Try also Wiktionary, and click on hyperonyms

fun!

this was surprisingly true. I tried doing this from the Fanta Cake article and ended up on 'Existence'

when i tried it it just kept going in a loop at science Edit: its not only at science but also at other things

that's probably because 97% of articles start with the name of a language as the first hyperlink

Royalty free music accompanied unhinged rants are a close second

I swear the light jazz helped me understand it better lol

i didnt even notice it lol

​@aaronnekrin5150 i wonder if school played smooth jazz over a complicated class

I think you'll like the vaporwave music genre. Have fun in that youtube rabbit hole

Nobody else can bear to make one

I like how by mentioning this you got them to fix it lol

@@BadassCat-nl9yk I just checked to see lol. The wiki community is generally pretty swift when it comes to resolving issues that they are made aware of.

@@popcorn8153and now it has almost a dozen references too.

@@BadassCat-nl9yk yeah, they "fixed" it with an ai generated image...

Oh that just ain't fair 😂😂

@@DAMfoxygrampa Well, some people just get luckier than others. A lesson from the french revolution.

​@@echoplots8058 pfffffffffffffft

who would think that france was impacted by the french revolution

I agree that the world was greatly impacted by the French revolution, but it's a very bad way of showing it, given it work with *any* page... It's a know "paradox", there is (almost) always less that 7link between two things: it's almost 100% certain that you know someone that know someone that know someone that know someone that know Jessica Alba (or anyone else). It's the same for wikipedia. It's mathematically proven that you can find *any* page in less that 7clics. Ps: I commented before finishing the video, but it's a good demonstration of the 7links rule. You can clearly see on that bell graph that almost all the articles were linked after 7clics.

honestly, this is something genuinely worth of the name *modern* art

@@DarknessDShadow yeah it looks like paint spilled all over the place so its 100% worth the name of modern art tbh

I was thinking it would be a great poster or graphic for merch to support the creator. But I think you are more on point, that a modern art museum would be an amazing place to display the visual graph and also an interactive version with the concepts explained in the video.

Imagine having this with a UI would be interesting. Letting you cycle through the categories or showing all of an articles specific connections.

​@@electralumen165this is so important!

This video was posted 8 days ago (sent 11 hours after original comment for anybody who's curious in the future)

This comment was made 22 hours after the main comment: The original comment was: I love how almost all dead-end articles you mentioned have no longer been dead-end within a day of this video being uploaded. The second reply to this main comment is: This video was posted 8 days ago (sent 11 hours after original comment for anybody who is curious in the future). My comment: The Great Sun approaches. It grows. It spreads. Faster day by day. One day it shall expand to the point that it has exhausted all of its energy. Then the three inner planets shall be consumed in the fireball and Enceladus shall have liquid water. After mars with its rings shall cry. For three of its friends have died. And the sleeping monster shall fizzle away. And the life on Europa shall freeze and die. You atoms shall be consumed in the fireball. Unless…

This comment was made 2 hours after ​@@gregoryturk1275 's reply. I just want the exact time of the original comment to be documented for no reason in particular

what?

@@micheal5117 yes

I checked them out. Seems they are no longer an orphan comunity, as many links were introduced in the article, like"Englis Politician" and other nonsense. Or maybe I misunderstood the situation completely...

@@zo2oit’s been a month since the video. It’s been updated

Thank you for your service Wikipedia is one of humanities greatest creations

also editing my language version of wikipedia and I'm just curious - was there a reason why you stopped?

I second this

Now that's something that will sorta reflect the human knowledge base and how we evolved to an even tighter better connected world.

I'm in

Signed

Should run continously to see how it changes continously.

I did not know that I had a single thought about Fanta Cake . . . BUTT . . . NOW That You Mention It . . . blah . . . Blah . . . B L A H !

And obviously they were both wrong and I should edit it 😂 Fanta cake the choice of the nazis

So have the Acton family articles.

