Why Gears Must Always Slide Against Each Other, and How To Design A Gear For Any Shape
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How do you design the perfect gear to partner with a given shape? It's tempting to think the way to do it is to treat both gears as if they're rolling on each other without slipping, but it turns out most gears by their very nature must slip as they spin. Why is that?
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0:00 - Wheels are not gears!
2:03 - What's wrong with wheels?
5:32 - Ground News ad
7:21 - How to design actual gears
12:07 - Envelopes
18:50 - Parametrizing an orbiting gear
22:04 - Computing the envelope
25:22 - Example gear pairs
29:05 - Resolving road-wheel clipping
30:39 - Outro
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The animation of the moving point of contact between two gears comes from Claudio Rocchini. Original source: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
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@morphocular 16 днів тому
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@prbmax 16 днів тому
Thanks. Even without knowing or having all the math skills, I still learned much.
@lovishnahar1807 15 днів тому
very good video sir, but can you plz try to make video related to calculus and infinities , also matrix and why determinant as area moreover why cross product can be calculated as determinant, just what is linear algebra
@iteragami5078 14 днів тому
Interesting video! I was wondering if you can create a gear pair for a fractal shape such as a Koch snowflake or the coastline of a country?
@haipingcao2212 10 днів тому
Make more vids for this
@haipingcao2212 10 днів тому
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@guymcproblems7972 16 днів тому
As a mechanical engineer, I feel qualified enough to say this an amazing way to look at gear design. Definitely a different perspective than Ive seen, but I enjoy seeing it from someone with more of a math than engineering background
@nikkiofthevalley 16 днів тому
Obviously there are major things that this video doesn't take into account, but would this algorithm work at all for real-life gears, not caring about inefficiencies or wear?
@guymcproblems7972 16 днів тому
@@nikkiofthevalley I will be printing gears tomorrow to find out lol
@exotic1405 16 днів тому
Just replying to stay updated
@dantebroggi3734 16 днів тому
Interesting. Replying to stay updated, too.
@samueldeandrade8535 15 днів тому
This video is amazing, no qualifications needed.
@Codexionyx101 15 днів тому
It now makes a lot of sense why gearboxes are almost always lubricated - they need to slide past each other in order to work, even though they don't look like they're sliding!
@damiansmith5294 15 днів тому
That's also where a significant amount of driveline losses come from then! Lot'sa heat!
@electromummyfied1538 13 днів тому
This is mostly wrong.
@electromummyfied1538 13 днів тому
Gear shouldn't slide past each other. They would never last if that was the case.
@Empika 13 днів тому
@@electromummyfied1538did you watch the video lol
@cewla3348 13 днів тому
@@electromummyfied1538 mathematically wrong?
@johnchessant3012 16 днів тому
25:20 Great examples, but I kinda wish we saw them animated as actual gears too, in addition to the rolling versions
@yqisq6966 16 днів тому
Didn't expect the envelope can be solved for a closed shape. That's so cool.
@two_squared 16 днів тому
The long awaited sequel, I loved the road one.
@Rudmin 15 днів тому
I love this approach. Not a lot of new work on gear shapes in the last century, but modern 3D printing makes it easier than ever to play around with fun and nonstandard gear shapes. If you’re researching this, “conjugate action” is the technical term for gears moving at constant angular velocities. Also if anyone wants to know why involute gears are the global standard, it’s because of one more requirement which is constant pressure angle which also reduces vibrations. Also sliding action is often desirable for real world gears. The gears in your car transmission for usually kept in an oil bath and have hydrodynamic contact with each other so that the gear teeth never actually touch, they slide on a microscopic layer of oil. If you look closely, the spot on the teeth that typically sees the most wear is actually the one spot where the sliding velocity hits zero because that’s where they make metal on metal contact.
@jamesandersen3007 15 днів тому
18:50 - 25:20 Hmmmm I’m sensing a hidden connection to Fourier series and their epicycles when it comes to the construction of smooth gears. Seeing the formulas for the gears and then the algebraic construction of the gamma function parameterization with t in terms of s had had those ideas flowing through my head, Stellar work really sir.
@xenontesla122 14 днів тому
You might be onto something… Epicycloids and hypocycloids can perfectly roll inside each other.
