How worried should Mercedes be after F1's Japanese Grand Prix?

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Was Mercedes' Japanese Grand Prix really as bad as it looked?
That and plenty more is answered on the latest episode of The Race F1 Podcast with Scott Mitchell-Malm and Mark Hughes joining host Edd Straw from Suzuka.
There's a discussion about the fierce battle behind the dominant winner including whether McLaren should be disappointed about its performance at Suzuka.
And as always, our trio tackled a host of questions from The Race Members' Club, including whether Charles Leclerc could have threatened Sergio Perez for second place had he qualified better.
00:00 - START
01:45 - How the race played out
5:16 - Did McLaren disappoint?
7:20 - What caused the strategic variance?
13:15 - Perez
15:29 - Alonso
18:57 - Should Mercedes be concerned?
23:52 - Tsunoda impresses at home
25:10 - The first lap crash
31:27 - Bottas sympathy corner
33:48 - Members’ Club questions
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@texantactical7787
@texantactical7787 29 днів тому
Something I think people are ignoring is that Mercedes as a team is simply not as good as people hold them up to be. They spent the whole hybrid era with a dominant car. They didn’t have to worry so much about set ups, strategy, etc. because the car was so strong. Now that the car isn’t dominant I think we’re seeing a lot more team performance flaws.
@williamtanuwijaya2744
@williamtanuwijaya2744 Місяць тому
To Mr Scott Mitchell I believe, I just can't see the signs and trends that you mentioned. The Mercedes car started the weekend with a better baseline because of the cooler track condition during practice sessions and quali, no? Not because they made progress or anything. Therefore, during the raceday when the track temperature was at the hottest, they were still going nowhere.
@cari187
@cari187 Місяць тому
Instead of inconsistent and slow, its just slow now. No idea how that's any better.
@ACMEpowersports
@ACMEpowersports Місяць тому
Because they are starting off each weekend with low fuel glory runs. Keeping fans and sponsors interested. When it matters they are nowhere.
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 28 днів тому
⁠@@cari187not slow in cooler temps, which was OP’s point. Their pace may be temp dependent, time will tell.
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 28 днів тому
Mitchell-Malm….. get it right. 😉
@cari187
@cari187 27 днів тому
@@seashackf1 Well I guess they can win the December to January races then 😬
@Ruylopez778
@Ruylopez778 Місяць тому
Why Merc used to be good: -Sound foundation from Brawn, Lauda & Schumacher, with lots of cash from Daimler, and influence over the regulations. -They continually developed the KERS system with McLaren, and the token system shafted the other teams while Merc were getting mileage and data. Honda waited until 2017 to make major changes and Renault weren't spending enough. Merc carried over that advantage from year to year as Red Bull do now. -Mercedes had a sophisticated suspension system, and part of the 2022 regulations change was removing those systems to make it more of a challenge for the drivers and easier for smaller teams. It was the first thing Merc complained about in 2022; we need to go back to active suspension. -They lost a lot of key technical people, and they were complacent in 2021, and focused on peak performance for 2022, then too proud to write off 2022 and focus on a decent car for 2024. Instead they wasted energy complaining about flexing planks and getting the ride height changed for 2023. It's an over simplification to pretend they were only dominant because of the PU in the past, but once Red Bull had parity in the PU they were able to put Merc under pressure. Ferrari and McLaren have been working on rebuilding their technical teams for years now, and it's starting to pay off. Clearly Merc have major issues with their correlation and they can't just spend their way out of trouble anymore.
@samudrasyarif6828
@samudrasyarif6828 29 днів тому
Yeah McLaren and Aston Martin have Worse PU than the Main team just say the perfomance only in 70-90% compared to Mercedes 80-100%, but the result they can achive better than Mercedes
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 26 днів тому
Well said
@orkanstas5854
@orkanstas5854 29 днів тому
The race is so smug when they talk about Alonso it’s disgusting to hear to be honest
@michaelp4122
@michaelp4122 15 днів тому
Alonso > Hamilton It's a shame Alonso was never in a race winning V6. He honestly has a 200 IQ. Remember how he purposely used the runoff in Russia to gain two positions at the start of the GP? Stuff like this, China sprint race, and Australia just show pure race craft.
