I Interviewed Undertale's Music Publisher

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CiblesGD

15 днів тому

I Interviewed Undertale's Music Publisher. Following up on my video talking about how Undertale's Music is in Danger.
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Undertale's Music is in Copyright Hell. Today I interviewed a representative from Undertale's Music Publisher Materia Music to talk about it and why these things may happen. We go in depth to talk about fangames like Undertale Yellow and including music from Deltarune as well.
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@CiblesGD
@CiblesGD 13 днів тому
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@salesman1997
@salesman1997 13 днів тому
SPAMTON JUMPSCARE
@TheGreatSayaMan0212
@TheGreatSayaMan0212 13 днів тому
@@salesman1997 AAAAAAAAAA
@redumbreonandgreenchicorit9176
@redumbreonandgreenchicorit9176 13 днів тому
Aw man I am gonna be *SOOO* busy on April 27.
@Arandomcat363
@Arandomcat363 13 днів тому
Ah !
@astercorsiglia9391
@astercorsiglia9391 13 днів тому
THATS MY BIRTHDAY YEAAAHH
@Shabalabadoober
@Shabalabadoober 13 днів тому
Sebastian Wolff vs Toby Fox is some Waluigi type shit😭🙏
@alanoswiecimski2080
@alanoswiecimski2080 13 днів тому
evil twin brother situation 💯💯
@AriaFlame37
@AriaFlame37 13 днів тому
This sounds like some starfox thing and I can’t get that out of my head now
@BelBelle468
@BelBelle468 13 днів тому
I’d say Wario over Waluigi. Waluigi has love in his heart (for Daisy) I don’t know if Wolff has that. On the other hand, Wario is greedy. And I think that Wolff fits the bill.
@TheGreatSayaMan0212
@TheGreatSayaMan0212 13 днів тому
FACTS!
@avcables_
@avcables_ 13 днів тому
sonic adventure 2
@ShayyTV
@ShayyTV 13 днів тому
As many issues as we've had with all of this, I have a lot of respect for Jamie appearing on camera and answering questions in this format. Content ID being janky doesn't help anybody in this situation, but I do hope that this leads to creators being able to have a more open communication about this stuff with Materia instead of getting information through another Wolff thread causing massive issues.
@reidd5515
@reidd5515 13 днів тому
Agreed, he doesn't seem like such a bad guy! as for Sebastian though...
@Astatine16
@Astatine16 13 днів тому
Didn't expect to see a 19 minute old Shayy comment today.
@thepainpanda7681
@thepainpanda7681 13 днів тому
Agreed! Hopefully this also makes it harder for accidental/false strikes and takedowns of accounts and videos to happen
@tanyagade4693
@tanyagade4693 13 днів тому
Absolutely! Hope this situation is resolved soon, especially knowing how little control Materia has over the copyright claims
@apenaseu7588
@apenaseu7588 13 днів тому
@@reidd5515 he's just evil version of Toby
@jamie_materia3640
@jamie_materia3640 13 днів тому
Thanks for having me on! I really enjoyed getting to chat about this stuff for once and I'm always happy to shed light on it to benefit the community.
@BiAndProud_
@BiAndProud_ 13 днів тому
You were great! Also glad to have you answer my question at 7:05 and give some insight on Sebastian. Thanks for clearing things up! 😊
@herbiek4922
@herbiek4922 13 днів тому
Hey! Thank you a lot for the informative interview but I have another question: Any specific recommendations for what licensing these fangame developers should seek out? Because as I understand the UTY devs did use Distrokid and they told Wolff this back then, but apparently it wasn't the right one because of covers or something. What should they have sought instead?
@falloutphan7341
@falloutphan7341 13 днів тому
Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions!
@jamie_materia3640
@jamie_materia3640 13 днів тому
@@herbiek4922 Great question! Generally speaking Distrokid is fine, as are most other DIY services. The main reason the UTY team ran into issues is because they did so AFTER uploading the music, rather than before, so the damage had already been done. And to be clear, I mean no shade to the UTY team; they're great and they just got caught up in the craziness of copyright stuff.
@Spikel3t
@Spikel3t 13 днів тому
Thanks for answering my question and making things easier for content creators :D
@Yuti640
@Yuti640 13 днів тому
I wish this happened BEFORE Wolff became an issue. Materia has always been a sort of copyright demon in the Undertale community, but we’ve never really gotten a look at their legal side until Wolff went way too far. Basically, an interview like this should’ve happened MUCH earlier.
