The reason why the 12 mini from back market had such a low battery health percentage was because the 12 mini had a huge flaw in it's battery as apple made it far too small for it's internal components, therefore it's battery health decreases significantly lower than other iphone models

I understand your methods for the video, but I think going for the best condition possible from BackMarket would have been a better test. Given that Apple replaces the externals of their phones, you’re basically comparing a new iPhone to a used iPhone, and being slightly disappointed that the new phone looks better than the used phone. If you had gone with the excellent condition, you would be comparing the phones on a much more level playing field, and then making the determination on whether or not a couple scratches and 98% battery health vs a new iPhone is worth it for £180 difference. Cheers,

POV: you thought it said Black Market

The main reason why people chose apples refurbished products is because apple puts the used internals into a brand new body with a new battery so you are pretty much getting a brand new phone besides the brains. And you get a new cable with it. Whereas backmarket the battery could be low and the condition can be bad.

Don’t forget to consider the Apple student discount program. And, they don’t care to check, even if you’re a student or not.

I just found this guy on my recommended and he really should have so many more subs than he does now.

Hey, id like to share my experience with backmarket. My first order got canceled because of stock issues. The second one came delayed, and the display on the phone was replaced with an aftermarket one, that was extremely low quality. True tone was non existant, 3d touch didnt work and the touch itself was really not working properly. They happily took it back for a refund though, so its more of QC than anything really

Awesome video with a great production quality! Can't believe you don't have more than 10K subs.

Great review, really helpful. Having owned a 6S Plus from new, I’m thinking about refurbished and looking at a 12 Pro Max. I guess your fair one was just that, so I’d definitely be looking at a much higher condition one. The Apple refurbished is definitely as new and the new case and battery are certainly a plus.

Apple refurbished products are brand new products that have a defect, they fix it and sell it as refurbished

WOW this video really engaged me. I didnt even notice you only have 500 subscribers. The editing is awesome and you deserve more fame

Only 611 subscribers??? I expected to see at least 100k. Great quality

Great video man! You should try buying a more expensive tier phone in backmarket, at least good if you really want to have a "clean" phone. I bought my phone in swappie and i bought the C tier one, and weirdly enough they gave me a free upgrade to a "B" grade since the C one was out of stock it seemed. The phone came only with one small sratch on the back glass but the rest was super super clean and really seemed like new. Battery health at 100% and the phone is an american model too. I really encorage people buying used iphones from this two brands since they have a good and trustworthy "name" with tons of happy people with they service :D

A few weeks ago I bought a 256GB Samsung S22 Ultra from Back Market in "Good" condition for only 660€ (about 565£). It looks brand new except for 2 tiny scratches on the corners of the screen. The battery easily lasts an entire day. The display has been replaced at some point because when you look very closely you can see glue residue in between the top and bottom seams. But thats to be expected when you buy refurbished. All in all I'm happy with my "new" phone and I'll probably buy from them again in the future. Oh yeah, only 30 hours after I placed my order, the phone arrived in Belgium all the way from Estonia. That's actually really impressive.

I’ve always wanted to see a comparison between Backmarket and Apple refurbished. Thanks for this! Can you do one with swappa and other refurbished sites? I

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BackMarket provided the platform for 3rd party refurbishers to sell their iPhone products. Unlike BackMarket, if you have trouble with the phone you can easily get it repaired or replaced at the Apple Store. Also Apple Certified Refurbished qualify for the AppleCare extended warranty program.

The problem with the iPhones recently is even if you have a case the get so scratched up on the sides. I had a 11 pro max and 14 pro max and both are scratched to poop even though the were in official apple cases

just my two sense, id think the fair condition androids that look better than fair is because the outer casing on androids is much easier to replace than apples. id also think that's why apple asks as much as they do for the official refurbished ones as i cant imagine its easy to replace their outer casing.

This is a really good video! Love the content and this is the type of content we need

Insanely clean video editing skills; I was surprised by your sub count. Good work :)

Nice video - well done. I have bought 4 phones from BackMarket and one MacBook Pro and the condition of all 5 have been without any scratches or damage - I bought Fair condition each time as each time the condition has been so good. One of the four phones was an iphone, the other three are Google Pixels. I am shocked at how beat up your iPhone 12 was. What happened?? I am really surprised / shocked.

