1bq5wq4w 4 роки тому
I would rather want to see what the Russians were thinking about the t-34, and the kv-1
@milopuffs4716 3 роки тому
Lol I love these videos. Informative, historically accurate, yet charmingly witty. Great energy, great channel. Stay outstanding sir! 🤘😉
@jacksmith3189 5 років тому
Good information Thanks
@gimmedat5541 5 років тому
How to defeat a tiger: Step 1. Deploy cucumber Step 2. Watch the kitty freak out Done, there you have it! 😎
@leftcoaster67 5 років тому
Rommel. You magnificent bastard I read your book!
@gusbuckingham6663 5 років тому
Actually it was a book on Forrest's tactics that they both read.
@peasant8246 4 роки тому
Something to note about the graph at 1:00, if the situation doesn't look too bad for the T-34, remember that German penetration criteria assumes the impact occurs at 30° side angle. Without it the T-34 could probably be destroyed from the front at over 1500m.
@user-hi6nz5vy9r 2 роки тому
Thank you man Still useful
@rajinkajin7293 5 років тому
I love how you spell miau! In America, we spell it meow, or mew for their shorter vocalizations. Unless I got wooshed lol
@ernestasjarmak9884 4 роки тому
It's also miau in lithuanian.
@techno_tuna 5 років тому
In regards to the tracks and copula(and similar weak points) I know the soviets kept the PTRS and PTRD in service till the end of the war, are there any records of confirmed hits on tigers using those weapons? That might explain the "striking frequency" with which the copula was hit/damaged.
@doktork3406 5 років тому
the PTRS and PTRD cannot penetrate the cupola those can damage it but not penetrate it the PTRS/D were good at penetrating Panther's 40mm side armor plates , flat on at close ranges the tiger's 50mm(pretty sure it's 50) rounded cupola cannot be pierced however , the vision spots( not a native english speaker, sorry) made of glass could be harmed
@jintarokensei3308 4 роки тому
Thanks, now I know what to do next time.
@charliemorris2338 5 років тому
Excellent!
@JohnDoe-on6ru 4 роки тому
Didn't see thumbnail was expecting tips on fighting animals
@Stratigoz 5 років тому
Who would win? War Thunder boi in the comment section or MHV's sources?
@Phil-mk6kb 5 років тому
Hitting the cupola isn't really that hard dude, especially in a range under 500 meters. Yet I think it's not as effective as shooting other weak points of the Tiger. For me shooting the cupola only kills commander most of the times, if I'm lucky the turret crew is dead. But there are more effective possibilities like trapshooting the turret ring or shooting the gun mantlet. And lastly, War Thunders physics engine is good but not real life comparable so there will always be some kind of discrepancy, in one patch a T-34 will hit cupola and kill the whole turret, in another one, it will hardly do anything. wait ... am I arguing with a filthy World of Tanks casual who needs gold ammo to reliably pen Tiger in his T-34 85 and zooms across the battlefield with 60 km/h? ughhhh
@farmerman7947 5 років тому
John Lucas fuck WOT Jewish gold ammo
@mr.waffentrager4400 5 років тому
War thunder boi is much more experienced...
@urbanmech8064 5 років тому
@@mr.waffentrager4400 not really...
@mr.waffentrager4400 5 років тому
@@urbanmech8064 yes war thunder boi is more experienced about stats but not much about history ....but interest about history comes with time
@boowiebear 3 роки тому
The biggest threat to the Tiger was their small numbers. 1350 built compared to 50k of Sherman and T34. Even with large K/D ratios, it was not a sufficient super weapon to make up for the sheer volume discrepancy. Great videos!
@lordanonimmo7699 Рік тому
I would say their biggest disavantage was lack of air support,US simply bombarbed places with tigers instead of fighting with their tanks,super wasteful but they could afford and saved many lives.
@lilsix9218 3 роки тому
thank for sharing your time and thought for us. your video so helpful for me specially for player of wot and wt this is so important. to kill a beast every game.
@danieldeak9141 4 роки тому
Just fire HE shells at it. The inner mechanisms Will l break from the shockwave eventually.
@tophatdalekthetophatteddal7402 4 роки тому
Eventually
@sc4044 4 роки тому
not really, you need alot of shots to disable the tank you would probably be shot by the tiger
@shaloamnenja12yearsago29 4 роки тому
Now, are you sure a 76mm he would send enough shock to disable a drivetrain or gun through 100mm of armor?
@brannonmeador1792 4 роки тому
Shaloam Nenja • 12 years ago you wouldn’t need to, the 76 amp could penetrate the 100mm of armor
@andrewlynch4126 5 років тому
For the algorithm!!!!!
@DaveSCameron 5 років тому
Arrogant and clever.... you'll get far!
@UliMuliko 4 роки тому
This will come handy
@ihategooglealot3741 3 роки тому
Fine video - Tiger 1's perfectly respectable speed is often ignored too. Worth noting that where the Wermacht encountered superior armour at a point such as KV1 and Matilda2 their solutions were similar to those the allies settled on.