@jyfunnel
@jyfunnel 13 днів тому
But now we should thank Wolf for forcing the entire team to confront the situation. /hj
@Yuti640
@Yuti640 13 днів тому
@@jyfunnel that is sort of true though, knowledge of Materia stopped being so niche after Wolff leading to this interview So i guess in a weird way, we should thank Wolff???????
@agnesgiess7364
@agnesgiess7364 6 днів тому
@@Yuti640While I agree on you on that, still what sebastian has done is not very good. It was said that it was with good intentions, but still he went against toby’s will.
@RipVanFish09
@RipVanFish09 13 днів тому
My god, this just highlights how AWFUL UKposts's claiming system is.
@zigazav1
@zigazav1 13 днів тому
Agreed. Also, we need a true competitor to UKposts to give UKposts a motive to be better. We have Twitch, but I think they had streaming before UKposts. UKposts only added live streaming because of Twitch. They're really on a competitor on the livestreaming, we don't have a full on video content host site besides UKposts. Any others that existed in the past died. It's hard to compete with Google
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 13 днів тому
Not just that Copyright system in and of itself is *fucking terrible*
@tomahawkgamesbr6045
@tomahawkgamesbr6045 13 днів тому
Just to put into perspective, there's a youtuber called theoriginalace that uploaded a parody of gangster's paradise, eventually, the publishers of the og song claimed his video, he tried to dispute, but obviously nothing came out of it, so he grabbed another account that had absolutely nothing to do with the song, and claimed his own video... he now gets 50% of the revenue
@RipVanFish09
@RipVanFish09 13 днів тому
@@tomahawkgamesbr6045 that... is so incredibly stupid. Wow, this system is REALLY bad.
@aevus
@aevus 12 днів тому
sorry, i meant GrayJay not blue jay in my last comment
@CyborusYT
@CyborusYT 13 днів тому
I commend you for putting undertale yellow music in the background. That's so funny
@Glue_Gunner
@Glue_Gunner 13 днів тому
LOL DID HE ACTUALLY? I DIDNT WATCH THE VIDEO YET
@PikaPenny17
@PikaPenny17 13 днів тому
@@Glue_Gunner Isn't Cibles' pronouns she/her?
@Glue_Gunner
@Glue_Gunner 13 днів тому
@@PikaPenny17 I have no idea.
@CyborusYT
@CyborusYT 13 днів тому
@@PikaPenny17 yes
@CyborusYT
@CyborusYT 13 днів тому
@@Glue_Gunner she*, but yes
@The_One_In_Black
@The_One_In_Black 13 днів тому
The fact that remixes even need a license and don't count as the new compositions that they are is wild to me.
@qlx-i
@qlx-i 13 днів тому
In general, to youtube & stuff. WHY THE FUCK can't you define your license
@Wilker_uwu
@Wilker_uwu 13 днів тому
you'd be surprised to learn that copyright law has absolutely no quantification of similarity of works. "fair use" is a honeypot most of the time since there is no objective observations defined to quantify it other than a vague checklist, and computer moderation does not help with that.
@Shugunou
@Shugunou 13 днів тому
From what I've gathered, it's mostly a US thing.
@jlco
@jlco 13 днів тому
The problem is, if I just slap a small modification like a drum loop on an existing track, does that constitute a new composition? Probably not, but then what about The8BitDrummer playing drums over a track? That takes musical skill. And if not that, what about an arrangement that is almost the same melody, but not quite? And then so much of music is made of little pieces of other stuff, especially when you want to make references with motifs. It's all just a giant mess, and the lines are never as clear as you expect.
@Shugunou
@Shugunou 13 днів тому
@@jlco European countries figured it out years ago. All the US has to do is draft a bill based on the one from one of the countries. Sure, fair dealing doesn't cover everything it should but neither does fair use. Even a hybrid of US and European law would be better than what we have.
@necrostar0248
@necrostar0248 13 днів тому
Huh, ngl, I'm impressed. Jamie seems like an overall chill guy and he went very into detail (as much as he could anyways) on all the questions. Thank you very much you two, have a great day.
@ChromiusMixin
@ChromiusMixin 13 днів тому
Much needed interview honestly. It's honestly irksome to have to constantly receive copyright claims, even moreso as a channel of my scale. The kind of thing that leaves me reeling back, going "Ugh."