@1471SirFrederickBanbury 13 днів тому
Cycloid gear already exist. They’re instrumental to clock making and are some of the few gears with zero sliding motion/friction. They must be spaced with extreme accuracy though, otherwise they go wonky. They most importantly can work without any lubrication, which is why watches and clocks can last so long.
@random-stuff814 13 днів тому
The two parameter locus of motion (I.e. what you see in the thumbnail) for the generating gear is a field of epitrochoids for external spur gears and a field of hypotrochoids for internal spur gears. So yes, the traced motion of each point on the generating gear is represented by the addition of two rotating vectors with some angular velocity ratio. You could call it a finite Fourier series if you wish. More details are available in my larger comment on this video (a comment + larger one broken in two as replies to myself).
@IsaacPiezac 14 днів тому
As a mechanical engineering student who has an interest in knowing how mechanics equations are derived from first principles, this is a satisfying and informative video. Very awesome.
@eliyahzayin5469 16 днів тому
Despite gears being the posterchild of mechanical engineering and one of the first machines most kids are introduced to, they are absolutely one of the worst things to actually deal with in terms of designing (at least in terms of undergrad classes) There are an insane number of parameters you have to take into account and it quickly goes into a rabbit-hole of tables and equations. (At least if you want to design a set of gears that will last)
@DigitalJedi 15 днів тому
Yeah it absolutely sucks lol. My 3lb battlebot uses 3D printed gears in the drive train and they took forever to get running right. Making them herringbone was even harder.
@dragonmasterlangeweg7625 9 днів тому
@@DigitalJediyeah, gears kinda suck to make. I tried making herringbone gears for a small kinetic sculpture with a sla 3d printer, and I tried so many times before giving up because I was unable to make the gears work and have the right spacing to fit inside the gearbox I was using. I eventually gave up, and got rid of the nonfunctional 3d printed gears and the rest of the 3d printed parts. I probably still have the motor I was trying to use somewhere, but the rest of the stuff is gone
@rodschmidt8952 7 днів тому
How have computers helped this situation?
@gcewing 12 днів тому
Sweeping out negative space is essentially the way that some types of gear cutting machines work. You have a tool which is shaped like a gear with cutting teeth, and you rotate it together with a gear blank in the same way that two meshing gears would move. All the parts of the blank that aren't part of the matching gear shape get cut away.
@davidlindstrom4383 16 днів тому
One engineering solution to maintaining the same radial speed for meshed gears is to see the gear as 3-dimensional, and change the teeth from having their peak parallel to the gear's axis to being skewed, so when the gear is meshed with a similar (actually, mirror image) gear, the point of contact slides up or down in the direction of the gears' axes, but at a constant radius for both gears.
@quinnobi42 14 днів тому
You're talking about helical gears, right? I kind of assumed that they were just normal gears twisted about the axis of rotation, and that if you untwisted them they'd work just like straight cut gears. I'm not sure if what you're saying means that assumption isn't true or not. Also, I thought the helical twist was mainly for noise and wear considerations.
@TaserFish-qn2xy 5 днів тому
Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I don't think helical gears suddenly are a whole different beast, but instead just twisted regular gears.
@richardmellish2371 2 дні тому
@@quinnobi42 While watching the video I thought of helical gears. It seems to me that those allow the point of contact to remain at the same radius from each axis.
@thenimbo2 16 днів тому
The dot/cross product "trick" is because the complex numbers are the 2D Clifford algebra.
@2fifty533 15 днів тому
a•b + a∧b is the geometric product of vectors, but complex numbers are rotors not vectors so this doesn't really explain it well
@georgechiporikov2297 14 днів тому
@@2fifty533 If you were to translate the common usage of complex numbers into geometric algebra terms, effectively what's going on is that all vectors are arbitrarily left-multiplied by e_x, which makes them into rotors. e_x * v = e_x * (v_x * e_x + v_y * e_y) = v_x + v_y * e_xy = v_x + v_y * i Complex conjugation corresponds to right-multiplication by e_x instead, v_x - v_y * i = v_x - v_y * e_xy = v_x + v_y * e_yx = (v_x * e_x + v_y * e_y) * e_x = v * e_x So his formula, z^* * w Effectively results in a geometric product, = v1 * e_x * e_x * v2 = v1 * v2 It's just that that in common usage complex numbers are used to represent both rotors and vectors, the rotors are naturally identified with complex numbers, but the representation of vectors is a little bit strange when you translate it back into geometric algebra.
