Illegal LEGO Techniques

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Tiago Catarino

Tiago Catarino

2 роки тому

People called my builds illegal... I took it personally and made this video!
And for the record, I should know a thing or two about the subject since I was a former designer and some point in my life.
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@TiagoCatarino
@TiagoCatarino 2 роки тому
SUBSCRIBING is legal Buy LEGO to support the channel ❯ bit.ly/48N1nd5
@rafibarker5064
@rafibarker5064 2 роки тому
Keep up the amazing quality videos. 👏👌👍😊
@VeryTastySoup87
@VeryTastySoup87 2 роки тому
I did!
@joeleboeuf
@joeleboeuf 2 роки тому
Now THAT is an absolutely educational video on what not to do with Lego bricks.
@MiniTank08
@MiniTank08 2 роки тому
last time i checked it wasnt
@williambelleza108
@williambelleza108 2 роки тому
Really enjoyed that one, including your clear anger about the illegal thing 😁
@CountDoucheula
@CountDoucheula 2 роки тому
I like how they're so precise on their measurements and dimensions, all the time not realising the Legos are going straight in my mouth.
@Elias-ry7ri
@Elias-ry7ri 2 роки тому
NOM
@BeHappyTo
@BeHappyTo Рік тому
that lego piece you ate was under grandmas feet
@juno_dawn
@juno_dawn Рік тому
@@BeHappyTo extra flavour
@happysheepslimes9090
@happysheepslimes9090 Рік тому
@@juno_dawn MMMM, LOVE CURSED COMMENTS
@long.bird.
@long.bird. Рік тому
@@juno_dawn feet crust seasoning
@thesmoker4027
@thesmoker4027 2 роки тому
You know you made a terrible mistake when the lego engineer tells you “this is personal”
@melvinhotdogman6926
@melvinhotdogman6926 2 роки тому
When he said that I felt sad :(
@ev6558
@ev6558 2 роки тому
This man Legos like a boss.
@__-ic7si
@__-ic7si 2 роки тому
When any engineer tells you "this is personal" you've screwed up.
@Koichi-
@Koichi- 2 роки тому
Imagine it’s your first day at the job.
@buggr
@buggr 2 роки тому
@@__-ic7si Either you have done something wrong, or if you are not the subject of things becoming personal, you are being warned that a workshop is about to explode a little bit while they sort out what object has them upset. Source: My father in law is an engineer.
@Taikamuna
@Taikamuna 2 роки тому
"So, how did you end up in jail?" Me: Illegal Lego builds
@Voided-YT
@Voided-YT Рік тому
Oh hello.
@bigpapi5343
@bigpapi5343 Рік тому
*Scoots away*
@MyPhobo
@MyPhobo 2 місяці тому
@@bigpapi5343lol
@onebadgloop4514
@onebadgloop4514 Місяць тому
hey it the guy from trackmania
@jefflukaszyk5970
@jefflukaszyk5970 Місяць тому
It would be hilarious in-joke if they put that in some lego movie...
@thomasjeppesen3055
@thomasjeppesen3055 Рік тому
You just answered two huge questions from my childhood (why they redesigned the clip piece and 1x1 cone piece) and I am thankful for the closure it provided me.
@zestyfg
@zestyfg 7 місяців тому
I was one of the kids who pushed in that old cone as hard as I could. It felt satisfying.
@jenelle5331
@jenelle5331 25 днів тому
I don't like the new clips. They break too easily.
@SHYTIMEismyTIME
@SHYTIMEismyTIME 2 роки тому
Now that is the proper dictionary definition needed to be said about what an "Illegal" technique is. Thanks for the lesson!
@hoarder66
@hoarder66 2 роки тому
Agreed
@cyanimation1605
@cyanimation1605 2 роки тому
yes yes. Things that stress me out are illegal. mention a former US president? Go to jail. tell me to work on my taxes? right to jail. remind me Velika's a great being? jail.