@VERGIL...-
@VERGIL...- 13 днів тому
Absolutely insane how Materia seems to be a lot more professional and polite then they seemed at a first glance I thought they were an evil company or some shit but this video showed a much brighter side of the company And even the polar opposite,Sebastian seems a lot more of a respectable guy thanks to that explanation (given he is the CEO he coulda set it up so no one talked badly of him so i am forced to give that part the benefit of the doubt here)
@artm04
@artm04 13 днів тому
I'm still skeptical about Sebastian Wolf. Maybe cuz his name literally sounds like an evil version of Toby fox 😆 But seriously, I hope Sebastian's gonna speak out on the situation instead of having other employees deal with his unproffesional behavior. His communication with Team UTY was weird and jerky. Even the UT R&D situation is weird, because their Twitter team couldn't communicate properly that they did not give the copyright claim. Thanks to this guy for explaining the international copyright tho. It does make a lot more sanse now.
@apenaseu7588
@apenaseu7588 13 днів тому
@@artm04 "sanse" llol
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 13 днів тому
​@@apenaseu7588 Youu couuld sayy copyrigght crap really givvves everyone a "bbad time" And the fact that it should bbbe "burrning inn hell""" ell" Hhhhahahahhhhahahhahahahahhhhhhh Error 404: "copyright sucks" not found Connection lost
@artm04
@artm04 12 днів тому
​@@apenaseu7588sanse undertale
@Jake28
@Jake28 12 днів тому
@@artm04 guess you could say they didn't have any 'common sans'
@positivity3311
@positivity3311 13 днів тому
This whole situation is less a fault of materia music and more a critique of copyright and the music industry.
@salesman1997
@salesman1997 13 днів тому
DONT YOU LOVE COMING TO A [[new Video]] AND SEE THE NUMBER BEING AT [[No]] [[Early Hello]] TO ALL THE [[Big Shots]]
@Eucerinobjectfool
@Eucerinobjectfool 13 днів тому
Hello
@sandscake
@sandscake 13 днів тому
Hello
@JASH784
@JASH784 13 днів тому
spamton my beloved
@HopeOrLunarEclipse
@HopeOrLunarEclipse 13 днів тому
Hi!
@Lazy-Cat197
@Lazy-Cat197 13 днів тому
Hello number 1 rated salesman 1997
@TheSpriteWarrior1309
@TheSpriteWarrior1309 13 днів тому
Even if my question did not appear, it was answered indirectly, so I am satisfied with that
@InternetFanatic
@InternetFanatic 13 днів тому
It’s nice that Materia turned to be better than it looked and things were caused by just UKposts Automations phew… 😅 Also damn Undertale Yellow was so good and Undertale Like that Copyright seemingly harmed it, even Google recognized it as it’s own game
@BiAndProud_
@BiAndProud_ 13 днів тому
Materia as a WHOLE I don’t believe is that bad of a company, I’ll just be honest, the problem was Sebastian Wolff and UKposts’s copyright ID system.
@shallowtbh
@shallowtbh 13 днів тому
If I understood it correctly, Jamie here says that the UTY copyright drama happened because UTY uploaded its music without getting the proper license. This doesn't make sense to me. I thought UTY used DistroKid (a music distributor) to upload its music? Or is it because they uploaded their music to UKposts before getting a distributor? (Edit: Yes, that is the reason, Jamie confirmed it in the replies to his own comment in this video.) Does this also mean that all Undertale remixes require a music distributor to be uploaded? Music distributors cost money, after all. Also, as a musician I find it very concerning that Content ID finds videos to copyright claim based on the melodies that songs use. It's very easy for two people to come up with the exact same melody without ever interacting with each other, and it's even easier to subconsciously add melodies from songs you've heard without noticing. This system needs to change.
@twinshiftyt
@twinshiftyt 13 днів тому
If i understod it it wasn’t that they just needed a distributor and instead that they needed a license, and when I looked up more about it it seems like you need the permission and I guess also the license from the one who owns or created the music you made a remix off.
@ThaumcraftMC
@ThaumcraftMC 13 днів тому
Jamie answered the first question in the comments. Yes, they got the license after uploading the music.
@l.c.habibi2339
@l.c.habibi2339 12 днів тому
I, to, am a musician, and I agree on what you've said.
@ZrUltra
@ZrUltra 13 днів тому
Cibles, you are the future of us humans and monsters... our hopes and dreams...
@MeltingRougeSoul13
@MeltingRougeSoul13 13 днів тому
Our megalovania...
