"hey man, nice climb! that crack looks so wide and so steep!" "how loud is that route?"

Brain fart such dum saying! First heard it on the east coast!

I think those people had ladders.

Is the Yosemite Decibel System how loud you scream on the way after falling off.

*I got a bit of **#Vertigo** just watching this and also a tad worried that you would fall* _Stay Careful_ *It's amazing they were able to build those structures*

As we should be. I've never seen a convincing argument about how the megalithic stones used to build such structures were quarried, moved and placed... there is much we've forgotten over the eons, it's amazing, and humbling.

no such thing. made by nature not animals

I was thinking that the "hollow" rocks were actually built there by the original builders to fill gaps?

@@gwenspain8152 it’s more likely that rainwater and dew condensate running down along the harder, more-dense (overhanging) rock strata was able to seep into the softer sandstone of the lower layers, percolating through it, slowly washing out minerals like Ca, Mg, K, Na, Fe which act as binders between silica grains in sandstone. It’s also likely that the human activity on that ledge [building fires for cooking, heat, and light] also leached carbon into the sandstone below, making carbonic acid as the water gradually dissolved campfire residues with every morning dew that settled into unburnt char. Carbonic acid can, over time, leach away the silica as well - leaving hollow voids in the rock. Kinda like how caves and aquifers are formed, but on a micro-scale within a rock outcropping. …heat from the fires probably also caused enough thermal shock to open fractures in the sandstone, channeling water and carbonic acid leachate *through* the lower layers, instead of running down the cliff face (as it had in the upper strata.)

He also didn't show the bottom of the incline the cliff sat off of, so we don't know if there's anything down there either 😁

This. Sandstone is pathetically weak for a rock. Even looking at that cliff now, you can see all sorts of cracks that indicate that the whole face is in the process of cracking and breaking off. The leftover ruins will be gone in another 800 years.

I agree. This is clearly a case of collapsed walkways from erosion and rockslides from above, especially as evidenced by 14:05. Once upon a time this was likely reasonably traversible.

Ohhhhhh cooool

They used two long poles next to each other with shorter pieces going across between them. These were knows as ladders.

rjmun580. It is surprisingly easy to run up the knobs and notches left in a tall tree trunk after u cut off the branches. I ran up a tree trunk every night to sleep on the roof of my mud house in Mali, africa as a middle aged woman.

Rope ladders make more sense as they can easily be drawn up after use, thus achieving the purpose of peoples being up there in the first place (security). Wooden poles would be very heavy to drag up and use a lot of space to store until they are next needed.

I found over the years that getting down is most difficult and tricky.

I was getting mad anxiety watching him do that while holding a camera

Looks wobbly...be safe! Great photos!

Haha, I can assure you the camera makes things look steeper and narrower than they are. Where I bailed things definitely got much more serious and consequential, which I why I stopped there

@@Desert.Drifter Explored Grand Gulch in the early 70’s. The ruins and petroglyphs there were amazing. At the time it was a bit of a hike getting in there. Hope it hasn’t changed too much in 50 years. Got lost in there briefly and that definitely got my blood pressure up as it was getting dark and cold and I wasn’t dressed for it! Another amazing place is Death Hollow. That place will test your nerves and legs! Love your channel! Brings back some great memories!!!

I second this, it was very much a relief to see him turn around. Love to explore another day

Omg,, I had a heart attack just watching you 😂 Bravo!

he then cuts the video, and proceeds to steal them. are you doomb?

@@SandBox86 Would be pretty dumb to record yourself doing something illegal and then post it online for the world to see lol.

@@SandBox86 Stay away from any of this stuff. You are definitely the kind of person that would desecrate a place like this.

@@shaynejenkins446 I've doing it for years, go and start crying 😭😂😂😂

So do you forgo a car or drive electric because if not you are burning the bodies of millions of creatures every day, and that seems more disrespectful- 😂 im fecking with you tho, dont rell just stop oil, we dont need more of them 😮

Where, exactly in Oklahoma? I lived in Oklahoma for four years, and am curious where this area happened to be. Since no place in Oklahoma, resembles the Four Corners, area, in the least.

@@LUIS-ox1bv The two places I remember her mentioning was "Indian Territory" which could include a very large area and the other was Madill, OK. Also my brother lived at Altus, OK which was different also. It WAS a hundred years ago.