I can't wait to see this guy blow up. Just subscribed!

Ive bought all my techs in fair on back market and it always amazes me how "fair" quality it is because its really good

I mean for a guaranteed new screen, battery, frame, and back glass.The price jump isn't too unreasonable

New subscriber here! Found your channel whilst researching refurbished iPhones and I can’t stop watching your videos. You have a great unique style and video format, looking forward to your next video 😀👍

I bought a s21 5g double sim on BackMarket last month What i found funny is that the regular s21 5g was at like 350€, while the excellent condition double sim version was at 310€..

Interesting video - thank you. Over the years I've bought a few things (mainly Macs, in fact) via Apple's refurbished channel and they've all been very good. Indeed, on occasion I got a better deal than I had expected - a 2017 iMac came with several upgrade options installed (extra memory & upgraded processor), so the 12% saving on the model list price (i.e., without the upgrade options) turned out to be nearer 20% against the new price with the options. So I'm a fan of Apple's refurbished channel. I still think you're over-rating that phone from BackMarket. I would be especially bothered about that battery rating - at 87% it's a long way down the slope. Maybe another couple of years of useable life? You could end up paying another £230 then to replace it, whereas the phone from the Apple channel will be good for 5 years or more. As Captain Vimes spotted, people who buy expensive boots end up paying less for footwear over the long term....

I think you gots to go excellent. Wait and save if you have to bc it changes the whole experience having a pristine device. This is especially true when you consider how much longer you can keep an iPhone versus other devices.

The content quality is amaaazing!! Keep it up 💯

Dude how do you have 660 subs this video is such good quality!

How much was a top range on back market since I’m guessing that be similar to apple

Loved your video, Although I wish you would have gotten the excellent condition from Backmarket for a fair comparison. To show which one was worth it. This felt kinda biased since apple had everything changed. But I understand the financial restrictions.

Do you have any experience with the Asurion protection plan they offer during checkout? I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with a refurbished phone from this site but I'm sure my mom will drop the phone. I would like to know if the protection plan would be worth it.

I personally use the Apple Certified Refurbished store. I bought my 12 Pro from them and it looks just like brand new, and even 7 months later, the battery is still at 100% health. I had ordered an 11 Pro, and a XR form Backmarket in the past. I returned them as I wasn't happy with them. Could tell that the screen had been replaced with aftermarket ones and did not look that good. I also did order a 6S from them, but there was either a battery or a logic board issue with that one.

i got an 11 pro max in good condition from back market coming up 2 years ago now and it arrived in brilliant condition zero scratches and its served me well. the charger port has recently decided to play up, cleaned it out worked for a bit now broken again, just ordered a new 15 pro instead of going second hand again

I bought a iPhone8 from BackMarket and it arrived in a USPS clear plastic back The original package was soaking wet and mangled beyond hope. The post office had pretty done their best to destroy it. My experience from repairng mobile devices for 10 years is that moisture is a phone's worst enemy and I do not doubt that it will spell the end for this unit. That being said BackMarket had only use a small flat rate box for a shipping container and the phone it's self was in a plastic bag and they had used a USPS padded envelope for cushioning. This was substandard packing and I was not impressed. In addition the screen had two scratches on it one was 3 inches long and the other about 1 inch long. I asked for a replacement and they told me they would send me another if I sent the original back to them or I could PAY for a another and then send the other one in for a refund. My opinion is if I have bought and paid for a decent phone then they should provide me with what I paid for. Once I received the replacement then I would return the original phone but they have refused to do that. The bottom line is this was the first and the last time I will do business with them so beware.

Just saw that you replying to almost all comments❤BTW Iam from South asia and wanted to ask if this website working here too?

iPhone mini are notorious for early battery deterioration. I have a 13 mini and within a year the battery health was about 80%. I later figured out that the phones weak antennas and the constant signal searching caused a fast battery drain. When I am home, or connected to WiFi, I switch to Airplane mode and use WiFi calling to receive calls and texts. Battery then drains much slower.