@Iceman46
@Iceman46 Місяць тому
Not worried enough that every media outlet will stop writing articles about them constantly after every race like they are the only team that exist in their epic struggle for P7.
@SujithRajan
@SujithRajan 29 днів тому
I have never in my 20 years of watching formula one ever heard a driver volunteering to give up the position to his team mate and that too in the opening laps of the race. Also, Lewis said he did it because he had understeer! Really? It’s definitely very strange and you guys just dismissed that point completely.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 29 днів тому
Yeah what the hell went on there. Man did a reverse “Felipe is faster than you” lmao
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 26 днів тому
Yup… that was a way too obvious offer….
@alexcepile1420
@alexcepile1420 23 дні тому
It was to save his face. he knew that Russel would pass him so he made it look he had a "problem". Everything is so easy to read with him as he isn't the sharpest tool on the grid.
@michaelp4122
@michaelp4122 15 днів тому
"Alonso is faster than you" does that ring a bell?
@ChrispyNut
@ChrispyNut Місяць тому
26:00 - 'It's just the presence of Stroll that's the problem'. I have so much to say that it's too much and nothing really needs adding. 😆
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine Місяць тому
I have a lot to say about how TR only talks about 🇬🇧 drivers + MB & McLaren. The other 5% is dragging Alonso through the mud or downplaying his performances. Their hate for him is sad.
@ChrispyNut
@ChrispyNut Місяць тому
@@The_ZeroLine But you won't, instead you'll just whine that it's not what you want, even though you're here.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall Місяць тому
@@The_ZeroLine It’s a nice change from people saying he is top 3 on the grid with only “Hamilton and Verstappen”
@YoungMaster_626
@YoungMaster_626 29 днів тому
@@The_ZeroLine… you forgot mentioned Perez they hate him as well
@Ruylopez778
@Ruylopez778 Місяць тому
Once you realise that Ferrari [without 2x DNS, 2x mechanical DNF, an unfair grid penalty at Las Vegas] should have finished above Merc, and McLaren were better than Merc once they had their mid season update, then you can stop pretending Merc were the second best team last year. Since 2022 pundits have been talking about how Merc are too good to not be at the front - stuck in the mindset of 2019. If people would just ignore the gaslighting & melodrama from Toto (for the shareholders) then we could just accept they're a midfield team now, and not making progress.
@user-wy5xe6ht2m
@user-wy5xe6ht2m Місяць тому
Lol
@samudrasyarif6828
@samudrasyarif6828 29 днів тому
and Ferrari Punishment in Australia Last Year on Sainz Car
@quierover4locas
@quierover4locas 29 днів тому
That’s a lot of ifs, but I agree with you in the sense that Mercedes is a midfielder team now… having said that, Checo was in a risky position to lose P2 to Lewis last year, and there was also the episode of Verstappen shouting in panic “please no talking, I am on the limit!” when Lewis was Time Hammering in Austin. I would say they are a Consistent Midfield team with possibilities to surprise every blue moon.
@barrydavies998
@barrydavies998 28 днів тому
Just face the fact that Mercedes are doing vanity runs in practice for the sponsors benefit ... Peacocking the car until the real stuff hits the fan... Talking the talk but not walking the walk .... How the mighty have fallen
@rossrreyes
@rossrreyes Місяць тому
ALPINE is the one who should be panicking
@ACMEpowersports
@ACMEpowersports Місяць тому
Go ahead and say it. C'mon you can do it.. They are lost. Both the team and Lewis. The seven years of dominance was impressive but when you see the lack of competitiveness for three straight cars it makes you wonder how much of their past success was superior engine power and reliability from a headstart on the initial turbo/hybrid regs.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall Місяць тому
It was obviously engine power. Williams basically didn’t have a chassis and were still fast as absolute fuck When Mercedes were no longer the best engine, they dropped to last and NEVER recovered
@zzgaming29
@zzgaming29 Місяць тому
The significance of engine power was greatly diminished in 2017, and they still dominated for 4 years after that. Their problem is a lack of understanding of ground effects specifically. If we went back to mainly over body aero, they would still be on it, even with the immense number of experienced engineers they have lost.