@infernogaming4671
@infernogaming4671 13 днів тому
@@MeltingRougeSoul13our Long Elevator…
@Ambiverted
@Ambiverted 13 днів тому
our determination
@wither3615
@wither3615 13 днів тому
Our Ooo
@EggsBenedict2
@EggsBenedict2 13 днів тому
Our Tem Shop we are filled with detemmienation
@Flowermations
@Flowermations 13 днів тому
Sebastian Wolff: Annoying dog´s more annoying grumpy twin. Sebastian Wolff in actuality: Just a normal annoying doggo that sucks at communicating and was trying to tell creators how to prevent getting copyright claimed by the system.
@ofituder
@ofituder 13 днів тому
sounds like a music publisher bossfight with the music in the background
@Phantom_Buggo
@Phantom_Buggo 13 днів тому
I'll edit the end of my comment here when I'm done, but after all the BS that happened a few months ago, I wish stuff like this wasn't still happening. I'm glad you're keeping this in the spotlight Cibs. ❤ Ok, five minutes in, and I'm appreciating his attitude and responses to each of the questions, very insightful as to how... I guess automatic? these processes are. Hmm. Very much appreciative of how open he was to each and every question that was asked. Hopefully this makes understanding the process easier. ^^
@TemperanceSunlight
@TemperanceSunlight 13 днів тому
One of the most difficult areas are copyright law. This is so interesting, specially with the explanation of how the claims in google works.
@SimisearOfficial
@SimisearOfficial 7 днів тому
I forget what the specifics were, but I saw a twitter thread around the time the initial backlash against Sebastian happened where someone claimed to have worked on an official Undertale project, and after badmouthing Sebastian, had their name removed from the project credits even though they did a lot of work on it Edit: Found it, Laura Platt posted about having her credits removed from the Deltarune Chapter 1 Piano Arrangement Book which she composed the piano arrangements for after publicly talking about her experiences with Sebastian. What on gods green earth is “well intentioned” about that?
@Boi_7777
@Boi_7777 13 днів тому
WAIT SEBASTIAN WOLFF IS A REAL GUY I THOUGHT IT WAS A JOKE LIKE EVIL TOBY FOX OR SOME SHIT I DIDNT KNOW HE WAS REAL
@LF21Hungry
@LF21Hungry 13 днів тому
welcome to the real world i guess lol
@clodolcmidnights837
@clodolcmidnights837 13 днів тому
To be fair, his name really does make him sound like just an evil version of toby fox
@LF21Hungry
@LF21Hungry 13 днів тому
@@clodolcmidnights837 true lol
@TheSpiderInUrWalls
@TheSpiderInUrWalls 4 дні тому
Same dude, he just sounds like Toby’s evil twin
@lilyawoodburn
@lilyawoodburn 13 днів тому
The explanations of how UKposts's backend (poorly) handles the copyright claims, and why music remixes were getting claimed due to lack of license, actually make perfect sense. Props to both Cibles and Jamie for being super professional about this whole thing and shedding light on what happened and why!
@domi-no1826
@domi-no1826 13 днів тому
the background music being UTY is comical
@kittensgalore6945
@kittensgalore6945 13 днів тому
About time they responded.
@FirstFallenHuman999
@FirstFallenHuman999 13 днів тому
I have no more minimum wage
@DeterminedBlade
@DeterminedBlade 13 днів тому
Chara your “Minimum wage” is at least 5 Chocolate bars.
@FirstFallenHuman999
@FirstFallenHuman999 13 днів тому
@@DeterminedBlade Now I get 6 (。◕‿‿◕。)
@user-wc7dh4vl3r
@user-wc7dh4vl3r 13 днів тому
Which one, Mr good bar, or regular Hershey?
@FirstFallenHuman999
@FirstFallenHuman999 13 днів тому
@@user-wc7dh4vl3r Yes
@CollinHagemeier
@CollinHagemeier 13 днів тому
Get maximum wage
@mchlkpng
@mchlkpng 13 днів тому
Copyright hell when Public Domain Heaven walks in
@Butterscotch_96
@Butterscotch_96 12 днів тому
Real
@cheesymcnuggets
@cheesymcnuggets 13 днів тому
This honestly clears up so many questions I've had for years about copyrighted music on youtube
@foggy8298
@foggy8298 13 днів тому
I hope everyone remembers this is someone who’s literal job is to make materia licensing look as good as possible publicly Even if every single thing he’s said here is factually correct one should attempt to examine the specifics of the words he says and doesn’t say This is most obvious with how he talks about his boss, ofc, lol Not claiming anything about him in particular nor the facts of his claims, just reminding people of his position in this and how he isn’t a neutral party and it’s incorrect to treat him as such
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 13 днів тому
I have a video that is copyright claimed by Materia Music Publishing for using the original Finale song which they very oddly label as "by Nick Nitro", someone who remixes Undertale songs. While it has no impact on the video (likely because its not monetized with the research I've made) I am still beyond confused why first, it was claimed to begin with, and second, why it says the song is by Nick Nitro. Not only is Nick Nitro obviously not working with Materia Music to publish their remixed version of Finale, I also wasn't even using their remixed version of Finale.