The observation of the phenomenon changes the results…

@@ACOUSTITRON-mp6tc Same with Veritasium's 37 video

Lmao typical german, he wants to make clear that he's from germany. Writes fantakuchen despite being able to write everything else in english, then donauwelle and then the pretentious applause. All germans are the same, I have no idea why the chauvinism.

Big Jon Bois vibes for sure.

It's ok...I'm here now.

no the video is for nerds

i thought it already had like 7m views

Wake it up then lol

It brought me here.

good idea!

But most Wikipedia races already take 20+ clicks so having a minimum of 10 clicks won’t really change much

i have a feeling that trying to calculate that would quickly turn into the traveling salesman problem

@@ameltedTSP is a completely different problem; to find pages 10 degrees of separation or greater, you could just use a breadth-first search, similar to what he showed in the video when analyzing degrees of separation. This is possible in polynomial time (I believe O(n^2) in the worst case, but feel free to correct me if it's wrong; it most certainly is polynomial, however).

@@ReliableExcavationDemolitionyeah and you probably take 20 clicks to bridge a 4th degree or so relation. Just because you didn’t personally find the shortest link doesn’t mean it’s the shortest link. 10 degrees or more would be absolutely brutal for a human

My bedsheet already looks like this but for another reason 😂

@@lolicacilyourismaniacopitelius🤨

Agree!

Many maps are useless until you have the key.

lol same, im wondering how many days it took to run the visualization. Not to mention editing any errors notes 😅

I completely agree, but I actually watched the video with one main question, which I believe didn't get answered: How are the articles or regions positioned on the X and Y axis on the graph?

@@H2-HQ There are no X and Y axis on a graph, you can arrange nodes in any way you like

Honestly, I studied network graphs as part of my PhD, this analysis was better and more interesting that 99% of them for aure.

For real! We love visionary data nerds!

A study of about 1/10th of wikipedia

@@sprgeorge333 honestly i did too and this is NOT more interesting or intelligent than any of the papers i read.

​@@sprgeorge333 this is more interesting than my bachelors thesis on github collaboration networks xd

The image is 19200 x 10800 btw. 4K is 3840 x 2160

@@007i1 awesome, is there a link?

@@chigginheadD No i just looked at the code

It must have changed since the video was made, also it has changed back since you posted your comment

​@@mathematicskid This made me curious, so I checked the history page for "Pennsylvania Route 999". It has only been edited once since 2022, which was about 2 weeks ago, on April 8, 2024: after this video came out, but before OP's comment. This was an edit from user Nikitan3096 that removed a link to "List of highways numbered 999" from the "See also" section. So this path wasn't available in the graph because it didn't include "See also" links, and now it's not available at all because the link was removed.

I think this is not what he meant, is not that the shortest path from "Athletics at the 1953 Arab Games" to "List of highways numbered 999" was 166, but rather the longer, meaning you couldn't find a longer path between those two articles without looping

@@marcoshayman8535 I don't think so. It's supposed to be the longest "shortest possible path" if that makes sense.

It was in "See also" section which is excluded by rules explained in video

I hope that this causes people to add links to orphans and dead ends.

It will probably be included in our internal newspaper the signpost.

Maybe you should lift a finger instead of asking others to do it

@@herpederpe4320 no offense, but if I was a Wikipedia editor I would be part of the problem

@@herpederpe4320 not everyone is cut out to be a Wikipedia editor. the folks who're self-aware of this fact thus respect Wikipedia and-in a way-help it by not breaking anything

" This is your brain . . . " < sizzle . . . > " And this is your brain on wikipedia . . . " B---)

but only after understanding what it is

@@solarnaut My brain isn’t famous enough to be on Wikipedia 😋

It's like a galaxy map of humanity.

@@yonaoisme not really, I find it beautiful as a work of art, but knowing that it’s actually a data graph with millions of nodes makes it SOOO much better!

