Thank God you posted this video. I was about to buy a gt3rs tomorrow, but after seeing this im gonna stay with my opel corsa

I understand from dealer perspective, but when you spend 2+ million a year and still cant buy the car you want sounds like a absolute scam.

I walked into a Porsche dealer in California looking to order just 911S. Salesman didn't even get up from behind the desk and started a conversation with "you know there is a markup." I left without a word. I can afford to buy a new 911, but I will never pay markup on anything.

Thank you for finally shedding some light onto this scumbag industry. I waited 9 years, worked hard, saved my money, invested wisely, just to buy a gt3 rs. Walked into the dealership and got laughed out the door by scumbags like this.

I had the SAME THING when i went to buy a Ford Fiesta! I had to buy 2 Coffees before he sold me the car!!Shocking.🤣

It actually took me almost two thirds of the way through this video to realise that you made this whole video just to show Jayne to convince her that paying over list was the best thing to do. Well played Mark, well played sir...

I honestly had no idea that you can't walk into a dealership and buy the car of your choice

This is why I love BMW, they make insane performance vehicles and you can walk right on in and spec out whatever you want, pay for it and pick it up in a few months. My M8 comp has been nothing but bliss.

I worked at a US Porsche dealer when the first 996 turbo dropped in 2000. Porsche reps came into the office and demanded to see the Purchase and Sale Agreement. They would’ve pulled the franchise if it was sold over list, or we refused to show the paperwork. The times they are a changing….

Marks now banned from buying a car from every porsche dealer in the uk 😂😂😂

I love this series and it’s been a real eye opener. Keep it coming and well done Mark

This is a brilliant series btw, we all know it happens. Glad someone is filming it.

I love cars my whole life. I hate the industry and 99% of the people in it. Thank you Mark.

Turns out car dealerships aren't only cheesing the average Joe but also the rich lol

This culture with luxury car brands is the reason why I will keep my 86, STI, GR Corollas even if money wasn't a problem (I manage IT for multiple dealerships, Ive driven them all). Fun to drive? Yes. Repair and upgrade myself? Yes. Easily replaced? Yes. Imagine being rich enough to buy 10 Porsches and still being treated like trash by the business that you keep afloat by being a customer.

Really brilliant, well-produced video. Congratulations guys.

The Swiss luxury watch brands - especially Rolex - have done this for years…it’s eerily similar. Thanks Mark for your journalism!

Moral of the story; dealerships are trash and we would all be better off without them. I’ve known this for years being a car enthusiast.

A few years ago I went to a Porsche dealership to configure a Targa. The salesman didn't seem at all interested in making a sale and couldn't even be bothered to find out when a slot would be available. I left and didn't come back. Watching videos like this really makes me re-evaluate my attitude towards this brand. Essentially appreciate the engineering and stay well clear of corporate which to me means 2nd hand market only. But I appreciate the pickle people wanting and being able to afford a GT3 find themselves in. It's not good for the brand image if they have to shove cars down people's throats while dangling a carrot in front of their eyes.

Customers shouldn't have to grovel and beg by paying over MSPR. Consumers have power to vote with their dollars and we can put an end to these practices. Thanks for the video!

man, this video is the physical meaning of "rich people problems".

Watching this video makes me hurt inside. Thanks for posting it. There is a lot of insight into the tactics that these dealerships employ to scam buyers.

Here in the USA, our local Porsche dealer for Washington state. They put a mark up of around 100 grand or more for any GT car, the GT4 and GT3. And the mark up for a GT2 was over 200,000 dollars over MSRP. Sickening. A GT4 I was looking at had a 120,000 dollar mark up. Talk about crazy

I go back to basics against these tactics. If a brand does not want to sell me their product at MSRP; they can keep it! If i have to jump through hoops; they can keep it! If i have no freedom to do whatever i want with my property once bought; they can keep it! There is enough cool cars in the world, old AND new, for me to find a way to enjoy myself! Stop the FOMO! To those who do not agree. You do you guys, just be happy with your choices. ^__-

Matt Watson is the perfect example of ‘not what you know, who you know’. He got one without all the rigmarole

Now, I feel really good that I no longer fancy super cars anymore. It’s too much work to make the car enjoyable. Thank you for the video!

