I remember something about that

Gold and Bone, I think you’re talking about

i love bones

Hey I know what your talking about. And all of this is very similar I agree

bones

Iiiiiiii got this feelin yeah you know

Where I am losing all control

Cause there’s magic in my bones!

Ha love it!

"hmmmm, ahhh.. I can smell your bones from here" has a whole new meaning now (thanks Markiplier)

That is an inspiring idea! Love it.

Oooh! And for tree magic, roots actually seek out bones and will consume entire skeletons if given the chance

@@roberthanson5840 it would be nice to see a yin and yang type of situation where despite being on opposite end of spectrum they are still in same plane i.e, same spectrum.

Conversely, trees experience a form of death through the winter, shedding their leaves in autumn and only experiencing rebirth in the spring. There could absolutely be a form of tree magic that focuses on this "death", rather than the "life" that reappears in spring.

Gods, that's such a fitting theme. Just as how in real life the increased understanding of biology has changed how we see health and disease and signs of them.

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I hear the PM fans coming already.

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Nothing there, guys. Just a random comment

Many parts of Asia huh? Can you make a list of the peoples and locations associated with each bone usage? How many practices are similar? Unique? Are there more instances of bone collection found outside of Asia?

​@@BigToody Most certainly. The following is a general overview of one example of bone magic relative to their geographical location: 1. Warriors of the Igorot people in the Philippines have "Agimat", charms made of metal, plant materials and bones carefully selected from different animals believed to grant a range of qualities to enhance or protect the owner during conflicts. Activation of the Agimat powers often include calling out the name of spirit residing in the charm. 2. The Dayak Bidayuh people in Borneo island in Indonesia use a lot of magic bones in their traditional attires and weapons. These animal and human bones bestow different abilities like being able to move unseen, move extremely fast, jump abnormally high, etc. 3. Among the Shugendo practitioners in Japan, some of their rituals involve collecting bones during their pilgrimage in the mountains. These bones are often used as intermediary to channel powers between the mountain gods, animal spirits and the practitioners when they need to foretell the future or heal ailments. 4. The Bomoh are traditional esoteric practitioners of Malaysia. While most conservative Bomoh nowadays veer towards healing and protection with heavy use of Islamic recitations, the more tribal ones still use bones from animals to cast curses that cause sickness and misfortune towards the target. Rituals to awaken powers of the bones including fasting during auspicious days, asking malevolent spirits to take residence inside the bones and recitation of certain spells for hundreds of times to charge the bones. 5. The Saisyiyat people of Northern Taiwan hold great reference to objects known as Alima and Kudum, which refer to ancestral heirlooms. They consist of various things from metals, to wood and a lot of bones. These objects are heavily venerated as they hold significant influence over the fortune of a person, family or even clans. Alima and Kudum need to be "fed" with rice wine, blood, milk or other substances based on what the resident power/spirits like. Their function range from healing and protection, to physical prowess and spiritual transformation. These are some of what I've personally come across. Most of the practices carries a lot similarities between them, but I personally found the Japanese Shugendo and the East Timorese to be very unique, as in nobody else do it they way they do. I've heard of that traditional magical customs in Africa involve heavy use of bones as well, but I am yet to witness it in person.

@user-bc9cr7gj5z Wow, what a wealth of knowledge you've just shared. So grateful to have access to all this information to further expand my research -- sometime later this year I'm sure it'll all play into Bone Magic Part 2. I've done some research into cultural /spiritual uses of bone (but not as much as you). I live in Borneo at the moment -- some Dayak tribes here used to headhunt to collect skulls. They believed the practice forced the soul of the dead to protect their homes. SO MUCH great world-building potential out in the ACTUAL world.

@@hadrianpollardI kind of like stuff that involve the “raw” elements of the human condition, like using blood as fuel for magic, as an example. Or for rituals, too. Like anything that’s a sort of “take and give” system. Genuine question, are there things like people using bones for weapons, like using their bones as weapons, or even making their body ten times faster by making their bones more brittle, as an example.

@@hadrianpollard Exactly. You can really take concepts from all scientific or even math-related fields and include them in the world building process. (Like taking cell theory or even string theory and coming up with something from that. What I did was I made string theory a magic system where Resonators can manipulate the very fabric of reality)

That's exactly right! It can turn into a pretty thrilling cat-and-mouse kind of fight -- plus those dynamics shift based on the seasons and the types of trees/bones available.

Magic Madness and Sadness.

Thank you!

Ouch

Plant-based medieval mecha?? That's insane and brilliant. I'll be checking that out.

Cheers!

I had forgotten about that! Some old school Naruto.

Death

Fossilized dinosaur bones are stone, so probably nothing.

​@@__T.O.G.yeah and bones out of the body are literally death so ....

fossils are just stone

Yeah, it's gotta be the fresh stuff made of bone cells. Cool idea though!

Wow, I had never seen a bagh nakh before, that's an awesome weapon that TOTALLY fits with boneling powers/culture. I appreciate the share! Also, great point about the muscle mass. Though I imagine the best bet is to avoid close range as much as possible.

