How Were Germans Treated In British POW Camps?
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3 роки томуOne of the most infamous and horrific legacies of World War 2 has to be the way in which certain countries treated prisoners. We are all familiar with how concentration camps were used by Nazi Germany and also how the Japanese treated POW's also. The treatment received by the prisoners in these camps was barbaric as was life inside Soviet camps.
Today we look at POW/Prisoner Of War Camps at specifically what life was like for German POW's when they were transported to Britain for detainment. Inside Soviet the death rate for any German POW who entered a camp was around 33% which was ridiculously high, due to the ill-treatment and suffering inside there. However in British camps, the death rate for German POWs was a mere 0.03%. In this video we look at conditions inside POW camps that were established in Britain, explore what life was like for German and Italian prisoners who were held there and also see what the aim was for these soldiers. It's clear that the British offered the Germans a more comfortable stay than other nations, but focussed mostly on re-educating them against the evils of Adolf Hitler and Nazism. But also this doesn't mean however that the British were not strict.
So join us today as we look at, 'How were Germans Treated in British POW camp?' Also we show you around Eden Camp which is today a military museum, but once was a Prisoner of War camp set up for Italian and German soldiers.
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@benp4736 3 роки тому
0.03% fatality rate. Ive seen more people die at school
@rebelwalzt 3 роки тому
I've seen more people die in the same apartment building!
@Peruvianbean 3 роки тому
I've seen more people die!
@nathantorresstanevil6958 3 роки тому
In USA at least lmao
@gsungud 3 роки тому
PUSB
@fletchrr8429 3 роки тому
PUSB
@markpetersen1738 3 роки тому
This sounds like a better place to me than some of the schools i've attended
@happyheavy3685 3 роки тому
sound about right
@markpetersen1738 3 роки тому
@Starseedspirit i wish i was
@jonathanwalker8730 3 роки тому
It sounds better than my flat.
@VonApennn 3 роки тому
@Dawud why didn’t they go home, were they ashamed, is there nothing for them at home or something sinister on the allies part?
@Robsham1 3 роки тому
@Dawud Just looked that book up and the front cover says "An Investigation into the Mass Deaths of German Prisoners at the Hands of the French and Americans after World War II" - what does that have to do with British PoW camps during the war?
@Conn30Mtenor 3 роки тому
Quite a few German pow's at Bowmanville in Ontario, Canada returned as immigrants to Canada. That is how well they were treated.
@QuantumRift 3 роки тому
Yep.
@ImCarolB 3 роки тому
My father-in-law told how the German pows were allowed to go to Sunday dinner with German-speaking families in the area. In that area, it was Pennsylvania Dutch-speaking Mennonites in southern Ontario. His family frequently had young men to the house. That was a wise idea, as it showed the prisoners the life of Canadian families. I can imagine many of them would have wanted to stay.
@LordOceanus 3 роки тому
quite a few that were imprisoned in the USA did the same
@dionlindsay2 3 роки тому
AND how little was left to them in Germany when the war was over.
@theburningtankman9411 3 роки тому
I currently live in Wainwright Alberta which the camp Denwood was the largest camp of German and Italian POWs the guard towers and a few building still survive being repurposed. the chapel on base used to be a barracks for the Italian mountain troops and if you go in the back room on the walls are Italian sayings and I've found a badge in a little bit of a cubby cut into the wall (it was the badge of the 2nd Alpini Regiment)
@orsonkaart1853 3 роки тому
My uncle was a German P.OW. He never went back to East Germany until mid 60s to see family. He didn't want to go back to a Russian occupation after the war. I dont blame him!
@MauriatOttolink 3 роки тому
Orson Kaart. Sehr Klug!
@bombadscenes3673 3 роки тому
Well he’s lucky mines was captured by Russians and was a P.O.W and worked in Russia till the 1962 and still was killed
@TheMijman 3 роки тому
A POW where?
@johnnls94 3 роки тому
Maybe he should Of fought harder
@Loup-mx7yt 3 роки тому
Bombad Scenes bullshit, literally, the last German prisoner of the USSR was released in 1955
@izumiculture4030 3 роки тому
British deciding where POW go Britain "What's your favourite drink?" POW "Coffee" Britain "Send him to America" Britain "What's your favourite drink?" POW "Tea" Britain "You're in" And that's how all the Coffee drinkers ended up in America.
@impostors6905 3 роки тому
Britain "What's your favorite drink ?" POW "Vodka" Britain "Send him to Gulag"
@someonecool7316 3 роки тому
Britain "What's your favourite drink" POW "Beer" Britain "Send him to Australia"
@oshb5559 3 роки тому
someone cool Nah they would just send him to a local pub lol
@brayden7574 3 роки тому
Britain "Do you want a cup o water, mate?" POW "Ja" Britain "Send him to Canada"
@winchesterchua7600 3 роки тому
Brit: Do you like Fruit Juice and smoothies mate? German: Ja. Brit: Send him to Hawaii.
@michaelegan6092 3 роки тому
I used to live in a village called Sudbury in Derbyshire where there was a POW camp.A German POW would come to my grandparents' house to help with the garden. He was allowed to leave the prison unguarded and at midday my grandfather would take him up to the pub and with other locals, would buy him beers. He would stagger back to the camp and be happy. He used to come back on holiday to be with the people he liked. How many other countries can say the same?.
@737simviator 3 роки тому
In order to impede any potential escapes, POWs were paid not in British currency but with “camp money”, paper and plastic facsimiles which they earned for undertaking camp labour. However, somewhat inevitably, a thriving alternate industry sprang up. Willi Bungart is a German POW who was captured aged 17 and spent four years in a number of British POW camps. POWs who were considered to be “benign” were given the opportunity to earn “proper” money by working outside the camps. They were paid a fair wage for this work and many took the opportunity to save for a future outside the camps. The prisoners worked alongside locals and “lumberjills” - members of the Women’s Timber Corps - bringing in the harvest and helping with the timber management: “None of us liked the sugar-beet harvest,” remembers Gloucestershire man Humphrey Phelps in his book on wartime life, “but the Italians talked and laughed as they worked and occasionally burst into song.” Even local men and women whose loved ones were away fighting in the war and who were initially mistrustful of the “enemy” in their midst often found that this antipathy wore off once they’d spent some time working alongside POWs. It wasn’t uncommon for friendships to be struck up and for POWs to be invited into civilians’ homes for Christmas lunch. In Scotland, one farmer requested that the Italian POWs working on his farm be given permission to live in one of his outbuildings rather than have to make the long trek back to camp at antisocial hours.
@lukekelly8522 3 роки тому
The Germans are definitely our twins😂 great story 👍🏻
@edwardlook970 3 роки тому
My father also speaks of a similar experience with a German POW. One night he got into a fracas with a local at the pub. The police came round and the other locals vouched that nothing had occurred, and it was made up to get him in trouble. He was much loved by the community.
@pjballs69 3 роки тому
Definitely not Germany...
@v_cpt-phasma_v689 3 роки тому
Im not too surprised, the germans and Brits are related it was a huge shame the germans were led by the nazis, they never shouldve gone to war with eachother.
@Moggster23 3 роки тому
My paternal grandfather was captured by the British in North Africa and became a prisoner of war in Britain. After the war he settled in Britain, changed his name to an English surname, met my grandmother and the rest is history.
@burtvhulberthyhbn7583 3 роки тому
Damn good story!!
@sarkybugger5009 3 роки тому
A good friend of my Nan married a german PoW who was sent to Scotland. He was a lovely guy. I don't know where he was captured, or even what service he was in. It was many years ago.
@jimmcloughlin 3 роки тому
Moggy: I am pre-WW2 and as a kid was amazed that POWs would come to our catholic church every Sunday. Other days they worked on the land.
@stevekitt52 3 роки тому
My Great Uncle served in the Kriegsmarine on a UBoat. Got captured and served out the rest of the war here. While working on a farm, he rescued a young boy who had fell in a river. Met my Great Aunt and became part of the family.