7:20 she is a fantastic sales person and lays out the key points of buying the trade in over building a portfolio in a way that attracts closing the deal so fast. I would have said "Okay you got me" right there.

Met a bloke who got told he needed to buy 5 Cayennes and 5 Macans he could get one of these. Basically the deal was he would buy 10 cars in December, they would buy the cars back for 10% less in January, then he would be able to buy the car he actually wanted. He went through with the deal and sold the car immediately, still making 100k profit despite taking a bath on the SUVs

Finally the truth of the matter. Other UKpostsrs fail to acknowledge. They like to pretend they were selected for the cars they lease to prop up their vulnerable egos and appear to make themselves important and special, as if they have a relationship with the manufacturer. Whereby they are in truth just idiots who are so desperate to own the vehicle before anyone else for the pure purpose of boasting in a video 'look what I have because I'm connected'. This is where you stand tall and proud amongst your peers Mark! You don't care what anyone thinks, nor need to portray yourself as special. You tell the truth and expose it for what it is. I for one truly appreciate your honesty and integrity. GREAT VIDEO!

Bro the car dealer had me cracking up 💀😂😂😂😂😂

I bet Jay Leno would have no problem at all buying whatever car he wanted. LOL!

I’m enjoying watching my local Porsche dealers inventory fill up on the lot.😂

Friend of mine bought over 30, yes 30, Ferraris over the last 25 or so years. . He bought the car according to their specs, never drove them, brought them back (got MSRP for them), they sold them as "Pre Owned" and took another guys head off price wise. This went on and on. He always wanted one of their HALO cars but never got one. He finally bought three new ones and sold them himself at a $ 400,000 profit. The dealership was freaking out but he told them to go screw themselves.

Was literally only thinking to myself earlier today, imagining myself purchasing a GT3-RS and get suggested this video now. One day 🙏🏼

Amazing, well done Mark.

Hey Mark, I just watched your video and couldn't agree more, especially given my recent experience here in the US. I'm an expat residing in San Francisco and have a story that echoes your points, but perhaps even more frustrating. During the Covid pandemic, I set out to purchase a Porsche GT3. Despite my efforts, I couldn't secure it from a Porsche dealership, so I ended up buying it from a local non-Porsche dealer. Keen to establish a relationship with the official service department, I visited the Porsche dealer, letting them know about my GT3 acquisition and expressing interest in a GT3 RS. The response was a bit disheartening, as the representative hinted at the difficulty due to my lack of a "Porsche history" with their dealership. I explained that this GT3 was my seventh 911, though my previous purchases were in the UK. Their insistence on a history with their specific dealership felt somewhat narrow-minded, but I understood their perspective. In a bid to strengthen this nascent relationship, I even purchased a Taycan from them - a fantastic car, by the way. Confident that this might put me in good stead, I asked to be put on the waiting list for the GT3 RS. I had low expectations but was willing to be patient. However, what came next was truly shocking. The representative mentioned that as a new customer, if I were lucky enough to get an allocation for a new car, I'd be required to pay an outrageous premium of $150,000 over the list price. This revelation was astounding and deeply disappointing. The notion of an authorized dealer demanding such a significant markup on a new vehicle was beyond belief. Needless to say, I was livid and expressed my displeasure quite vocally to both the representative and the dealership. Mark, your video didn't touch on this, but another crucial point to consider is the reason behind the limited supply of high-performance models like the GT3 RS. It's not just what Carl mentioned. A significant factor is the stringent emissions targets that manufacturers like Porsche must adhere to. These high-performance models are produced in limited numbers to maintain a balance with their overall vehicle emissions as a manufacturer. This experience and understanding the broader context of car manufacturing has left me deeply disillusioned. It's not just about the scarcity of these models; it's also about the tactics employed by dealerships. Porsche, as a brand, risks being tarnished by such practices. Their dealerships’ approach, especially in demanding unwarranted premiums, not only damages customer relationships but also undermines the brand's integrity. I'm sharing this in hopes that it brings more awareness to these issues and perhaps encourages a change in how these prestigious vehicles are distributed and sold. Thanks for shedding light on this topic, Mark. It's crucial for potential buyers to be aware of these challenges and for manufacturers to recognize the impact of dealership practices on their reputation.