Much appreciated!

Thank you very much! And same to you, very excited about more Gold and Bone :)

^^ That is a very cool idea, is it for a book? A game? As of now, there is an inclination toward hunting in bonelings and toward gathering in the treelings. Bonelings have creature companions called bone-pickers that help clean the bones, but I love this idea of physiological changes that would help them prep bones for magic. And to become more animalistic or plant like the deeper you go in bone/tree magic... that's awesome. Puts a new meaning to the phrase "you are what you eat" huh? Thanks for sharing!

@@hadrianpollard it’s gonna be an anime, i appreciate your feedback and know that i’ll be watching

That is incredible skeleton, wow. Will have to show up somewhere in the series.

Hadn't even thought of it until the comments! Man, Naruto has a magic system for everything.

@@hadrianpollard always bet on ninja magic

Intense! I love magic systems with a serious cost. Reminds me of Wheel of Time, but instead of losing your mind you lose your body. I wonder if making the cost more permanent could add more drama and potency to the use of the magic? In other words, you're not casting willy-nilly cause pretty soon you'll be disintegrating into nothing.

It'll be in there!

​@@hadrianpollard would be interesting if u could make something especial out of teeth, since they are not exactly considered bones

Appreciate it!

My fursona embedded his consciousness into the quantum field giving him science based powers. On a scale of 1 to 10 (street level to planet level) how powerful would your necromancy and ostiomancy be?

@Krane5328 Crypt's Necromancy is highly advanced. He can ressurect an entire warzone just by standing in it. If he wills it, they rise. The only issue is that when he raises someone, there's an RNG effect that comes into play. The person or people he ressurects may come back as themselves, or come back as a mindless thrall, whose only purpose is to take orders. However, there's also a chance that they may even ascend beyond what they were in life. They may become a shade, a wraith, a wendigo, a death knight, or even a lichking. I could list more, but over the years, he's accrued and invented vast amounts of different undead to suit all sorts of needs and purposes. He doesn't get to decide what happens during ressurection, and thus, he assigns his units carefully based on their power and skill set. Also, if the task is difficult enough, he won't even waste units. He'd just handle it himself to preserve his armies. After all, what's a necromancer without his legion? As far as his Ostiomancy goes, he can shape, malform, reform, bend, twist, stretch, contort, shatter, extend, mend, and compress bone in various matters, shapes, and sizes. Pretty much, if he can imagine a shape, he can form bone into said shape. With a flick of his wrist, he can turn a person's body into a reverse iron maiden, as their rib cage impales themselves from the inside out. He can thicken and harden your skeletal system to become more carapace like in nature to withstand higher forms of damage. He can repair broken or even shattered bones from mere fragments at the cost of the repaired bone becoming more fragile (unless he has more bone material to apply) mere breaks or fractures are easily repaired without much consequence. He can mend his own skeletal system quite easily, reshape it to fit his own needs, and can even focus ostiomancy entirely on himself to allow him to levitate and fly. He can grant others with this ability so long as he maintains focus on these individuals. HOWEVER, if you were expecting him to be able to fight against beings who manipulate space and time, no, he's not up to that level. Don't get me wrong, he's goku levels of strong, he's naruto levels of fast, but he's not fast enough, nor is he strong enough. He just can't stack up to that yet. He does have deep magic, though. A magical substance that, when one comes into physical contact, becomes heavy and dense. The longer one is exposed to it, the heavier and more dense they become. This status effect is known as "affliction." He can project this magic in many forms. He can coat items in it, he can wield it as a weapon, lash out with it as a force wave, project it in various AOE like formations, condense and compact things, bend and reshape objects with it, can use it as a shield to effectively block incoming projectiles, reshape them into shards of deep magic, and send them back, and later on in his story can even use deep magic to open portals within his own plane of exsistance. The biggest issue with deep magic for him is that there's only ever a limited amount of it. Once it's gone, it's gone. He has a process he goes through called "consumption" that allows him to break items or areas down to make more deep magic, but he needs vast amounts of surface area in order to recoup what was lost. And once something is broken down and consumed into deep magic, it's gone forever. His deep magic also dissipates when it comes in contact with the sun. This is also relative to his own fatal weakness to the sun. Exposure to the sun will dissipate his deep magic immediately. The sun may also char his bones if he's not careful. He makes avoiding the sun his top priority at all times, and is one of many reasons why he will never stack up against beings who manipulate space and time.

@@Krane5328 sorry for the essay. Short answer, I'd put Crypt at a 7, possibly an 8.