In my country I always buy and resell phones illegally imported without state taxes (damn, what a sinner I am). And despite the fact that I live on the opposite side of the world from the USA, it always surprised me that both new and used versions for the American market are always so cheaper than any others.

I regretted buying new macbook. Should’ve just bought excellent condition one from Refurbed or Black market

I thought the title said Blackmarket instead of Backmarket 💀💀💀

Apple refurbished doesnt have the iphone 13 mini i want in stock :(

I purchased a Samsung Galaxy S21+ 256gb from back market for around 350 euros in the good condition because excellent was sold out. The phone arrived in way different packaging than in the video, it arrived in back market branded packaging with the receipt and a thank you note and the phone was in a little compartment in the box in a ziplock back with a clear case on it. It also arrived with a Samsung type a to c cable. The phone works flawlessly and it arrived in good cosmetic condition. The only caviat is that it's a korean model so I can't get the Samsung weather app to detect most greek cities and I don't want to flash this phone to other software just for the weather app, I installed accuweather and it works just as good. I've been using the phone for almost 2 months now and I haven't found any issues, battery life seems to be pretty good considering the phones age. I can replace the battery myself when it's needed. My experience was very positive and I'm already thinking about buying a laptop or ipad from the website as well.

You deserve it millions subscribers. thanks for the info.

Last year, I got an iPhone 11 from back market in good condition. The phone came bent and refused for a few weeks to issue me a refund after sending the phone back multiple times. I ended up getting my money back but I won’t be buying from them again…

Hi I am trying to order an i phone 11 from back market and it keeps saying error once ive put my details in do u know why this could be?

I’d stick to apple refurbished because they can be bought with applecare+ which gives additional 2 years of warranty and discounted price for accidental damages. The apple refurbished devices are much reliable because they sell it like it’s brand new so less worries for consumers end.

very good in depth review sir! got yourself a subscriber

Okay, I wanna give some feedback (nothing bad as really enjoyed it) you have a really soothing voice, the editing is great, the detail on the video is great. So honestly great video, Ik this is really insignificant but you’ve earned my sub :)

Thx for this video cause I was thinking about purchasing from back market anyway but now ill just keep doing my research before purchasing Until I think it good

Please remember you have six years warranty in UK if you buy from a company. Five years in Scotland. If anything goes wrong with the phone as you haven't caused

The apple certified refurbished is basically brand new... They replace the entire housing, camera lens, battery, and screen. Components remain the same, however.

I have bought 4 (android) phones from Backmarket, all have been very good (and fast delivery) I had a fault with the screen on one, they repaired it within 3 days, it's been perfect ever since.

All of the iPhone models after the 11 pro have a horrible battery flaw Apple is yet to fix (of course 🙄) it’s so bad people want a recall of their 14’s.

The difference is that iphone use original parts to replace damaged While backmarket uses replacement parts. Not original

Well, the black market phone is really in fair condition for that price … while for Apple you got the feeling of a new one which is why you pay the extra extra Apple tax

Bought 2 different iPhone 11 Pro Max. Both had battery health issues. One was at 81 and the other was 79. Sent them both back the same day. Not a good experience with Back Market.

First time watching your channel, nice video :)

I bought an iPhone 13 Pro from back market and its in perfect condition like new and it has 100% battery health. It was like 200€ cheaper than Apple and the packaging looked exactly like the one you got from Apple refurbished. So Backmarket is way better from my experience

In terms of semi objective difference in value: £60 gets you a new battery, £30 for the better condition and £10 for a genuine cable. That makes the objective price difference £100 less. Then you have the peace of mind buying from Apple, the unboxing experience. Then you’re getting close to the Apple refurb only being 25% more.

The US model is also Esim only as far as I know. That explains the window too.

My only complaint with Apple Certified, is that they don’t have cheaper options for their phones, like they do for their iPads.

I want to buy an iPhone 12 mini from apple. I checked the apple website turns out the refurbished store is not available in India :/ other refurbished markets in India arent trustworthy, I have had friends who had really bad experiences from them and the excellent conditions had error messages, multiple replaced parts, malfunctioning parts and really had to go through a hard time to return it. I think there is no option for me to get a mini iphone here in India :(

You should have gone with the "excellent" version from Back Market. To get a better comparison IMO, good video thanks.