We called it the „Hitler game“ because that was always the desired page 💀

I used to play "6+ degrees"...you'd get two pages, and have to connect them. Hard mode was no "philosophy."

Did you watch the video? He explains the game in the video, specifically! Like, it's the whole reason the video exists XD

@@calvinmills4069 I must've zoned out on that part, lol. Cause all i was thinking about since clicking the thumb nail was "the Wikipedia game, the Wikipedia game, the Wikipedia game", so I probably just missed it

@@calvinmills4069 What was the timestamp on that?

What was the most interesting video you watched 6 years ago?

@@sa88 That is a great question

why exactly 6

we are wondering bro

what was the last one

Didicated.

Dictated.

Wrestlers articles used to be similar… and then it was hijacked by an asshole mod on Wikipedia who wanted users to use their shitty wikia for their information. Wrestler articles used to have their movesets, their finishers, their entrance songs, etc.

The same for alpine ski racers at the World Cup level. I don't know about the other snow sports sanctioned by FIS.

​@@vcom741 Isn't that more appropriate for a specific Wiki than Wikipedia? The latter just tells you what wrestling is.

Trying it now, my first try unfortunately got stuck in Telecommunications Network Node

I remember doing this!!! I didn't hear about it from anywhere I just clicked the first article link (non pronunciation or disambiguation) and I always always ended up at philosophy where it recursed!!!

Part of the reason is that a couple of people found this fact, then checked it. The 1% that didn't end on philosophy where changed to end at philosophy.

Holy shit it actually worked. It still works to this day

I remember when I discovered this a killjoy had cut the link between knowledge and philosophy and broke the chain. Then they would revert any edits that added the link back

We'll be doing well for them to get regular charts back working first.

The computing involved with an interactive, LIVE version of this would be...non-trivial to maintain.

There already is something very similar already.

I could see a tool like this being particularly useful for cleanup. Those "highways numbered 9xx" articles could probably be consolidated.

@@AL-lh2ht which is?

its super easy. hes completely exaggerating . for visualization of very big graphs you can use gephi which is open source and you can also use it without the gui and run it on servers with multiple nodes, so it does NOT take forever to compute like he claims.

Sound like chatgpt output 😂

@@euli_mo Well, it’s not.

ChatGPT ahh comment

​@@theoverreactor8731it's not, there is a ponctuation error. Why would he use ChatGPT anyways?

@@euli_mo so anyone who can put together three sentences that aren't basic af sounds like chatgpt, ok then

Completely irrelevant. What matters is China

@@Ps5prolite OK grandpa, go take your meds.

I mean, yea. Tim horton is a famous hockey player so its pretty much impossible for it not to link to hockey.

@@MrMickio1 Someone tells a joke. This guy: "That is factually accurate."

@@MrMickio1So famous I’ve literally never heard of them. I didn’t even know they were a genuine person until this thread! (Then again, that could just be a logical side effect of my complete lack of interest in sports in general, and the complete lack of TH outlets anywhere near where I live!)

It's gorgeous, i hope he uploaded it to wikimedia commons

I would genuinely print it out and put it up on my wall

Great visualisation! Would like to put it on my wall as food for thought poster.

THEY FORGOT PHYSICS MATH BIOLOGY CHEMISTRY AND ALL OTHER SUBJECTS THAT ARE NORMALLY VERY THOUGHT BASED

"What's on your wall?" "Oh nothing, just Wikipedia"

My first thought too - this video is 5 days old, no way those Acton family articles are still their own group. Sure enough. ;)

While those Acton links seem a bit forced to me, They did also link them to bailiff and Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Which they always should've been.

real

Solitude?

Fanta cakestic

Longest path is an NP-hard problem, it would take an absurd amount of time on a graph like this.

I went backwards from 825 and found 530 and it goes down from there

The path he found also starts with a small chain too, stepping through the articles, "Athletics at the [year] Arab games".

like a highway

just start at number 1 and end up at 999

This is even more impressive. He talks about something I've seen done to dead by lots of other people (see his cheeky reference to mildly interesting reddit) and it's still new and fresh to me. I almost don't watch this article but when I finally budge and I don't regret it.