@taqresu5865
@taqresu5865 2 роки тому
@@cyanimation1605 lol as a Bionicle fan, that last one really cracked me up lol
@NorthGaReptile
@NorthGaReptile 2 роки тому
Agreed. I've seen quite a few comments about connections being illegal on other posts and I'm always like "Whaaa..?" I was starting to think that there was some kind of Lego community that made certain types of connections invalid, but this video cleared that up. A connection that doesn't stress a brick = legal A connection that stresses a brick = illegal
@guntersiegfried7460
@guntersiegfried7460 2 роки тому
@@NorthGaReptile but doesnt the pressed connection in itself stress the parts - of course they do! So this is a highly lawyery acedemic discussion that in itself destroyes and stresses our connection as humans. Yesterday a had some lego bricks from 1940/50s without cross support - we played and used cross plattform connections all the time - "press it ,until it holds" wood to plastic/metal whatever, i couldnt make out one broken brick! So what they hell - i am not building actual houses/hospitals out of lego bricks.
@Yourboss3382
@Yourboss3382 2 роки тому
I'm glad you are explaining the reasons behind the rules because some people will just give a list of ways no to build and thats a little annoying
@TiagoCatarino
@TiagoCatarino 2 роки тому
I try!
@orion7741
@orion7741 2 роки тому
but there are no rules when it comes to LEGO. anybody that says there are rules is a communist.
@NoNameAtAll2
@NoNameAtAll2 2 роки тому
@@orion7741 why communist?
@Fujimokou985
@Fujimokou985 2 роки тому
@@NoNameAtAll2 Because by saying "communist" he too can politicalize fu*cking legos.
@Flamebeard0815
@Flamebeard0815 2 роки тому
@@orion7741 So... you're an anti-LEGO-communist LEGO-anarchist? That's new.
@jacoboreilly2496
@jacoboreilly2496 Рік тому
I thought "illegal Lego techniques" was just a meme for any builds that were unusual, didn't know it was an actual thing!
@stemen1162
@stemen1162 8 місяців тому
There's not actual laws against it brother
@jay_344
@jay_344 7 місяців тому
i think this is more of definition games. i’d think illegal building means any block combination that isn’t in the meta, which itself would be very fluid and hard to define
@cjperkinsboy1293
@cjperkinsboy1293 7 місяців тому
@@jay_344nah it means any technique that can put strain on the pieces
@tacokoneko
@tacokoneko 7 місяців тому
technically it means the QA guidelines sets go through before LEGO ships them, but sometimes there have been illegal techniques in official sets that were accidental
@TheLumberjack1987
@TheLumberjack1987 7 місяців тому
in Denmark you go straight to jail if they find any of those in the annual lego inspection
@SkinnerNoah
@SkinnerNoah Рік тому
For me, illegal techniques are usually a last resort when I can't figure out how to build something normally. I don't have a massive collection so I can't be too reckless with my bricks
@AstonishingStudios
@AstonishingStudios 2 роки тому
This thumbnail looked so clickbait, but realizing you uploaded it, I knew I was going to learn something new and surprising by watching it.
@TiagoCatarino
@TiagoCatarino 2 роки тому
Clickbait UKposts is a thing of the past!
@Lokear
@Lokear 2 роки тому
@@TiagoCatarino If only...
@ethandominic-13
@ethandominic-13 2 роки тому
@@TiagoCatarino Definitely... I have a dream...
@BandrocDandroc
@BandrocDandroc 2 роки тому
@@TiagoCatarino I wish
@KuroKitten
@KuroKitten 2 роки тому
The thumbnail *was* clickbait, but clickbait isn't inherently good or bad. If the thumbnail gets you to click, and the content of the video is worthwhile, then the clickbait was worthwhile =)
@Demonskunk
@Demonskunk 2 роки тому
It's really interesting to learn that the Lego designers are actually modifying pieces to be more versatile and durable.
@Einheit101
@Einheit101 Рік тому
Then why is the LEGO Logo still outside, increasing the height by 0,1mm and why are the holes of these technic bricks still 0,05mm misaligned and why do technic bricks not have inside groves so you can put half pins inside them? 🥲
@MakenaForest
@MakenaForest Рік тому
@@Einheit101 the lego logo is there to identify it as a lego brand brick
@Einheit101
@Einheit101 Рік тому
@@MakenaForest they could sink it in instead
@MrHanBrolo
@MrHanBrolo Рік тому
@@Einheit101 that would weaken the stud
@Kodaiva
@Kodaiva Рік тому
@@Einheit101 because these are all intended parts of the pieces?
