How To Tie Your Hockey Skates for performance and feel

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How do you tie your hockey skates for performance and feel? This video with DuPraw Powerskting. Coach Ryan explains the difference between tying your skates for feel vs. performance.
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@DuPrawPowerskating 2 роки тому

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@sokpapajr3461 Рік тому

Tie my skates exactly like you! Most comfortable for me💪 Solid Vid! 👊

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

@@sokpapajr3461 so we aren't alone! 😀Thanks for watching! Coach Ryan

@lightbulb002 2 роки тому

Best how to hockey video on the internet! This will save so many people countless hours of trial and error to get their skates to fit right.

@DuPrawPowerskating 2 роки тому

Very appreciated...glad it helped and thanks for watching 👀...Coach Ryan

@plumpy53 4 місяці тому

Good vid. I've been playing hockey for almost 50 years. Stopped here and there when the kids were young or starting a career. Technology has changed. I had those plastic Micron skates when I was around 10 or 12. Those were hard to tie effectively! Zero flex. I tie my skates similar to what you showed. I use wax laces and find the bottom few holes don't move much and if they are too tight, my toes go numb. I have 10 holes in my skates. I barely touch the bottom 3. Then I tighten the next 3 a bit, leaving some flex. Then the next 2 get a bit of a snug so they aren't loose but I can move them, just like you showed. I concentrate on the top two holes. I always always always do a double under to keep them from slipping! I keep the top two snug but not too tight. After all the years of pucks off the ankle and shin, too many bruises to aggravate and I don't want lace bite (had that too many times). I also use gel pads on the inside of my ankles. I use very short, thin socks, keeping any seams away from my ankles to avoid irritation. I also find a sock seam by my toes will cause them to go numb or hurt! I usually find after about 30 - 40 minutes of beer league or drop-in hockey, I retie the top two or three holes, just a bit to keep my ankles supported. I'm going to experiment with the lace from the outside rather than the inside. Good tip!

@djkenfyre8223 Рік тому

Definitely earned my sub, thank you. Everything was awesome. Then you mentioned old school methods of lacing, and right there you had me. I’m pushing 40 trying to still play. Both knees looking at being replaced, right ankle broken three times, last one never set right. Got back to playing roller and ice since stopping after college puck and midnight. I came back and the equipment is all different, I still play with my old Cooper shoulder pads. Thanks for vid, it helped me realize how much it hasn’t changed, just my fear of snapping an other ankle this late in the game. I won’t change the way I play but my hat is off too those who move it forward.

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

Here here to that! I know the over 40 crew myself and the pain never goes away, you just push through it. Appreciate the comments and appreciate that you are still playing the great game! Keep it going!!!

@sleepingbob7110 2 роки тому

Wow great video, thank you very much for this one. I will definitely try this out the next time i go on the ice.

@DuPrawPowerskating 2 роки тому

Glad you dig it and hope it helps!!! **

@Omelettedufromage4513 5 місяців тому

I have been looking for the answer for my foot numbness/cramping all over the internet and found this. Thank you for helping me solve a huge problem. Can't wait to skate this weekend!

@DuPrawPowerskating 5 місяців тому

My pleasure! Have a great skate this weekend!

@mhicaoidh1 8 місяців тому

Great video! I tie my skates the same way with a couple of small differences. I use waxes laces which I feel holds the lower laces tighter, longer. I found with regular laces, the looseness of the arch area would migrate to the lower ball area. Also, I do not lace the top eyelet. This keeps the ankle more mobile, and cuts down on lace bite on the front tendon. My feet are weird though. I tried the size down method, and actually ended up (after years of pain and experimentation) a half size larger (11) than my shoe size (10.5).

@shogekimura Рік тому

im happy and relieved to see a pro tie their laces exactly like mine. tight-loose-medium. i actually thought that the boot bend was not good but after hearing you say that it helps im less stressed about it

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

Not at all...it's gotta feel right for you! I totally believe if the feel ain't right you will always feel off and not connected. Thanks for watching!