@obamatheimposter 3 роки тому
Why not...the queen is German and they changed their name during WWI....
@kencur9690 3 роки тому
British torture practice: “Would you like a nice warm cup o’ tea luv?” “Yaa!” “Make one yourself!” “Neeeeeein!”
@kencur9690 3 роки тому
Harsh, but effective.
@red6201 3 роки тому
🤣🤣
@giroromek8423 3 роки тому
Being forces exposed to British weather is a war crime
@Herzeleydt_Diesentrueb 3 роки тому
Krauts in those days had no idea about tea. They would even have burnt the water...
@TheDuked 3 роки тому
Best comment I have seen on UKposts for a long time hahaha
@petercavellini3232 3 роки тому
To be honest, I bet some were glad to be prisoners, it more or less guarantee that after the war they’d be alive.
@patrickhanratty9779 3 роки тому
Better than the Eastern front
@lewisner 3 роки тому
As long as they survived the British weather.
@wallyklw5 3 роки тому
And the British food
@brianclark7412 3 роки тому
So, so true
@davesy6969 3 роки тому
@@brianclark7412 shut up and eat your rissole!
@johannescampe9684 3 роки тому
Respect to Britain and Canada from Germany. Thanks for showing humanity in such times and treating our POWs good.
@TheDuked 3 роки тому
We are brothers, and both of our armies knew that. We have always had mutual respect!
@737simviator 3 роки тому
Thats the whole entire idea, so they dont escape. These people where captured from their homes at young ages.... In order to impede any potential escapes, POWs were paid not in British currency but with “camp money”, paper and plastic facsimiles which they earned for undertaking camp labour. However, somewhat inevitably, a thriving alternate industry sprang up. Willi Bungart is a German POW who was captured aged 17 and spent four years in a number of British POW camps. POWs who were considered to be “benign” were given the opportunity to earn “proper” money by working outside the camps. They were paid a fair wage for this work and many took the opportunity to save for a future outside the camps. The prisoners worked alongside locals and “lumberjills” - members of the Women’s Timber Corps - bringing in the harvest and helping with the timber management: “None of us liked the sugar-beet harvest,” remembers Gloucestershire man Humphrey Phelps in his book on wartime life, “but the Italians talked and laughed as they worked and occasionally burst into song.” Even local men and women whose loved ones were away fighting in the war and who were initially mistrustful of the “enemy” in their midst often found that this antipathy wore off once they’d spent some time working alongside POWs. It wasn’t uncommon for friendships to be struck up and for POWs to be invited into civilians’ homes for Christmas lunch. In Scotland, one farmer requested that the Italian POWs working on his farm be given permission to live in one of his outbuildings rather than have to make the long trek back to camp at antisocial hours.
@AxR558 3 роки тому
@@737simviator This is the exact story that occurred on my families farm in Nottinghamshire, a crashed pilot spent the war working on the farm and they converted a hay loft into a "proper" bedroom for him. He kept in touch with them for decades after the war with regular visits to come and see his friends.
@chelamcguire 3 роки тому
Your words are so tender and so kind. Clearly, you have been raised by a respectful family. Christmas wishes and blessings from Scotland.
@johannescampe9684 3 роки тому
@@chelamcguire merry Christmas my scottish friend
@Fireguy97 3 роки тому
I know that many German POW's in Canada were actually left to be on their own during the day. The went into town, some even got jobs with locals, but were required to return to camp for the night.
@rabbit251 3 роки тому
Some prisoners were sent to a military base in southern Wisconsin in the US. From there they were literally farmed out to farm to work. My mother was a child during the war, but rshe remember speaking to the prisoners who loved being there because everyone in the area spoke German (my mother's elementary school taught everything in German. She didn't learn English until she went to high school). She told me the prisoners were very happy to be out of the war. One of my Mom's cousins later married one of the POWs. I remember meeting him and that he spoke English with a thick German accent.
@cefngwyn 3 роки тому
Only one German prisoner of war ever escaped from Canada and made it back to Germany. Hauptman Franz von Werra was a Luftwaffe pilot shot down during the Battle of Britain and deported to Canada. He escaped captivity by jumping from a moving train and stowing away aboard a freighter bound for Sweden, finally reaching Germany in April 1941. He did not survive the war, however, being shot down over the English Channel off the coast of the Netherlands in October 1941. He was the subject of a book 'The One That Got Away,' by Kendall Burt and James Leasor, and was played by the actor Hardy Kruger in the film of the same name.
@lovehandr 3 роки тому
There were a lot of German POWs in this area that worked for farmers especially in the latter part of the war. They were treated well because it was important that this information got back to Germany through Swiss inspectors. This resulted in Canadian POWs being treated better than those from some other countries, notably Russia. I recently wrote a story about this . A number of families that I know had POW workers and in one case a POW disappeared. The RCMP interviewed the mother years after the war to find out if there was any contact. There hadn't been. Escapees were not a major concern. As some one else pointed out, only one had successfully returned to Germany, and that was while the USA was still neutral and before Pearl Harbor. POWs were required to return to Germany after the war but thousands would return to Canada as immigrants in the following years.
@infertilepiggy5667 3 роки тому
well yeah, where you gonna run to? the icy forest, the frozen lake or the atlantic ocean? your choice lol
@stevemartin6144 3 роки тому
@@infertilepiggy5667 you obviously have never been to Canada.
@TheScaryTruthCatalyst 3 роки тому
My grandfather used to guard German army POW's. He remembered them as polite, working class men who missed their families. They would often be excellent craftsmen and carpenters who would sometimes make wooden toys for the guards children at Christmas.
@moeshipley4170 3 роки тому
This just illustrates that the folks most affected by war are the ones who really wanted nothing to do with it in the first place.
@billolsen4360 3 роки тому
They tell me we had lots of WW2 Italian German POWs billeted in the small farming town where I grew up in northeastern Colorado & worked on the farms owned by various friends of my folks, many of whom were either Italian or German immigrants. They taught our high school students how to play soccer. Never caused any problems as far I heard, were glad to be fed and housed with real mattresses, etc.
@MauriatOttolink 3 роки тому
The Scary Truth Catalyst Not an unusual tale. I hope that you get to the end. It's worth it. There was a great story of a high ranking German Officer..p.o.w who was billeted in a private house in a village in Scotland. Much later, the by then elderly lady described their 'guest' to whom they had given hospitality. "He was an absolute gentleman. He bowed and clicked his heels whenever we encountered him leaving the house or returning home. Spoke excellent English but had to learn our scottish accents. He did ANYTHING heavy about the. house. Wouldn't let me or my ailing husband carry anything heavy. In the kitchen he was limited but did any of the mundane tasks. Eventually he saw that our garden was badly in need of attention and said that at home his love was of gardening (Gartenarbeit) and would love to to tidy it up. The lawn was restored to its former glory and in autumn before he was repatriated, he gave the lawn its last cut before winter. She was asked for permission for him to plant some bulbs in the lawn. "They will be beautiful in Spring when I am gone... Something by which I hope you will remember me." She agreed and chose and financed the purchase of a large quantity of crocuses (croci?) and he spent hours of back breaking working, carefully planting these bulbs. He eventually made his courteous farewell speech. "Vielen Dank für Ihre Freundlichkeit und Gastfreundschaft während meines Aufenthalts in Ihrem schönen Land. Wir hätten wirklich nicht im Krieg sein sollen! " "Thank you for your kindness and hospitality during my stay in your beautiful country. We really shouldn't have been at war!" When the crocuses bloomed in March, before the grass needed cutting again, they read "HEIL HITLER!" in big letters.
@chickey333 3 роки тому
@@MauriatOttolink It appears that the German Fascists' had already done a pretty good job of planting some perennial mind speak into his now brain washed thinking process.
