I Spent a Day with the BMW i4 and Model 3 - Who Comes out on Top?
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3 місяці томуThe BMW i4 really surprised me as an excellent electric sedan. In this video I compare it to the Tesla Model 3.
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@Gjeebs 3 місяці тому
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@DavidRamsey1 3 місяці тому
Don't know if anyone said it, but decibels are on a logarithmic scale. A difference of 10dB is equal to a 10X difference in intensity of sound. As you assumed, it's not linear. Hence the difference between 55dBA and 60 dBA is 60 has 3.17 higher intensity of sound. That said, a normal household refrigerator generates about 55dBA and a normal fully occupied business office or a conversation between two people sitting one meter apart is about 60dBA. Neither is particularly objectionable, but 55dBA is noticeably quieter.
@chrisnchips 2 місяці тому
Would appreciate a i5 comparison to Model S if you can get your hands on one. Love your vids!
@mini2nut67 2 місяці тому
We have 2021 Model Y and recently test drove the BMW I4 35. The ride quality difference and interior noise levels are night and day apart. The BMW fit and finish was top notch as well. I inspected the entire interior and exterior with a fine tooth comb and found zero flaws. The panel fitment and paint quality was flawless. The BMW just felt bank vault tight compared to our Y that has rattles and bangs when driving over bumps. The refreshed Y can’t come soon enough as it’s aging fast against the competition in its segment.
@craighermle7727 Місяць тому
ANd depending upon where you live and your CCS fast changing requirements, you might get very upset.
@macdds 18 днів тому
That is based upon mere mechanical point of view. In terms of software technology point of view, the BMW is nothing short of being retarded compared to any Tesla.
@danielstehura9657 18 днів тому
You Cannot compare your old 2021 to a new BMW! The Electrical systems are inferior! The wind noise coming off the side mirrors is rubbish engineering! Good luck when it’s out of warranty! BMWs are notorious for falling apart after the warranty. The front end of the BMW is not aerodynamic. If you want a dumb macho electric car, go ahead by the BMW. It has no charging infrastructure.! The computer system is garbage in the BMW. It will guide you to broken chargers that you have to insert your credit card in each time you get charge! The new model Y juniper is going to be out in a year and it’s gonna blow the doors off and BMW on the planet! BMW’s have always been driven by yuppies!
@danielstehura9657 18 днів тому
Rubbish BMW
@Skyking6976 15 днів тому
I thought the ride in Teslas was suppose to be much improved in ‘23 or this year…no?
@officialyasir 3 місяці тому
I am glad you did this review with the old Model 3, it gives us a baseline. Looking forward to seeing your Model 3 Highland review. I like the i4 too, much nicer overall.
@Gjeebs 3 місяці тому
Yea I have the new model 3 on order so it will be here soon!
@GuNzTaa 3 місяці тому
This review didn't make sense, as all the Model 3 for sale are updated. Model 3 2024 is way better than i4. Only people that care a lot about the interior will prefer the i4
@LookItsDev 2 місяці тому
@@GuNzTaa So the only people that care about the way the car looks on the inside, where they sit along with their passengers, will like the i4? The inside of the car is a massive portion of the car. What a stupid argument.
@petebrown6356 2 місяці тому
@@GuNzTaa"way better" how? Because of more charging stations? Ok...that's important but only a single factor. I *hate* the single touchscreen display for everything in the Tesla. You take your eyes off the road for way too long. On the BMW, you can see an option you want, three selections down, then just rotate the haptic controller "click, click, click, push" and know you've selected it - without looking at the screen. The Tesla is put to shame on the interior and there's loads of science baked into the BMW interior respective to driver distraction. It's as though Tesla doesn't care at all.
@hotrod182 Місяць тому
@@GuNzTaai4 is way better. Better looking, avail advanced HUD, laser lights, adaptive air suspension, more luxurious and not as common as a Corolla. And you aren't stuck driving a Tesla. Consumer Reports: BMW #1, JD Power EV experience winner:i4. Car And Driver 75mph test: In that test the i7 beat its EPA and did 310miles, which tied the other top performer Lucid Air. But the Lucid was EPA rated at 76 miles more than the BMW and only tied it. On Consumer reports 70mph test, the 271 mi EPA i4 did 318 miles. At 70mph! Tesla always disappoints.😊
@stevehampton1130 3 місяці тому
@gjeebs Regarding sound db measurements: A 1 dB change in a sound equates to about a 26% difference in sound energy (remember that a 3 dB difference is a doubling of energy levels) I also did a review on these two vehicles on my channel and found the delta to be the similar.
@brandonb8242 3 місяці тому
What kind of car seat do you have? My wife and I have a model 3 and Y. Trying to move from an infant car seat (nuna) to possibly a convertible one.
@nberkel 3 місяці тому
Don't forget that BMW also had the i3 (later becoming the Mini Cooper SE) which they put a lot of R&D into through the lifecycle. So they have two long term EVs to build off of...
@300rivers4 3 місяці тому
Infrastructure has always been my gripe about charging. I live in the midwest and it seems many third party chargers are often off-line, very temperamental or simply don't work at any given time. It's frustrating and has the potential to put a driver in a dangerous situation or at the very least an expensive one. I am currently driving an i3 and will get the refreshed M3 performance when it makes its debut or the long range later in the year. Another thing that bugs me is that a lot of people still don't get how to charge. I've seen people put their car on a fast charger, call a buddy, then leave for an hour or so when there are level 2 chargers at the same location.
@Bb-br3xg 3 місяці тому
Need to do a highland test now! Build quality, ride quality, and noise are much better than our 22 model 3. Great video as always and the i4 is a great car as well
@MB-xx7qh Місяць тому
Great review and comparison of both models.
@worldtrav72 3 місяці тому
Agree. Love the i4, esp w/ the hatch, but bought the Tesla as it was about 60% of the i4 price (tax break) with the only charging network that actually works in US and continuing improvements over time. Maybe I’ll get a used i4 in 2-3 years.