@rjmedia504 2 роки тому

Thank you Coach! Very in-depth

@DuPrawPowerskating 2 роки тому

My pleasure! Thanks for watching

@Sciexful Рік тому

I just bought my first pair of ice skates and this video was very helpful. I have wide feet and high arches. The shop said I needed DD width but they did not have a pair in stock so my ice skates are D width. I found wearing my skates barefoot and lacing them up like this video was perfect as it gave me that extra bit of width I needed and room in the arch to be comfortable. Looking forward to trying my skates this weekend!

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

Sure glad it helped, and thanks for watching. I hear tons of free advice...where it's more of....this is exactly what you need....hey only you knows you. If it's a mechanics fix, okay yes sometimes things need to be a certain way, but to find your feel...that belongs to you!

@Sciexful Рік тому

@@DuPrawPowerskating Just came back from ice skating and it was awesome. I wore business socks mostly and also tried barefoot. Barefoot gave me the most control (I could feel it better) but I wore the socks most of the time to control odour and prevent blisters (I'm still breaking in my skates). With this lacing and thinner socks my feet barely cramped at all.

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

👍 Alright there ya go!!!! Happy for you!

@dude4173 2 місяці тому

@@Sciexful funny! I do the same thing… I wear business socks cause they are super thin 🤣👌

@dylanrizzardi Рік тому

I’m gonna try the tight-loose-snug next time I skate because I always find my arches cramping up during games

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

Thanks for watching Dylan..I have been there before 100%...that's exactly why I've exprimeted with this many year ago.

@dannyboy9784 11 місяців тому

Thanks, will try the tie tip tomorrow at practice....great video.

@DuPrawPowerskating 11 місяців тому

Let me know how it goes? Thanks for watching!

@eliminator87 Рік тому

Thank you this thins video was very helpful and a lot of your videos also .I got back on skates after I've had 2 hip replacements.. thanks your tips

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

Dan you got it! Very much appreciated and the videos help. I had one side cleaned out on the ball and socket, but replaced two.... man! How long were you out and how long did it take to get good movement back? Thanks for watching Dan! Coach Ryan

@eliminator87 Рік тому

@@DuPrawPowerskating well I'm 5 months of surgery right now.. that's awesome to hear someone is in the same boat I am ..

@rongreen316 4 місяці тому

Excellent video, thank you!

@DuPrawPowerskating 4 місяці тому

My pleasure and thanks for watching!

@RonVichar Рік тому

Thanks for the history lesson and tips. I am probably over tightening Coffey style on my kids' boot while lacing up, thinking tighter is better for support. I'll have to experiment now with socks on ;) so that he has the flexibility for a full stride. My kids are learning so I don't want to give them old bad habits from the paleozoic Era of time when I played hockey.

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

😆 that's the 💡 idea. Let me know how it goes and thanks for watching!

@bamboograssburned 9 місяців тому

Thanks for highlighting inside out vs outside in. Have you considered other “weird” patterns around the tongue instead of staying loose? It seems like loose will negate bottom and top tightness. Perhaps you could try to alter you pattern by doing a big X or switching from inside to outside? Would make a good video, especially from someone who understands power skating so well.

@bamboograssburned 9 місяців тому

(Sort of how Coffey had a dual tightness area allowing looseness without it spreading)

@DuPrawPowerskating 9 місяців тому

Good points I will definitely keep that in mind. My lose is still pretty snug it's just loser than the other two areas. It holds just how I like it👍

@brookeelayna7217 Рік тому

I'm the 35 year old chick skating around in Bauers and a hockey jersey (and hockey helmet) at learn to skate class while all the other students are in figure skates. So I get the over 30 club refrences lol. I had to pull out last week and got almost no practice in because the skates were literally hurting my feet, to the point I was going numd. I tried this method, barefoot and looser in the mid foot, and it feels so much nicer but still secure! I can't wait until this week's lesson to try it out for real on the ice, thank you so much!