@lerarosalene 16 днів тому
"Babe, wake up, new Morphocular video just dropped"
@jannegrey593 12 днів тому
Said no-one ever ;) Still I did find it very funny comment.
@MattHudsonAtx 12 днів тому
FreeSCAD library in 3...2...
@kinexkid 16 днів тому
This kind of content really scratches that curiosity based itch in my brain and I'm all for it
@razdahooman 16 днів тому
I'm so glad this video came! The variable angular velocity was something that I had noticed in the previous videos and was bothering me, so seeing more of an in-depth exploration of that and the difference between the wheel pairs and the gear pairs is very satisfying! I've loved this whole series!
@elliott614 13 днів тому
Wow. I never thought about that but in retrospect it seems so obvious bc gears are either lubricated with lubricants, or made of inherently slick material like Teflon or nylon etc. Wheels are generally maximally grippy
@zuthalsoraniz6764 14 днів тому
Another important consideration for real-world gears is mass-manufacturability and interchangeability. This is the reason that the involute gear shape is so dominant: Unlike other shapes for the gear teeth, there the precise gear shape depends only on the pressure angle (the angle that the line of contact makes with a line perpendicular to the line connecting the centers of the two gears), the number of teeth, and the pitch/module (respectively, the number of teeth per unit diameter, and the diameter divided by the number of teeth), but **not** on the details of the meshing gear (though obviously pitch/module and pressure angle have to be equal between two meshing gears). This, and the fact that almost all gears use the same pressure angle (20 degrees) and manufacturing tolerances means that only a small set of standardised gear cutters are required to cut all gears of a given module, no matter how many teeth they have or which tooth number gears they will mesh with.
@user-nv4lx7cl4p 15 днів тому
Exactly. Pressure angle is one of the two measures to know how much a gear should slip or "backlash" backwards.
@Lynx86 15 днів тому
It's a beautiful day when both Sebastian Lague and Morphocular release videos relating to Beziers ❤
@coolreader18 14 днів тому
That's what I was thinking lol - I spoiled myself by watching the font rendering video first and being reminded of beziers being a lerp'd point on a lerp'd line segment
@ciCCapROSTi 14 днів тому
Wow, such a great balance of show and science. Good graphics, just deep enough math, very good approach, humble person.
@tobiaspeelen4395 16 днів тому
Nice to see another video on the series, i loved the series and am glad to see it return
@vanouper9505 16 днів тому
I'm confused, how do you have a comment that is "2 hours ago" on this video that uploaded less than "2 hours ago?"
@tobiaspeelen4395 15 днів тому
Weird, i uploaded it 40 minutes after the video went online
@pedroalonso7606 15 днів тому
It was a doubt I had since long time ago and you solved it very nicely. Great video!
@soranuareane 13 днів тому
I saw that I wasn't subscribed, despite thoroughly enjoying your videos. I made sure to remedy that mistake as soon as I discovered it. I'm a computer scientist/software engineer. These videos are like candy to me. Thank you so much for covering these fascinating topics in an accessible manner!
@redyau_ 11 днів тому
Oh wow, thank you! I've noticed the jerky motion in the last couple videos, and wondered what it would take to deal with it. And now you made a response to exactly that question, awesome!
@kaisalmon1646 15 днів тому
I've been wishing for this video since Pt3, and never expected my wish to be granted!
@alexandredevert4935 7 днів тому
Turns out I solved the envelope problem to draw very accurate involute gears for my own need recently. Being the caveman I am, I did it much less elegantly, brute-forcing it with algebra and questionable calculus. Your approach is so much more elegant
@Chrischi3TutorialLPs 12 днів тому
Jerkiness isn't always something you want to avoid. Look at Mathesian gears, for example, they convert a constant rotational speed into individual steps. It's useful in some cases.
@bartleyhoran9833 15 днів тому
I love how you played the algorithm and annoyingly me while im studying for my topology and fluid mechanics exams this week.