Update: the fanta cake article is no longer a dead end, and now has 15 links.

Is googlewhacking an orphan an indictable offense?

im pretty sure people took the opportunity to ruin them, no longer making them orphaned, spoiling the fun, but seems you have a brighter outlook

Reminds me of one of my favorite paper titles, something like: "Object Personification in Autism; this paper will be very sad if you don't read it." I heard about this paper from Bettina Levy's channel, she read out some tumblr posts about it. (I commented about it somewhere else months ago and still get notifications that I'm getting likes lol 😅). I'm glad these wikipedia editor volunteers are finding these poor orphaned articles some lovely links to care for them 🥺

​@@Noway-sg8md New articles are being written everyday many are orphans and dead ends. I feel the fun is in the way it lives. It grows and expans as everyday people see something and decide to add it to the ever growing library. It's a sense of comunity and learning that is rare these days.

​@@Noway-sg8mdand the most pessimistic comment in the entire history of youtube is this comment. Wouldn't that make it more accessible

@@cheesechess-tr7pd Yeah I agree, that's a sad way to see things

Fantakuken wallpaper

good luck with 1:36

*DISGUISED DEAD END ORPHAN* 18:39

​@@davisjian8250id wear that

10:41 wallpaper

"f" for Fantakuchen😢

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO 😭😭😭😭

​@luiskerscher5047 don't worry, I checked and fantakuchen still exists. Only the link to fantakuchen in the fanta cake page has been removed.

@@maksrambe3812 Thank you, thats one issue off of my list. Well appreciated!

we should call this process adoption💀

I was thinking that creating a graph database of this data might make for an interesting project.

your feelings are irrational

@@Fire_Axus everyone's feelings are irrational, it came free with being a human

I agree, I really wanted to see it graphed and I got to see it!

I wish social media, especially platforms other than UKposts, had more fascinating stuff like this. I want to experience that childlike curiosity again!

Seriously, he totally downplays the significance of what he's accomplished with this graph. There are so many fascinating insights here, not just about Wikipedia, but English-speaking culture.

Why would you say that? I wanted to understand your perspective 🤔

long-time wikipedia editor here. There have existed entire projects which have tried to eliminate orphan and dead end articles. At least for orphan articles I believe there are hidden categories that flag them. I think the OP could've made use of Wikiprojects in order to link related articles together instead of just using outbound links, though I guess that if his analysis is based on the wikipedia game that it makes sense why he wouldn't. Wikiprojects already give you something similar to his idea of "communities" of articles

@@redcoat4348 A more pressing problem is correction of false information.

Why eliminate orphans and dead ends? The entire internet is not just wikipedia links.

@@drbuckley1 Won't ever be fixed. People try, and I salute them for it. Wikipedia is a guidebook not an answer book. Wikipedia usually gives enough of an overview, correct or incorrect, to start looking up information elsewhere. Trying to make it an answer book is impossible.

Before I even finished the video, I went to check on the Actons and found one of the pages edited an hour ago, adding more links. RIP community 42

He also has BDE

i had the exact same reaction, i love rugby

Same with norwegian politics... on english wikipedia and I checked, it's very fleshed out.

same importance as category 42, 4 members of the former british parliament as an orphan group

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And what is so special about Norwegian politicians versus the politicians of 200 other countries? It seems quite bizarre!

Honestly I can see this getting millions lmao.

It could get way more but I personally think he really missed the mark with the thumbnail and title choice.

As a member of the thousands club I don't doubt the video could get 100,000 views given enough time

@@BombsanTheCommenter ye, its a very unique and interesting video

@@pepsalt It's also culturally significant and important. We few can say, I remember when that had only 3000 views!

That's brilliant!