My uncle would say"a fool and his money are soon parted"

Isn't this just commodity trading, The commodity being the VW beetle look alike. Mad world

Thank you for exposing them.

13:28 they know their customers have more money than sense 😂

Sounds like car dealerships are taking a page out of the watch industries book. I remember when you could just walk into a dealership and order a 997 GT3 with out any issues.

Glad you got it! Now it’s time to take it on the track. If it stays only on the street it is a disservice

I know that first dealership,If it’s the same one it’s in Tewkesbury not far from me . I went there to buy a Porsche Cayman , very arrogant dealership , I was a cash buyer ,so straight forward to deal with ,their attitude was awful ,was waiting around for ages ,went elsewhere . Great video mark.

Great job Mark!!!! My good friend just took delivery of his Porche 911 Targa this past weekend. $179K. This is his 3rd Porche in a row with the same Chicago dealership. He left me a voicemail that his delivery experience with the new GM was terrible, and he is reaching out to the State Attorneys General office today on this. I can't wait to hear the juicy story. Will keep you posted. 👍

I worked for Ferrari. The position in the order "List" means nothing and comes down to which individual established customer the Head of Business or General Sales Manager prioritises at the time of a production slot becoming available. The clients deemed to be the "big hitters" are talking to those guys, not a salesperson. And those preferred customers could be very very appreciative. Allegedly.

I would've laughed my way out of those all those dealers. No matter how much i would want that car, I'm not playing those hilariously stupid games.

When he said “you know what? You gotta sell to us back at list price” I fucking lost it 😂😂😂😂

This is beyond ridiculous, its great theres exposure to this corruption and unfairness to the customers. How can this be stopped moving forward??

Mark your content is top class mate. Love your transparency and honesty

I talked with a Porsche dealer 3 days ago. There is a new car on their lot and a 4 month old CPO car. He would not sell me the new car, but he offered me the CPO. Reason? Because they want to sell the new car to someone they have a relationship with. Oh, and the CPO car is marked up almost $10k over it's original sticker - and higher priced than the new car - but is lower spec than the new one. I told them I'd shop elsewhere.

See you next Tuesday. Lol, love that.

Luck for me, I won’t ever have this problem. 😂

These Porsche dealers should be introduced to criminal prosecution for fraud

This is a huge problem and needs to be resolved. The common man will eventually become so tired of not being able to buy a gt3rs that no worker will continue their job and the economy will come to a standstill.

The list does in fact exist, but as the bloke in the end says, it's invitation only. I used to work at a car shop where they did interior restoration for high end classic cars, I've seen all sorts of cars in this shop, some cars were so rare they were worth millions, the boss has a bunch of wealthy repeat customers, one of them was a CEO for a major bank and I overheard a conversation where the CEO said they would usually get a call whenever these new supercar became available in the country and asked if they're interested in buying them. Now I have no idea if they had to have bought a certain amount of cars before hand or if they just had a personal relationship with these car manufacturers and/or dealers.

I hope corporate sees your videos. I love how you’re exposing them. They’re ridiculous! Here in the United States even after you buy so many cars from Porsche you still have to pay a $75,000 markup at least, to be able to buy GT3 RS brand new.

That lady that called you back and told the cheaper way of buying that car is smart

The reason their showrooms have such big windows? So they can see you coming. Seriously, great video Mark, that's unbelievable.

this is why you buy something that: 1) you ACTUALLY want 2) isnt in the most bought vehicles on the market 3) is no more than what its worth and having good credit definitely gives you some leverage because they know youll pay it off

Thanks for a real expose instead of clickbait.