Wow. Love your comment. Your parents. The best?! My dad was real estate developer. Taking me to countrified areas he was about to destroy. Admiring presence of wildlife. I was so young but repelled by the irony. I adored him. Still. Somehow those trips w/dad encouraged me to go further. Find those hinterlands even the capitalists found valueless. This is where our intrepid host has taken us. The regions I haunt.

curious to ask what sort of found or bought artifacts if any did u have in your home growing up?

Beautiful memories! 😍

Well you literally scared the hell out of me up on that ledge but thank you would have liked some more close-up drone shots of the last structure up there

My thoughts and feelings have already been expressed by other aging adventurers. Thank you for taking us on trails we can no longer take ourselves. Your camera work is so detailed, I feel like those are my shoes on the rocks and ledges, and my fingers grasping crevice for support. Your narrative completes the picture, further contributing to the feeling of being there in person. Thinking this part of my life was gone, I now can live my adventures through you. You have extended a quality of life I had thought was lost. I also appreciate your example and teaching to younger adventures evaluating the risk of reaching that last ledge, and not foolishly continuing when the risk could have a deadly outcome. Thank you again for taking us on your adventures with you.

They came from the stars.....

I could actually feel this. Thank you for sharing so honestly. ❤️🙏

I'd watch content from you about native stories. Shanclen Shadow Prod has a great channel on Navajo stories.

Maybe the asteroid impacts which started the flood

I miss being out there u reminded me of being out there

wtf - are you from zion national park, too? ⚠ ⚠ the History here is about cannibals, btw, so any from Canaan might think it's 'great' I guess.

That was my thinking. You can make rope ladders and bridges as long as you need to and just yank them up when baddies approached. Then when the danger is gone you just throw it back down. I assumed it was some kind of rope bridge between the two structures too. Even if they used rope ladders and bridges, that is an almost superhuman feat. It’s wild to see something from almost 1000 years ago still standing and trying to imagine what these peoples’ lives must have been like.

Cool, alps in a german speaking country? There‘s a tribe who still builds roap bridges, i saw a documentary, they have to mobilize the whole town to get such a bridge down, but the bridge is sturdy. I post the link if i find it

​@AmadeuShinChan yes pls post, sounds great. Thank you for your effort. 🙏

@@stephgreen3070 well actually if baddies approached you know damn well i'm letting all the ladders down lol

@@Sol-Cutta [ ukposts.info/have/v-deo/f4Rea3-vbotjw2g.htmlsi=XCZCrKqyF28l8FD8 ] sorry this one‘s more informative ukposts.info/have/v-deo/gnOpoomrnpCktas.htmlsi=qBoCeqhMMGJ8PaRF

For some odd reason we do not explore our own history much here in the US. Thousands or years of history that we do not know a whole lot about. I hope that is changing.

We know the history but “they” don’t want us to know more. 2 caves out of thousands are legally accessible in the GC. Why? Safety? I call BS.

​@@davidrobinson1201 we explore it everyday and have tons of archeologists studying our Native History but it's not as celebrated as European history unfortunately.

Oh I see, I just assumed that Manifest Destiny continued on in our day and Native American history was not explored much here. It sounds like the work is being done but the general populace has not shown the interest yet. @@robertlambert4514

@@robertlambert4514I think part of the issue is that a lot of Native American lore and histories are passed on through oral traditions, as opposed to European or Asian histories which have a vast written archive which can survive centuries without anyone knowing of it. There's a phrase I find relevant here which is "Books are the memory that does not die" - and I think that's why it's so much harder to analyse Native histories - especially given that the upheavals of the Native populations means that the lore held by modern populations is fragmented and discontinuous, with much lost to the mists of time.

I am sorry sir. I lived with brutal pain for 10 years and know how pain changes who you are. I hope there is some resolution for you.

🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 I take wild lettuce in capsules for my pain and another one for the nerve pain. I looked up herbs to help and found that they take the edge off so I can function. All the best to you!

@sandralouth3103 well the spine was fused last year but takes some time to heal

Im gonna check that out this summer. Was it a pain to process? ​@@leopardwoman38

I totally understand where you're coming from. Living with chronic pain is incredibly debilitating. Andrew's videos let me escape and forget about my pain. And yes, definitely lifts one's spirits. I hope your pain eases for you. All the very best.