@san-joshuabarrett
@san-joshuabarrett 29 днів тому
@@Duval-In-The-Wall Where do you guys get this nonsense that their dominance was only engine power and even if that's the case is something wrong with that?? In order to win you have to have some competitive edge over opponents. Talking like is so easy to build a fast and reliable engine, why couldn't the other PU manufactures build one as good then? You people just hate Mercedes and find every way to talk bad and downplay their achievements. What you are seeing now is nothing new in f1, other teams had this same luck Mercedes is having now after regs changed to end their dominance.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 29 днів тому
@@san-joshuabarrett Watch 2014, all the Merc powered cars had a huge edge over everyone else They dominated for 3 years, and by that point just switched their focus to aero now that they were so far ahead Engine advantage is what gave them this massive lead and forced everyone to play catch-up Also, Renault held Red Bull back SEVERELY
@san-joshuabarrett
@san-joshuabarrett 29 днів тому
@@Duval-In-The-Wall So what's wrong with having an engine advantage? Its not Mercedes fault the other teams didn't have a good engine. The other merc powered cars were good but weren't threatening Mercedes for the Championships because Mercedes had a competitive aero and advantage in PU. With RB now a have a competitive engine advantage in aero. Should we talk RBs aero advantage down like how you guys like to talk down on Mercedes PU advantage? Nothing is wrong with either. But to try and insinuate that it was all due to PU is pure disingenuous, when none of the then nor now had better aero than W11. And its not like Merc was blown out the parks by rb when it comes to aero back then. As they guy said merc had better overbody aero rb has better underbody aero. No need to try and down play the PU advantage merc had because its all part of the game and none works without the other
@johndansby3620
@johndansby3620 25 днів тому
Lance Stroll anywhere near the accident scene is the same as seeing a black cat cross in front of you…just unlucky for Daniel and Alex.
@urbanstrencan
@urbanstrencan Місяць тому
Was really surprised by Ferrari pace, Sainz is collecting get me points for 2025 😂😊
@tak8261
@tak8261 Місяць тому
Fully agree on the incident, anybody claiming it was Albon’s fault either haven’t seen the footage properly or don’t understand the rules. So careless of him to assume the right side was open.
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine Місяць тому
Who tries to go three-wide into that corner on the _outside_ while in a driver’s blind spot. It’s obvious no one on the TR team has ever raced. But Albon is a Brit so this reaction is hardly surprising.
@tak8261
@tak8261 Місяць тому
@@The_ZeroLine it wasn’t three wide. you clearly haven’t watched the replays properly. Stroll was well behind Daniel so Daniel had no need to move to the right.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 29 днів тому
Alvin 😂 In all seriousness it was DR’s fault
@travispherson7519
@travispherson7519 Місяць тому
Maybe the Mercedes drivers are not as fast in the real world as they are in the virtual world?
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 26 днів тому
Lol
@tunisiandom9318
@tunisiandom9318 Місяць тому
9:27 Yes Sainz was held up by Norris and Charles wasn't held by Piastri ...
@BTG07
@BTG07 Місяць тому
Mercedes have been getting it wrong for the past 3 years wtf. 2014 is basically the result of 3 years of Brawn meticulous planning. It took a major rule change to undo the momentum/advantage that mercedes had since 2014. The finance guy is good for stability which is what merc need after 2014, but to dominate they need a revolutionary guy like Brawn.
@aarongreen121
@aarongreen121 Місяць тому
Is this a Horner burner account? What I like about your comment is that you've managed to arrive at that point of view all of your own volition. And in no way have you parroted what someone else has said, someone who happens to work in the paddock....
@hankrearden5460
@hankrearden5460 Місяць тому
The thing is Merc doesn't have the people in place to understand ground effect rules. This is clear, in 2014 it was far more about the engine than the aero and they held that advantage for 8 years.