@Alistplay 3 роки тому
@@MauriatOttolink 😂😂😂
@heronimousbrapson863 3 роки тому
Some of the German POW's sent to Canada were housed in camps near the Rocky Mountains. A few of them were so smitten with the beauty of the area, they emigrated to Canada after the war ended.
@stevemartin6144 3 роки тому
@Con Barber , yes he was a penpal of mine.
@robertwoodward3085 3 роки тому
Bert Trautmann was pow a and was employed to carry out agricultural work. He was surprised to receive regular visits from British authorities to ensure he was being fairly treated and well fed
@philipm06 3 роки тому
My step dad lived next to Bert Trautmann near Manchester. Bert was a tough ex-paratrooper and very athletic - he was goal keeper for Manchester City and played in the 1956 FA cup final with a broken neck.
@dufushead 3 роки тому
Robert is right for sure. To anybody who wants to get a real insight into all this stuff, read Bert Trautmanns autobiography. The book is ace, the man is fucking legend. I went to school with the kids of Italian ex-pow's who'd worked on the local farms, got to know the local girls, and Antonio's your uncle. My old man was on the troopships that carried them. Great vid.
@johnconran9327 3 роки тому
Yeah Bert Trautmann's story is a good one, Fallshirmjaeger throughout the war, he was captured by Americans but decided to escape from them because he thought they were going to kill him. He ran, jumped over a fence into a field to find a British soldier sitting making tea, He said "Hello Fritz, fancy a cup of Tea?" Which he did. Legend.
@Holden308 3 роки тому
One of the reasons that Trautmann and others were surprised was because they had been force fed a false diet of how badly the Allies treated POW's. I'm not saying the Allies were perfect in their treatment of POW's, far from it. But from stories I have read from German, Italian and Japanese POW's, we did tend to treat our prisoners a bit better than they treated ours.
@barrybernstein4459 3 роки тому
@@philipm06 I remember going to WHL as a kid in 1960 to see Spurs play Manchester City. It was the season of the Spurs double. Bert Trautmann played a blinder and Spurs dropped their first point after eleven consecutive wins.
@macaronisushi4512 3 роки тому
i know there were a lot of cases were german soldiers would actively seek to surrender to the british to avoid being captured by the soviets
@skyhappy 3 роки тому
Yeah, 3/4 of them surrendered to the Americans/western allies even though most fought on the eastern front
@margaretbell5028 3 роки тому
The Germans staved or otherwise killed millions of Russian prisoners of war is possibly the reason for that.
@keikei2942 2 роки тому
@@margaretbell5028 They also actively committed genocide in occupied Soviet lands and raped and pillaged a lot. Most Red Army soldiers probably knew someone that had been killed and/or raped as a result of actions carried out by the Wehrmacht and SS
@holydiver73 3 роки тому
My wife’s next door neighbour when she was growing up was an ex German Luftwaffe officer. He was shot down and spent the the rest of the war in England. After the war he settled in England, married an English girl had a had a family and he was one of the nicest guys I had ever met in my life. What he didn’t know about gardening wasn’t worth knowing and he taught me a few things. He’s sadly no longer with us. In contrast, my Grandfather was captured in North Aftrica in 1941 and spent the rest of the war in a POW camp in saxony where he was maltreated, beaten and tortured. After he came home, he harboured a life long resentment of Germans and vowed never to go Germany again and had to sleep with a nightlight for the rest of his life. He was a great man too and I miss him. I highlight these stories to show how we treated our prisoners compared to how the Germans did.
@MauriatOttolink 3 роки тому
HolyDiver73 Fully understand your position about your beloved Grandfather. I'm one generation later and have some sincere and valued German friends of about one and half generations later. They carry this clearly visible National guilt over something which happened about the time I was born and LONG before they were. It was all the result of what always happens when a minority takes control with outrageous views and then has the power to carry them out. WE must beware the same type of growing unscrupulous power-seeking which is happening today! Season's wishes to you and may you have a healthy New Year. Prosperous will have to wait!
@holydiver73 3 роки тому
@MichaelKingsfordGray well that’s a rubbish counter argument. You dishonour my grandfather by making it. You idiot.
@cheekytyke 3 роки тому
@@holydiver73 that is a very gracious reply. Your grandfather must be proud of you. You was obviously brought up well. Seasons greetings
@o00nemesis00o 3 роки тому
Jaded Jedi He was well within his rights to tell the idiot to go jump in a laks
@cheekytyke 3 роки тому
@@o00nemesis00o he really was
@99fruitbat 3 роки тому
I remember one German POW being amazed at being asked by a British leason Officer , if he was being well treated on the farm he was working on . I can also confirm that my German relatives prayed that it would be the British or Americans who marched into Berlin and not the Russians .
@desbrittain9952 3 роки тому
Unfortunately the Americans treated POWs disgracefully in Germany herding hundreds of thousands into open fields without shelter and very little food. Google Eisenhowers Death Camps.
@leehotspur9679 3 роки тому
@@desbrittain9952 Maybe the Execution of US troops around the time of the battle of the Bulge had something to do with it ??
@angelinazavala980 3 роки тому
@@desbrittain9952 the American prisons were still better than the soviet prisons. Many German soldiers retreated to American/British positions during the very late stages of the war. (not sure if the second sentence is true but I heard it in many videos)
@rogoth01themasterwizard11 3 роки тому
@@angelinazavala980 soldiers as well as civilians marched for miles west in order to surrender to British forces, i'm not 100% on the details but i was told that the soldiers would still wear their Nazi uniforms but had white armbands or other symbols of surrender when they approached allied bases.
@Epiphany-818 3 роки тому
@@leehotspur9679 "the nazis did it so why shouldn't we?"
@Kevin-mx1vi 3 роки тому
My Mum (born 1932) remembers Italian POWs working on farms close to where she lived, that they seemed very happy to do so, and that they were well liked and friendly. My late stepfather was a coal miner in South Yorkshire and worked in the mines with a small number of German POWs who were much appreciated and treated like anyone else. Coal mining is dirty, dangerous work and miners know they're relying on everyone else to get out alive at the end of a shift - the mine itself was a far greater danger than any "enemy".
@royfearn4345 3 роки тому
And Maggie stuffed the miners! Shame on her.
@paulefc1971 3 роки тому
@@royfearn4345 the miners were being stuffed long before Maggie came to power, she just finished the job
@Kevin-mx1vi 3 роки тому
@@royfearn4345 Don't forget the other heavy industries she stuffed. Funny that they were all traditional Labour voting industries, don't you think ?
@o00nemesis00o 3 роки тому
Roy Fearn how awful, closing down the evil coal mines
@Kevin-mx1vi 3 роки тому
@@o00nemesis00o It was more about destroying communities because they didn't vote Conservative. And mines are not evil, just dangerous, but men were proud to call themselves miners.
@skylongskylong1982 3 роки тому
20,000 Germans, and Italians decided not to go home, and stayed in the U.K. Check the statistics, it is eye opening.
@nigelmitchell351 3 роки тому
Wow.! I had no idea it was that many, my Mum's walk to junior school near Coventry took her past Italians working the fields, she always said how friendly they were and used to make the children corn dolls and toys. My friend's German father a POW, stayed in England at the wars end, his home was in the Russian zone. I used to work at GEC Rugby and there were ex German POWs working there in the 70's along with Poles, Latvians, & Lithuanians, their stories were well worth listening to. One man I remember called Paul told me he had been as far east as Moscow. Always amazes me that these all these men were accepted, I wouldn't necessarily say all these men were buddies but they rubbed along without any actual trouble.
@ronphillips3339 3 роки тому
In my early career I worked with both German and Italian ex POW
@skylongskylong1982 3 роки тому
@@nigelmitchell351 Thank you for your reply. The dark part is German POWs we’re kept in the U.K. till 1948 to work on the farms, and as Labourers. Due to Women’s Land Army wanting to return to civilian life. Clement Atley Of Labour has a lot to answer for.