@@CryptTheNecromancer Don't worry I find your essay engaging and intersting. Krane's consciousness and free will is tied to the quantum realm and it's general randomness. He can utilize his will to manipulate the randomness of quantum mechanics to use it a "magic". Krane can easily be in multiple places at once, he can become incorporeal, teleport, have a 6th sense, connect objects, and manipulate matter. He can do all sorts of insane stuff by manifesting the weirdness of quantum physics on a large scale. But if it was just this Krane would be a literal science-based god. His mind is connected to the quantum realm but it still has not transcended the computational power of his brain. No matter how much math Krane knows he has to be able to visualize things and understand them intuitively to actually properly use his powers, so no higher dimensional powers and/or complete mastery over a certain radius. Krane also can only manipulate a certain amount of particles at a time, he can't simultaneously control every particle in the viscinity otherwise his quantum soul would breakdown depriving Krane of free will in which case Krane will immediately commit suicide due to an implanted suicidal urge that Krane made that can only be denied through the power of free will. Krane can only manipulate a hilariously tiny amount of particles at a time but he can do so infinitely and very fast. allowing him to alter his physical state near instantly. He can only manipulate enough mass to create an infinitely sustained explosion of a grenade. His true power comes from knowledge of very advanced technology using his ability to manipulate virtual particles to create any blueprint that Krane can think of from vehicles to nuclear bombs. But he needs to think to make it so the more complex the tech the longer it takes to make, a nuke is hard to make because the precise structure of refined plutonium or uranium has to be made with full comprehension. So generally Krane's preferred method of attack is simple tech, shooting lasers or creating antimatter to go boom. Now this is most certainly overpowered but it comes at the cost of thinking really hard and if you think too hard you will lose free will and quantum powers. Now his final trump card like Crypt's deep magic is creating a false vacuum collapse, a suicide move that guarantees the uncertain fate of anything within to whatever the true vacuum is which is most likely death literally destroying everything in a bubble expanding at lightspeed. He basically has no weaknesses in terms of abilities, his weakness is any level of space-time manipulation which can instantly KO him due with either expansion or contraction of the space he's in, basicllaly Krane has to prepare a lot to go to other planets otherwise the change in gravity would disrupt his quantum soul which is linked to free will. And just for comparisons sake let's say that Deep magic can harm Krane's quantum soul directly as well. Now keep in mind Krane's powers are his quantum soul which is tied to his mind, willpower, and free will and anything that affects the quantum soul which are basically just primordial forces like the cosmos or more primordial magic can harm the fragile quantum soul. So Krane is very paranoid about magic and more advanced tech because they literally pose an existential threat to him not a life or death threat Krane's powers and tech are just fine with that but the fact that oops we got 1.25 g's now or I'm gonna use this super-limited magic can literally threaten his free will plenty justifies Krane's OPness. 9.5/10, unlimited use powers, advanced tech, superweapons. Only balanced out by paranoia and fragility of quantum soul.

We've cannibalized materials from our house when we were remodeling it, haha. Glad to connect to another bone magic creator!

What serendipity! Glad you're getting out there, running, and paingazing your way through it!

Thank you! Cheers!

Thank you! I look forward to sharing with you, saúde!

Such a thoughtful idea -- it's definitely both. There are clans/individuals who respect life dearly and others who become obsessed with the acquisition of power. The book is definitely about the dualities of peace/conflict, compassion/violence, etc.

Great question! There are many bones NOT found in the human body that will come into play eventually -- exoskeletons, wings, claws, tails for example

@@hadrianpollard ...and the Baculum Oh and If one bone can be used to grow animals/insects beyond their normal size, that would include the Bones?

I'm excited to do more research into culture

Very good!

Good luck with your system!

Video game adaptation later?

Cheers!

Oh boy, I'm bracing myself

YES! I never made that connection before. Hopefully Brandon Sanderson doesn't think I ripped it from him. The impaling with nails is such an incredible, creepy visual.

Exoskeletons will definitely have their own magic

Adding to my research notes now

Great question! As of now, I have similar bones grouped together (tarsals all together, teeth all together, phalanges, etc.) but I'm trying to design them so that there can be subtle differences between each that get fleshed out over time. Tooth/fang magic is pretty important to the first story and is a way to capture dark spirits called shadowleaks

Good luck, my friend! Sounds like an intense science-based system . Vestigial structures might not have useful functions in the body, but still have magic.

Cool idea! Gotta love a good equivalent exchange FMA style

That's a freaking wild idea. Your bones changing into animal bones... might have to find an application for that. Thanks for the share!

Awesome thoughts. I do have a plan for exoskeleton magic -- thankfully creatures in my world (Aerila) are not normal Earth sized, so I'm giving myself liberty to make the harvesting of all these bones as aesthetically interesting to me as I'd like. How they view animals with no bones is another interesting question. Are they irrelevant? Less spiritually important? Revered? I think it might depend on the tribe/clan. What are your thoughts?

So many cool magic systems in Naruto

Definitely many big buff dudes

Very interesting... love the idea of grafted or replaced teeth and other bones for that manner. Thanks for sharing your ideas!

There MAY or MAY NOT be a reincarnation bone magic among all the 206 + bones. RAFO :)

Thank you!

This was what i was looking for

What a cool idea! Bacteria-based magic... you should make a video!

You want to use my version of bone magic in a story? Go for it