RIGHT.........HES A GOOD GUY..............LOVED THE JOURNEY................IM A 1ST TIMER TOOO,,,,,,,,,,IM GONNA SUB........#BIGBADPAPPAWOLF

I kind of wish he turned it upside down to protect the drawing

Taking such a piece of pottery would be highly illegal under ARPA (Archaeological Resources Protection Act of 1979). Taking it and publishing a video doing it would be monumentally stupid, providing evidence of the crime...and ARPA carries fines for violations and (in more serious cases) potential jail time.

​@craigk.gowens7534 really? 😅what it if it was on my property?

Good point Craigk. Didn’t think of that. Cheers!

This was my thought too. Those cracks look pretty cherry for climbing. I'm guessing some physically fit person living there a few hundred years ago wouldn't have had much trouble, even without sophisticated gear. Wooden pegs would go a long way to making it easier if you were carrying stones or supplies, and can be pulled out afterwards for security.

@@sicksock435446 One of the defenses would have to have been the limited knowledge of some solid free climbing skills. If you were trying to follow the natives you would swear they climbed vertical walls like spirits! It had to have been a way of life to be able to jam up a crack without missing a beat. Just like walking. And we are talking generations of free solo climbers. Who knows what you could find in those "less" accessable areas. Sure makes me want to visit that area again and pole around a bit.

Girl please, do y'all seriously think every peice of discarded antique trash in the desert is sacred? It's not even remotely ancient.

Hopefully as a Native American you can offer an explanation as to the mystery of how these dwellings were constructed and accessed rather than just commenting on the artifacts which are clearly being respected anyway (and surely aren't all sacred as was mentioned by the other person). Eagerly awaiting your insight, thanks.

Sacred how?

Here here...

​@GM-qq1wi Always nice to see ignorance on subjects like this. I'll try to explain. In many native cultures pottery was used to house divine beings or spirits. Some were literally used on altars or had special meaning to the family that created them. Just because you don't hold that type of artistry special, doesn't mean it was nothing to these ancient peoples. Clearly this will probably go over your head anyway, but I tried.

Wow awe inspiring, breath taking bro thx. 🤘😎

I always worry when you go climbing up a cliff and struggle across a rim edge that if you do fall, how long will it be before help can get to you? If they ever find you.

That's a big NO for me

Who knows how much of the original route has fallen or washed away since it was last used.

Sandstone... vertical... free climb? Makes me very nervous. Not something to trifle with. Holds can just disappear.

What you wrote is what I was just thinking 🤔.

With the vastness of the territory you would think each group had resources….its sad they were threatened…but times must have been really rough

@@piratessalyx7871 I read that a 'multidecade drought that came close to today's was in the 1500s', and more evidence of even longer, more severe drought has been found to have occurred in paleohistory in the southwest. The tribes would have been not only competing for area food/water resources but attacking and stealing from other tribes in a desperate bid for survival. I think saying ' times were rough' would be an understatement.

Appreciate the theory. It sounds plausible.

Well said Paleobuzz, I appreciate you sharing your insights with all of us

I need one of you. To keep in my pocket.

At 19:27 you can see what appears to be a perfectly built wall in the background just above ground level. Or was that a natural formation from multiple sediment layers? And if you look upwards into the right of that very long wall you can see an opening as though somebody had lived also there. Are you gonna check that out the next time you come back in the same area? Also, I was trying to figure out why people would want to spend so much time, effort and risk living in those hard-to-reach dwellings? At first I thought it was to be protected against other human tribes that would attack them. But that did not make any sense because all the other attacking tribesmen would have to do is simply wait them out while they died of either lack of water or food. So, I doubt that was the reason for them living there. Then, I considered the probability that they were trying to avoid something like mountain lions that would simply follow the humans and either attack them during the daytime or while he slept on the open grounds. That makes more sense why they built those extremely hard to reach dwellings on the cliff. And I normally would ask what someone else thinks about this reasonable explanation I came up with but no one ever responds with their thoughts or comments anyway so don't even think about responding to my comment. BUT the main reason I usually NEVER get any thumbs up or comments to any of my comments on UKposts is that the damn retarded-minded UKposts extreme left-wing Libturds/Democraps monitor and read our personnel comments hate my guts because I support Trump and give good reasons why. Those UKposts monitor personnel retards simply stop anybody from making comments or leaving at thumbs up to anything I say it.