@catbert7 2 місяці тому
Unfortunately, the hatch is literally the only advantage the i4 has over the new Highland Model 3, while the Tesla has all these: $17k cheaper, BEFORE OPTIONS (see below) +40 mile range, at the mid-trim. Much higher safety scores from Euro NCAP (and i4 is not even tested in the US, somehow... wtf) 21 cubic feet of storage vs the i4's 10... Screen in back Better voice controls 360 camera coverage, and playback, vs the i4's single backup camera Better app, driver-assist, infotainment, and other software FSD Beta as an option And all these standard, which are extra-cost options on the i4: Heated Seats, Ventilated Seats, Adaptive Headlights, Wireless phone charging, Heated steering wheel, Lumbar controls, Adaptive cruise control...
@worldtrav72 2 місяці тому
@@catbert7 std BMW depreciation will bring cars with those features into price range soon enough. For sure, Highland could be a much better buy for new car option. I’ll take one for a test drive this spring.
@jlrguy2702 3 місяці тому
Basically, 3db means there is double the sound pressure, 10db would feel like it's twice as loud. you can easily tell that something with an additional 3db is considerably louder. I'd agree with this totally I love my Model Y performance, but it's not that quiet, especially on the motorway.
@cmac9710 3 місяці тому
Why didn't you just wait and do the BMW vs Model 3 Highland??
@lplt 3 місяці тому
this was recorded before it was announced, takes sometime to edit the videos so were weeks behind real time
@8bajwa8 3 місяці тому
Then he need to wait for next gen bmw.
@KP-xi4bj 2 місяці тому
@@8bajwa8There is no "next gen bmw". Nobody buys BMW BEVs. All I see are Teslas. LOL
@user-my4xu4gf1z 2 місяці тому
The new model 3 looks even worse then the regular model 3. It looks like an AI generated car. So plain jane and basic. No unique lines or anything to make it look sporty. The front looks like a Chinese fish. Still has no luxury at all. Still no HUD or gauge clusters u have to look down and at ur ipad for everything. Nothing feels special about its interior or exterior. So dull
@KP-xi4bj 2 місяці тому
@@user-my4xu4gf1zHave you sat in one let alone driven one? Plenty of reviews worldwide say it has upped the interior quality. But go ahead and keep on hating Tesla because Tesla will continue build more vehicles in 2024. 2022: 1.31M Teslas 2023: 1.81M Teslas 2024: >1.81M Teslas LMFAO SMH
@nealpatel5556 3 місяці тому
Any plans to test drive the refresh model 3? It’s in Cali so if you have the time and energy, you could do a Rivian roadtrip and test drive 👀. Win win!
@zerohecks4864 3 місяці тому
Saw a young guy trying to see if he could charge his Kia at a supercharger at state line in Vegas. Couldn’t charge, headed back to the strip, saw him on the side of the road 30 min later. RIP
@uutube243 3 місяці тому
Exactly to my point as I’m in vegas also. There is zero charging infrastructure here. I know of ONE working 48kw charger on st rose parkway. All the others in parking ramps that work are 6.6kw. I’ll say again if you don’t have a level 2 charger in YOUR garage you DONT buy an EV. How long will it take this country to understand this?
@willielarsson9651 2 місяці тому
Tesla drivers have access to tesla and non tesla chargers, but they moan when Elon opens up some chargers to all cars
@danielstehura9657 4 дні тому
Korea wants money without spending on infrastructure! Fk them
@Robin-es3os 3 місяці тому
Gjeebs, can you do a review on a new base model s. I have not found one good review out there and love the things you talk about in your reviews.
@user_z01 3 місяці тому
Buddy of mine from work were both gonna get model Ys come 2024. I bought an MYP (love it) but he betrayed the plan and bought the i4. Q1 strategy meeting is coming up soon and i think we'll switch cars for lunch.
@obieWanmotivation 2 місяці тому
My buddy has the MYP on 22inch wheels and we exchanged with my i4 M50. He bought his before the price drop so the prices were fairly similar. You already know which car we both agreed on. The BMW is a different driving experience overall.
@rwjr1944 3 місяці тому
Rule of thumb (approximate) for every 3 db increase the sound doubles in volume. The truth is more complicated but...
@Teddy_M85 3 місяці тому
I heard that, too... Frameless windows and lightweight materials don't help. I'm sure the new M3 will be better, but due to Teslas' efficiency and cost goals, it will always fall short compared to the BMW and MB of the world. Price will be the differentiator.
@bertcattoor480 2 місяці тому
Sound level is a complex matter. +5 dB is twice the power, but not twice as loud. It represents about a 25% increase in loudness. +10 dB would be a doubling. You'd definitely perceive -5dB as quieter. Those are nice figures for both cars actually.
@gregb7353 3 місяці тому
Every 3db is double the "noise". Of course this isn't the full picture. Tom Scott has a great video on "loudness" and how difficult it is to quantify and this is really what matters. You're subjective analysis of it on the same day back-to-back is probably the best test.
@fkporsche1 3 місяці тому
You are smart. No comment on addressing the Tesla Model 3. Tesla lab top on wheel. 😅. I had GT3RS, GT4, c63s but I love my M3p over those German cars. My model 3P Quick, Convenient, efficient and I charged my M3P at home. Retired now. Tesla work for me. I sold my cayenne S for model X Lovin it.
@escueme 3 місяці тому
I'm 5'12" 😂
@ankita209 3 місяці тому
I repeated that twice. Paused the video and reflected deeply on that 😂
@lmao1793 2 місяці тому
I have to replay it cause WHAT 😂
@paologuiotto2344 Місяць тому
What is the sense of comparing a car slightly above 42k EUR with one that you can have for 60kE (that is +50% of price)?