@zoryion3867 16 днів тому
We've all been waiting for the next episode, very fun to learn that way :)
@terdragontra8900 15 днів тому
Envelopes are like, my favorite thing, I particularly like the envelope I discovered independently of a line segment of constant length, with the endpoints bound to the x and y axes: the astroid, with equation x^(2/3) + y^(2/3) = 1, and somehow a length of exactly 6.
@bigyeet5587 2 дні тому
I love math but something about the music in these videos and your voice is soothing and makes me so sleepy sometimes. I’ll doze off until halfway through the video and then I have to go back several chapters 😅
@tulpjeeen 15 днів тому
Thanks for making it clear that gears have to slide. Especially around cycloidal gear teeth, there is a widespread misconception that the gear teeth are rolling against each other.
@recursiveslacker7730 14 днів тому
Yeah, learning there’s not just incidental/thermodynamically demanded energy loss from friction, but that sliding is literally necessary for smooth motion was an eye-opener.
@featherofajay4667 9 днів тому
The only part of the math I understood was the comparison to the check for extrema in calculus, but it was still a nice video and I do now know what envelopes are and that complex numbers are good for calculating something with rotation. And it was very interesting to see the various partner gears that different gear shapes produced.
@varunahlawat169 10 днів тому
you've nailed teaching
@BleachWizz 15 днів тому
20:00 - after seeing triangles and hexagons I believe it's the constant rate of change of R along the edges. Since they're straight it helps; also in the limit with infinite sides it becomes a circle so more sides should make them more alike;
@whisper3856 16 днів тому
Finally, my favorite wheel math content creator uploaded!
@CircuitBoy1010 14 днів тому
I loved watching the series prior to this video. Cool to see a new vid on it!
@epremier20050 12 днів тому
27:43 Incidentally, this internally meshed gear seems to be how the Wankel rotary engine is designed with a circular triangle inside forming an epitrochoid that the inside gear not only spin around, but also run the internal combustion cycle to run the engine.
@LordFencer 15 днів тому
so brilliant!! I'm astonished!
@iveeuwu 16 днів тому
I remember suggesting the clipping thing! not sure if you came up with it on your own before me, or my email was what gave u the idea, but either way im happy to see it
@serkanmuhcu1270 15 днів тому
26:17 this reminded me of the mathologer video about modulo times tables. I bet that a gear that is just a line would pair with a cardioid gear.
@varunahlawat169 10 днів тому
Do you know what's most impressive to me? When someone shows me how to use basic tools and put them to real life use, in a very out of the box. I try to do this often, but it's very hard to come accross things like these!! How do you come across such things, and then also put it so beautifully in a video??
@englishchannel7 16 днів тому
Great video! I think it would be cool to see the last animations with both gears at fixed points to see what they would look like in real life.
@penguincute3564 15 днів тому
The well anticipated sequel finally comes.
@LuizPoublan 16 днів тому
Brilliant as usual
@naturecomics 11 днів тому
I was able to get Desmos's graphing calculator to make the envelopes and I think your analysis of what goes wrong with the ellipse is correct. As the distance between the axles decreases eventually the inner envelope starts to self intersect, which in this case indicates that there are moments where the source gear is no longer in contact with the partner gear assuming you shave off the areas created by the self-intersection. Interestingly, as you continue decreasing the distance the inner and outer envelopes meet and then each become discontinuous, forming two new curves - I think this is when the output is an error for you. I plan on doing the same for a rack and pinion using a given pinion (and maybe vice versa, though that might be harder).
@rodschmidt8952 7 днів тому
In an advanced calculus book, I saw a derivation of an integral equation which will give you the curve for the tooth of a partner gear, given any (reasonable) curve for the tooth of the first gear, under the explicit assumption that they roll on each other with no slipping
@heisenberg_fisher2890 11 днів тому
Excellent video. Thank you very much.