@sirboot1630 5 років тому
now with 100% less errors guaranteed
@NoobNoob-ss5hs 5 років тому
Angle? *[Laughs in SU-152]*
@YurkoYuriev 4 роки тому
Effective range? *laughs in Obj. 263*
@brendanlegault9137 5 років тому
very nice
@657449 4 роки тому
Training and preparation are important. The crew has to be trained to work as a team. The sights for the main gun have to be where the round will hit. Fifty years ago I used a split image rangefinder and there was a trick to consistently be on target. You could turn the adjusting wheel until the images lined up but there was some play before you noticed the images separating. That could cause a miss. The trick we used was to range up from the lower end until the images lined up.
@felixh9363 5 років тому
Tiger: Nobody can defeat me!!! *T-34 No.315 joins the chat* *T-34 No.724 joins the chat* *T-34 No.1548 joins the chat* *SU-85 No.317 joins the chat* *T-34-85 No.14 joins the chat* *T-34 No.3416 joins the chat* *KV-1 No.26 joins the chat* *T-34 No.29156 joins the chat* *T-34 No.1352 joins the chat* *SU-85 No. 257 joins the chat*
@cynderfan2233 5 років тому
Only 9? The average Tiger's kill ratio was 10 to 1.
@felixh9363 5 років тому
@@cynderfan2233 here you are
@trololoev 4 роки тому
@@cynderfan2233 soviet anti-tank rifle destroy tiger caterpillar ring. german waste on repair more tome, then russian on making new tank.
@ramenramen8072 4 роки тому
*M4A3 No.1 joins the chat* *M4A3 No.2 joins the chat*
@YoRHaUnit2Babe 4 роки тому
*KV-2 joins the chat*
@kros5983 5 років тому
"If you run into tigers on your way to school, you know what to do." "YEAH, LEMME JUST WHIP OUT MY ANTI-TANK RIFLE AND MOLOTOV, HM??"
@jeffreymcdonald8267 4 роки тому
Well done sir. JS1 and JS2 were seriously underrated. Hans Ulrich Rudel lost a leg going back to check out the first JS1 he ever encountered. Anti-aircrft fire, almost certainly not from a tank.
@vincepanico1008 3 роки тому
Faust and beterman talked of this Russian tactic on their books And tha ks for the great videos.
@viridisxiv766 5 років тому
heres a question, what calibre weapon does an aircraft need to threaten a tiger? or any other panzer?
@PaganShredhead 5 років тому
Has to hit first, which was virtually impossible.
@hobbie9071 5 років тому
I would say it depends on where you hit it. To my mind the soviet 23mm on IL2's would be quite effective against the rear deck of the hull. But something in the 37-50mm range would be needed for hits to the sides and rear.
@DickHolman 5 років тому
The Molins modified QF 6-pounder (57mm) proved very effective.
@PaganShredhead 5 років тому
No, worked quite well against lightly and unarmored vehicles. The amount of tanks actually destroyed by aircraft during WW2 was negligible.
@TheArgieH 5 років тому
In one of my books regarding the Spitfire at war (wish I could find it again) there is an interesting anecdote. Late in the war somewhere in France a Spitfire pilot saw a German tank retreating at speed along a metalled road. Despite thinking it fairly futile he let it have the benefit of his 20mm and 303 load, then went home. Later advancing British troops encountered a burnt out German tank covered in French graffiti the main sentiment of which being "nice one R A F!". Subsequent investigation and examination seemed to indicate that some of the 20mm rounds had ricocheted off the road surface into the underbelly of the tank with its thinner armour. If correct, it seems luck can be as important as calibre.
@vesyle7900 4 роки тому
War Thunder Veterans: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
@warthundervideodumps 2 роки тому
Thank you for this. This will surely help on War Thunder
@edwardvincentbriones5062 4 роки тому
The 100 mm gun (the D-10S) was developed for the SU-100 tank destroyer. Also, the long barreled 122 mm A-19 gun was also mounted on the IS tanks (IS-2 and IS-3) and was designated D25-T.
@Kimosabes2hot 5 років тому
I was expecting like, an actual tiger. With claws. That bites. The animal.
@stann.4443 3 роки тому
The 17 pounder works on both.
@Slayer_Jesse 5 років тому
Internet commenters on WoT/WT: Cupola sniping is unrealistic! Red Army AT Gunners: *Laughs in bolshevik*
@iatsd 5 років тому
Speaking (formerly) professionally, it *is* unrealistic. These days. In ww2? Perhaps, but only if you have a death wish. While he quoted sunshine commenting on the high rates of damage to cupolas that tells you nothing about the rate at which they were targeted because the cupola is more susceptible to damage. Fire 100 rounds at a target and get, say, 50 hits. Of those a random number hit the cupola ah be cause important damage. The r rest hit elsewhere and do nothing. Which hits are you going to note the most? I can guarantee it will be the damaging hits. Maybe they're aiming for the weak point. Maybe they aren't. You can't tell until you count all hits over time. Given the quality of Russian training in ww2 I doubt that telling them to aim for X small point (when it was such a small percentage shot) was a winning strategy. A winning strategy is telling them to hold fire until within damaging range, aim to hit, get as many gifts on target as fast as possible, and btw these are some weak points if you feel up to it.