@BogeyTheBear 3 місяці тому
2:26 There's no way those diffusers are functional. Not enough surface area to catch and slow down the underbody air. 8:17 That's the seat belt warning chime. 11:25 The 19" wheels will rob you of 10% range, so take 25 miles off. I have an E40 model with the 19s so the original range estimate of 300 miles is whittled to 280 in real-world driving experience (though that may have improved if I decided to use Eco mode at all!) 16:19 Good call. I turned Lane Assist off soon as I got it (too many false positive alerts), and I don't experience any darting sensation at all. 21:28 It's not the motor you have to worry about in such circumstances-- it's the tires. EVs put down a lot of torque through the wheels, and it does so by pushing through literal tons of sheer weight. Drive like a maniac and you're going to be replacing tires like crazy.
@MrMikeAllen 3 місяці тому
need a Gjeebs review of the Cadillac Lyriq
@ucankurbaga Місяць тому
Well to get equivalent spec that comes with tesla model 3 you need to add a lot of extras to bmw i4 (including that adaptive cruise control) you looking like $27k difference between them
@usmcsaxoki 3 місяці тому
Another good review, sir.
@Gjeebs 3 місяці тому
Thank you!
@frozencold199 3 місяці тому
Ive test driven both of these, the interior on the BMW is seriously a step up over the model 3 but when I test drove the BMW I was seriously disappointed with the acceleration, it really taps out after 40mph, just does not have the pull I wanted for an electric vehicle. The suspension on the BMW is far ahead of tesla too
@bitcoinman9202 3 місяці тому
I disagree the interior felt dated like my ice cars, but suspension was softer. I sort of prefer a tighter suspension often though, but maybe not all the time
@Gjeebs 3 місяці тому
You could get the M50 which is very quick but then it costs a lot more. I agree the interior feels a lot better
@bitcoinman9202 3 місяці тому
@@Gjeebs really I don’t like all the buttons. Annoying lol . My other ice cars have HUD too I am like you its distracting as hell
@logtec1162 3 місяці тому
Audi has same problems, the E-tron and E-tron GT also have so shitty pull, e-tron has some crazy lag also. Teslas pull so hard VS these germans, don’t know why. Yes interior are little better, but they just don’t accelerate like they should. For the price I will pick Tesla any day.
@SSY86374 3 місяці тому
U didn't test the m50.
@cerdafiedDeveloper 3 місяці тому
19:53 For those wondering about decibels and how it relates linearly here you go… Each 10-decibel increase corresponds to a tenfold increase in sound intensity. So, if you go from 50 to 60 decibels, it’s not a 10% increase - it’s actually 10 times more intense sound. The logarithmic nature reflects our perception of sound, where small changes in decibels represent larger changes in how we perceive loudness.
@Gjeebs 3 місяці тому
Thank you
@jluis333 2 місяці тому
Good points on the cars. But when on a trip those superchargers do make a difference. I've been there
@Skyking6976 15 днів тому
We’ve had the BMW i3 “concept” EV for 2.5 years and the range has always been higher than promised except a few days in mid Atlantic winter. I think they do they to guarantee making the promised battery life.
@christianwilhite83 3 місяці тому
Great video! We recently traded our Model 3 LR for a new i4 M50. Your pros/cons for each car are spot on. For us, we greatly prefer the i4. There's no comparison for the build and ride quality. Disclaimer: We pretty much only charge at home, so the charging network doesn't factor in for us.
@Gjeebs 3 місяці тому
Yea the charging network would be my main concern but if you don't need it you're fine.
@stevehampton1130 3 місяці тому
Same here, We also bought the i4 edrive 40 It is an Amazing vehicle in every aspect compared to the model 3.
@rohanjosem 3 місяці тому
man this has got to be the dumbest shit ive seen all day im using AU prices but it still makes a point i4 m50 134k model 3 LR 71k and the bmw price is probbaly before your little dealership takes their cut yeah i would really HOPE there was no comparison for a car that costs almost double the amount what in the absolute fuck LIKE WHAT LMAO
@obieWanmotivation 2 місяці тому
Yep. I bought the i4 M50 in August last year after a 10 month wait and it has been worth the wait. I charge over 95% at home and the car is fairly energy efficient for it's power & weight and lots of fun.
@paulterry8373 27 днів тому
I drove both, bought the BMW...... Just so much higher quality materials, fit and finish, and it drives so well. Don't get me wrong, I like the Tesla, it's a nice drive, seamless tech integration, but for me I want a car, and I like quality, so BMW was an easy win. On my i4, when I change drive modes the range forecast changes immediately, e.g I am in eco pro mode, range is 300 kms, change to sport mode, the range forecast will drop to 275 kms immediately, and will increase when go back to eco pro.................... Great car, my first EV, very happy with it
@gregdi8730 3 місяці тому
I like the i4 a lot actually, I think it’s nice looking and premium, and range is good (if accurate). Price is a little steeper but this seems more premium to me. The only thing I’m surprised at is that as they have been doing EVs longer than others like Mercedes, I don’t understand why this feels like it’s just an EV platform dropped on top of their standard 4 series platform… why not repackage and improve with a separate platform, so you can have things like a frunk. Seems shortsighted to me but overall I like the i4.
@craighermle7727 Місяць тому
Welll because that is exactly what it is.
@Skyking6976 15 днів тому
Too bad our lil BMW i3 was a proof of concept car in a way. They gave engineers money to build an EV from scratch. Flat floorboard for one told me this was a build from scratch car.
@nathanmacht1840 3 місяці тому
New subscriber. Great videos. Can you do a video on your MYLR pillar delete wrap? I saw your video when you got rid of gender reveal wrap and the newer road trip video with the delete wrap.
@Gjeebs 3 місяці тому
Here is the video on it: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/bmWaaq-eqWpps40.html
@bludshotta 3 місяці тому
17:06 the dog thing.... 💯🔥 I also love dogs, but people do all this codependency stuff and then wonder why their dogs have anxiety issues. They trained their dog to!