@nigelmitchell351 3 роки тому
@@skylongskylong1982 I see nothing wrong with that, call it reparations, many of these men would stay anyway as their homes were in the East. Compared to how many survived internment at the hands of the soviets they were very bloody lucky. Also there were no Dachau's in Britain, no executions of airmen in forests. I don't believe any Germans were forced to perform engineering roles such as bomb disposal. You might consider the treatment of Polish prisoners at the hands of the soviets. My neighbour, a Polish officer captured by the Russians, was in forced labour, which meant eradication through starvation in Siberia, before the nazis saved his life by invading Russia and turning the poles into their allies by default. These men and women were offered the chance to join the Red army, which they declined, or be marched all the way to the middle east and j join the British, which they accepted. No comparisons are valid.
@biulaimh3097 3 роки тому
Their country was destroyed.
@gort5583 3 роки тому
Perhaps a good lesson for us all on how to be civil and human even in the worst of times!
@Ronnie-Jones 3 роки тому
The most forbidden documentary in history: “Europa The Last Battle” at archive dot org
@tonychristo8393 3 роки тому
Not only civil, which is what I would've expected from the british, even more so than americans, a very wise strategy!! Well done!!
@TheWtfnonamez 3 роки тому
Wise words brother. Our values mean nothing if we do not practise them universally.
@residentelect 3 роки тому
@@TheWtfnonamez Exactly. I was an RAF medic and did several deployments on Op Herrick and Op Telic. During my time on the ground I actually patched up more Taliban fighters, insurgents and Afghan and Iraqi civilians, than Coalition casualties. Some of the more zealous combatants would fight us as we tried to administer them aid, and would scream at our translators, demanding to know why we were trying to save them. They had been told by their leaders that British and American forces executed injured combatants via bullet to the head, or crucify them in the desert. It sometimes jaded me, but my Boss put it into perspective one day for me; "By doing the exact opposite of what they would do if the roles were reversed is how we know we are better. Just because that guy now laying on the ground was shooting at us not five minutes ago, doesn't give us the right to decide if he lives or dies, and that's why when he's in our hands he's not the enemy, he's a casualty of war." Always stuck with me, and helped me keep my faith in humanity despite experiencing some horrendous situations.
@TheWtfnonamez 3 роки тому
@@residentelect Thank you for your service. Your words were food for thought and very wise.
@Chalky. 3 роки тому
During wars soldiers are essentially just willing or unwilling tools for their leaders, so I do respect how fair they were treat and not just as an enemy to be punished.
@idfk1123 3 роки тому
Its because the British are civilized and dont see every german man (at that time) as an enemy.
@anav587 3 роки тому
@@idfk1123 Bull shit they were civilized. Churchill deliberately caused a famine in Bengal that killed 4 million
@idfk1123 3 роки тому
@@anav587 Jesus, no need to be like that!
@iancampbell4373 3 роки тому
@@idfk1123 It is however true!
@idfk1123 3 роки тому
@@iancampbell4373 Well, aside from that he did some amazing things for Britan and its commonwealth nations.
@TimmiTification 3 роки тому
As a British chap this makes me proud. Love can set everyone free. ✌️
@conor1940 3 роки тому
Pity ye still occupy parts of the world against their will
@billybobhouse9559 3 роки тому
@@conor1940 what parts of the world?
@conor1940 3 роки тому
@@billybobhouse9559 Gibraltar, ireland, Scotland ect
@abandonedworldgermany 3 роки тому
@@conor1940 Northern Ireland, Scotland and Gibraltar all have had referendums rejecting independence and on my last trip to Gibraltar I remember there being a lot of British flags flown round the country and outsides peoples homes ..
@conor1940 3 роки тому
@@abandonedworldgermany that's just false Scotland was the only one lmao
@brianrodney5202 3 роки тому
I remember the Italian POWs in Leeds. They couldn't stop smiling ,as they were only too happy to be done with the war !
@Hriuke 3 роки тому
Around Southampton the Italian community is fairly large with guys who chose to stay after the war.
@barneyquinn3657 3 роки тому
Ditto for Dewsbury, where I grew up!! 6 miles from Leeds.
@terryofford4977 3 роки тому
Hi Brian, coming from Calverley Nr Leeds, I lived adjacent to a POW camp during the war, Italian and later German POW'S The camp near my School was known as Ferncliffe, it was entered via Clara Drive, adjacent to St Wilfred's Church School where I was in the infants class, I'd have been around 8 or 9 by the time all the POWS had left when the camp was taken over by DP's (Displaced Persons obviously avoiding going back to live under Russian rules. I had known prisoners there from being around 4 years of age, Italians were first, Then Germans. There was a Submarine guy there we knew as 'The Captain, and another POW we knew as Hans Sherniman who my 18 years old Brother was to meet up with years later in Germ,any.After the POWS left, the ex Army/POW/ camp became a DP Camp for Displaced persons, Poles and others from Europe, we knew, met, played football/cricket with and many inter marriages took place, all memories about the place were goods, ones.Maybe this short note will jog a few memories.
@generalgta3528 3 роки тому
@@terryofford4977 Hey, are you old?! Please reply to me!!!
@queenbabylonia4594 2 роки тому
I don’t think the Italians wanted to be part of the German regime, Mussolini (Italy’s Dictator) made the pact with Hitler (Germany) , but I doubt the people agreed with Hitlers ideology .
@MauriatOttolink 3 роки тому
WELL WORTH A GOOD READ! There was a great story of a high ranking German Officer..p.o.w who was billeted in a private house in village in Scotland. Much later, the by then elderly lady described their 'guest' to whom they had given hospitality. "He was an absolute gentleman. He bowed and clicked his heels whenever we encountered him leaving the house or returning home. Spoke excellent English but had to learn our scottish accents. He did ANYTHING heavy about the. house. Wouldn't let me or my ailing husband carry anything heavy. In the kitchen he was limited but did any of the mundane tasks. Eventually he saw that our garden was badly in need of attention and said that at home his love was of gardening (Gartenarbeit) and would love to to tidy it up. The lawn was restored to its former glory and in autumn before he was repatriated, he gave the lawn its last cut before winter. She was asked for permission for him to plant some bulbs in the lawn. "They will be beautiful in Spring when I am gone... Something by which I hope you will remember me." She agreed and chose and financed the purchase of a large quantity of crocuses (croci?) and he spent hours of back breaking working, carefully planting these bulbs. He eventually made his courteous farewell speech. "Vielen Dank für Ihre Freundlichkeit und Gastfreundschaft während meines Aufenthalts in Ihrem schönen Land. Wir hätten wirklich nicht im Krieg sein sollen! " "Thank you for your kindness and hospitality during my stay in your beautiful country. We really shouldn't have been at war!" When the crocuses bloomed in March, before the grass needed cutting again, they read "HEIL HITLER!" in big letters.
@alexrennison8070 3 роки тому
Sacre Bleu!
@StillAliveAndKicking_ 3 роки тому
Funny but I don’t believe it.
@lukekelly8522 3 роки тому
That’s quality
@basicallydr3f273 3 роки тому
funny but i doubt its real
@iancampbell4373 3 роки тому
@@StillAliveAndKicking_ It is actually true. There are stories of POWs being smuggled to local dances for a night out. Comrie as a small town did very well from German gratitude to their treatment during WW2 after 1945.
@ScienceChap 3 роки тому
My late local priest was a former Luftwaffe fighter pilot who was shot down during the Battle of Britain and asked to stay in the UK post-WW2.
@fightersweep 3 роки тому
Fascinating! What was name?
@HM-hu4hu 3 роки тому
@Notareptile Kiddyfiddler?!
@charliezz6746 3 роки тому
I'm suprised a former luftwaffe pilot who could potentially have been flying over England hoping to bomb the country perhaps even civilian areas could become a priest years later in an English church etc
@MauriatOttolink 3 роки тому
Science chap I hear that he said "Pleeze.. Don't sent mee back to zat bloody saurkraut und currywürst!