@evilzzzability
@evilzzzability Місяць тому
Even the 2021 car missed the target and was behind for 2/3rds of the season.
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine Місяць тому
I’ve said this 100k times. Toto and Lowe coasted off of Brawn’s hard work with the aid of amazing development drivers (MSC and Nico) + the best engine ever.
@aarongreen121
@aarongreen121 Місяць тому
@@evilzzzability more because the regs got changed to hamstrung them. They had a high rake car and FIA/F1 made it so that the lower rake car's (ie Red Bull) wouldn't be at such a disadvantage. That's pretty well known.
@LionAndALamb
@LionAndALamb Місяць тому
The car had decent race pace. They obviously need work on Quali pace. Also, the fact that they completely missed on the tire and strategy calls is a head scratcher, but not all that unusual for Merc to get it completely wrong a couple of times during a season.
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 26 днів тому
They drove that Merc to the max…. THATS their issue… this is their maximum… the others werent driving on their maximum, RBR, Ferrari,…. Merc are truly further behind than ppl say they are
@Mj-yh2vb
@Mj-yh2vb Місяць тому
Mercedes is having a 5 alarm fire level of panic. Hamilton was 48 seconds behind Max while he was cruising at 80-90% and Hammy was flat out the entire time. They will finish 5th in constructors if Stroll gets his head out of his daddys ass and finishes 8th where he should. Papa Stroll has spent insane amounts of money just to watch lance piss it away like he doesn't even want to be there. He has no drive and doesn't care if he finishes 18th or 5th. When he can't be fired he knows he doesn't have to try any harder than what's required to get around track and not crash...oh wait lololol nevermind that last one
@wesmanpipes9430
@wesmanpipes9430 Місяць тому
Both Merc drivers were tire saving, not driving flat out. They were the only ones really attempting a one stop, since they went to hards at the restart.
@connorclarke1218
@connorclarke1218 Місяць тому
@@wesmanpipes9430nobody in an F1 race has ever drove flat out so I don’t think that’s what he meant. I would guess Lewis and George were pushing harder than Max likely the entire race. Yes he had the lead and was coasting but that’s the point. He pulls out the fastest lap late into the stint of hards, there’s just a night and day difference between those cars right now
@wesmanpipes9430
@wesmanpipes9430 Місяць тому
@@connorclarke1218 Most race weekends with relatively the same strategy amongst all cars, I would say that Mercedes probably drives closer to the limit because they have to. At Suzuka they were extending their runs on the hards therefore they werent likely able to push anywhere near as hard or their tires would fall off ruining their startegy.
@connorclarke1218
@connorclarke1218 Місяць тому
@@wesmanpipes9430 I agree. They have the worst car right now between Ferrari and Mclaren. They also have two of the best drivers, some have said the best driving pair overall in terms of talent.
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 26 днів тому
Exactly!
@Loudeboss
@Loudeboss Місяць тому
Bitterness about Alonso is lame - grow up lads
@Marko-od7eb
@Marko-od7eb Місяць тому
Yep, in every podcast they are downplaying his success.
@Loudeboss
@Loudeboss Місяць тому
​@@Marko-od7eb Seems even more disingenuous given they have such a close working relationship with the drivers, interviewing them week in week out
@Marko-od7eb
@Marko-od7eb Місяць тому
@@Loudeboss And that is the reason why Alonso gave 58 min long interview to the "High Performance" podcast and not to "The Race".
@Loudeboss
@Loudeboss Місяць тому
@@Marko-od7eb Karma ehe
@RuboStars
@RuboStars 27 днів тому
When will the Race stop talking about Mercedes like they are the only team that exist? Panic? They're a midfield team, and thats where they are. Its ALPINE that should be panicking!!
@ronmurray7349
@ronmurray7349 Місяць тому
Great Podcast -- Thanks
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine Місяць тому
Alonso’s needs to be his own salesman because the British dominated media totally ignores him, unless they have an opportunity to drag him through the mud. See: TR
@victormiguelmontero136
@victormiguelmontero136 26 днів тому
Its been like this since 2007, nothing has changed
@Theotheradamyouknow
@Theotheradamyouknow Місяць тому
Unfortunately
@tsheposeeletso6475
@tsheposeeletso6475 Місяць тому
What is the one thing RB is doing so much better than all other teams that they just can’t figure out
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine Місяць тому
Newey.