I wont even bother stepping foot in a Porsche Dealership then. If I want something nice like that, I'll just find exactly what I want and buy it off of someone. Saves me from buying all kinds of vehicles and I just jump to the car that I want. Good video!

In an age of unintended ambiguity, this was a remarkably clear take on 'klout' chasing at the highest levels. Great presentation, story-line, and positivity in the face of staggering stupidity. Subscribed.

this is what Salomondrin talked years ago, btw great video!

Thanks for exposing a place I'd never be able to afford going to.

Great video Mark. I tried a heap of Porsche dealers to get a Cayman GT4RS at list but had no joy. I have also tried to get a GT3 at list but again a massive waste of time, I was constantly directed to the used GT3's on the forecourt at ridiculous overs. Despite being cracking cars, this experience has massively put me off Porsche. These dirty tactics have driven me a way from the brand even though the forecourts are filling up and the prices are coming down. Keep up the good work Mark. It passes my down time here on an oil rig offshore Africa.

Porsche was always one of my favorite brands for building ultimate driving machine but this sales scam really makes me rethink about this brand.

My daily reminder why i hate Porsche and car dealerships as a whole

How did Mat Watson get an allocation???? He hasn’t bought any other new Porsches… it’s all a fix

7:09 yeah man ! Should have asked WHY DO I NEED TO BUY OTHER CARS TO BUY THE CAR I WANT 😂

Ex Porsche sales person here. 992 GT3RS as well as other special models are low supply for a reason. The reality is a majority of dealers already have their VIP clients set up and don’t want to worry about taking outsiders that don’t want to play the game. If everyone had them it wouldn’t be special. Not saying it’s right but it all comes down to money and customer loyalty. Dealers want to guarantee the money stays within their wheelhouse. I had many “VIP clients” over the years and couldn’t get them allocations. Not only do you have to have the right buyer but also the right person within the dealership to make something happen.

Thank you am new subscriber , Porsche has been my favourite brand I’ve had three , I’m considering buying one this year after not owning one for 15 years. Thanks enjoyed your videos

Sounds like Rolex to me 🤣

The brand was built by sports car enthusiasts who worked hard and were successful enough to walk into a Porsche dealership and buy a new 911. Now it seems Porsche is disregarding that heritage to pursue the almighty dollar, boxing out its core customer base to deal only with obscenely rich men who just crave the status of owning something that no one else has. Good luck with that in the long term, Porsche.

as i sit at the red-light in my corolla every day, i will pray for the end to the suffering of these super-car enthusiasts that they may purchase yet another supercar in the near future.

Luxury brands like Hermes do this too. To be allowed to buy a Birkin bag you need to spend loads on "lesser" bags and accessories. And you won't get to choose color or material either. It's far easier and more economical to buy used but... you know... it's not the same, so people still run on the hamster wheel.

Love these 'exposing the industry' videos Mark. Your taking your channel to another level, similar to 'Jayemm', exposing everything too. Fab insight. 🤗 💯👍

Corruption at its finest. A great nod to the dealerships at the end there Mark 😂

In my country you do your configuration online, wait for a call for an appointment, then walk into the Porsche dealership, make your down-payment/full payment (at list price as per your configuration) and wait for your car to arrive...US and UK car dealerships are a SCAM! 🤣

There’s some nuance to this, but I can understand the manufacturers side. Considering the manufactured “limited” quantity of the GT3 RS, it makes sense to offer them to longtime customers first, although it’s not guaranteed, instead of the a new customer with no brand loyalty. Probably decreases instances of resale and gets the specialty product in the hands of people who deserve/earned it? My short response on the primary issue of needing to be on “the list”. Would love to hear what others think!

The quality of your content is truly professional. From concept, to writing, to filming and final product. Amazing job.