@soupman3285 3 роки тому
@@charliezz6746 He was a fighter pilot. They had nothing to do with bombing england. They just escorted bombers that were actually going to bomb civilian areas.
@LukesYuGiOhChannel 3 роки тому
Britain showing their class as per usual.
@billolsen4360 3 роки тому
Well, Brits ARE very hospitable, so I guess that extends to enemy soldiers & airmen as well.
@Alexander_Snowden 3 роки тому
@@billolsen4360 Of course. We shot you down? Have a cup of tea, and sit out the rest of the war.
@madmike171 3 роки тому
@@Alexander_Snowden "Come on lad sit down and enjoy your tea, after all we dinged your nice fancy air-carriage, it's only fair".
@wildeyshere_paulkersey853 Рік тому
And what did we get for it.... Waste of time.
@DawgBreff 3 роки тому
During ww2 my great aunt was a member of the "Land Army", working farm land.. one of the farms used Italian POWs, and one day, one of the POWs made the mistake of squeezing her ass... She knocked him out cold with one punch, something he was apparently reminded of and teased by his fellow POWs over for the rest of his time in England. R.I.P. Betty ❤
@benx6549 3 роки тому
Betty was a liar
@prussr1885 3 роки тому
Ben x why
@anonimouse4678 3 роки тому
Was she northern
@DawgBreff 3 роки тому
@@anonimouse4678 a Stafford girl
@chickenandmushroompotnoodl3180 3 роки тому
I suspect a few “local” football teams lost games on penalties! I’ll get my coat.
@varthasvegenos 3 роки тому
Lol
@WarhammerLamenter 3 роки тому
Ffs man
@EmsterdamFalsetto 3 роки тому
😆🤣😂 some habits just don't change
@zenokada2278 3 роки тому
😂😂😂 Made my day
@annek.h.9733 Рік тому
The grandfather of a good friend of mine was a PoW in England and he said he and his comrades were treated strict but very well and fair by the English. He was so grateful for it and had nothing but much respect and gratitude for England and its people until he died. Thank you for treating our soldiers so nice though they were enemies. Regards from Germany.
@TheFiown 3 роки тому
There was a camp in Scotland behind my family home and the prisoners came to help in the garden and fields and often made things for the kids, no one treated them as the enemy, it was what it was.
@737simviator 3 роки тому
That is the idea so they dont escape.... In order to impede any potential escapes, POWs were paid not in British currency but with “camp money”, paper and plastic facsimiles which they earned for undertaking camp labour. However, somewhat inevitably, a thriving alternate industry sprang up. Willi Bungart is a German POW who was captured aged 17 and spent four years in a number of British POW camps. POWs who were considered to be “benign” were given the opportunity to earn “proper” money by working outside the camps. They were paid a fair wage for this work and many took the opportunity to save for a future outside the camps. The prisoners worked alongside locals and “lumberjills” - members of the Women’s Timber Corps - bringing in the harvest and helping with the timber management: “None of us liked the sugar-beet harvest,” remembers Gloucestershire man Humphrey Phelps in his book on wartime life, “but the Italians talked and laughed as they worked and occasionally burst into song.” Even local men and women whose loved ones were away fighting in the war and who were initially mistrustful of the “enemy” in their midst often found that this antipathy wore off once they’d spent some time working alongside POWs. It wasn’t uncommon for friendships to be struck up and for POWs to be invited into civilians’ homes for Christmas lunch. In Scotland, one farmer requested that the Italian POWs working on his farm be given permission to live in one of his outbuildings rather than have to make the long trek back to camp at antisocial hours.
@manutd19999 3 роки тому
Your gorgeous
@ivartheboneless5969 3 роки тому
It’s a bunch of shit. If your father or brother was out fighting and got caught they would be tortured too death if not worked and starved too death. But when they get caught we let them work on the farms and check in on them too make sure they are doing well. I know we’re meant too be the good guys but when are you just letting people off with horrible crimes.
@weirdstonk729 6 місяців тому
@@ivartheboneless5969 In this video he talked about one of the prisons which held POWs with very little to no Nazi feelings, he said the camps which held real Nazis were way stricter and didn't get the luxuries the prisoners in this camp did. British, French and American soldiers who were captured by Germans were also taken care of well although they treated Soviet soldiers like animals (which they returned to German soldiers who were captured after the war).
@kenttheboomer721 3 роки тому
My UK parents-in-law told a story of an Italian POW that was allowed to travel from one place to another on a bike. Apparently he would sing loudly with a "....lovely voice...." as he pedaled along. This was in Flintshire of N. Wales.
@cricketerfrench7501 3 роки тому
My Father "So Nestor how did you come to be a prisoner? Nestor " We were by the sea and it was hot so we went for a swim. When we got back to shore the British were there". Nestor was an Italian who remained in England for all of his life after being captured in North Africa.
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus 3 роки тому
Many Italians were sent to Australia and New Zealand where they endeared themselves to their captors and some even elected to stay after hostilities had ceased.
@mrhairyhobbit9999 3 роки тому
The Canadians treated there prisoners of war so well they didn’t want to leave
@K4izerr 3 роки тому
Sorry for taking you prisoner eh
@737simviator 3 роки тому
Thats the whole entire idea... In order to impede any potential escapes, POWs were paid not in British currency but with “camp money”, paper and plastic facsimiles which they earned for undertaking camp labour. However, somewhat inevitably, a thriving alternate industry sprang up. Willi Bungart is a German POW who was captured aged 17 and spent four years in a number of British POW camps. POWs who were considered to be “benign” were given the opportunity to earn “proper” money by working outside the camps. They were paid a fair wage for this work and many took the opportunity to save for a future outside the camps. The prisoners worked alongside locals and “lumberjills” - members of the Women’s Timber Corps - bringing in the harvest and helping with the timber management: “None of us liked the sugar-beet harvest,” remembers Gloucestershire man Humphrey Phelps in his book on wartime life, “but the Italians talked and laughed as they worked and occasionally burst into song.” Even local men and women whose loved ones were away fighting in the war and who were initially mistrustful of the “enemy” in their midst often found that this antipathy wore off once they’d spent some time working alongside POWs. It wasn’t uncommon for friendships to be struck up and for POWs to be invited into civilians’ homes for Christmas lunch. In Scotland, one farmer requested that the Italian POWs working on his farm be given permission to live in one of his outbuildings rather than have to make the long trek back to camp at antisocial hours.
@PaleRejent 3 роки тому
@22 22 umm is this a troll or a neo nazi
@matthewthesaladbowl6315 3 роки тому
@Bradyn Urfer I swear USA were famous for atrocities in ww2. That’s what I learned in chocolate land aka belgium
@matthewthesaladbowl6315 3 роки тому
@22 22 lmao nazi
@josephverrett1680 3 роки тому
When I was stationed in England in 1979 I met an ex German POW. He told me that they were sent out to work the farmers fields. Most time with one or no guards. I asked him why he didn't escape back to Germany he said he had it made was being fed well and treated better than in Germany and he would have to go back on the battlefield and he was forced into the army and didn't believe in Hitler's war.
@andrewripley7461 3 роки тому
Absolutely true. My old mechanic found his way to a Yorkshire POW camp. They we're forced to work on the farms, but if you did you got better rations and this was an incentive. In fact he said that the food was better as a POW than in the army. There weren't any real guards at the camp either, as none of them wanted to escape. He stayed and married a local lass after the war and set up his own garage business.
@davidjones332 3 роки тому
Before D-Day my uncle was a sergeant stationed at St Andrews. All the maintenance of their unit vehicles was undertaken by Austrian POWs, and one actually taught my uncle to drive.
@glenmartin2437 3 роки тому
I have met many German people who immigrated either to Canada, then the USA or directly to the United States. Their common remark was "too many ghosts." Many had lost many family members, sometimes their whole family. One German man had lost his wife and children, remarried only to have his second wife and children killed during an air raid. He hated the Nazis. He commonly asked me how we Americans would even allow the Neo-Nazis to even exist in the United States. I simply shook my head and said "We are naively stupid!" He was most grateful to be an American and to be free to remarry and raise children in a free land.
