Wow, second biggest company can get a product right. Thats an upgrade over the first company in the ranking that makes their main product worse every year.

People like you will ensure Apple's longevity. It's 2024, nothing new here, just cameras and screens.

@@imanners1have you tried the Vision Pro?

@@TheGuym619 Hell no, only 80,000 morons were allowed to waste their money 🤑 This product is equivalent to Nigerian email scams, there's a fool born every day.🤣

@@imanners1lmao keep hating no other headset has pass through that feels just like real life or eye tracking accurate to the millisecond in real time. But yeah, just cameras and screens

Also, vscode recently added a feature where you can press a few buttons and get a URL to your local port.

Or option click on wifi on your toolbar to get ip (for mac)

Nmap works great when you can’t remember the above command

yeah I'm sure I can get it to work, just doesn't work "out of the box" probably just some small configuration needed

@@YourAverageTechBro Should just need your Mac’s hostname. See settings…forget exactly where. Can access from hostname.local anywhere on the network. I do it all the time to test on iPad or iPhone

Run “hostname” in your terminal (it’ll be the network name of your computer), then in the AVP Safari window visit “${hostname}.local:3000”

Bruh, you just hit the IP address of your Mac, lol. It works out of the box.@@YourAverageTechBro

literally just put your mac’s ip and then add your 3000 port. No config needed. Remix Nexjs and bunch of other frameworks usually always print both localhost address and an address thats available network wide when you run npm run dev.

You have great taste 🫡

glad you enjoyed it 🙂

Just keeping it real 🤷

Glad it was helpful!

yep, multiple macbook windows would be a hugeeeeeee unlock

damn bro didn't know all of my content sucked up until now 😂

Yeah, seems like the easy win would have been to allow virtual heads in the video card driver and then let the AVP user put up as many laptop screens as they wanted. Surprised it's not a day one feature really.

oooo i could see this being useful in a debugger like analyzing a stack trace potentially

We need to be able to “walk through software” like you would a dimensional model. This comment and reply could be the beginning of it…aka true spatial code development. Like the way you tour a plant or take apart the F1 car in the pro. 2D is dead.

*insert spiderman meme* we are twins hahaha

@@YourAverageTechBro 😂😂 Great minds think alike 🫡. Also Theo GG figured out how to get local host on a separate window . Not sure exactly what he did but checking out his review may help you with that 👍

Yeah I was super impressed with the mic audio + recording

hahaha if only I had a vision pro hen that video came out 😂

Bro I was thinking the same thing. As a joke obviously 😂

thanks for the tip! will def check that out

yep correct

@@YourAverageTechBro great thanks just had to make sure!

There is definitely a ton of potential here that just hasn’t been tapped into yet

Iwould buy one TODAY if this works quick and easy

unfortunately not too much experience with the quest 3

I've coded in the quest 3 with three laptop monitors in the app horizon workrooms and it's pretty great actually

@@JoyzaInnovations what is the real resolution of virtual monitors in this app or in the immerse using quest 3? I have the monitor 1440 vertically, will virtual windows be able to hold all such content/text and be readable? Or you will have to increase text size and by this ruin vertical capacity?

​@@darchansuleimen3591 There's not a simple answer unfortunately. The number of monitors you can drive at once from a single laptop without latency / stutter depends on your hardware and local WiFi (can also run over USB-C), but you can definitely send 1440p no problem, most likely 3x 1440p will be fine. Might run into issues if your monitor is super widescreen and thus pushing a lot more pixels. I mostly use Immersed, with a Quest 3. Depending on the app you're using, you may be able to adjust the level of compression to help strike the right balance. Using Immersed with a Mac, you can adjust from "1440p is 1440 pixels tall" and "1440p is 2880 tall (@2x)" (like you would see on a high DPI display). So first step is pushing all the data from the laptop to the headset. Next you have to remap / distort those virtual 2D screens into the 3D space, which causes some losses. Karl Guttag covers that in great detail, this is probably the best article to read if you don't want to read his whole series: kguttag.com/2023/08/05/apple-vision-pro-part-5a-why-monitor-replacement-is-ridiculous/ (note that he wrote these pre-release, so there's a lot of speculation / extrapolation, don't worry too much about the specifics). And finally, you only have so many headset display pixels to work with, and only the central area has a high enough PPD to sort of compete with a standard monitor. Old, but you can see some visuals of the falloff here: doc-ok.org/?tag=lens-distortion (newer headsets won't look exactly like that, but the basic shape still holds -- in order to get wide FOV and good central PPD, you have to distort the edges considerably) More here: www.reddit.com/r/virtualreality/comments/18sfi3i/ppdfocused_table_of_various_headmounted_displays/ All that being said, I find small text pretty readable using a Quest 3, if your virtual screen is a pretty good size, imagine a 40" monitor 3 ft away maybe? I'll have to take a careful look next time and do some rough calculations and see if that's about right. I'm sure I'd be happier with an AVP, but I haven't had a chance to see one yet.