@user-wy5xe6ht2m
@user-wy5xe6ht2m Місяць тому
MV and Newey
@Ruylopez778
@Ruylopez778 Місяць тому
Your first mistake is pretending there is "one thing"
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine Місяць тому
@@user-wy5xe6ht2m Max, is amazing but he’d be fishing in third or worse every race too if he wasn’t in the Red Bull. Adrian Newey’s chassis, even when they didn’t win (unreliability or poor PU), have been the fastest on the grid nearly every year since literally 1992. And his Leyton House when first introduced it in the late ‘80s was immediately copied by nearly all the other teams and introduced most of the features we now think of as standard to every chassis.
@user-wy5xe6ht2m
@user-wy5xe6ht2m 29 днів тому
​@@The_ZeroLine❄️❄️❄️👋
@KeenJT
@KeenJT Місяць тому
The contract renewal chat was great - Marko is an outright savage
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 28 днів тому
Honestly I think Marko is pissed off Perez is doing what he needs to do because if he keeps finishing 2nd there will be no legitimate reason not to offer him a new deal. I also think Horner is backing Perez and this obviously greatly annoys him.
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 26 днів тому
@@MrSniperfox29yup, Marko wants Carlos…cos he wants to give Horner issues between the drivers… he wants to make Horners job more difficult lol
@nathanmadox3364
@nathanmadox3364 Місяць тому
I feel so bad for GR. As soon as he gets there Merc looses their cool and never got it back. He deserved better and probably would beat LH at this point in a winning car
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall Місяць тому
Very unlucky for him, he genuinely would have been able to fight for championships against Hamilton if his career started 2-3 years earlier
@samudrasyarif6828
@samudrasyarif6828 29 днів тому
@@Duval-In-The-Wall I think Hamilton using back hand deal to stop Mercedes Recrute Russel earlyier than her contract
@MrSniperfox29
@MrSniperfox29 28 днів тому
@@samudrasyarif6828 To be fair, Williams were the main obstacle in Russell moving teams, as they shocked Mercedes by actually sticking to the original contract and not backing down. This is why Bottas was only given new deals after Russell was confirmed by Williams. While I believe Hammy definitely preferred Bottas, I doubt he had any input in Russell coming in.
@darensavy5014
@darensavy5014 29 днів тому
Its now 3 years when i called out Merc never winning a championship again for many decades! As a fan of Motorsport in general why do the pundits/journalists/speakers , continue to question Mercs performance like there a top team that should be winning! My opinion to all is to find out WHY Merc won 8 Championship in a row! I know and thats why i said what i said about Merc. Like Lewis going to Ferrari, seriously this will be a fundamental mistake that will be embarrassly spoken about for decades to come. Lewis wont win a race let alone beat Charles , nor a championship & $100 million 🤬 up!
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 29 днів тому
It’s not a sporting decision it’s a branding exercise. And it’s already been a success and paid for itself 10X over.
@AJ-zy9jf
@AJ-zy9jf Місяць тому
Williams screwing over Logan on the pit stop hasn’t been talked about at all. The kid had to push extra hard to just catch up. Literally went into the pits at p12 and left at p16.
@swordsman1137
@swordsman1137 Місяць тому
Yeah, Logan have decent race. The strategy and pit stop failed him
@fintonmainz7845
@fintonmainz7845 Місяць тому
10 teams on the grid and you're obsessed with the team carring the "mercedes" label. It's not as if they're an old team. They are a rebadged Brawn F1 team. Here today. Gone tomorrow
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine Місяць тому
Nearly all TR talks about is 🇬🇧 focused topics: 50% Merc, Lewis + George; 25% McLaren & Lando; 20% Ferrari and RBR; 5% dragging Alonso through the mud or ignoring him.
@reesilva1
@reesilva1 29 днів тому
video please
@jimpolk
@jimpolk Місяць тому
Seriously concerned.