I've commented this on another comment as well, but what about a page "List of Wikipedia Orphan Articles"! Same can be done for "List of Wikipedia Dead End Articles" lol

list of every wikipedia page

@@lajawi2115 Both of those pages already exist! The reason orphan articles don't become automatically un-orphaned from being in that list is because the list is not in the "main" Wikipedia space, but a special section of Wikipedia that has editing guides and the likes, and so it doesn't really count as a link

Good point!

That seems like a given because if that weren’t the case almost any article could loop forever between 2 or 3 things. If you consider the path as not being able to repeat pages, that would likely be several million articles long.

@@somedude4832 That'd also be the most nightmare-inducing Hamiltonian path problem possible

yea, but also to actually find the longest shortest past and not just guess that it was the 166 one shouldn t he had just picked a random page, do a bfs, go to the the page which was the farthest away and do a bfs again? And do it for all conex components

I'm actually kinda interested in the path since "list of highways numbered 1000" and "list of highways numbered 999." point at each other. If I'm not making a mistake this implies the same length from the start to either "list of highways numbered 998" and "list of highways numbered 1000." otherwise the path would be shorter or going to the next article would be a longer shortest path.

Why do you have 3 furaffinity accounts

what is wrong with you

Why are you a broken human being

>Springing a leak

>Sparkly skunk mascot~

there's a website that does this for any link

It's also no longer in isolation, Well, okay, as far as I could find it's still impossible to get in, But you can get out of the community now.

Unexpected intersection of Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy and Fast & Furious 😄

​@@johannesandersson9477Is that how many of those films there is now? 😂

"What do you get if you multiply six by nine?"

@@dielaughing73 69?

You mean the one where you need to search for links to get you to a goal article? You can cheat by editing the original article and adding the link to the goal article

@@badgermcbadger1968 why would you though?

@@Laezar1 because i find it boring and it's pretty funny the first time

@@badgermcbadger1968 you don't have to play a game you find boring though xD you can just tell your friends no, it's not like it's a tournament with prize money on the line or anything, all you'll get by cheating is break the trust of your friends. Idk that just seems like a really strange and low stake situation to cheat in.

the problem with this game is most articles are some random weird stuff like list of something or a village, if there was a fillterted version where only articles that are like concepts or some important stuff like country existed, then it would make sense, but also like each article should have atmost 10 hyperlinks that link to stuff that is rly related

That would be super awesome

would be cool if the data was on a website to browse

Well, now the Actons are not an orphan group anymore.

You might like emergent phenomenon and universality of dynamical system

The idea of an intergalactic rouge star is kinda terryfing. Like, how did it even get there?? Why did it just get lost. Is it just incredibly ancient and has just always been there since the beginning of the universe? Or did some ungodly cataclysmic event rip it out of it's galaxy? How do you even rip a star out of it's own galaxy?? It's easy to imagine rouge planets. You hear about them all the time. Galaxies are relatively dense so it's easy to imagine how a passing star could rip a planet out of it's home system. But even then, rouge planets still exist within their own galaxies. What ungodly apocalyptic catastrophe has to occur for a star to end up in intergalactic space???

​@@qwertydavid8070It's actually pretty dull. They just get to close to a supermassive blackhole at a wrong angle, and they're sent flying off!

@@a2izzard It's still crazy that their sent flying off all the way into intergalactic space. Galaxies are humongous, you'd think that along the way the star would eventually get attracted by the gravitational pull of the galaxy itself. Then again, for as big as they are, galaxies are still mostly empty. It's like how neutrinos can seemingly phase through matter. They are just so tiny that things that appear solid to us just aren't to them. The gaps between atoms are like the gaps between planets at that scale. I guess stars are just so tiny when compared to an entire galaxy that they can just pass through without interacting with anything.

Now it’s almost 2000, I think the same. This is going to explode soon

@@lucasklein448 5.600 and counting! EDIT: +3.600 in 3h

12k four hours after 2k comment. It's coming!

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