@gabem8119 3 місяці тому
I have a model 3 and i40, I’ve never used any of the lower kw chargers in store parking lots, anything under 50 isn’t worth it unless you’re really low on charge. I took a few hour drive to the beach last summer and the BMW did well and had a little bit more charge than the 3 did when we got to the beach. The suspension is a lot softer too, my 3 has coil overs and I keep them about 5 clicks from soft all around but it’s still a bit stiffer ride than the BMW. BTW you can get sentry cam for the BMW but it’s extra, not sure but I think it only uses 1 forward facing cam and probably the rear backup cam only.
@deandre1988 3 місяці тому
Yeah that extra 600$ for sentry and another 600$ for the improved alarm system, whatever that means.
@noorghani5053 3 місяці тому
In the settings u can do sides as well.
@petebrown6356 2 місяці тому
There's a reason the haptic controller exists in the BMW, I don't recall you using it. It helps you to control the infotainment while allowing you to keep eyes on the road more. It's been around for decades and is a proven means of lowering the time you spend looking at the screen. A touchscreen requires you to look at it the entire time you're touching options. On the Tesla everything requires touch navigation, everything through a single screen - I *hate* that, much longer time with eyes on the screen. Tesla's have a higher incident rate....maybe this is why(?).
@willielarsson9651 2 місяці тому
You can reduce the lane change sensitivity
@Teddy_M85 3 місяці тому
Great, honest review... It all comes down to price difference, IMO. Tesla has better tech, performance, and SC network, and BMW has better quality materials. Also, if the cost of ownership is important, both cars would be expensive to repair out of warranty, but I bet the BMW would be far more expensive due to its complexity.
@BogeyTheBear 3 місяці тому
Tesla would be more expensive by the fact the company doesn't utilize a supplier chain and makes all components in-house. Meaning that you're waiting for the factory to get around and make whatever replacement component you'll need to repair the Tesla. This is the crux of Tesla's infamous service reputation where new body panel is automatically a five-figure repair bill and it takes months for new parts to show up at the repair center.
@chrisengletx 3 місяці тому
i'm on my second tesla- first was a 2019 and now a new Model S. I've NEVER had issues with parts not available. Also the parts are actually pretty reasonable. I whacked my front air dam on a curb and they replaced the whole piece including labor for $900. Way less than I thought. Tesla maintenance centers are HUGE and well stocked.. everythign from windshields to electronics. We also have a new-ish gas Mercedes GL and the local MB dealer is way worse on ordering parts and stuff. @@BogeyTheBear
@CMCNestT 3 місяці тому
Everyone save Stellantis has signed up for the Supercharger Network. BMW drivers will have access to the Supercharger Network by the end of year. The only disadvantage for BMW drivers is they won't have access for a couple of months vs buying a Tesla.
@davesax11 25 днів тому
My i4 is 1 1/2 years old. Still consider it the best car I've ever owned. My first non manual too in MANY years. The Tesla was proof of concept but is now way overdue for replacement. Problems for the i4 are the range and charging network, so no more road trips for now. When its time to replace our ICE car, will get a plug in hybrid - if its a hatchback with sufficient brake regen for one pedal driving - which gives the control of a manual. At the time I purchased, credits were available on both cars, and the i4 was not that much more expensive than the Model 3 or Kia EV6. + a real dealer support network.
@AaronStarks 3 місяці тому
You don't have to tell the BMW to condition the battery if you're going to charge. It's setting you toggle to do it automatically as soon as you set to navigate to a charger. I owned a 2022 Model S and I now own a 2023 BMW iX. I'd say the tech is equal between the two with some advantages for both. This practiced myth of "Tesla has the better tech" is just memorized tropes people repeat.
@cpreid 3 місяці тому
💯 good insight
@cpreid 3 місяці тому
How does the range display accuracy compare between the two?
@stevehampton1130 3 місяці тому
Completely Accurate! I own a BMW 2023 i4 couldn’t agree more
@obieWanmotivation 2 місяці тому
@@cpreid I can only speak for the BMW. The range estimator is pretty close to its estimate but it depends on the driver. When you are low on range, adjust your driving to maintain the estimated miles.
@Techning 13 днів тому
Prices are completely different here in Germany. In fact the BMW is available for about 45k € which is the same starting price as a Model 3 Standard Range. Of course you would need to add some extras to the BMW but the difference is not that big in other regions outside US. In the end it comes down to preference imo. Tesla is much more fancy but if you choose the BMW you know what you will get. A solid & high quality car. Or in other words: Teslas are extremely affordable in US, but only in US.
@ppietrukaniec2 3 місяці тому
Decent video. I just traded my Model Y LR AWd for an i4 edrive40 and like the i4 much more over the tesla on everything. Tesla has a very good price, but I was bored of Tesla and there are way too many of them. Uber/doordash driver special!
@stevenv.4659 18 днів тому
Straight to the point, thanks
@f1f278 21 день тому
highland?? doesn't show this online...
@cheeseblog 3 місяці тому
The deal breaker for me is Tesla’s charging network and the price of the car. Pretty much a no brainer. Oh, Tesla software and updates are a + too. At least for me luxury takes a second seat.
@Gjeebs 3 місяці тому
Yea the functionality is very hard to beat
@Jacob-id7xm 2 місяці тому
Tesla chargers are open for all EV’s, atleast here in Norway im only using tesla chargers when driving long trips. It is also the cheapest to charge!
@user-my4xu4gf1z 2 місяці тому
Deal breaker for me is the looks of the tesla. It looks like a blob with ugly outdated tail lights. This review didn't have the bmw option for its lazer angel eyes but they look far more mean and aggresive. The tesla looks like an egg. Then u look at the interiors and its night and day. The tesla doesnt even have a HUD or gauge clusters. What a boring cockpit to sit in. So plain jane and not expensive or special feeling.