I grew up on the Navajo rez, my oldest lives in Mesa and we live in FL....

@@1Dogsoldier4life I moved from Mesa AZ. Athens GA. coming close to 8 years ago. I do miss my high dessert homeland very much. I plan on a much needed vacation with my wife to AZ. this November. I am looking forward to showing my wife how special the dessert is to one's soul.

@@danielhillwick5276 that will be amazing, has she ever been? I've taken my husband to the rez a few times, my dad still lives there, and to the grand canyon and also phx for grandbabys bdays. It is a special place for sure.

I'm the same age and did my share of hiking and climbing back in the day, but would not dare fate at this age.

I’ll go with both of you. I’m 42, not that that’s very reassuring 😅

Y'all can ascend to heaven. Way better experience lol!

@@WhiteGeared bro wtf?! Have some respect for those who come before you.

@@22TheJmans It's way more respectful and beneficial if y'all ascend sooner in this era of overpopulation.

I suppose, when our civilization devolves, as it is doing at a rapid pace, people centuries from now, will be asking the same questions upon stumbling on the ruins of the Empire State Building. How and why did they build these monoliths? It must have been aliens, or some sort of religious edifice.

They are afraid people will decipher secrets of the past. They are protecting what has been taught in schools. These are melted cities from a pre Adamic civilization. Great knowledge and treasures would be found underneath

Yup. And then they are completely taken out of context. Within a generation, it's, "from an Indian site somewhere in the desert".

Alright but what if he puts it back and nobody else were to ever see it or witness it again? Maybe donating to a museum would’ve been the next best thing to do? I just feel like leaving such things where we found them is like finding a needle in a haystack and tossing it back in. That’s just my thoughts though. Glad we at the very least got to see video footage of the chunk of pottery, I hope anyone else who might come along to visit finds it.

Do you really think that's why he left it there?

Do Americans have museums?

@@nangld Yeah, we do (I know your joking) and I harshly disagree with the hippy dippy "leave it there" sentiment. Looking forward to a likely butt hurt reply regarding my thoughts on the matter.

I agree! Don’t want an accident happening. Take care and be careful! 😮

Watching this near midnight in UK and getting very wobbly whilst lying in bed! Thank you for sharing these places that most of us will never see. Could the “portholes” be ventilation holes for some sort of store?

That's funny I said the same thing. He's the best guy out there. Please listen to us. Your exuberance shows and we all love it. But if you don't back off some we are all going to make you harness up and write a daily planner and have us approve your activities. Lol.

I agree!! I feel nauseous. Andrew this was too extreme. 😮But. I could hear my mom telling me to stop climbing. Thanks for using your head. Thrilling. Heart racing.😊

You need someone spotting you doing that level of climbing, if you fall and knock yourself out ,break a leg or drop your phone then what.

SO DANGEROUS TO CLIMB THAT

I had to keep telling myself that, I was so scared for him. He is such a good hiker though, know he knows his stuff!

Haha, yes if there's a video posted, its likely not posthumously

The rocks are not hollow. That was adobe.

@@susannadzejachok3230 so very brittle then though right?

@@jusdsun8319 right!

Thats what i thought

Until I did some reading recently, I had no idea how huge the Grand Canyon is. It’s mind blowing.

You don't want somebody yelling I WENT TO THE DESERT AND FOUND FIVE IMPOSSIBLE RUINS! WILL MY CYBERTRUCK SURVIVE AS I JUMP FROM ONE AND SMASH INTO THE OTHER? IT'S OK BECAUSE I'M BUYING THE LOCALS 20 LAMBORGINIS THAT THEY CAN'T POSSIBLY AFFORD TO MAINTAIN. CLICK TO SUBSCRIBE!

@@ZenEndurance Hahahaha, exactly that, yet so many UKposts channels are of that nature. It's so jarring, even without the adds. Finding a "good" IMO, UKposts channel can be tricky, but they are out there. Voices of the past, is another gem. Much much better than anything you'd ever find on the history channel or Netflix.