@nottoday3817 5 років тому
@@iatsd Dude, can you stop treating the Russians in a Patton-style view? No my friend, they were no significantly less trained than any other 18 year old dude coming out of an American school and joining infantry. Tank commanders actually got more training than the germans as far as I remember. And for gunners: If there was something Russians were good at, that thing was artillery. They had some amazing artillery schools and weapons to go with them. So no, aiming for a weakspot is not out of the ordinary, And I should point out something else: HOW YOU ENGAGE. Like on those 'where to fire' leaflets delievered to the Red Army soldiers and Western Allies as well, you usually have the angle of firing as well. Commanders cupola is a point you can aim for if you were the 'bait' of the fire pocket [in the battle of Kursk, soviet anti-tank units developed a tactic, where they would be split into 2 or 3, one being placed in front of the direction the enemy is expected to arrive. They would be the bait, firing from a position as strong as possible. On the side of the position, you would have the other AT guns. Now, if the Tiger does not take the bait and still is out of the fire pocket(aka the side is not exposed) those could also aim for the cupola. ]
@TotalRookie_LV 5 років тому
An anti-material / sniper rifles have long barrels and pretty large caliber. I _wonder,_ does this description have something in common with artillery?
@lovepeace9727 4 роки тому
@@nottoday3817 Well... best pilot of allies - Kozhedub best sniper of allies - Pavlichenko best gunner of allies - Nuzurbaev And etc. They had not only best artillery.
@thekinginyellow1744 3 роки тому
What he left out when he mentioned Otto Carius being nearly killed when his cupola was hit, was that on the early "Tigers" the hatch opened upward, making it a easy target, as well as a flag to the soviet gunners that hatch was open. They would fire HE at the raised hatch cover, and and the cover would cause the blast to deflect downward into the tank. The later tigers had had a different cupola design, and the hatch slid sideways rather than pivoting upwards.
@SNIperofDARKness02 3 роки тому
8:24 Nice Lindybeige shot.
@benquinneyiii7941 2 роки тому
Iconic
@Nyctophiliac. 5 років тому
*laughs in an M3 Stuart* have fun trying to get that turret to keep up with me
@archer8849 4 роки тому
Tiger: have fun trying to penetrate me
@DudemeisterNL 4 роки тому
That's not an issue when you are spotted and fired upon from 1000 yards out
@shaloamnenja12yearsago29 4 роки тому
Imagine being a wot player
@thethirdman225 3 роки тому
Thom E. How many rounds do you think it’s going to take to hit a moving target at that range?
@rexkraft_ 2 роки тому
Laughs in M-22 not only outmaneuvering them, but being so small that it just cannot be targeted when it is too close. Have fun being killed by a child
@stooge_mobile 5 років тому
Here for the Al Gore Rhythm
@DCRivs 4 роки тому
Wow, this is incredibly detailed! Great work here friend. Have you played Panzer?
@shadowcat6lives639 5 років тому
Yay I can watch it now
@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 5 років тому
It's easy, wait for Gaijin to nerf and upteir to fight tanks 30-40 years more advanced.. Oh wait this is real life never mind.
@felixh9363 5 років тому
So true... my poor Tiger H1....
@nicholasg5714 5 років тому
@@felixh9363 get good.
@thebravegallade731 5 років тому
In WT, tigers fight against vehicles with similar standoff distances VS tiger. However tiger could angle.
@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 5 років тому
@@thebravegallade731 Except all of the maps require you be in close quarters comparatively, enemies have stabilisers, high velocity guns, and Heat FS that negates distance meaning by time you see them, stop moving, range the shot, and fire they have killed you 6x over. I gave up on Germany at 6.7 and played the Russian tree and realised just how easy warthunder can be it's honestly like switching on hacks. I go from 1-2 kill games average to 5-8 kill games. Anyone who claims there is no bias is completely deluded.
@nicholasg5714 5 років тому
@@TwoPlusTwoEqualsFive32 lmao back when the tiger was low BR and the only dangerous tank it could've engaged was the T-44, it was op as fuck back in the day. don't expect to become otto carius when you unlock the tiger, many vehicles face the same problems and they have to deal with it, you Germans arent special and dont need any special treatment.
@cantstoptommy7077 4 роки тому
Lol, just saw “the MG that won the war...” reference at 8:23. Very funny! Wonder if Lindybeige has seen this?!
@SuperPershing- 4 роки тому
Ooh, fancy!
@rotgutthebloated4730 4 роки тому
Im using these informations for world of tanks
@JesusRodriguez-jw5en 4 роки тому
¡En verdad fue muy interesante, gracias por el vidéo, saludos desde la Ciudad de México!
@kleomenis456 2 роки тому
Good coordination
@robcrusoe 4 роки тому
Ja..Herr Flick thanks for that
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