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

Oustanding! Yes! Join the club just spray those bad boys and air them out! Keep with out there! Very cool! _Coach Ryan_😀

@brookeelayna7217 Рік тому

@@DuPrawPowerskating I'm subbed to you now so hopefully I can be a slightly less mediocre, old fart, beer leaguer! 😂

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

@@brookeelayna7217 Thanks so much... I look at it like at least you are out there, where some are not... take a bow! Best wishes on the ice!

@josephl2027 2 роки тому

I also am tight in the toes, very loose in middle. Very tight on the eyehole right at the ankle hinge point, skip the hole above that (usually third) then medium tight above that. Skip the top hole.

@edwardsfamilyworkshop 7 місяців тому

Great freaking video!! You've blown my mind with these details and my whole family is going to benefit from what I just learned. Thanks so much

@DuPrawPowerskating 7 місяців тому

My pleasure 🙏 and thanks for watching 👀

@troybarney4636 11 місяців тому

Great it took me two times on the ice with my feet going numb that I do your way so my feet don't go numb. Thanks.

@DuPrawPowerskating 11 місяців тому

Great to hear it Troy! Don't want your feet going numb out there playing man! Keep it up! Coach Ryan

@frankgrimes2991 11 місяців тому

Don't the laces at the toe loosen up during a game because of all the movement and flexing of the skates? Especially since the mid-area laces are so loose?

@Alex-br3ll 4 місяці тому

Nice vid 👍🔥 +1 sub

@thedino328 10 місяців тому

my skates were so loose i could only rest on my inside edge, after a coach helped me it felt amazing! thank you for showing us. what do you recommend beginners have for their laces? tight or loose? i am trying to get on my edges and stride. also hockey stop.

@DuPrawPowerskating 10 місяців тому

There are variables at play but I would day tighter on the ankle as a beginner until you develop more control....and a tad dull blades help you learn how to keep your blade neutral and slide into your stops first. Think slide and not immediate stopping.

@thedino328 10 місяців тому

@@DuPrawPowerskating okay! thanks!! and then as i get into more control i can loosen! this makes so much more sense! thank you!

@DuPrawPowerskating 10 місяців тому

@thedino328 thanks for watching!

@francislogreco9141 Місяць тому

Great video but i have a question. When you tie your skates like that, do you feel maximum control on the ice the same you would if you were to tie your skates tight all the way to the top?

@DuPrawPowerskating Місяць тому

I absolutely do, I know pros that are so tight their feet are purplish red after games and other pros that I have no idea how their edge work is so good when they are so loose. I can't state this enough....the only thing cookie cutter advice is for making cookies. The only time I tell a player about their stick flex, lie, kick weight, or skate fit to shin guards over or under the lounge is if it affects performance. Otherwise it's up to the individual. Sit and listen sometime to all the free advice out there. There's a ton, you have to find what works best for you or have a professional watch your mechanics and sort through it.

@steezo3720 9 місяців тому

playing barefoot is crazy in my opinion 😮

@alpha1teamleader26 2 місяці тому

There was a Russian team were there coach made the players skate with no laces

@HH-gn9qt 9 місяців тому

Wouldn’t the tension between the various areas just even out as one skated? Are you using waxed laces if they still make such a thing?

@DuPrawPowerskating 9 місяців тому

They adjust a bit, but the snug loser tight seems to hold for me. They do still make waxed laces, but I don't use them.

@pj6973 2 роки тому

Very interesting actually. The thing I don’t understand is if you tighten the bottom part of the skates and then leave the middle loose, unless you tie your skates like Paul Coffee with two different sets of laces, wouldn’t the bottom become looser as the game goes on? And how do you decide how many eyelets to come down from the top if you’re a shorter guy. It doesn’t seem logical for a shorter guy to tie skates all the way to the top. It would seem you would lose a lot of flexibility.