Ailens 😂😂😂

Yep. Just because implements, rope, ladders, scaffolding isn't there now, doesn't mean they never were.

Would make sense they used wooden poles to make bridges to cross the gaps. They might have even built them into the structures to make them more stable.

Yes, they had ladders all over the place. Big herkin ladders & hauled everything up on the ladders. Yep, that's how they did it. Plus more 🌞🪜 🪜

But with scaffolding in place, the security is gone. Also I don't see how anyone could survive here for more than a week or so.

The path has definitely deteriorated. Not “significant rock fall” as he described like the whole side of that gap falling off.. but significant enough to make the pass near impossible now. There’s enough rubble at the bottom that matches the color rock up above to indicate the path has broken off.

Are these rocks usually this smooth? Anytime I see people living higher up it’s usually either due to predators or water level. Maybe there use to be a river or something below.

@@KaxxonxboxSandstone weathers easily so it does tend to be pretty smooth unless there is a stream which is highly effective at cutting through it. Pretty sure most of the large floods of that area happened at the latest something like 11,000 years ago when the ice age started ending. The floods that resulted when ice dams broke (such as the Missoula floods) were responsible for a good amount of the landscape of Western North America. Hard to say when this ruin was inhabited without more info though.

AZ native here and have hiking/rock climbing experience also… plenty on sandstone. I like how you addressed the erosion but you don’t address the clear indicator of erosion from the black streak that leads down to that section you couldn’t pass.. which is water staining. Also, the younger darker rock stained from the water erosion is exposed on the rock by where you were tapping. Yes there might not have been a large sheered off section but imo, it was water erosion that wore off that section enough to cause major damage. Btw, I love your videos and enjoy watching them, in no way am I knocking your opinion because this is just mine. Keep it up!

In other locations expert level climb routes, proof someone was climbing that route, have been found which modern experts can climb. So the tribe experts climbed up and ropes were lowered as needed. But scouts and single warriors probably just climbed down and back up later so not to bother with the amount of rope require.

It looks to me like old, or ancient water lines are found all over the earth. Just like on ancient Egypt ruins. Water was higher for example in the southwest such as lake Bonneville and various floods in history. So, people could float to these places or swim. There are many stories of these, but the history isn't gone into often and honestly enough. What we're taught is mostly theories or worse scams. People have always been controlling others with lies, stories, theories and scams its usually for power, control or most often just greed money or fame etc. Selfish escapism desires of all types obtained by lying, terrifying, scamming, helping in slave classism, or just being greedy and selfish. We have more scam theft ads pop up during videos than ever before online now. Everyone sells worthless crap or worse poisons and slavery systems nonsense telling others they can make money easily or get rich. Its 99% scams literally just like all the fake money asking for organizations, tax thieving governments and fake charities. I cannot believe how many people fall for it all. I'm going with higher water levels, because people would find other options to build and other places if the obstacles, they faced included moving rocks up that high. Most likely they were living on the water and from the water. That's most common in history. Fishing, birds and travel are much more of a lifestyle than the theory of drought and doing incredible building that is just unbelievably strenuous. Ancient people were hunters, gatherers, used fishing a lot and small farms all over the place. They would move around with weather and food sources. So, this was likely stops on their water and land journeys also. Places to stay or stash supplies during travels to more quality places. The earth has so many great places to live why choose places you would suffer? Also, the powerful and rich may have paid these people to explore for things they wanted. They could have been explorers and survivalists on journeys needing emergency shelters and shipping stops along the way. My best guesses. Enjoy! I have another theory that many step pyramids are actually ancient mines that were turned into temples or for other uses. Today miners still create step pyramids all over the earth with mine tailings. Deceivers and their believers run the earth. Bribers and bribe takers. Often not good for most people as its slave classism and they RUIN place after place especially in modern times with poisons, wastes of resources and bad to terrible social control system for maximum power, control, overt or more COVERT slavery, stealing and slave classes keeping. Some people are just not supposed to be in power or have extreme wealth. They will abuse it and misuse it if allowed. The places these types operate are vacated as they aren't not good for more to terrible, become prisons, are conquered, or destroyed. Food for saner thoughts lol.

Exactly. You can see above, where the water cuts down and underneath the rock in between the "pillars." Exactly where it was probably a ledge that continued.

