Sleeping on a cliff is fun. Until....you experience a rodeo ;)

Good idea. We include quite a few in the rappelling episode coming in a few weeks.

They miss the best part, chilling on the portaledge

Iv always done it where the person giving holds onto the item and never let's go, the person taking it has to pull it out of the others hand. So no one ever let's go of anything. But I'm on ladders, not on big walls, so I'd probably want to throw in a verbal system on top of that if I could be completely fucked if I dropped something.

Some notes as watching. You guys say "Take" We've always said "Got" and literally make the other person pull things out of our hands. Not a crazy strong grip on what we're holding on to... but. Just enough that they have to slightly wrench it away.

Sounds more like a rule of wrist! nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk.

That was just filler for the bag. You take a hammock on a wall if you want to learn how bad ass the climbers in the 70s were but otherwise you just take a ledge.

would a small 1/4" hole at the connection compromise it? It seems like that is how everything is attached. The bar reinforces it right at the weakest point anyways. That could be a hard test to determine something conclusive.

@@HowNOT2 I agree, that would be hard to test, however I have an idea. Now, let me verbosely explain my point. So you are right, the bar will reduce bending stress in the strut. However, there is no 'hard' connection between them, as can be seen in the setup video you included, there the whole ledge twists around itself. So imagine two people are sitting (or god forbind jumping) on opposite corners of the ledge. This would try to turn one of the long bars one way and the other one against it. The 1/4" bolt would try to prevent that and therefore create stress within the wall of the strut, with quite a lot of leverage. Despite the bar taking stress off, the middle of the strut is still one of the places that sees the most stress. Now combined with the stress in the wall, that could well have unforseen consequences, since the part wasn't designed with that in mind and probably not tested for it. Also, the way a hollow pipe fails is not by bending or breaking but rather by folding in on itself, which instantly leads to a massive loss of strength of the cross-section. So it is - kind of - comparable to breaking like glass. When you cut glass and bend it, it's gonna break exactly at the place of the cut. Much in the same way, the pipe will most likely collapse at the point where he hole is. Although the latter part is a bit conjectural. Now you said, that's how everything is attached, but the ends of the strut don't see much bending stress and even if one of those bolts were to damage the whole it's in, it wouldn't do much to the stability of the ledge in general. So in conclusion, if you bolt in the bar, stress on opposite corners should be the worst case scenario. And that may be a place to start in a possible test.

just say you're boring

I guess they funnel it with the bag?

@@bryana7163 that can't be it. There's no way You're mashing your shit into a 1inch opening 2litree at 1k feet up. They gotta be cutting open that bottle or using a different one and the was a joke.

Personally I'd need a nice nalgine size opening or shit in a bag and store on a nalgine destination for poo only. Please feel free to add solutions. This is a big deal for me on the wall now that I'm going for bigger climbs

​@@alexthomas2953 yea, I don't know,. I've done hiking and indoor rock climbing, and mountain biking that's it. I was just curious on how people set that stuff up while hanging on a rope, its quite the challenge.

To clarify: You go to the bathroom in the wag bag and then you cut the 2 liter water bottle open like a pac man and put the wag bag inside it that way. Then tape it shut. You can usually fit a couple used bag in said bottle.

Some really difficult big wall climbs reasonably take (a lot) more than a week to climb.

Pee first separate probably

My friends have :)

@@HowNOT2 ahahaha!

@@HowNOT2 haha, hopefully it was in the first night on the wall cause I bet that would get kinda gross lol

I like "the nuclear football".