@kb.brandyn6798 3 роки тому
They boiled nat Turner alive and ate him in little jars made news articles about it🤷🏾♂️ were not too far off
@davidallen1516 3 роки тому
If you’ve never been to Eden Camp you are missing a great day out it’s a must see camp....
@suzyqualcast6269 3 роки тому
Point taken. Is it near to ex RAF/USAF Edenbridge ?
@stevetaylor8698 3 роки тому
@@suzyqualcast6269 No, I believe Edenbridge is in Kent and is some 250 miles from Eden Camp which is in North Yorkshire.www.edencamp.co.uk/
@sunnyjim1355 3 роки тому
I've been to Auschwitz. I even spent a night sleeping in one of the prison huts. So, going to Eden Camp would just be like going to Butlins to me.
@Fruitgum-xc7co 3 роки тому
I've been there during a school trip,
@gabrielleconway5219 3 роки тому
visited eden camp a couple of years ago.remember being astounded by the fact that the pow rations were better than what the locals were eating
@glynnwright1699 3 роки тому
We had a POW camp near our house. When the POWs left, the buildings were turned into home for families that had been victims of German bomber raids and had lost their homes. They continued to be family homes well into the 1970s, until better options were available.
@RobWhittlestone 3 роки тому
In the 1980's I worked with the son of a former German POW who had married an English girl. They settled down and lived the rest of their lives in UK. I am relieved that we treated them decently on the whole. Too many bad things can happen in wartime and it is not easy to keep to an honourable path.
@ivartheboneless5969 3 роки тому
Do you not think it’s a bit weird how if they caught your grandpa they would of worked, tortured and starved him too death, but they get caught here any they get given nice place too live a new job and people checking in on them too make sure they are getting treated well. Even when the Germans where the ones doing the most war crimes, and started the war by not abiding by there reparations.
@spencerwilton5831 3 роки тому
I still have various items given in thanks to my English grandparents by German POW's who assisted on their farm during and after the war. My grandparents treated them like family ensuring they were fed and clothed as well as their own. Many remained after the war and settled locally, others stayed in touch for the rest of their lives. I'm sure this was not at all uncommon.
@Lewakaassemme 3 роки тому
My (German) grandmother grew up on a farm in Bavaria, where they "employed" a handful of French POWs. She was quite young back then and used to play with them, she told me. They were treated as well as every native worker would have been treated, had their own rooms (she lost all of her four brothers who fell in Russia). Many came years later to visit her a couple of times. She passed away five years ago. I was glad to know my ancestors behaved human under these circumstances.
@bepolite6961 3 роки тому
I served with on a NATO unit in Holland, my boss was German Sergeant Major and many of colleagues were German also, they were a great bunch of guys and our families socialised frequently. I had previously been stationed in Germany and had a smattering of German, whilst these guys had spent 10 weeks in school learning English before being posted to the unit. Inevitably conversations would sometimes be about the wars. The conclusion would be, look at us now and how crazy and tragic the whole damn thing had been. One of the guys told me, his father was the only surviving brother of eight boys, his brothers all died on the Eastern Front, his father, was to young to be conscripted. I have some very fond memories of them all. I particularly remember the guys struggled to understand our, "Brits", sense of humour. In particularly taking the piss out of each other. Mike, our boss, would tell his German comrades, if the Brits take the piss out of you, it means they like you, your considered one of them. The guys struggled getting their heads around that concept. All in our 60's now. often wonder how they and their, now grown up kids are doing.
@jamesguitar7384 3 роки тому
@@bepolite6961We're the only people who will introduce a friend with " This is Bill . He's a knob"
@bepolite6961 3 роки тому
@@jamesguitar7384 lol
@naguerea 5 місяців тому
one of my 4 sons has a partner from Munich, her mother pays for dear Eliga;s private schooling, he is the top skier in his school runs faster than anyone else, speaks German like a native. how we love him.
@Dive-Bar-Casanova 3 роки тому
A Former German POW lives in our neighborhood and still on occasional evenings walks by our house. 99 years old. Immigrated to the US and became an exec with Benz. Captured in Africa, sent to the US and worked a citrus farm not too far from where he lives today. "We were well treated, even paid for our work" he once told me.
@manfreddreschflegel1067 3 роки тому
They were treated very well.My dad told me and he had nothing but praise for the British.
@mikewray6387 3 роки тому
good to hear Manfred, my father was a british soldier, he met my german mother in Braunschweig after the war, they settled in England in 1951, she never had a cross word said against her , i am the result so i love both countries. schone grussen aus england.
@manfreddreschflegel1067 3 роки тому
@@mikewray6387 My dad once said should you one day meet an english person always treat them with kindness and respect because I was treated that way.Little did he know that one day I would end up living here in Britain.That is now 41 years ago and I haven't looked back since.
@mikewray6387 3 роки тому
@@manfreddreschflegel1067 good to hear Manfred, your father sounded wise and kind, have a great christmas in these troubled times. schuss.
@manfreddreschflegel1067 3 роки тому
@@mikewray6387 Vielen dank und ich wuensche auch dir und deiner Familie eine Frohe Weihnachten.🍻
@generalbee2855 3 роки тому
My dad grew up near a POW camp. It had closed long before he was born, but a former POW stayed in the town. He married a local and started his own business. He sold ice cream to people and he was happy. Everyone liked him and he was kind. Not everyone on the opposite side of a conflict are evil. Some are quite nice.
@naguerea 5 місяців тому
well said .
@Pitcairn2 3 роки тому
My old friend Heinrich Kistenmacher was captured in Normandy, he did a stint in a US Camp then transferred to Pitlochry in Scotland, they were allowed out with supervison every weekend where they would bribe their guard with 2/6 pence to get into the local dance .. Here Henry met is wife, she was an assistant in Boots the chemist. They married after the war and Heinrich remained in the UK, where he became a manager at the local theatre and he was well respected by the town. later he taught German at a college in the Midlands.. alas Heinrich passed away very suddenly a few years ago, but we still keep in touch with his widow.
@5amH45lam 3 роки тому
👍😎👌
@Brigantius 3 роки тому
Many years ago I knew two former german POWs. One was a work colleague. He had been one of those allocated to a farm and had eventually married a local woman and settled here permanently. He never returned to Germany. He was very fortunate as he had spent much of the war as a soldier on the eastern front but had been in the west when captured by the British. He appreciated the way he had been treated here as a POW. He told me some stories about his experiences of the horrific conditions in the east. The second was a former U-boat officer. He learned good english while in the camps and a few years after repatriation to Germany his employer asked him to help open a branch factory here. He moved his family over here and settled here permanently, where he was a near neighbour.
@abandonedworldgermany 3 роки тому
Fantastic video very interesting and a side of history we don’t hear a lot about, love the video!
@desh5164 3 роки тому
Sensitively dealt with and extremely informative. I very much enjoyed it. Thank you very much.
@PassportToPimlico 3 роки тому
Trent Park in London was where all the very highest ranking prisoners were kept, unaware that the British had microphoned the whole place up. That in itself is a fascinating story.
@Michaelbos 3 роки тому
Wouldn’t you ? 😎
@PassportToPimlico 3 роки тому
@@Michaelbos They had microphones in some of the trees. Their handler would walk a general around the park, pausing at a tree to ask, "So what do you think of Mr Hitler?"
@alanjm1234 3 роки тому
It was found that treating prisoners well, and allowing them to associate with each other (while listening in) was more effective for gathering intel than torture.
@geoffstrowger9759 3 роки тому
I lived within a mile of that camp and never knew about it until recently!
@cideryeti7957 3 роки тому
Here is a YT PBS film of Trent Park. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/iKWQYXicgq2apY0.html
@moogdome2562 3 роки тому
Another really great and informative presentation. thank you.