@mariotheundying
@mariotheundying 13 днів тому
Yeah that's the problem the guy mentioned, some videos would get claimed by UTY because UKposts sucks
@PlayerCarter.
@PlayerCarter. 13 днів тому
@@mariotheundying I saw that part. Though the claim on my video wasn't through a third party like UTY. I am mainly just confused how someone who makes unofficial remixes got thrown into the mix.
@xatime2833
@xatime2833 9 днів тому
@@PlayerCarter. UKposts is hella weird
@FiveTwenty507
@FiveTwenty507 3 дні тому
Facts that Liars don't deserve anything at all
@cca9961
@cca9961 13 днів тому
no views 11 comments and 39 likes, youtube at its finest
@swizzlewarp
@swizzlewarp 13 днів тому
Putting the Undertale Yellow music in the background was a nice touch. Power move, lmao.
@zigazav1
@zigazav1 13 днів тому
very bold/brave to do so here
@justlimeguy
@justlimeguy 13 днів тому
11:10 "licence before you post" is something I needed to know
@BiAndProud_
@BiAndProud_ 13 днів тому
7:00 thanks so much for having my question in the video, Cibles! Wonderful video as always, and I’m happy some things were made a little more clear. ❤
@JackitK
@JackitK 13 днів тому
I appreciate the education and it's nice to get the other perspective on all of this. My only concern is with all this emphasis on "get your music licensed and have them upload it" I was hoping there would be a bit more focus on how one goes through the process of properly licensing their music. If people are making these fan games for free, then I'm a bit concern about how they would get the funds to get their works properly licensed.
@zigazav1
@zigazav1 13 днів тому
Copyright sucks. I get why it has to exist, but it more commonly causes problems instead of help
@stitches_johnson
@stitches_johnson 10 днів тому
What they were saying about the direct upload stuff around 5:50 actually happened to me where rather than getting a Materia clam I got a Skatune network claim for enemy approaching.
@theominouspigeon
@theominouspigeon 13 днів тому
reveal the secrets
@ImPrettySureThisIsMax
@ImPrettySureThisIsMax 13 днів тому
“Perhaps I treated you too harshly”
@mr.j3rs3y
@mr.j3rs3y 13 днів тому
True tho XD
@chairsilla
@chairsilla 13 днів тому
AU: sebastian fox vs toby wolff
@Goobert_and_the_ooberts
@Goobert_and_the_ooberts 13 днів тому
TS!Real life swap
@captaintheo86
@captaintheo86 13 днів тому
@@Goobert_and_the_ooberts realityswap
@chairsilla
@chairsilla 13 днів тому
@@Goobert_and_the_ooberts TS!irlswap
@JustJum
@JustJum 11 днів тому
TS!irlDustSwap
@narrativeless404
@narrativeless404 13 днів тому
*ERASE COPYRIGHT* FREE THE INDIE CREATORS FROM *CORPORATE HELL!!!*
@Spikel3t
@Spikel3t 13 днів тому
Glad my question got answered! Hope things will start smoothing out when it comes to undertale's music and copy right claims :D
@JimBimBum
@JimBimBum 11 днів тому
This system isn't just illegal but you can't claim to own a melody. that's not a song.
@bradcalvin8185
@bradcalvin8185 12 днів тому
wow Cibles, just thanks for every thing you do! your one of the sweetest youtubers I know!
@chrissysonicutdrloz
@chrissysonicutdrloz 3 дні тому
This actually answered a lot of questions I had about music publishing in general!
@paydaygh9388
@paydaygh9388 13 днів тому
We need to reform copyright law or else things like this will continue to happen.