I bought a refurbished macbook air 2018 from apple in 2019. The condition was almost like new. I used it for 3 years and then sold it again for 250€ less. If refubished, then directly from apple, the devices are like new!

I thought the title read "blackmarket" i got a little too excited.

People read reviews on Back Market before paying out money. Something not right. Company based on France.

Actually in New iPhones the sim tool has been exactly like the apple certified iPhone since the 12

BackMarket refurbished are not actually referbished. They are just used. Apple refurbished are really refurbished.

nice vid keep it up ! Earned a sub man

Dude it took me almost the whole Video to see you only got a few thousand subs! You just earned another

Comparing apples to oranges. "This frickin orange tastes like an orange but i expected it to taste like apple"😂

Why does he sound like Mrwhostheboss💀

at first i thought the title of the video said ‘black market’ lmao

i thought the thumbnail said black market at first

I bought an iPhone Xs Max from back market 2 years ago and I’ve never had any problems with it

I'm fairly confident in saying a lot of the refurbs from apple are old stock

i order from back market all the time. its best to always go the extra mile and buy the excellent condition phone

Wasn't thinking of subscribing until that last part, when u said consider subscribing almost 5 times, 😅that was so funny

I got an ad from backmarket and a ad for apple before this

I’ve had AirPods Pro from back market for about a year now and I can’t tell if they’re just really worn out or fake at this point, they struggle to connect to my iPhone 14 pro every now and then and the microphone quality is terrible. I think they’ve just worn out over time as they were previously owned for god knows how long before I got them. At least they’ve lasted me a year I’m gonna buy whatever next gen AirPods come out brand new

First ti w I watched any of you’re reviews and any on black market ,I’ve just bought 1 new iPad 9th gens from a store in Morocco and another new ipad 9th gen from Amazon ,and I was asked to conSider blackmarket ,,I went with buying new as the Apple from the store has to have at least 1 if not two years limited guarantee in Europe ,and I felt buying second hand fr9m black ARKit didn’t give the feel of buying a new product direct from the factory ,,,great review will watch again for anything else I might buy well done

I had a back market ad before this video 😂

When i go on backmarket it says the 12 mini is 400+ euros ???? but you say its 280

immediately subscribed. direct, precise content

A video buying an excellent phone from Backmarket would have been a lot better and useful. After watching this video i didn’t learn a thing, i still don’t know the battery percentage of an excellent phone bought from Backmarket, i don’t know if it has battery, outer shell and screen changed (like the apple refurbished one), so it’s simply an unfair comparision. Too bad, the idea of this video was cool.

just to make this very clear to you, back market does not repair devices with their oem parts.

for some reason I read Black Market instead of Back Market

Thank you for the video and info mate. Was looking to buy a refurbished iphone 13 so this came up right on tkme!

you were just unlucky with this one, i ordered my 11 pro max from there and also in fair condition and it looked brand new no cracks dents not even a single scratch. One piece of advise for anyone always check who the actual seller is and check their reviews before buying

It was a good video, keep up the work mate

Backmarket sold you a used phone, with minimal checks done. Would be the same if you bought a excellent condition phone. I doubt they'll of checked every feature of the phone actually worked. Apple sold an actually refurbished phone, new casing, new battery etc. They will of done extensive testing to make sure everything on the phone worked correctly. As you said, there for different people. Apple is for people after something brand new, but cheaper. Backmarket is for people after something cheap, and don't mind if it looks used.

Got a back market mid roll ad

backmarket does not even apply a lithium battery warning sticker where as apple does. i am not sure if that is legal or maybe they figure if the device is used then chances are nill that the battery will start a fire since most battery fires happen with new batteries.

Insane buying “fair” model to save 20$

i got a iphone 12 256gb from Walmart for 330$ 100% battery some scratches but not that much and the battery got change last year Nov

Whizzard what's the deal ? Please Am looking to buy a phone on back market and am reading a section that says "70%less vs new " Please what does that mean?

if apple does not still sell the product on there website then do not buy it from there refurbished.

While I was watching, I was thinking. Are you going to use those phones? Or do some type of giveaway?