@TJBellamy99 2 місяці тому
lol why does the “charging network” matter? U should be charging at home most if the time anyway.
@user-my4xu4gf1z 2 місяці тому
@@TJBellamy99 exactly.. with the range of the cars now it hardly ever matters. Tesla fans just use that as a reason to justify why they can't afford the better car and have no other reason when the other product is far superior.
@mijas-rus2715 2 місяці тому
For me the deal breaker for bmw was the tiny room in the rear seat. There is really no space for two adults there. Model 3 is not ideal but it is much much roomier in the back. So, i4 is essentially a two-person car. This, plus tesla's advantage in the supercharger infrastructure and the fact that i4 is almost 50% more expensive here in Canada, made M3 is more rational choice
@deandre1988 3 місяці тому
Unfortunately other manufactorers are not just strangled by bad charging infrastructure -- but particularly in regards to price and cost-price. Most will fail within the next 6-10 years. - Ford - VW - Toyota - GM - Most of the german manufactors will be a shell of themselves, not actual intact anymore.
@bavariancarenthusiast2722 2 місяці тому
Why so negative? I doubt it will be the case. ICE cars are pulling away especially by German vendors - EV´s are still a niche category. Lets see.
@deandre1988 2 місяці тому
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 EV isn't niece. Its the biggest section in the sector for new sales in west Europe, China and the US. I'm not negative however you're right if you mean pessimistic about the future of legacy fossil manufactures.
@obieWanmotivation 2 місяці тому
@@deandre1988 In USA, EV's are still in the niche category and until the charging infrastructure gets far ahead of new EV sales, it will continue to be a niche. I own an EV so I understand the situation which is why I also own an ICE car.
@MrAtomicant 2 місяці тому
I got a i4 m50 the thing moves
@noorghani5053 3 місяці тому
BMW and Tesla came at an agreement where bmw will be having the Tesla plug and be able to use Tesla chargers everywhere where as currently it’s only a select few Tesla chargers open. The deal is set for 2025. I actually found the acceleration better in the bmw and better freeway pull due to the brushed motors delivering power as a gas bmw would on the autobahn. I also loved the design, quality, and driving dynamics of the bmw. Not to mention the charging curve.
@willielarsson9651 2 місяці тому
5 ft 12, is that not 6 feet?
@kevinn1158 3 місяці тому
On Average the i4 is about 15-17k more than the Model 3. It's a lot nicer inside but that's a lot of money. And the rear seats are really tight for both.
@300rivers4 3 місяці тому
I can't imagine it's worth that. I have an i3 and absolutely love it still, but Tesla has more checks on the plus side than the competition in my opinion.
@craighermle7727 Місяць тому
nearly everything BMW has as option and charges for it is standard on a Tesla.
@Techning 13 днів тому
Not in other regions. In Germany the i4 sells with about 25% discount and the price of an i4 eDrive 35 is actually comparable to a Model 3 SR. Of course you would need to add some extras to the BMW to match.
@kevinn1158 13 днів тому
@@Techning when you say 25% discount do you mean off the MRSP? Or that it’s priced more competitively relative to other vehicles? And now I’m hearing a face lift is coming and a totally new EV dedicated platform after. Ie neue klasse X and sedan.
@Techning 13 днів тому
@@kevinn1158 Yes 25% off MSRP. The MRSP of an i4 eDrive 35 is 56.500€. If you use websites like Carwow you get offers for about 45.000€. So about 21% off actually right now depending on when you look.
@ronin4580 3 місяці тому
What Gjeebs is describing is the normal cycle of updates/refreshes that are part of the automotive landscape. We are now getting there with EVs. Company A leapfrogs company B, causing B to respond to A's latest offering.
@douglaswatt1582 3 місяці тому
That is a laughable assertion in relationship to core issues in electric vehicles like charging. Has BMW with their pathetic Electrify America LeapFrogged anything but total disaster? Do you think there's any likelihood that Electrify America is going to LeapFrog the supercharger Network? Nonsense complete nonsense
@ronin4580 3 місяці тому
@@douglaswatt1582 Laughable is how hard you swerved out of your lane and put the "car" in the ditch. Since when is Electrify America BMW's? If you don't understand the comment, ask for clarification instead of launching into childish attacks.
@BogeyTheBear 3 місяці тому
You'd think Tesla drivers personally own the Supercharger kiosk they plug into, what with the way they continually hammer that home as a selling point.
@peteramey9385 3 місяці тому
You should be testing the Model 3 Highland against the BMW not the old Model 3
@GregMoffattgm 3 місяці тому
That outlet mall in OKC….
@theartofreallife 21 день тому
I’ve had both and the i4 is superior. The ambient light in the new model 3 look like glow sticks. The i4 feels more luxurious
@hjpichler57 Місяць тому
5ft 12???
@MrAlanfalk73 2 місяці тому
Tesla for me, I just tried the new model 3, it is amazing compared to the old model AND what an amazing soundsystem too. Even if they cost the same or the Tesla was more expensive I'd take the Tesla.
@user-my4xu4gf1z 2 місяці тому
U realize tesla sound system was rated a C and bmw harmon kordon got an A and it's bowers&Wilkins got an S..
@MrAlanfalk73 2 місяці тому
@@user-my4xu4gf1z I realize that I have heard it and most others have rated it higher. I come from a family that owns, and have owned lots of cars, and am a hi fi nerd myself. But it is true sone of the cheaper model 3 are just good, but S, X, CT and the top model 3 are the best you will find.
@user-my4xu4gf1z 2 місяці тому
@@MrAlanfalk73 not saying it's bad but bmw has better sound systems. Harmon kordon and bowers&Wilkins have had decades of trial and error to perfect their sound. Tesla isn't just going to come out the blue and have their own sound system that's not even a brand name and be as experienced as other high end brand name sound systems.