@OceanBagel
@OceanBagel 13 днів тому
So if I'm understanding it correctly... People who create remixes need to pay for a license before posting their work on UKposts or other platforms. Sure, I guess if that's the way copyright law is then it is what it is. But then if someone wanted to use someone else's remix in their video, they just have to hope that the remix artist got a license or else they risk getting their own videos taken down? If that's really accurate then that has some terrible consequences for people who use remixes in their videos or play fangames with remixes, who are now themselves on the hook for every remix they use, even when both the remix artist and Toby Fox insist on not taking down such videos. And this seems to be the case given how it lines up with how UTY videos were treated... If this is really their policy then nothing has actually changed. The next hit UT-inspired fangame will result in people's gameplay getting claimed just like UTY's, unless the devs happen to go get a license first (which is unlikely to happen since most fangames don't even publish separate soundtracks). And all of this despite an explicit directive from Toby Fox to allow his music in videos. As nice and well-intentioned as this interview was, it still hides some of the same policies that people initially took issue with. Copyright law isn't going to change, but Materia's enforcement on remix by means of claiming gameplay videos is something they can and should change.
@greap2294
@greap2294 13 днів тому
Love seeing a new video and love that they are just people who seem fed up with the God dam bots.
@EMan-xj5cz
@EMan-xj5cz 13 днів тому
Materia is focused on undertale yellow and stuff but what about the ads on UKposts that use Toby’s music for profit?
@ponfi0275
@ponfi0275 13 днів тому
Materia isn't doing that
@mr.j3rs3y
@mr.j3rs3y 13 днів тому
Okay, I thought i was the only one thinking about this. I swear to god I keep seeing shitty mobile game ads with Bonetrousle playing. I’m assuming Toby wouldn’t like those going around
@CollinHagemeier
@CollinHagemeier 13 днів тому
And literally news sources using them
@MasynLowenstein-vg3oc
@MasynLowenstein-vg3oc 13 днів тому
This video was very helpful With clearing things up With the whole situation, thank you.
@FeliXDev007
@FeliXDev007 13 днів тому
Thanks for making this video to clarify things, it's just what the community needed. And about my comment: Hope it made you laugh and sorry if it was annoying because you were searching for actual questions.
@balookingdomyt
@balookingdomyt 13 днів тому
Hearing official company representatives talking about rather niche Undertale songs and fangames is surreal
@brepi312
@brepi312 13 днів тому
this video is great, i really appreciate you and the interviewer for doing this
@kinggamerkingkylep2227
@kinggamerkingkylep2227 13 днів тому
Interview was surprisingly interesting and educational. I didnt really expect information i would ever possibly use.
@wolfkitty42
@wolfkitty42 13 днів тому
Thanks for this, Cibles. Unfortunately I will most likely miss most of the charity stream, but I wish you luck with it!
@hqTheToaster
@hqTheToaster 12 днів тому
Remember: UKposts's automated system can't count up to 2^16-1
@boneitch
@boneitch 5 днів тому
The idea that the content ID system finds copyrighted material easier on bigger / more popular videos is not true. These checks are done automatically and immediately while uploading. Amazing interview and respect to the company to do this interview
@Qwertyexists
@Qwertyexists 13 днів тому
I don’t care too much but seeing myself in a video is a bit satisfying to me. Thank you so much! Also, my question was answered indirectly by similar questions so cool.
@The-Sniffer-Fox
@The-Sniffer-Fox 9 днів тому
14:37 That thoroughly explains why a news station many years back used Undertale music in part of their segment, it was the track*sans.*which was the BGM.
@MrTda23rd6
@MrTda23rd6 13 днів тому
That is crazy materia asked for an interview
@MihaiZetta
@MihaiZetta 12 днів тому
It's good to hear a measured response after the bad PR from the Twitter threads a few months ago, though I think Jamie and the team missed the mark when shown the LatinAutorPerf claim. As far as I've seen, LatinAutor is a performance collective, but *LatinAutorPerf* is a known copyright troll who has flaunted his abuse of foreign copyright systems to garnish earnings on game music and even go after big targets by claiming copyright to artists' work like Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish.
@orizingaming
@orizingaming 13 днів тому
I'm glad that we finally get some insight on what's going on!
@DJaycerOfficial
@DJaycerOfficial 13 днів тому
If I had known that I needed a license before uploading my music to UKposts I would have waited. Now I have like 90% of my games OST online and I have no way of undoing that really. It does seem that uploading is safer if you’re a small composer but if you want to officially do it, then you go through a publisher. That at least what I’ve taken away from all of this.