@jordza2k11
@jordza2k11 Місяць тому
Ah you love to see the struggles
@abutalibalikazmi4277
@abutalibalikazmi4277 Місяць тому
Very
@backupdancer3720
@backupdancer3720 Місяць тому
Mercedes fans: James Allison will save us! He wasn't involved in the W13! (He was) James Allison: (Homer Simpson GIF)
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall Місяць тому
Lmao
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 29 днів тому
It seems so clear that the concept, the entire way of thinking about these GFX era cars at Merc is Allison’s mess. Elliot’s mistake was not resisting enough and forcing a complete change. Toto has identified the wrong targets and endorsed the wrong people. If he wasn’t an owner his job would be in jeopardy.
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall 29 днів тому
@@f.kieranfinney457 Toto got it horribly wrong, but honestly I could have predicted that after that the “everyone has a target on their back” bit Can’t imagine morale was helped by Hamilton bashing the car every 20 seconds of this rule change
@feisty8
@feisty8 Місяць тому
The domination era of Mercs is OVER ... it doesn't matter what they do/change, it ain't coming back soon .. also now you know why Hamilton left.
@nigelking2484
@nigelking2484 29 днів тому
Has Logan lost his China race because of Alex's crash again?
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 26 днів тому
No the chassis is being repared
@bladefiser2242
@bladefiser2242 Місяць тому
I’ve made jokes at the beginning of the year about Mercedes potential fall to midfield mediocrity and thought I would enjoy it, it’s just sad though
@Ruylopez778
@Ruylopez778 Місяць тому
Yeah, it should be funny to laugh at them, but actually iI'm just apathetic. Despite how smug they used to be, I almost feel sorry for them at this point.
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine Місяць тому
Mercedes and British drivers are the only thing you guys EVER seem to talk about. Well, unless you have a chance to slander Fernando. That’s your favorite. How worried should Merc be that George clearly isn’t a WDC caliber driver should be a topic you guys address. But I doubt that would ever happen.
@paullavallee1631
@paullavallee1631 Місяць тому
Time for a complete refit of the Merc team
@royshroud9536
@royshroud9536 Місяць тому
Crapping their shorts ! But maybe Ferrari should be equally concerned after signing slow Hamilton!
@tjantilag
@tjantilag Місяць тому
Best his team mate in qualifying and made up for being under cut twice and behind by 9 seconds to be under 2 at the end.
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 Місяць тому
Fast or slow they know exactly what they are getting for 2025. He finished P3 last season, he's basically the same driver.
@royshroud9536
@royshroud9536 Місяць тому
@@soundscape26 Has he won recently? Note recently. Sainz is burning up the competition but he's getting dumped.
@khalidmartie5854
@khalidmartie5854 29 днів тому
Its almost ALMOST like the Ferrari is the 2nd fastest car and the Mercedes an absolute tractor............ oh wait
@stevepiccinnin1157
@stevepiccinnin1157 Місяць тому
Ferrari’s coming!
@WRXMAN-ms2mm
@WRXMAN-ms2mm Місяць тому
Ferrari is coming? Ferrari was how far behind Sergio? 8 seconds, not within DRS . And how far behind Max? 20 .9 seconds, say 21 seconds or almost the time for a pit stop. Respectfully that is crawling after RB. Are they better yes but RB needs to consistently DNF at this point for Ferrari, McLaren, and AM to win. Mercedes isn’t even in the picture. Wish it wasn’t so and I like RB. Am not a super fan but this is supposed to be racing, not driving off into the distance and not challenged on race day.
@stevepiccinnin1157
@stevepiccinnin1157 Місяць тому
@@WRXMAN-ms2mm yes they are crawling still, but they’re still coming
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 26 днів тому
They have been coming for over 15 years now….
@stevepiccinnin1157
@stevepiccinnin1157 26 днів тому
@@Redlingstein they’re coming, this time feels different, I know I know , but if it had been during Binottos tenure , I would’ve agreed with you.