@bitcoinman9202 3 місяці тому
Agree I hate HUD lol, it’s distracting I don’t get why people need to stare at the speed
@BogeyTheBear 3 місяці тому
Consider that you no longer hear an increase of speed in an EV, especially the i4. The car sounds the same at 45 as it does at 75 and the only cue you may have to the fact you're speeding over the limit is by reading a glowing number on the board.
@obieWanmotivation 2 місяці тому
You can adjust the size and location and content. My HUD displays minimal information and is not distracting but complementary especially for map directions.
@BIMClub 3 місяці тому
Much easier to use iDrive dial in BMW than touch screen in any other cars, especially while you’re driving.
@BogeyTheBear 3 місяці тому
To operate a touchscreen, you have to put your eyes where your fingers go. Operating a cursor via a controller, you can trade your attention between eyes and fingers much faster since they remain independent of each other. I feel the dial click one detent over, I can see the tile shift out from the corner of my eye, and I press down on the dial to engage without having to look at the screen.
@psusteel1 3 місяці тому
A good comparison review, but not a great video. Unfortunately, the strong Phoenix sun casts way too many distracting shadows that made it difficult to appreciate car colors, exterior and especially interior design. Please consider filming on parking garage lower decks, or in shadow of larger building where light is uniform, or film beginning or end of day. Like your content but difficult to watch.
@CMCNestT 3 місяці тому
Everyone save Stellantis has signed up for the Supercharger Network. BMW drivers will have access to the Supercharger Network by the end of year. The only disadvantage for BMW drivers is they won't have access for a couple of months vs buying a Tesla.
@Gjeebs 3 місяці тому
I took this BMW to a Tesla magic dock and it worked perfectly
@JoshuaGrech 14 днів тому
BMW has a chassis refined over a couple decades. Tesla has a battery cradle. That’s the biggest difference between the two.
@yzhan225 2 місяці тому
Tesla could easily make their cars much quieter if they removed the all glass roof or made it an option. The more Glass simply just carries more noise.
@Harrythehun 3 місяці тому
The model is always on top.
@Richard-bq3ni Місяць тому
Tesla using button on the wheel for the indicators, camera's in stead of radar for parking and adaptive cruise control just put me off. I don't mind change, but only if it makes things better.
@Real_Natural 3 місяці тому
Love that you went all dog whisperer in the middle of the review. You’re correct too. I like the BMW. I’d buy the Tesla.
@chrisengletx 3 місяці тому
that's funny. I am the same. I like the BMW's alot, but continue to buy Teslas.
@pawpawbandit3871 3 місяці тому
just pointing out the reality that "i never take my dog anywhere" and daily driving a dog in a rural area vintage SUV with huge old windows and mulitple sunroofs that open up, making it feel super open like a convertible in warm weather...are very different urban/ rural routines for a dog. Yeah I have lived in town before with my dog and obviously you don't drive as much then - and you'd be in more traffic if you did, which isn't fun for you or your dog - especially on hot days. Dogs love riding in certain models of cars that have roomy interiors or are converted for dogs/ seats removed, with ample padding / footing and lots of air-flow through the interior. It almost makes more sense to buy a separate, beater old SUV to convert to your dog mobile, if you're in the market for a new BMW i4 and have the space. And fresh air flow is everything for dogs. "Dog Mode" on your Tesla is never going to be more comfortable than me leaving my dog in an old SUV with sunroofs open, shades pulled, windows half-open; this is common sense for people who breathe air and know physiology and understand dogs and heat and how they breathe etc. (unless it's like 100 degrees outside and you can't find shade, in which case you would want to be really careful leaving a dog in a car whatsoever).
@54FLEX45 3 місяці тому
Why review the old Model 3? I know it's still the current model in America but still, Highland just around the corner.
@cpreid 3 місяці тому
TLDR; the BMW is a better car, but Tesla is a better full package if you consider charging network and cost. Seems that we’re straying away from reviewing the car versus car experience in favor of pulling in ancillary factors that give Tesla the edge. We are downplaying the reality of range anxiety and Tesla’s inaccuracy of range estimates, while at the same time we are using Teslas charging network as a point of superiority over other manufacturers. I don’t know if anyone listened to Elon Musk on Rogan last month, but his comments that range anxiety is a farce were completely egregious.
@xkr510 3 місяці тому
I don’t want to have to deal with a dealer PLUS I do not care for the BMW styling. Ever since bangle butt BMW’s they have become increasingly ugly.
@triduytran 2 місяці тому
5 foot 12? Not 6 feet? :)
@PhantomInTheZone Місяць тому
Can’t believe no one else caught that 🤣
@ArtArchitectureAndAI 19 днів тому
I chuckled .😂
@richardcoughlin8931 3 місяці тому
I don’t get the lack of front storage space in the BMW and other electrics. The front trunk (which I refuse to call by that stupid, ugly word fru**k) is the thing I like best about my Model Y. I use it all the time for grocery runs. I can pull into my garage and unload directly through the kitchen door without having to duck in the rear hatch, walk around the side, and squeeze between the Y and my other car). This may seem like a small thing to others, but for me it’s something I use nearly every day and would sorely miss if it weren’t there.
@lemongavine 3 місяці тому
The BMW is based on a gas car platform so front trunk not doable (notice I didn’t call it a fru*k)
@BogeyTheBear 3 місяці тому
@@lemongavineThe kicker is that there _is_ space under the hood for storage. You can actually stash a small bag between the hoses and cabling in an RWD i4 model as-is. BMW just didn't make the effort. There is even a third-party aftermarket offering to install a small front storage bin.
@lemongavine 3 місяці тому
@@BogeyTheBear wow. That’s crazy.
@ppietrukaniec2 3 місяці тому
In 6 years of owning multiple Teslas, I only used the frunk maybe 3 or 4 times. not necessary.