@DuPrawPowerskating 2 роки тому

It's all about personal feel. This is what works for me or I get the middle of foot and arch cramps. The way I tie at the top they don't get looser and if they do. Just re- adjust in between periods. Skates are still made to perform a certain way. I wouldn't take away eyelets unless you have unbelievable ankle strength and control. I'm a short guy and I go all the way to the top. That's just how they are engineered these days, but way stiffer than 20 years ago. But at the end of the day.... remember that's why I said in the video.... everyone has a different feel. Ultimately you have to find the balance between what is engineered for performance and feel. The manufacturer would tell you logically they are built lace all the way to the top. But that doesn't mean it will 100% work for you. Thanks for your comment.

@pj6973 2 роки тому

@@DuPrawPowerskating Thanks for your reply. Sticks and skates have such a personal touch to them. Like you said, it works for you. What you DID do was make me think about trying a couple different ways of tying my skates and see what the benefits are. Also, I have tried a few different profiles and it seems well worth trying a couple different radius' to find what works best for your height and skating style. Thank you.

@darkthunder312 Рік тому

I played hockey for 6 years and ski raced for 10 years, where the flex at the top of the boot is where you gained the most power, and skiing and ice skating are very similar physics wise. But on my skates I feel like the lip of the tongue is so soft. I wrap my laces once around the back at the top to give myself more flex resistance but it doesn’t seem to help enough. Is there anything else I can do with my laces to increase the resistance above my ankles?

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

I know this is old school and some people don't like the looks but if you are a former ski racer you have been used to even more resistance and rigidity.....might think about taping with cloth or clear hockey tape at the last eyelet around mid to tounge and tendon guard...what kind of skates do you wear? Coach Ryan

@timmbitz Рік тому

I'm 31, and can skate pretty well from when I was a teenager. Trying to get back into hockey again and I just bought a pair of boots today. I got them the same size as the shoe size that I wear. Seemed most comfortable, as when I tried a smaller pair it felt that the sides of my feet were going to cramp up. Is this going to be a problem with the larger skate? I can maybe move my foot 1/4 to 1/2 of an inch forward/backward when the tongue of the boot is completely loose. Feels good on the sides, too, and I like to do my laces very tight.

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

I would never tell someone there is an absolute 💯 percent right way because you like what you like and everyone has a different feel. I might encourage you to go with a fit for a wider foot like a Bauer Fit 3 instead of going with a bigger size to get the width. Hope this helps

@cleanasdirt6832 8 місяців тому

I wear a size 9.5 extra wide running shoe. My previous skates were CCM tacks size 9. I never felt as one with them. Today I just purchased a pair of Bauer supreme M4, in a size 8.5 fit 2. What a superior fit compared to my tacks. My league starts in 3 weeks, excited to see how they perform. I’m in my 50’s, I don’t expect speed will increase. 🇨🇦

@gmclll5371 Місяць тому

I love the idea of tight, looser, tight but I feel like after skating for a few minutes, It would balance out and be mostly too loose?

@joelonsdale Рік тому

What is the rude version of winch? Enjoyed the video but couldn't figure out the joke!

@neivemckelvie207 6 місяців тому

I think it’s a wench which is what people would call women servers a long time ago

@DanielSon69 5 місяців тому

Pretty sure it’s wench?

@koenofzo7746 2 місяці тому

Do you need waxed laces for the front to be thight and the middle to be lose?

@DuPrawPowerskating Місяць тому

No just use regular laces....but this is a technique I developed for myself over 35 years...takes time to find your way.

@daddydubz88 2 роки тому

How are you liking your Bauer Vapor X3.7's?

@DuPrawPowerskating 2 роки тому

Hey Jeremy, I'd say I'm really happy with them, nice bled of comfort and performance. Thanks for watching! Coach Ryan

@guarf Місяць тому

I tighten my laces medium/tight/loose :O

@colin8980 2 роки тому

Hi would baking my skates make it easier to tie it tight

@DuPrawPowerskating 2 роки тому

Hey thanks for watching! It will definitely make them more flexible and contoured around the foot making it a tighter fit , Yes.