interesting, need to look into this

Can only add one virtual monitor from your laptop but can open multiple Vision Pro safari windows

I don’t think so unless there’s a way to stop the screen from going blank

@@Llamu It would be great if someone who has a visionpro and also a mac with an external display could try it. The Apple docs say that virtual mac mode replaces the main display, but makes no mention of secondary display(s). If there is a large secondary display, it should be possible to make productive use of it alongside the virtual display.

@@gshenaut I’ve seen footage of someone with multiple displays with a Vision Pro, and he uses the virtual Mac display and every screen goes black

@@Llamu Ah. Well, that's disappointing. I guess it means that at least for some Mac-heavy applications, you'll lose significant screen real estate by entering virtual Mac mode.

I didn't have any issue with text clarity - very clear and easy to read

@@YourAverageTechBro thats great to hear, I hope they don’t compromise on it, hearing maybe an apple vision “air” for $1000 in 2025, wonder what the limit will be there, latency, fewer screens…

can't say since I don't have apple music, but my guess is it is spatial? since it seems like everything is spatial from when I used it

You can try it out from your iphone to mac - there's some delay there as well. sometimes it works very quickly and other times it's a bit slower

@@YourAverageTechBro I don't have an iPhone or mac lol.

@@aspuzling oh haha yeah I mean most of the time it’ll work in 1-2seconds but every now and then it can hang for up to 5-10 sec depending on internet connection + how big of copied content is

maybe somewhere in the settings - I didn't look too deep yet

Yep I figured that out later haha. Would be a 10/10 ideal experience if I could still create multiple monitors from my laptop though

You can stretch it out horizontally to a certain extent but don't know what the max number of inches is. It's pretty big tho lol

Nope, not available

@lgktube You can turn off Spatial Audio in the control center for the Vision Pro.

Yeah I'm feeling kinda similarly. Only thing holding me back from returning it is wanting to develop some apps for it but even then xcode has a simulator that lets you build/test apps w/o the vision pro so....maybe more of a collectible item? i'm delusional lol

@@YourAverageTechBro If it makes you happy and you can afford it, that's all that matters.

It’s 3391 by 3391 per eye, I’ve seen people in videos who just can’t stop going on about how clear the text is so I’d say yes, you can clearly see the code. The reason it looks not so good in the video is probably because visionOS isn’t exactly easy to run so they probably had to lower to recording resolution. Also, the foveated rendering, while impossible to see inside the headset is very visible in videos

ah you're right that's the key unlock to productivity that i'm missing out on

​@YourAverageTechBro it helps if you get sick of staring at the same 4 walls every day

He's working on AI not crypto

@@YourAverageTechBro I mean in some way it could. Environment creates mood, mood affects productivity

@@YourAverageTechBroI for one am looking forward to hitting “mute” on my surroundings in order to better focus on my work. I know I’m more creative with less distraction and noise pollution.

yeah I am not an expert so I have no idea either. Maybe there's more active computation going on w/ all the cameras compared to the laptop just chilling there?

@@YourAverageTechBro I mean, it could be, but they have a dedicated hardware for spacial computing (the R1 chip) that should handle this extra load, so it seems weird. It could be an architectural change, making MacOS native apps not compatible with AVP, but it would be weird to design it this way. It feels more like a decision to avoid it replacing another product on their product line by limiting it's capabilities.

Probably because they want to force you to still buy a mac

damn right I do

Would cost $200