@obieWanmotivation 2 місяці тому
I agree with you. I drive the i4 and I would've loved a frunk for times when my wife sends me to buy certain food items from the store.
@drmichaellum 2 місяці тому
5' 12", so 6 feet tall?
@christopherrobins5463 3 місяці тому
Five foot 12?
@Gjeebs 3 місяці тому
Yea what's the problem?
@Nickbaldeagle02 2 місяці тому
4 foot 24"
@GregoryMooreMD 2 місяці тому
Nice review. You didn’t talk about self driving or automation features which are a huge re of discrepancy. Also if you are 5’12” you can safely say you’re 6’
@BogeyTheBear 2 місяці тому
Like how the BMW's adaptive cruise control and self-parking systems still use rangefiders (both radar and ultrasonic sensors) while Tesla sells you the snake oil of "the cameras do just as good a job-- unless the weather is bad or the sun is low in the sky..."
@STRET24 3 місяці тому
Tesla beats BMW on a very few but key points: price and charging/network. Key points but aside from that BMW fit n finish destroys Tesla.
@Tanax13 2 місяці тому
The BMW can charge at Tesla superchargers so why does that even matter? All EVs in Europe use CCS.
@GDM22 29 днів тому
@@Tanax13 He reviewed the RWD Model 3 which was $14k cheaper, the Model 3 Perfromance was still $2k cheaper all depends how you prioritise luxury against say price or performance.
@Tanax13 29 днів тому
@@GDM22That doesn't negate my point. BMW can still charge at all Tesla superchargers so the Tesla charging network doesn't matter anymore since all EVs can use it.
@GDM22 29 днів тому
@@Tanax13 Agree totally, but it still leaves price, which was the other point he made and for most it is the biggest point of all.
@Tanax13 29 днів тому
@@GDM22Sure, I agree. Prices have increased dramatically on the BMW i4 here in Sweden. Base price for cheapest one is 700k (~$66k) whereas a base Model 3 is 519k (~$49k). The base i4 has slightly better range though (up to 590km WLTP vs Model 3 513km WLTP), but not sure that difference is worth $17k~ (!!!)
@teitpoulsen7183 2 місяці тому
Teslas superior engineering of drivetrain and software makes for a lighter and easier to use daily driver. Highland improvements bridges most of the gapbto the more luxurious BMW. BMW need to lower prices to stay competitive.
@beinlikeerrth 2 місяці тому
My insurance definitely considers my Tesla model 3 a luxury vehicle
@user-ee9ni1mw8u 4 дні тому
Comparison test in 2024 with an old Model 3 without mentioned in title etc?? You must be out of your mind.
@catbert7 2 місяці тому
For those wanting a comprehensive breakdown of objective differences between Highland Model 3 and BMW i4, with all else roughly equal: BMW Ws: Hatchback Tesla Ws: $17k cheaper, BEFORE OPTIONS (see below) Charging network +40 mile range, at the mid-trim. Much higher safety score from Euro NCAP (and i4 is not even tested in the US, somehow... wtf) 21 cubic feet of storage vs the i4's 10... Screen in back Better voice controls 360 camera coverage, and playback, vs the i4's single backup camera Better app, driver-assist, infotainment, and other software FSD Beta as an option Heated rear seats All the following standard, vs costly options on i4: Heated Front Seats, Ventilated Seats, Adaptive Headlights, Wireless phone charging, Heated steering wheel, Lumbar controls, Adaptive cruise control... It's about as damning as a comparison can be. Unless you REALLY prefer the aesthetic style or fell of the BMW, you're just getting a much worse car for a much higher price, I'm afraid.
@SSY86374 3 місяці тому
Not a fair comparison, bmw build quality is at another level. Also the price difference, i have the i4 M50 which may cost more than 2 times than a model 3 when you factor in tax credit for model 3. I4 is just more special given so many tesla out there. If u want exclusivity, get a m50 which u won't see another m50 next to you anytime soon.
@KDR816 2 місяці тому
Lol in Munich there are more i4s than Teslas
@alexanderasner1689 2 місяці тому
LOL. I would choose the BMW over the Model 3 if I had to charge it with a Hometrainer. The BMW is actually a car rather than an app on wheels.
@TheBraindoner 3 місяці тому
BMW needs to step up their game in the motor and acceleration area in a big way. Once they compete or beat Tesla numbers they’ll be on my list.
@alesul 3 місяці тому
The i4 M50 accelerates as fas as the M3 Performance. You can find some drag videos to compare.
@TheBraindoner 3 місяці тому
@@alesulthanks for the heads up. Just looked at a few. It’s on my list again for when my M3P needs replacing. Wonder why they don’t have that listed on their site? Looks like they over deliver on the stated 0-60. :-)
@douglaswatt1582 3 місяці тому
Tell me how that's going to happen with the new Highland performance coming out in the next month or so, with 0 to 60 in
@Jacob-id7xm 2 місяці тому
@@douglaswatt1582not everyone buys cars purely for 0-60 lol
@obieWanmotivation 2 місяці тому
@@douglaswatt1582 LOL. I agree but my M50 is already too fast for daily driving. I don't need more speed. Thank you😂
@shanewilfon6860 3 місяці тому
Tesla is only ev company I trust. BMW is way nicer but Tesla been doing it so long and the sc network
@Nickbaldeagle02 2 місяці тому
You trust a company whose CEO is a Russian collaborater?