Can we please be proud of your self for getting him to 200k

In Belgium, my Porsche history is very recent, just bought a new Macan GTS 8 months ago. When I was at the dealership a few weeks ago i was looking at a gt4 rs, and asked if it was still possible to order one. The owner of the dealership told me no, but proposed me a 718 Spyder rs allocation. Out of a 30 sec discussion.. and all the new cars are sold at list price, which seems to be the only way to do it… When I collected my Macan, the first GT3 RS were in the showroom waiting for collection. I’m pretty sure I could have ordered one if I wanted to…

Mark, I'm so sorry that you had that Experience with the first Dealer. I could definitely acquire a GT3 RS for you, without buying loads of previous models that you really don't want. Looking forward to your feedback sir!

If I'd done absolutely everything and spent millions at a loss and still not got 1 I think I'd just sell them all and never buy a porka again. Great video mark.

Thank you Mark for showcasing this side of the dealerships that isn't widely spoken about on social media. It's disgusting to me, that such reputed brands are being so petty and hypocritical to make that extra cash at the expense of their valuable customers.

They are having a monopoly. From my understanding, monopolies are illegal!

This is how they keep their heritage, history and prestige up..I did not knew how many people can actually afford one, but I would go for something a bit simplier and in your case would made a video too. Like E60 M5 estate what is so rare now is. Just find eqvivalent not out of supercars, but tad below - or they the same? Or RS6 Plus or something as example

"You can do what ever you want cause it's yours" .... Except if you own a Ferrari lol

Huge balls for making this video, absolutely amazing. Ps, you’re probably never going to get a GT3 RS after this 😂

The system is now flawed. It is working exactly how Porsche intended.

Approved pre-owned GT3 RSs would be the best bet. Finding a config that you kinda like and going with it. Yes, you're going to pay a MASSIVE premium above what the car would cost at MSRP but at the end of the day you're going to spend less money than you would buying a shit ton of cars to build a rep with your dealership to MAYBE be able to order your own config. From my understanding a lot of dealers have in stock cars (new) that you can buy as well but they might reserve those as well.

The reason that these dealers can continue to do so is because Porsche, the brand you love, doesn't really care about you, the customers. It is that simple.

Fascinating summary, thank you. I understand that some golden customers are allocated cars on the basis that they sell back to dealer after some period, losing no money, hence laundering the car for dealer profit, whilst the favoured customer enjoys new cars without depreciation. What a system!

This is very entertaining and well made content. Thanks you. Although I just look at it and think if anyone is mad enough to covet these things and throw daft money around you enter the world of morally dodgy and shallow things / people/ businesses.

Big fan Mark of your videos - Inspartion you are 💥

This almost sounds like what the U. S Ford, Chevy, Dodge was doing with Pick up trucks a couple years ago. Lies Lies Lies, they where selling $50,000 trucks for $110,000. You ordered a vehicle, left a deposit, then the dealer sales the truck right from under you to the next customer who was willing to pay $30-$50,000 over. Dirty Game!!!

Scarcity is a powerful dynamic. Many high end watch brands are doing the same thing. MSRP doesn’t mean anything. An item is worth what people are willing to spend on it regardless of what its MSRP is. If a Porsche is going for $350k on the secondary market-it’s a $350k car. Are you going to insure it for $250k if replacement value is $350k? Dealers have found out that it’s better to offer these rare items to their best customers at a discount to what the secondary market is commanding instead of just charging anybody and everybody the full market value. I don’t like it as it seems wrong and greedy-but everybody interviewed in this video (the Porsche salespeople a well as that luxury car dealer) was brutally honest about the situation.

I drive 2007 honda , why did I suddenly feel worried about the process of getting GT3 RS ? 😅 Enough UKposts for today

And what happens after you have bought 5 cars you didn't actually want,one plastic watch,one bicycle and realizing after a few years owning it that the engine of your gt3 has symptoms of bore scoring? 😂

Sounds like the luxury watch market. Try walking into a Rolex AD and asking for a Daytona 😅