@melodyMonger413
@melodyMonger413 13 днів тому
yeah so my general takeaway from this seems to be pretty similar to most peoples. Materia isnt some evil company, theyre just kinda doin their publisher thing, but music copyright law, especially in America and on UKposts sucks, which gets people into trouble sometimes. then Wolff went to talk about what was happenin, but was pretty rude and unprofessional in his statement, which fanned the flames and turned people more against the company as a whole than was necessary.
@MilesProwerUA
@MilesProwerUA 13 днів тому
Can we have THIS guy as the face of Materia? Really, a much more professional response to the problems.
@ObsessiveFanNumber1
@ObsessiveFanNumber1 12 днів тому
Much respect to Jamie for doing this and to Cibles for adding subtitles to the interview! ❤
@SASTSimon
@SASTSimon 13 днів тому
9:38 so what he is saying here ”Dont upload it yourself, instead upload it yourself”
@davidkolbe1214
@davidkolbe1214 10 днів тому
Props to Jamie for doing this interview. There's just one thing that's bugging me about this whole situation. On distribution platforms like DistroKid, the artist has the option to enable Content ID claims on their releases. So if the artist doesn't want the automatic algorithm to flag their music in videos, they can just turn that off. So if Materia has direct access to this system, why can't they just turn it off? Though Jamie said it's something they cannot control, which could be true since we technically still have no idea about the operation of the content ID system, and *maybe* once something is in its database, it cannot be removed. But as a person who had used these distribution services and saw this option, i just thought it's weird that indie artists technically have more control over their music in terms of content matching compared to a music licensing company. But i may be entirely wrong, since i have no insight into the system, it's just something to think about.
@SaturatedScug
@SaturatedScug 12 днів тому
It’s sad how I bet there are many people who aren’t gonna donate no matter how much they love undertale fan games and want them to be supported just because it’s LGBTQ, but maybe that’s just me from how most negative content is sent so far up while the positive content which there may be more of is just barely ever pushed up, eh idk what I’m saying anyways
@centdemeern1
@centdemeern1 13 днів тому
I appreciate the transparency. It sounds like they’re trying their best.
@juliaa__.
@juliaa__. 13 днів тому
The undertale yellow music playing under Jamie introducing himself is giving me high hopes
@pideperdonus2
@pideperdonus2 13 днів тому
Wow, this has cleared up so much! UKposts copyright system is flawed, sadly.
@someone8206
@someone8206 13 днів тому
Thanks for that :D
@Cheesememe822
@Cheesememe822 13 днів тому
Wow I never knew that UKposts claiming system was at shit and after all this time. they still have not fixed it just wow but overall great interview also this should happen way later. I still don’t trust materia the company and Sebastian just going some time for at to happen but definitely trust Jamie and definitely learn lot
@BlaizeCrya
@BlaizeCrya 13 днів тому
You can really tell he’s being legitimate because the company gives their tone in that one segment opposed to his
@Jesterpeach-kf8qb
@Jesterpeach-kf8qb 13 днів тому
No way there's a fan game live stream on April 27th! That's my friends birthday! Man, the 27th's gonna be exiting for me.
@seantaggart7382
@seantaggart7382 13 днів тому
So it seems UKposts! YOU NEED TO STOP!
@kasiervlogs3395
@kasiervlogs3395 10 днів тому
Yep
@supercamborg4218
@supercamborg4218 10 днів тому
Man copyright is kind of a mess
@dvzz6285
@dvzz6285 9 днів тому
the thing is that there are people who uploaded the ost with nothing else and those vids are monetized and still up
@allisonpriolo111
@allisonpriolo111 13 днів тому
The fact that the guy doing the commentary is actually nicer.
@rfurthegamer3412
@rfurthegamer3412 13 днів тому
??? Than who? Sebastian wolf?
@scholotuka9607
@scholotuka9607 13 днів тому
@@rfurthegamer3412 it was so obvious from the start, dude.
@BaldisBloxxin
@BaldisBloxxin 13 днів тому
wow so cool
@Furrypro5
@Furrypro5 13 днів тому
Ikr
@Furrypro5
@Furrypro5 13 днів тому
Ikr
@rfurthegamer3412
@rfurthegamer3412 13 днів тому
Me when I want to be early but don’t know what I want to say:
@spaghettthesomeone9625
@spaghettthesomeone9625 13 днів тому
So cool, so cool, so cool, so cool, so cool, so cool, so cool, so cool, so cool, so cool, so-
@RedemptionPS3
@RedemptionPS3 13 днів тому
So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool So Cool
@333productionsorsmth
@333productionsorsmth 13 днів тому
Wow, and that’s great content
@tozyt
@tozyt 13 днів тому
Alright, here we go.