@dopexayu 3 місяці тому
❤❤❤
@plexq 3 місяці тому
I have the eDrive40 model i4 and I actually really enjoy the HUD. The BMW also has remote cameras that will show the vehicles surroundings - so that's also available in the BMW. A friend of mine has a Tesla Model 3 and I've driven that also. Whilst the BMW is more expensive than the Tesla, the drive on the BMW is significantly better as is the build quality. Is it a better daily driver because the Tesla is cheaper? I wouldn't say so. The BMW is so much nicer of an experience! You feel like you're driving the future. The driving display is much much better than the Tesla. Finding basic things like the aircon and heated seats is much easier on the BMW - it's entirely obvious. Took me a good bit of time on the Tesla to find those functions... whilst driving because I needed defrost. Not great, or safe. I do lament the lack of a frunk on the BMW, it's a real missing. It also doesn't seem like we're going to get Adapters for NACS on BMW at all in 2024, we'll have to wait until 2025 for a new car with the NACS port. That's a big bummer. Finding charging is currently an almost daily headache for me. Having said that, the BMW is built in Germany in car plants that use exclusively renewable energy from what I understand which is a big plus from an eco-friendly perspective. I didn't push the model 3 to the limit on the road particularly, but the handling on the BMW is exceptional. I have driven a Lamborghini round a race track a few times, and I couldn't push the back of the BMW out nearly as easily as the Lambo. It's glued to the road and feels solid as fast as I dared to push it. And at the end of the day, the Tesla looks like a Tesla, and the BMW looks like a BMW. The BMW is just a way cooler looking car, especially with the M package. It just looks like a badass car. Is that worth $15k. Maybe it is. The two years of free charging doesn't hurt either.
@stevehampton1130 3 місяці тому
Totally agree! I also bought the BMW i4 edrive 40! Amazing vehicle! I believe the only people that don’t agree that it is superior to the model 3… Haven’t spent time really experiencing the car. I compared these vehicles in detail on my channel as well … ukposts.info/have/v-deo/sZSphK5oi5uVlqM.htmlsi=16xLl92-yMZbZL-U In addition, We invested in a home charger so the charging network is mute point for the amount of traveling we do. Charging at home provides you with a better experience overall!
@benjaminreynolds4047 2 місяці тому
FYI 5’12” = 6’
@Gjeebs 2 місяці тому
Yes that was a joke thank you for the breakdown
@user-my4xu4gf1z 2 місяці тому
The i4 m50 is def the play. Faster then the tesla, has better/more tech, actual special feeling expensive luxury interior and ur car doesnt look like basic traffic. Model 3 legit looks like some kind of blob or egg. Isnt sleek or aggresive looking at all. Only people that try to justify tesla is becuase they cant afford a bmw EV. Deep hard truth. I use to hate on stuff i couldnt afford too.
@hannu8755 2 місяці тому
One word: BMW!!!! 👊👍🤘🔥
@StarryTemplar 2 місяці тому
We can all talk about how good BMW interior is but the inside it's just hybrid, useless rear leg room and with useless transmission bump :(
@moreliberty1 3 місяці тому
The i4 is nice, but for roughly the same price, I'd absolutely take the Model 3 Performance over the entry-level i4.
@DCbruv 3 місяці тому
Sums it up correctly
@BogeyTheBear 3 місяці тому
Sure, you'd get there a little faster. But you're still getting there _in a Tesla._
@moreliberty1 3 місяці тому
@@BogeyTheBearTrue, which means you'll have a much better time of the drive, too. Good point.
@therealscags 2 місяці тому
5ft 12...! Thats 6ft in the UK and everywhere else in the world. 😂
@chrisburger4518 2 місяці тому
Not a fair comparison. Either way, I'll pass on that front grill.
@nedywest71 3 місяці тому
Tesla 3 and Y are a "PREMIUM" described cars
@BogeyTheBear 3 місяці тому
Classic example of mistaking luxury pricing for luxury. Call it the Apple Effect.
@nedywest71 3 місяці тому
@@BogeyTheBear Tesla X and S are Teslas LUXURY vehicle and priced accordingly as such. Tesla 3 and Y are PREMIUM vehicles and priced down as such. No one ever described Tesla 3 and Y as Luxury even when first introduced. Just then they where price prohibitive and now they have come to their more natural place price wise agains offering.
@StarryTemplar 2 місяці тому
17:15 Disagree on Dog park lmao
@andranik_torosyan 2 місяці тому
Five foot twelve 😂😂😂
@ghislainbourassa1906 2 місяці тому
There is a 23K price difference between the BMW I4 and Tesla Model 3. How can you even think of comparing them?
@douglaswatt1582 3 місяці тому
Unfortunately, any possible advantages and they're rather slim with the BMW are dwarfed completely by the supercharger issue. If you buy an electric vehicle that does not have the nacs connector, please, for your own sake, don't bother trying to road trip it. And then there's the yawning price disparity. The new Highland performance model will cost about the same as this overpriced i-4. Those are not even in the same universe.
@BogeyTheBear 3 місяці тому
The Supercharger issue is not as gargantuan as you may want it to be. Anyone with home/work charging solutions aren't going to be as swayed, and the inclusion of non-Tesla vehicles to the network is in the forecast.
@ericjohnson3967 3 місяці тому
I test drove the i4. The absolute deal breaker was no 1 pedal driving. Touch the break to stop. What are we savages?
@Gjeebs 3 місяці тому
It has one pedal driving
@BogeyTheBear 3 місяці тому
He was looking for the one-pedal mode in the touchscreen when it's actually on the gear selector. PS: I was facetious with that remark at first, but I just found out that you actually _do_ have to ply through the Tesla's touchscreen in order to turn one-pedal mode on or off! Minimalism is the reduction of tools to accomplish a task-- Simplicity is the reduction of _actions_ to accomplish a task. Tesla's minimalism means having to use the touchscreen to do everything through a bunch of pages-- BMW simply lets you activate one-pedal mode at the flick of a switch.
@obieWanmotivation 2 місяці тому
The i4 has one pedal driving through the gear shifter. I use it at all times except when I'm on the highway where it coasts like a normal car with adaptive regen to almost serve like a 1 pedal. When traffic builds up on the highway, I change it back to one pedal mode.
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