@WRXMAN-ms2mm
@WRXMAN-ms2mm 26 днів тому
@@Redlingstein ...... taking one step forward then two steps back, then one step forward then three steps back. With a touch of fuel delivery shenanigans mixed in for good measure.
@leroybutcher
@leroybutcher Місяць тому
What have Ferrari done🫣 getting rid of their best driver🤔
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine Місяць тому
lol, people get hyped over a tiny sample size of races. Carlos was a disaster in 2022 when the car was at its best.
@leroybutcher
@leroybutcher Місяць тому
@@The_ZeroLine maybe in the early part of season of 2022 before he got to grips with the car and since then has been the only challenger to Red Bull in both 2023 AND 2024 so far mate!
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall Місяць тому
When they built a car good enough to compete for regular wins, who was there fighting Max? Hint: It wasn’t Sainz
@Duval-In-The-Wall
@Duval-In-The-Wall Місяць тому
@@leroybutcher “The only challenger to Red Bull” 7th in the standings How much of last season did you watch 😂
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine Місяць тому
@@leroybutcher The only challenger? CL is 47-27 in head-to-head quali w/CS & outscored him every season so far, right? Don’t get me wrong, Sainz is fantastic + incredibly evenly matched with Leclerc, but it’s silly to act like either has any major edge. Sainz has much better race craft and Leclerc has better ultimate pace. When a car is designed to be driver friendly, Sainz excels. When a car is designed to be as fast as possible (pointy front end), Leclerc excels.
@The_ZeroLine
@The_ZeroLine Місяць тому
Who tries to go three-wide into that corner on the _outside_ while in a driver’s blind spot? Albon put himself in a really dumb position, but he’s 🇬🇧 so oc they’ll defend him.
@f.kieranfinney457
@f.kieranfinney457 29 днів тому
I think Daniel has 60% of the blame there.
@user-wy5xe6ht2m
@user-wy5xe6ht2m 29 днів тому
​@@f.kieranfinney457😭😭🤣
@user-wy5xe6ht2m
@user-wy5xe6ht2m 29 днів тому
​@@f.kieranfinney457🇬🇧😂
@rz5090
@rz5090 Місяць тому
Seems like Mercedes has been going downhill since Nikki Lauder died. Just sayin
@evilzzzability
@evilzzzability Місяць тому
Mercedes suck.
@frogandspanner
@frogandspanner Місяць тому
Mercedes should be delighted to be getting rid of the jewel-rattling mid-Atlantic liability that is Hamilton, who will drag down Ferrari. Mercedes previously had an engine advantage, but lost key staff to RBP with the Honda threatened withdrawal. Not very clever. They failed to attract a top aerodynamicist for the shift from engine/power train to aerodynamics. Car = thermodynamics + aerodynamics (T + A) Mercedes reduced T without increasing A. They have only themselves to blame.
@deepblue3741
@deepblue3741 Місяць тому
Give it a rest
@agux0
@agux0 Місяць тому
You sad man, y u hav to be mad
@alankillian4962
@alankillian4962 Місяць тому
"Fix your G-Damn car."
@frogandspanner
@frogandspanner Місяць тому
@@agux0 Yes - I am very, very angry at Hamilton's delusions of his own ability. Over the last two years he has tried to instruct his engineers on engineering. He is the Michael Jackson of F1 - a hydroponically grown driver, and all he can do is drive a car. Like Jackson with music he can use his skill _extremely_ well, but that's all. Had he just got into the car and driven it to the best of his ability I'd have admired that, but when he became delusional I got fed up with the horse trying to design the cart.
@aleksavijatovic8834
@aleksavijatovic8834 Місяць тому
@@frogandspanner Hamilton is a moron but he is not the reason why Mercedes is struggling, its Toto’s fault, he is the one to blame, he should have hired new engineers and chief techincian instead being obsessed with Red Bull
@michaelc821
@michaelc821 Місяць тому
Worse than last year. Good thing Lewis is leaving in October.
@Redlingstein
@Redlingstein 26 днів тому
December you mean
@michaelc821
@michaelc821 26 днів тому
@@Redlingstein Sorry, December..
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