@Tsunamicat108
@Tsunamicat108 13 днів тому
copyright is a boowomp moment
@sv92233
@sv92233 12 днів тому
bad idea: make a fangame, upload its soundtrack onto youtube by uploading the separate tracks but with a twist (like how the siivagunner team modifies videogame music), fool everyone
@ezequieldom641
@ezequieldom641 13 днів тому
Really nice video
@paulthemailman9915
@paulthemailman9915 9 днів тому
What’s weird about the licensing thing for the yellow team is that they mentioned they use the record company Distrokid. This is weird because distrokid has a very easy interface that makes it super simple to indenting something as a cover instead of an original. While most of the yellow songs can def be seen as originals, i think it would have been smart for the team to treat “Enemy Approaching (yellow) as a cover instead of an original because that is the most similar song they have as well as it being the most common song that got copyright in peoples videos. I’m not going to entirely blame either team tho because hindsight is 20/20 and that song could def be seen differently between different people
@Shugunou
@Shugunou 13 днів тому
Content ID automatically claims videos it detects as using copyrighted media, regardless of the size of the video. They also clearly don't care if it's a remix and don't care if you are a small channel. I was getting constant claims when I only had a few hundred subs. I recently got to 500 subs but I am still a small channel according to UKposts as 500 subs is just the former milestone for the community tab and nothing else. Now that the community tab is available to everyone, it isn't even a milestone at all. So, if what they were saying was true, I shouldn't have been claimed. They also refused to remove any of the claims other than the cover I made of the Smash Bros Ultimate Megalovania (most likely because they didn't want to get in trouble with Nintendo who probably co-owns the remix) even after I both disputed and appealed it. When I emailed them about it, I found out they were automatically denying my appeals without reading them and they said what they were doing was legal because fair use only applies as a defense in court (which makes no sense considering how the DMCA statute is worded). So, I would take everything this guy says with a grain of salt at minimum. Edit: I emailed Sebastian Wolff directly so all of this came from the president of Materia. He was very unprofessional, just like with the creators of Undertale Yellow.
@Killer_sas
@Killer_sas 10 днів тому
@UKposts @UKposts @youtube Appear ya big being, and fix these copyright problems with music.
@A.J.TheRocker9000
@A.J.TheRocker9000 13 днів тому
I’m so glad this interview happened, but man I still don’t like the system all that much. You need to have a license for Remixes and Fan songs to avoid all that is a little crazy to me. Like I understand, but still, doesn’t mean it’s a great system
@Spamkromite
@Spamkromite 11 днів тому
The algorithm is as confusing as the Macro Frog battle lol
@SullyTheLightnerd
@SullyTheLightnerd 13 днів тому
Copy right heck part 2: electric boogaloo
@abdillahahmad7025
@abdillahahmad7025 13 днів тому
For those that didn't realize: this isn't Sebastian Wolff himself but a representative.
@shadowdemonaer
@shadowdemonaer 2 дні тому
Okay. So, I'm 6 minutes in and I'm now understanding it's mostly a UKposts problem instead of a fight with Materia. In which case, I wonder how we can handle this issue. I'll watch to the end. If I have more to say, I'll say more. Edit: Okay, they are easier to deal with than I thought. The explanation on what to do regarding remixes is straightforward, and the explanation on the claims is also understandable. They also have to do with Celeste b-side music especially, so I will just appeal it if they claim my Celeste videos again. I was so angry about Materia that I said all kinds of bad things that you just shouldn't say about people, and it's UKposts being fucking stupid. As always. I really should have known. God FUCKING dammit.
@Kittylover184
@Kittylover184 9 днів тому
comment for an algorithm boost, because it's important that creators see this.
@numerousbees12
@numerousbees12 13 днів тому
*it's about damm time*
@Envexity126
@Envexity126 13 днів тому
Nice video
@hiiiiiii919
@hiiiiiii919 13 днів тому
It's not copyright hell anymore stop giving PTSD with that thumbnail😭 edited: Thanks so much for the video though. It clears up a lot of issues.
@whitesausagedog5392
@whitesausagedog5392 2 дні тому
So basically, Toby being a really nice guy makes things complicated for youtube. LOL
@darkkirby714
@darkkirby714 13 днів тому
you better play the joke build of noisey yellow mod, being doisey blues :troll:
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