@jacksonwilhelm2420 2 роки тому

I have these same skates, but I find that after 10 minutes of skating I get really bad pain on the back outside of both of my feet…is that because my skates are too narrow, I’m tying it too lose/tight, or I just need to break them in. (I bought them a week ago and have skated 3 times)

@DuPrawPowerskating 2 роки тому

Hey Jackson lot's to look at here. Have you baked them? How long have you skated in them? Been in Vapors before? Lots to look at to figure out what the underlying problem is.

@jacksonwilhelm2420 2 роки тому

@@DuPrawPowerskating hello! yes i had them baked at the shop. ive had them for a week now, usually skating from 2-3 hours. i have not been in vapors before, this is my first pair of skates...started skating this winter. i went to open skate today and it felt a little better, i feel like a lot of the pain comes because when i turn i put a lot of pressure on my feet because i am not good at crossocers, and i also tense them pretty hard when i turn.

@jacksonwilhelm2420 2 роки тому

once i started practicing crossovers the pain did get a little less, could that be why?

@TrappedInANap 2 роки тому

Great tips! Audio is kinda off though.

@DuPrawPowerskating 2 роки тому

Thanks for watching Adrian... will work on audio!

@larrystevens8913 2 роки тому

I am not only a barefoot skater like you, I tie my Bauer supremes the same way , tight on the toe box a bit loose in the middle over the arch then tight the rest of the way up, I am 73 by the way.

@DuPrawPowerskating 2 роки тому

That's awesome Larry! You are my hero... my goal is to keep going as long as I can. My buddy's grandpa up in Ontario is was still at it until 85!

@larrystevens8913 2 роки тому

@@DuPrawPowerskating I am an American but my parents are from Windsor Ontario,I have uncles and aunts in Hamilton and Halifax, and collingwood ontario all Toronto maple fans 😟. Myself go Habs

@DuPrawPowerskating 2 роки тому

@@larrystevens8913 that is awesome... I'm from over the river my self a Great Lakes Mitten kid. Got all my gear ever summer in Hamilton and when we were in Windsor a ton playing hockey too! Small hockey world!

@larrystevens8913 2 роки тому

@@DuPrawPowerskating nice, my grandfather lived in Windsor and use to take me downtown Windsor to the old barn to watch the spitfires play I was just a young kid then fond memories of Windsor

@dannyboy9784 11 місяців тому

@@larrystevens8913 Also a HABS fan here Larry, so you are not alone my friend.....LOL............GO_HABS_GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@thiasauchenberg Рік тому

I’m just wondering why do you use a low tier skate if you are a power skating coach?

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

I have many skates Thias....these are a pair I where on synthetic, but currently in Machs...thanks for your question.

@thiasauchenberg Рік тому

@@DuPrawPowerskating ohhh I see great video!!

@LM-sy3jc Рік тому

I always struggled with my skates. Sometimes too stiff sometimes too loose. I'll sure give your method a try.

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

Definitely! I will re-tie mine after warm-ups some days to get the feel just right.

@jonbraid2520 Рік тому

How did you get on?

@LM-sy3jc Рік тому

I tried two times a week...inline and ice hockey skates. This method definitely suites for me. 🤜🤛

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

@@LM-sy3jc awesome...glad it worked and Happy New Year- Coach Ryan

@alexoborne5419 Рік тому

So which eyelits need tight and which need loose

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

It's all about your feel. I can tell what I like, but that works for me. Tight on the toes, loose in the mid and tight on the top is my feel.

@josephl2027 2 роки тому

I probably should have watched the whole thing first lol My skates were always one size too small and stretched and punched to a perfect fit. I now have true customs but same idea, anything too big and I feel like I cant feel my edges.

@DuPrawPowerskating 2 роки тому

That is exactly how I feel Joseph. I'm all about the feel. Still get shocked looks from parents saying ! "You aren't going to put socks on Coach!?"

@BlueBusssss Рік тому

Those skates look a lot nicer than my $40 pair from play it again sports. How much do those run and how important is a good skate vs a cheap skate?