@1471SirFrederickBanbury 13 днів тому
The one issue is that there are a whole category of gears with minimal to 0 sliding motion that do exist all around us. Cycloid all gears have for a long time been part of clock and watchmaking. Their contact allows them to have zero sliding friction as the gears themselves must have minimal friction and be never lubricated in order to prevent dirt build up. Other forms of cycloidal gears can be found in roots blowers and such. Having played which watch parts as a child and assembling a couple watches from parts, almost any sliding friction in watch wheels (gears) causes the rapid wearing out of gears that should never wear. This causes friction to increase rather exponentially until the watch spring can’t power the watch anymore, and in that case, every gear would need to be recut and at best, the plate that holds the jewel bearings be drilled again or tossed out.
@queueeeee9000 13 днів тому
But I believe those gears don't maintain a constant angular velocity.
@NickAndriadze 7 днів тому
I really enjoyed this very mathematical take on the concept of gear engineering, very interesting, informative and fun. Also damn, that offset axle oval gear looks so interesting! I wonder if making it that much larger would produce more of the indents that it produced on a smaller scale, as currently it only has two.
@julia_qwerty 15 днів тому
YEEES A NEW EPISODE OF WEIRD WHEELS SERIES
@Tomasu321 5 днів тому
Submit this to Summer of Math Exposition! Fantastic video
@JTCF 13 днів тому
Thanks, you gave me an idea of a breakthrough in one of my math-heavy projects, I will spend countless hours researching and it will all be your fault. Sincere thanks.
@thisisrylieproductions6974 16 днів тому
Yessssssss Finally a new morphocular vid
@KhalilEstell 13 днів тому
I saw the painted gear part and had to thumbs up and give a comment. That is so cool!
@studyandburn 12 днів тому
I am yet to be a mechanical engineer, and ai find this very cool, I think this can be used in improving rotary engine design if they didn't already use such a technique for doing so.
@abhimanyukar 11 хвилин тому
As we are taught in undergrad mechanical engineering: theoretically, most gears have involute profile which perfectly roll over each other. But the speed ratio varies since the point of contact moves radially. I don't know why you did not mention this basic stuff. Clocks use cycloidal gears which often have constant speed ratios but have sliding and more strength which make more sound due to sliding.
@phibik 15 днів тому
Best animations I've seen, if some4 will come out, you can easily win
@woodenpotato7550 16 днів тому
i'll admit it, i wasn't expecting the parametric equations, the partial derivatives and specially the complex numbers
@piratepartyftw 16 днів тому
If this isn't already known in the literature, I feel like this might be publishable. Some engineers would find this useful. You might consider emailing some engineering professor who would know and offering to coauthor the paper with them.
@ZeroPlayerGame 10 днів тому
Interesting domain for that solution! In the parens we have dot(normalized tangent, radius vector), so all in all this means "gear radius projected on tangent to contact point is no greater part of R than w'/(w+w')". It's sort of a lever rule, but for angular speeds, and reflects the common design that the gears' average radii are in ratio with their number of teeth (in that case you can make all the teeth the same).
@appa609 12 днів тому
This is amazing.
@JaredBrewerAerospace 8 днів тому
@24:00 I'm astonished that the solution stays closed form when I imagine all of the different types of gears in my head in particular, square and triangular teeth. To no surprise, as you developed your solution your mathematics are starting to look more like the equations used for cams and lobes. At the end of the day, all mechanisms are going to be an inclined plane, lever arm, wedge, pulley or some combination.
@DylanPiep 10 днів тому
This incredible! I'm curious if there's a way to solve for f(s) such that, we could find a function whose gear partner envelope is the original function, probably with some angular offset. I know a circle is a trivial solution to this, but, I wonder if there's a whole family of functions.
@joaopetersonscheffer 11 днів тому
i didn't quite get it why this solves the switch problem, you are using another type of switch? also kudos for the project, nicely done!
@alienbroccoli8296 15 днів тому
Hey morpho! I think it would be easier to say that, if velocity vectors of changing s and t are parallel [17:11], then del gamma/del s = (lambda) * del gamma/del t I solved the example envelopes as well as the general equation using the lambda parameter and it doesn’t involve the “unusual” albeit beautiful step of pulling out f’(s) from the Re{.} part (which you did in the complete derivation). Both the conditions are essentially the same but i thought i would share this. Great video btw!
@mechadense 11 днів тому
Awesome ⚙️s video. Thanks. Advertized it on X-platform.