@suzyqualcast6269 3 роки тому
Back that. Used to be several POW camps up round here in N. Derbyshire.
@MauriatOttolink 3 роки тому
moog Dome I couldn't agree more!
@JimHalpertFromTheOffice 3 роки тому
I love to study history and glad I stumbled upon your video. It shows a different perspective of a brutal war. Thanks for sharing.
@danbreen0 3 роки тому
Great video! Really enjoyed.
@TheUntoldPast 3 роки тому
Thanks for the comment mate! Glad you enjoyed :)
@Trevor_Austin 3 роки тому
Many Italians POW’s were “imprisoned” on the site of the London Gliding Club in Dunstable. They were split into three groups. There were the fascist nutters, disliked by everyone. Then there were the “can’t be arsed” and the majority whom decided to make the best job out what they had. They worked on farms, built houses, did small jobs, baby sitting and were apparently a delight to have around. May did not return to Italy and their descendants are still found in Dunstable, Luton and Bedford.
@FordyHunt 3 роки тому
"A society should be judged not by how it treats its outstanding citizens but by how it treats its criminals."
@queenbabylonia4594 2 роки тому
They were not criminals as such, they were Prisoners of War.
@gringopig 3 роки тому
Excellent presentation! Thank you
@tonyjedioftheforest1364 3 роки тому
Should say that this is an excellent video, I have just subscribed.
@oldseadog3386 3 роки тому
My grandfather had several German prisoners on his farm in Essex that went back and forth between the camp and the farm with just one guard. They were glad to be out of the war and worked well.
@g2macs 3 роки тому
You'll find that Glasgow had a large Italian community mainly from POW's who didn't want to go home. They were well respected (mostly) as they usually ran the best chip shops and Ice cream parlours in the area, In fact, locals didn't say 'chippie' but 'Tallies' when referring to them.
@oldman2800 3 роки тому
An Italian POW camp at Hay in outback Australia was the genesis of the most multicultural city of Griffith in Oz today. The Italian POWs were let out to work as the country was desperately short of labor, friends and relationships were begun as Italians were respected as our allies in WW1. When the war was over all the POWs were sent back home and as Italy was destitute many of them promptly brought their families back to Griffith and turned a sleepy country town into a dynamic modern city bring the best of their culture with them. My sister married an Italian migrant boy so it has touched and made an incredible influence for all of us.
@bionicdibble270 3 роки тому
Great video! Thank you!
@crumpetcommandos779 3 роки тому
Solid video mate!
@TheUntoldPast 3 роки тому
Thanks for the comment mate, glad you enjoyed it! :) I'll be doing another video soon about specifically life at the POW camp I filmed at.
@frankteunissen6118 3 роки тому
There were also several thousand German paratroopers in British camps in 1940. They had been taken prisoner by the Dutch in the Netherlands and shipped off to Britain.
@MauriatOttolink 3 роки тому
Frank Teunissen And your point is?
@JohnDayDude 3 роки тому
@@MauriatOttolink It's an interesting tidbit of history.
@terryansell6641 3 роки тому
Very interesting video thank you from New Zealand
@radiocrash 3 роки тому
What a fantastic video, thank you for making it.
@james-sy5js 3 роки тому
rgrg
@j_gibbon 3 роки тому
I think everyone in Yorkshire has been to Eden camp for at least one school trip, I went in 2006 I think.
@twooontheepicfish7162 3 роки тому
not wrong
@leeboy26 3 роки тому
Three times from three seperate courses. Not complaining, though.
@T-1001 3 роки тому
1995 for me, when I was in year 4. I bought a 9mm bullet keyring.
@j_gibbon 3 роки тому
@@T-1001 think I was in year 5 or 6 so 2005/6 can't tell but was a cool place I distinctly remember the hut that had fake fire and the fake smoke stinking and the wood fort play area.
@T-1001 3 роки тому
@@j_gibbon Oh yeah! I'd forgotten about the smells. Come to think of it my best friend bought a small bottle/vial of some sort of smell that he was very proud of.
@donohoe71 3 роки тому
Really well researched and narrated video, Love the montage that came with it. Thanks for posting
@desbrittain9952 3 роки тому
Poorly narrated actually.
@montygemma 3 роки тому
I can tell you from first hand testimony they were treated very well. My grandad was injured in Italy and was unfit for service so he spent the rest of the war as a guard. He said they all become friends, security wasn't very tight near the end of the war because they were treated so well they weren't going anywhere especially back to Germany and the Russian front.They ate the same food as the guards, got their cigarettes and even on occasions taken to the pub. After the war the guards and the prisoners even wrote to each other.
@monkeydust100 3 роки тому
I used to work in a factory (making engine parts)with a guy who was captured by the Japanese, one day a group of japanese came around the factory , I've never seen someone so scared in my life. RIP john .
@T-1001 3 роки тому
Not surprising. My great uncle hated them to his last day after what they had done to him. Tortured while building railways, survived a death march and as they retreated he was jammed into transport ships and was twice torpedoed by the Americans. First time he was picked up by a Japanese ship. Second time, he was pinned in the hold when some timber the ship was carrying fell on him as a result of the explosion. He nearly went down with the ship but the wood floated off him as the ship sank. He was picked up by the Americans after that. He weighed somewhere in the region of 5-6 stone.
@JohnDayDude 3 роки тому
@@T-1001 For those unfamiliar with the British "stone" as a measure of weight -- one stone equals 14 pounds. A person weighing 5-6 stone would weigh anywhere from 70 to 84 pounds.
@Neion8 2 роки тому
@@JohnDayDude Which in turn is around 31-38kg
@elistickband 3 роки тому
My grandad told me that early in the war, when groups of POW's were marched to the local camp, people threw stones at them. At the end of the war, when being repatriated, they threw cigarettes at them
@craigs71 3 роки тому
Eden Camp is great place to visit and not too far away is the Elvington Air Museum which is also worth a look.
@ml8182 2 роки тому
What elvington air museum never been
@CancerGaming56 3 роки тому
I know this one guy in my secondary school who’s grandfather was a POW, who left the camp after the war, settled down in Britain and married a British woman.
@TheUntoldPast 3 роки тому
That's a fantastic story mate, it was more of a common thing than you'd think following the Second World War. As the restrictions tended to be relaxed for the prisoners, naturally they became more sociable with people in nearby towns and villages. Infact within a few years after the war had ended, many Briton's had a great degree of sympathy for the POWs. Thanks again for the comment mate.
@CancerGaming56 3 роки тому
TheUntoldPast You’re welcome for the comment! I also heard about this Scottish village where most of the people there were descendants of German POWs. Forgotten it’s name sadly.
@TheUntoldPast 3 роки тому
@@CancerGaming56 Thanks mate! I'll have to have a little look into that village! See what I can find!
@CancerGaming56 3 роки тому
TheUntoldPast You’re welcome
@retiree1033 3 роки тому
Google George Gebauer, Hitler youth to Church of England priest.
@alanfrehley1373 3 роки тому
The complete opposite of a Japanese POW camp! Excellent video!
@billolsen4360 3 роки тому
A family friend ended up in one of those in WW2 at age 18. Had very little to eat & the commandant kept threatening him with beheading, probably just because he enjoyed watching a teenager deal with impending death. Never could get a good night's sleep.
@davidgiles5030 3 роки тому
A friend's father was captured at Hong Kong. He hated the Japanese with a fury till the day he died.
@katsuakira2724 3 роки тому
Staved because allies decided to bomb fields and blocked food so the remaining left over went to our own the people to blame for starvation was allies who like to bomb civilians
@SuperJohn12354 3 роки тому
The British invented pow and concentration camps in the Anglo Boer War , they took the families of the Boers locked them up and starved them and purposely infected them with measles and they were the lucky ones, Kitchener the British General in charge would organize sport styled hunts where British soldiers would be rewarded for killing anything that would deprive the enemy of sustenance including women and children, the Term Scorched Earth was invented in this time and referend to the destruction of houses and farms burnt to rumble. The Germans may be remembered for adopting concentration camps and there ruthless efficiency but it was the British that invented them .