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

😅 Great question! But I'm in the businesses so 500 to 800 is worth it to me. My golf buddy was like Ryan you aren't ready for 1500 clubs yet because you are still working on your mechanics. However to a point, yes a nicer pair of Bauer or CCMs in the 200 to 300 range would help a ton. Look for older years and models, but new and it will help!

@billmontgomery3965 2 місяці тому

Good tips. The music in the background makes it harder to hear your message though.

@farmerbill4052 3 місяці тому

The loose part doesn't make sense to me. I feel confident that it'll just creep the looseness into the other parts of the laces that you have right

@swizlestick 5 місяців тому

If you have wide feet and like Bauer...buy the Supreme M5s

@joeryan3390 5 місяців тому

Tried everything. Cheap skates, middle skates and expensive skates. All tie methods, heated up skates for molding. All brands. Proper measured for correct fitting. Nothing ever worked. Been like that my whole life. I just have to skate until the feet go numb then I can go with frequent bench trips. Haven’t tried the $800+ skates so maybe that is next step.

@DuPrawPowerskating 4 місяці тому

Thanks for sharing! That sounds frustrating!

@francislogreco9141 4 місяці тому

Same here buddy. I have had pain my whole life with skates. Tried everything and I always had to go to the bench to retie. Foot would always go numb.

@buzzbuzzard3809 4 місяці тому

Have u tried those gel soles that fit to your foot shape? Maybe you have a high arch or something that doesn’t agree with the skates.

@DuPrawPowerskating 4 місяці тому

@buzzbuzzard3809 I have not but I use heat molded Bauer speed plates in mine and love them.

@maf420 4 місяці тому

Hey dude, just got a new pair of Bauer skates this season and was experiencing the same problem as you. I bought "Superfeet insoles" and within 4 hours of playing, all pain went away. It's been a game changer honestly. I'd recommend looking into them!

@stevel7596 Рік тому

Maybe “sleeping Bob” got that way from waiting for you to actually tie a skate ? PS - thx for the lesson.

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

😅

@josephl2027 2 роки тому

Im barefoot also! I just hate the feeling of socks in my skates, Ive even tried the thinnies type socks, just cant do it! With socks, its like I'm disconnected from the ice.

@DuPrawPowerskating 2 роки тому

Same here brother! And I like your first name so much it's my middle name!

@stevewitzel8284 Рік тому

Do u mind my asking what type sock u wear? Do some skate without socks?

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

😃Steve thanks for watching... zip..none.. one of the last of the Barefoot breed! I tried to go thin and I'm just one of the weird ones that feels their edges and power better with nothing. Swim with caution though because at a Hurricanes Adult Hockey Camp teaching quickstarts ...I was going extra quick and knicked the inside of my ankle and opened me up....good thing one of the coaches was medic!

@stevewitzel8284 Рік тому

I’m glad u are okay but that sounds nasty. I seen u put on the skates so just asking. I felt dum asking but just curious.

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

@@stevewitzel8284 know there is a dying breed of barefooters still out !

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

@@stevewitzel8284 Steve ask away man! Paul Coffey had me beat... I didn't start going barefoot till Bantams then it just stuck...like I said it's all about the feel.... wish I never tried it but then got hooked on it 😀😀

@SeedyNotions Рік тому

It's called a cinch action. Winch would need a fulcrum or pulley.

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

Thanks!

@valencehockey1668 Рік тому

0.25 in the very beginning sounds scary

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

😆 thanks for watching!

@Acekorv Рік тому

No socks? That’s a new for me 😅

@DuPrawPowerskating Рік тому

😄

@farmerbill4052 3 місяці тому

Wish I could hear anything BUT the music

@harlzberg6068 3 місяці тому

never tape your ankle's, your knees will hurt years later and you end up pulling your groin more

@allspeed1234 4 місяці тому

Music is too loud.

@perrysmiles60 4 місяці тому

Constructive comment here bud: Your back-ground music is way too loud and competing with your voice. It's you we want hear, not music. Thanks for the video.