Thanks for taking the time to comment! Great to get some insight from long term use 👍

@tacti_kelly5582 - Hi, curious as I have this tent but haven't used it yet, but with the vestibule deployed wouldn't that be similar (albeit that has a narrow flat panel either side of the doors)? What was your experience? Cheers.

@@alastaireast2103 Sorry, I only used either just one door open for safe cooking in windy conditions or I put the vestibule totally up and cooked with a stove shield in light winds and sunny days.

I thought about buying a Helvellyn but it had some spec issues. A google search took me to the Mirage, there seemed to be an old version and a current 2023 version. Next I found the Hydra. There seemed to be an old Hydra that had been UK available and then a more recent Hydra that seemed only European available . Why did Vango upgrade the flysheet HH of the Original Mirage and launch it as a new tent the Hydra which seemed to have everything else the same spec ? The Hydra has two way door zips, perhaps the Original Mirage did not; But why not simply launch it as a Mirage upgrade ? The Hydra now seems unavailable in UK outdoor retailers and a tent, almost the same specification as the Original Mirage, appeared dubbed the Helvellyn ! The Helvellyn has lower spec fly than the Hydra spec including no two way zip doors and lower HH fly, so a step back from the Hydra so why not call it the Mirage !? ? (I have read observations that 3000HH is perfectly adequate, for the three season use Vango intends most tents for and 5000HH is effectively a Marketing thing). Some time later, a new, Vango semi geodesic, tent called The Mirage appeared - at first glance very similar to Original Mirage/Hydra/Helvellyn but in fact different in a number of ways. All confusing and illogical, to me at least. Maybe Vango marketing's intention is to rely on a limited span of attention amongst its customers to make it look like they launch lots of new models !!

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@@BurtonOutdoors 💅

It's a vandingo mandingo!!😅

Too rights mandingo

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Cheers mate! You too! 🍻

Haha happy to help! 😆

Seems decent so far 👍

Cheers mate 👍

Ah my first camp was in a Nova 200. Fond memories 👍

Sure is! ❄️

Wow you must REALLY like them then! 😆👍

They totally do! I have two, soon to be three.

Delivered from Tiso for that price.

I need to investigate these

@@DaleyOutdoors weather is unpredictable on kinderscout. A heated gilet just gives me some insurance if it becomes too cold.

Or just hot water bottle

He won’t camp with me anymore.

@@DaleyOutdoors 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Also should add - great small tent for taller people.

I didn’t take anything else 😆 Thanks for watching mate. I’ll be back out for a proper camp/test in a couple of weeks 👍

The old Bombproof Banshee mate 😆

I’ve been fine before but really felt the cold on this night 🤷‍♂️

A bivvy and liner for winter need not break the bank

No worries! 👍

I’m looking forward to getting out in it again 👍

Yeah I really like the design of the doors and vestibule

I have a Nevis 100 too. Love it. ❤

I haven’t tried one. Will have a look.

Cheers mate 👍

I haven’t seen those. I’ll take a look 👌

That’s a kind offer, but honestly I’d bd so scared of damaging it id be a nervous wreck 🤣

@@DaleyOutdoors I have lent it out before to random UKpostsrs and have so many spare Hillebergs I don't have any worries - I live on the Manchester side of the Peak District if you do want to test it.

Yeah I sold it. Was too much of a faff to pitch and had about 927 different options to mess with. Prefer to keep things simple like me 🤓

No tent will withstand 125mph winds

I use the light tour in this video and loads of others. I’ve got a dedicated review video on it too. Links to it on video descriptions.

I've got a Mountain Equipment Aerostat Synthetic 7.0 insulated sleeping pad, with an R rating of 4. It's really warm, robust and comfortable, cost me £120. I hope this helps

Should be a big warmer for my next camp 👍

Thanks Ivan!

I *think* it was just warm air cooling down and contracting. Ive just been topping up before going to sleep and it’s been fine. I doubt many will have their mats inflated as long as I do on a camp to be fair.

I’ve looked at the x mid. They’re baby blue though, and the import fees are crazy 😬

@@DaleyOutdoors I know ! There should always be a green or brown option and orange if you need to be seen . They limit their appeal massively by poor colour choices.