@jimshepard7099 3 роки тому
Well done an excellent video . Can I suggest that anyone interested look at 'The Germans we kept ' based largely on a camp in Lancashire . This was made several years ago and has interviews with ex pow's and also local people . It really does give an insight into post war Britain and to a lesser extent Germany .
@mats7492 3 роки тому
My grandfather was a German POW in the US.. he always said he was never treated better than there... he actually gained weight and made friendships with the owners of the farms he worked at, getting invited to sit with them at the dinner table and such..
@nickdougan394 3 роки тому
In the mid 1990s I worked for a large agricultural society (The Royal Highland and Agricultural Society of Scotland) and amongst other things they issued medals for long-serving farm workers. At that time many applicants were Germans who had stayed on to work on Scottish Farms, had married and started families.
@glenmartin2437 3 роки тому
Thank you for the video.
@Pynaegan 3 роки тому
13:05 Damn, they even had a place where they could go in order to take matter "into their own hands".
@thegrandcoffein6928 3 роки тому
Lmao
@buddy5196 3 роки тому
U h o h .
@alanmarr3323 3 роки тому
I had an evening of free drinks because the owner of the Cafe had been a prisoner of war in Britain
@generalgta3528 3 роки тому
Wait, what do you mean?! Please reply to me, buddy!
@troikoth3332 3 роки тому
@@generalgta3528 yo wtf
@georgeknobbs504 3 роки тому
Very heartwarming. Working class people all over the world, from any country, will always find they have a lot in common in terms of values. Its the people at the top who are at odds with each other. The irony is, as it will always be, it's never them at the top who have to kill each other.
@lancehymers4674 3 роки тому
My dad was a rear gunner in a Lancaster bomber in 12 Squadron RCAF in WWll. He was shot down on his 11th mission over the Ruhr and made it as far as Holland before he was captured. He ended up in Dulag-Luft 13B and said several of the guards were guys who were captured in WWl and always treated the prisoners well because of how well they were treated in captivity. His story of the battle around the camp to liberate it (the SS decided to dig in around the camp after the guards fled to ambush the American unit heading for the camp) and the insane conditions in the camp and nearby town while they were waiting to be repatriated home make a hell of a story. He passed away four years ago. He would have loved this video. Thanks. Lance in Canada
@bcfairlie1 3 роки тому
Very informative. I knew nothing about this
@bossmusic8536 3 роки тому
*TheUntoldPast* Awesome and very cool music.. congratulations for this fantastic production and wish you all the best.. 🎬🎼👌🌎 i want see you on the top
@TheUntoldPast 3 роки тому
Thanks for the great comment my friend! Take care too!
@TrashRocksTheWorld 3 роки тому
My father was a German POW in Essex, the States and where ever they were sent. He said they were treated good, except in the USA when Belsen was liberated. They all had to watch the film to show what had been done in the concentration camps.
@JohnDayDude 3 роки тому
My German ancestors settled in Texas in the 1850s -- my grandfather was born around 1908 and grew up speaking German. When a German POW camp was built near his home, my dad told me that Grandpa would often stop and talk to the German POWs behind the wire. My dad, as a little boy, was terrified but Grandpa found some joy in speaking to them. The Germans there and at other POW camps in the U.S. were mostly well treated, and many came back to the U.S. to live after the war. But I imagine that when the Americans learned of the horrors of the concentration camps, some would have been angered by what the Germans had done.
@ezswann8176 3 роки тому
Thanks for the history... love it I subbed
@NilsAlbertsson 3 роки тому
I was lucky enough to visit Eden camp, not long after it opened as a museum several decades ago when I first worked in the UK, and it was good then... it looks like it has grown and improved quite a bit. I would urge and encourage anyone able, to visit the museum. Thank you for this video, The UntoldPast.
@davidbridge5652 3 роки тому
My Aunt is the result of my grandma getting it on with an Italian POW.
@Alistplay 3 роки тому
Cant blame her, those italian men eyy
@davidbridge5652 3 роки тому
@@Alistplay exactly, those Latin men with their charm's.
@ancientsolar2 3 роки тому
Pow Pow Pow and your Aunt appeared
@allenjenkins7947 3 роки тому
I've been told by several former Italian and German POW's that they surrendered as much to avoid starvation as to avoid dying in battle. For some of the Italians it was the first time in their lives they'd been well fed. Exactly the opposite to what happened to Allied prisoners of the Japanese.
@treadingtheboards2875 3 роки тому
Thank you, a very interesting video. I was born in Ayr Scotland in early 1945. In perhaps 1948/9, my family and I lived in a Nissan hut that was part of a large village of huts on the Ayr outskirts. In the 1970's, an uncle wrote a story of his life in Ayr during the war years (He was 18 years old at this time.) and of the Italian POW's that would regularly venture into town to visit cafes, cinema and such, and were made welcome my the greater Ayr population. He even mentioned that the Nissan Hut that I lived in as a 3 - 4 year old, was a former POW hut that had been transported to Ayr for local accommodation. (Citation needed.) 15 years ago, I played a German camp commandant in a stage production dealing with British POW's in Germany, doesn't fate have a sense of humor?
@peterherrington3300 3 роки тому
Really interesting video , top Marks 👍
@Anesthesia069 3 роки тому
My great grandfather drove German POWs around during WWII. My nan remembers being left with them momentarily a few times and they were apparently kind to her. One of them even made her a little toy.
@sammydingdong4540 3 роки тому
Very interesting video,sounds better than the "holiday" my Father dragged us to Butlins in the 1960's
@craigwilson9917 3 роки тому
I loved butlins holidays
@jimmcdonald9244 3 роки тому
Fascinating, thank you. Always wondered how the other side were treated.
@robertocorradi7571 3 роки тому
Thank you . . . A very good account .
@amazonianm8876 3 роки тому
In the South Somerset/North Dorset borders where I used to live there were several Italian families who had been POW's and who had settled in the area after the war.
@lagracie1012 3 роки тому
My Nana would go and flirt with the Italian POWs in their camp near Sunderland! She said they were allowed the go into the local town and mingle with locals so they weren't treated badly!
@HM-hu4hu 3 роки тому
One of the best parts of this video is the number of very interesting comments with examples and further information and context.
@kenmaund2836 3 роки тому
Excellent presentation. Regarding prisoner placement almost 100 000 Italians were shipped to South Africa, built their own town with a hospital, two theatres and numerous other amenities. The local camp commander was awarded a papal medal after the war.
@pauldarlington5589 3 роки тому
A book by James Bacque titled "other losses" brings a greater perspective to this story.
@kellybreen5526 3 роки тому
Getting sent to Canada 🇨🇦 would have been like being sent to heaven. Many former enemies decided to stay here post war. I am sure the US has a similar experience.
@nemo227 3 роки тому
I've read about such things. It was a very tough call for many German & Italian POW's in the U.S. & Canada because they had families back in Germany & Italy.
@rpm1796 3 роки тому
@@nemo227 There's a good documentary made by a German Canadian lassie...who's dad was a POW... 9,000 applied to stay, with many more who went back home...then brought their families back over in the '50s.
@nemo227 3 роки тому
@@rpm1796 It seems to be a basic part of human nature to want to live where you're not under the thumb of a government or king or despot.
@billolsen4360 3 роки тому
And Canada has a large immigrant population, so I imagine they were pretty well accepted.
@MauriatOttolink 3 роки тому
Kelly Breen Well after the pre war Weimar days when they had to ask for their day's wages at lunchtime so that they wouldn't lose the rest of the day's inflation, it isn't surprising.
@thedevilriders101 3 роки тому
Wonderful! Thank you!
@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 3 роки тому
This video is educational as I did not know this information.
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