Not likely. It had to come from above, lowered on ropes. Carrying it up makes zero sense.

I kept thinking how the heck lil children and elderly would trek this rock laden hollow

This is the exact reason I think there had to be ledges that fell. At least enough to get across. Put it this way. The first section is almost in the same condition. At some points there were inches. That wouldn’t been really seen as a pile. I’m inexperienced and guessing though.

Regardless of how they accessed it, I'm sure they would've used some kind of pulley system, or simply just ropes to haul the materials up from the bottom, rather than climbing with them

There's probably more to that than just rocks and ropes. They probably had a wooden structure to make that place more accessible. Unless early people on that place are spider man and woman 😂.

Thanks for the support David

I have to keep reminding myself: well, I'm watching the video, so it's going to be ok...

I always found going in was much easier than getting out. I felt multiple nerve impulses watching him as you got sweaty hands. Yikes

One-handed, to hold the damn camera-stick 🙈

A good climber will never climb up something they can't climb down if not roped.

probably a lot of un experienced people are going out there for experiences, and they get injured or killed doing it. Only leaving it up to the authorities to come get them at tax payers expense.

It’s ok, whoever is running the camera will look out for him

@@DD-bn2mx Yeah of course but you have to go experience some things to get experience, kinda like learning to drive. The only way to get better at it is to start driving. Some people die driving at any point in their experiences of driving. Same here, dude seems like he's got a good head on his shoulders and is being careful. Sometimes shit just happens though.

No kidding! Scary what he was doing all alone.

You forgot GUN

Yeah, when that rocked moved just a bit at 9:39 my heart skipped. Keep thinking of that line "It's a long way down to the bottom of the warp core." The lens must really distort the reality because it looks super narrow and one slip of those shoes on soft dusted rock... ack. Andrew should get a buddy for these adventures.

It seems like water would have been involved. That whole ledge is a shoreline i think, and by the looks...it was a shoreline for a long time. They didn't climb up there. They floated. Just a thought.

"Hey, I found Uncle Quexal's tooth in an Aztec turd the other day."

They are not lost we don’t publicize them bc everytime our sacred sights end up on UKposts or something within 6 month to one year they are defaced. All people need to find to find these is a ridge lines.

Not necessarily alone. . . 🤔 .. lol.. what about those port holes he's infatuated with

Could have been super easy originally. If the ancient people watched the video, they might say, "Man! This guy is doing some dangerous climbing!"

Came to say spear holes.

Yeah whole sections have fallen down just like the 2nd wall had fractures ect

Yeah he even said it. "Its was like hollow sand stone to keep going ". Thoes ruins are way older than we think..

These are melted cities. When are people going to wake up to the fake history we were taught. Great treasure is to be found beneath,in terms of ancient patents technology and storehouses of scarce material.

Thank you for watching!

I wonder if they employed rope & wood ladders, which are easily retracted(?) Think rope & wood ladders from wooden ship days -

​@@houseofsolomon2440I think they used boats and it was and inland lake or sea that has been drained. You can see water erosion all along the rock faces

@@RustyShakleford1 I think they flew in helicopters, that makes as much sense as boats. That area hasn't been under water for 10,000 years.

@@dogsop fool look at maritime shipping maps from the 1700s much of the coast was a shallow inland sea that the Spanish drained for agriculture.....they brought in their grass for grazing the drained valley

​@@RustyShakleford1 You have no idea what you are talking about. The Four Corners area was an inland sea millions of years ago, not 300. Some links to actual scientific proof of this fantasy, please.

True! A small and gradual crumbling during centuries would look like pebbles or sand at the bottom (I guess). But... my mind is perfectly at easy with the mystery of it all.

Thanks for watching and commenting!

@@tomasviane3844 I would imagine that a lot of the rock falls are not that small. You can clearly see large piles of fallen rock bellow many of the gaps. To big of boulders to come from small rockfalls. That would make some of the different places a bit easier to get to before the rockfalls. Some of the ledges have gaps where there one was rock.

Yes absolutely. All mountains will eventually become rubble. Piles of dirt. Older mountains we know today show it clearly, eg these desert remnants vs the younger Appalachians vs the youngest Rockies.

Definitely deserves it.

​@@webwillie1yes he does!

100k plus, pretty wild! Thanks to people like you!