@Vexcenot 13 днів тому
watching this while playing Epidemic Playstation (1995) BGM in another tab was the best thing ever
@asdfghyter 2 дні тому
23:39 i think some of the expressions might become simpler or at least more intuitive if you go back to vector representation somewhere here. in particular, Re[f’(s)/|f’(s)|*f(s)] is just the projection of f(s) onto f’(s). -in other words, it’s the radial component of the derivative- you might also be able to eliminate the cos-1, since we immediately take the cosine of it afterwards, but maybe not, since we’re multiplying it with things in the meantime
@ABaumstumpf 14 днів тому
The interlocking wheel are gears - a gear is a spinning device using mechanical interlocks to transmit power. There is no requirement on slipping or continuity and there are gears that are specifically designed to give non-uniform rotation even to the point of not rotating at all for large parts (geneva drive).
@kyleblake7522 12 днів тому
With the internally meshing gears, is it possible to stack multiple gears to create a sort of rotary engine? My understanding is that you could give the shape of a single rotor and create the housing and then another internal gear inside the rotor for the crankshaft. Rotary engines commonly use a gear ratio of 2:3 between the spinning rotor and the crankshaft, but i wonder if there are any other ratios that would work
@johnchessant3012 16 днів тому
15:44 This part is really clever!
@bytesandbikes 15 днів тому
I think allowing the axle away from the centre of the gear allows non sliding gears -- such as in an external cycloidal gear set. This means at least one of the gears must be on a crank.
@doctorkiwano 12 днів тому
I'm imagining an iterative process where we start with a gear and assign it a number of "teeth", select some other number of teeth to construct the partner gear with an appropriate ratio of angular velocities (there seems to be some flexibility in selecting R, which might yield an interesting constraint to explore), construct the partner gear, and then repeat with another number of teeth (again there's flexibility here, making for another interesting tweakable attribute on the iterative process), etc. It seems obvious that for suitably chosen R, the collection of circles would make something of a fixed point for a dynamical system constructed around such an iterative process; is it attractive? What's its basin of attraction? Are there other attractive fixed points? Do any of them closely resemble gear profiles currently in widespread use? What about repulsive fixed points?
@corsaro0071 14 днів тому
Great work and great content
@morphocular 14 днів тому
Thank you!
@oafkad 12 днів тому
I was thinking of a weird way to do this. Create a line, where the height of any point on the line matches the length of a line from the center of the gear to the edge of the gear, rotate until you return to the starting position. Once you do this you have a line the length of the border of the original gear. Then you start a new object. Start drawing a line that is as far from the center as the height of this first line. Rotate and keep drawing at that height value. Once you return to the start you will have drawn the second gear. Just keep restarting at the beginning of your height line any time you reach the end. I wonder if i deacribed that well enough...
@oafkad 12 днів тому
Oh I guess you are doing this with smart pants math stuff.
@neopalm2050 16 днів тому
I feel so smart for catching that the condition was jacobian determinant 0 during that pause.
@chrisgriffith1573 День тому
Love that you are educational. Hate that your explanations are not conducive to dyslexic individuals. Too many definitive words (representing variables) not represented by any visuals, therefore nothing to hold onto within my mind before you prove your algorithm.
@maeysinaleko 15 днів тому
A true popularization masterclass! Thank you The serie remind me slightly of the news of a team that invented an algorithm to create a 3D shape that would follows any predetermined path (trajectoïd)! Maybe an idea for a futur video? :)
@ausaramun 16 днів тому
That "let's shift gears" joke made my day lol
@Blarrrgum 36 хвилин тому
Hum actually, your own animation of the gear show that the surface of engagement roll one on another since the point of contact move for both surface at the same time. The only sliding there is in a gear set is in practical application since you need a tiny clearance gap and bad teeth number engagment can create a jumping phenomenon.
@williambarnes5023 12 днів тому
What happens if you place a spring between the axles of the rolling wheels, so that their distance need not be constant? Then can you get non-jerky rotation without slipping?
@TheRojo387 9 днів тому
Surely a pair of gears can be designed with VERY LITTLE slide, that still work. Obviously SOME slide is necessary so they may mesh together and drive one another. But the amount of slide might be surprisingly small.