Light tour. Been using it for ages and done a few videos with it now.

Oops lol. Worst I’ve forgotten is my spork so far 😆

I almost went for one of those when I bought this

@@DaleyOutdoors I tested mine in 3 days of solid rain at Kielder and was superb. Very robust tent

@@yetiibob8407 I might grab one and do a comparison 🤔

Your knowledge amazes me 🫡

Maybe I need a Stella to put this rudeness to the test…

Guy lines. Not as much as these do 😆

yes guy.maybe you could show how bad they stretch,cannot decide this or the banshee.@@DaleyOutdoors

@@t147han I haven’t tried a banshee but I think both are good choices

Yep. Still only useful when it’s dry though.

Thank you! 👍

@@DaleyOutdoors ...no worries. I hope yourself Gaz and Fendy head out together again soon. I really enjoy yours and his videos.

I'm sure we will soon 🤓

I need to do some more testing with it

I might return and swap it out for the Alpkit Pipedream, although I'd be pushing it with the expense a bit. It's not a small bag anyways, nor is it light! It's concerning you had to bail due to that 🫣

Yeah it was weird. The mat has been fine down to -3 and it felt like the cold was around my sides and top 🤷‍♂️ probably man flu 🤣

I usually just use a dry bag 👍

Probably 🤷‍♂️

Yes. It’s not £140 though 😉

Haha good point 😆

Cheers mate 👍 Cloud Up is a great tent 👌

​@@DaleyOutdoors Bro' I love the way you keep calling it the Cloud Up 2...but I know what you mean 👍👍🤭

@@davidf4897 the Up is better than the Peak 🤪🤣

@@DaleyOutdoors Nooooo 🫣🤣🤣

@@DaleyOutdoors I prefer the Cloud Up 😁

nalgene hot water bingo

Yeah the hydra looks good but was out of stock when I looked 😭

I thought I would too but it’s just bearable for me 🤓

Nice! 👌

A roof tent…

@@DaleyOutdoors so i can put you down as a no idea then lmao witch is strange as you review them but no worrys

@@Paul-hl4cj I review them for wild camping on my own, not living in for a year with someone else 🤷‍♂️

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Don’t rub it in 😆😭

@@DaleyOutdoors look for local second hand sales, be ready to pounce they do appear.

It is annoying. I only let it go because of the price 😆

@@DaleyOutdoors Yeah, fair point. What happened with the eBay buy, just didn’t show up or something else ??

@@craigy1872 didn’t show up so opened a case with eBay and got my money back. When I bought the seller had 200+ items listed for sale. They vanished days later.

Share some links/names and help people out 👍

@@DaleyOutdoors Looking for and finding good deals is part of this hobby, so I wont recomend anything😋 Would question weight at any purchase, even the idea of having 4 season tent at all. 3 season tent with good sleeping set would get similar results and save a lot of weight.

@@djka8083 well swerved 👍

You don't need to recommend any tents. Just tell us of the "plenty of affordable options, cheaper than this Vango and half the weight" and we can do our own research on them. Also, which tent do you use for winter?

​@@GrizzlyGazLoads of tents below £200 and 2kg. Januray sales are on every website. I use lanshan, its not for everyone but works for me. Whatever I saved on a tent I bought good sleeping system. I dont need 4 season tent tbh, wouldnt mind going 2nd hand as a begginer. 2.8kg for one person is a lot unless you are built like a unit or dont plan to do a lot of walking.

The branches I used were already stockpiled for use on the fire pit.

So you think that bringing in wood with you is better than using what you find in the woods? How on earth did you come to that conclusion and how on earth is this always possible logistically? Unless you've cut down a tree in your own garden, processed it, then seasoned the logs in your own house (to avoid animal/insect habitation but also impossible anyway) then the logs most people have at home will be from a woods or forest anyway. Then stored outside, in a log pile long enough to season, which will inadvertently provide habitat for animals and insects. Therefore you will destroy this habitat when you move the logs to take camping with you! One of the most ridiculous comments I've ever heard!