@JonathanZigler 16 днів тому
The cos could maybe be normalized to solve the greater than 1 issue. Technically one could consider it like radians where you wrap around to -1 since cos^-1 is only defined from [-1:1] which corresponds to from angle pi to 0 or 180 degrees.
@yandyyay 11 днів тому
uses an animation of involute gears ( Involute gears. At the instant where the line of contact crosses the common tangent to the pitch circle, involute gear teeth roll one over the other without sliding. ) and then says because the coontact point is not along the line joing the centres of each gear they must be sliding... RIGHT YOU DO.... also a gear that slides isnt going to last very long as sliding / rubbing sufaces will wear out very quickly.
@Schule04 14 днів тому
Thanks doc
@deathpigeon2 16 днів тому
Is there some sort of gear equivalent to an ideal road? Like, a road which maintains constant angular velocity on a gear-wheel and constant forward velocity relative to the road.
@wherestheshroomsyo 13 днів тому
Fantastic video! So, could you let f(s) be unknown, then add the condition that f(s) be the same (similar) shape as it's partner gear, Then solve that ODE for f(s) to get out the shape of a standard common gear? Or is there a family of distinct gears where the partners are similar? At the least, it would be fun to run your algorithm on the equation of a standard gear and verify that the partner is the same.
@map3935 15 днів тому
I've seen your 3D Euler's formula video too and both in that video and in this you use linear algebra and complex numbers to manipulate rotations and transformations. I thought that maybe you should consider looking into a topic called geometric algebra, I promise you wont regret it. For example when I saw the equation at 22:52 I laughed knowing how natural of an interpretation it has in geometric algebra. It generalises a lot of things. So may I urge you to maybe do your next video about lets say a rotational topic using geometric algebra perhaps?
@LinkLaine 8 днів тому
If we flatten gear shape (same way as from circular coordinate system) and calculate R-"shapefunction" will it give us flatten form of shape we need? Or there is a problems with neighboring collisions or revolutions speed??
@Donna-Mann 11 днів тому
Finding the perfect gear partner is like finding the perfect dance partner - they have to mesh well together!
@Raye938 16 днів тому
In your example with triangle wheel at the end you mentioned it would not be smooth because it's not touching, but it is -- the touching point instantaneously swaps to the tip in all points at which it is unsupported. Doesn't this provide stability since the triangle can't leave the trough it's currently in?
@tttITA10 День тому
The one thing missing from this video are animations of the weird gears turning in place.
@henrymarkson3758 16 днів тому
The quality of your content rivals that of 3b1b and there is no higher praise than that.
@BenDover-eh5zw 13 днів тому
Reminds me of the `Moving sofa problem'
@electromummyfied1538 13 днів тому
Sorry to disappoint but you CAN achieve constant speed using circle involutes WITHOUT SLIPPING. The gears shown in min 5.08 are made from circle involute which actually roll without slipping this is because the force applied is normal to the surface at every point of contact (except at the end where "clipping" may occur, that where envelopes come in handy). A quick search on using the generation principle may help clarify any doubts.
@gcewing 12 днів тому
It seems I was one of the people who was wrong on the internet about this last time! I had thought that one of the reasons for using involute-shaped gear teeth was that it led to rolling contact, but I must have just confabulated that. Apologies for spreading misinformation. Now I'm wondering what exactly are all the considerations that lead to involute teeth. One that's been mentioned is constant pressure angle. Another is that the depth of meshing is not all that critical. And because the teeth on both gears are the "same shape", for some definition of "same", you can take any two gears with the same tooth pitch and they will work together. Are there any other benefits? And are involutes the only solution to these constraints, or are there other shapes that will work?
@76Eliam 9 днів тому
Wow this so bizarre I was also working on trying to find the partner gear of gears of arbitrary shapes and you posted a video on this subject the same week. You solution using complex numbers is definitely more elegant than mine which involved using the epitrochoid curves in cartesian coordinates, but I think the results would be the same. Now the question I was trying to answer, and very similar to the one you answered for partner wheels : what is the _family_ of gears that are their own partner gears ? I'm going to try to find it myself, but I think the challenge could please you.
@zygzag 15 днів тому
may i suggest looking into geometric algebra? it gives a very clean and simple intuition for the complex conjugate formula for 2d cross and dot products around 23:02
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