@pulsarbeam3857
@pulsarbeam3857 Рік тому
The conflicts with technique brick seems like more of a design oversight when the molds were introduced
@GarryDumblowski
@GarryDumblowski 6 місяців тому
The technic bricks have holes that are slightly higher than the SNOT bricks because if the holes were the same height with the thickness they have, they wouldn't be able to fit on top of a standard Lego brick with the logo on the studs. Either way, there's some incompatibility between technic and standard bricks, and Lego simply chose the one less likely to cause problems.
@sinteleon
@sinteleon 3 місяці тому
@@GarryDumblowski Then maybe the snot bricks should be the one redesigned. :P
@greatbrandini3967
@greatbrandini3967 Рік тому
As a kid, I used to love building Lego Star Wars sets 90's-00's. I recently bought the collector's Star Destroyer and was baffled when I was instructed to put the 2X1 flat piece inside the little clips, as I had always thought that you weren't supposed to do that. Glad I wasn't going crazy lol
@jesustyronechrist2330
@jesustyronechrist2330 2 роки тому
There's a difference between a build being "illegal" and a build being "cursed"
@chrislarson9504
@chrislarson9504 2 роки тому
illegal is the proper term. but i guess cursed is the genZ word for it that can work
@theseveredheadofjohnthebap7322
@theseveredheadofjohnthebap7322 2 роки тому
I have a lego spaceship I built that is so illegal it's actually cursed. I used lego, lego tech, and MegaConstrux. No one can touch it because there's a very specific way of handling it, otherwise it will start to fall apart.
@aidancb910
@aidancb910 2 роки тому
@@chrislarson9504 2 different things bruh. That wheel thing he made is cursed but not illegal. Cursed is like bruh what the hell have u done with that lego. Illegal is a stress thing.
@visassess8607
@visassess8607 2 роки тому
@@aidancb910 Cursed doesn't fit in the context of any of these Lego builds though
@hexagon8899
@hexagon8899 2 роки тому
@@visassess8607 “cursed” has kinda gotten a new meaning a few years ago, and it basically just now means “extremely fucking weird”
@laeamminlakana-matt5692
@laeamminlakana-matt5692 2 роки тому
"Is this legal?" Lego engineers modifying bricks, summoning their best Darth Sidious voice: "I will make it legal"
@joet3935
@joet3935 2 роки тому
Some consider my technique.... UnNatural.
@cookiecreeperplayz
@cookiecreeperplayz 2 роки тому
The CAD software of lego is a pathway to many pieces some may consider legal.
@pef_v6107
@pef_v6107 2 роки тому
The dark side of the LEGO leads to many building techniques some consider to be... unnatural.
@thesharklord
@thesharklord 2 роки тому
"Where can I learn these building techniques?" "Not from a Lego engineer..."
@laeamminlakana-matt5692
@laeamminlakana-matt5692 2 роки тому
@@thesharklord Jump cut to a 3 year old mashing bricks together, but cut specifically into points where they do something illegal that works
@Kriviach
@Kriviach Рік тому
I had no idea that the technic bricks and bricks with studs on the sides had slightly different heights on their holes and studs respectively, kinda feels like an oversight on legos part ngl, I alos never noticed how flat plates and studded plates are different in thickness, great video man! also that wheel that u showed off towards the end looks cool af
@peteranon8455
@peteranon8455 2 роки тому
When I was a kid, I was very offended when my cousin spray painted a Lego project. Somehow I'm glad that other people take this stuff personally.
@z-beeblebrox
@z-beeblebrox 2 роки тому
Wow I legitimately thought "that's illegal" comments about weird Lego techniques were jokes I had no idea there was even an official concept of illegality, let alone that people were actually being both sincere and mostly wrong
@AlexthePoki
@AlexthePoki 2 роки тому
I thought exactly the same lol
@entombedlamb5356
@entombedlamb5356 2 роки тому
I am not the resident expert on Lego builds, but your UKposts comment is definitely 'Illegal'. Its spelled 'their', I fixed it for you...
@z-beeblebrox
@z-beeblebrox 2 роки тому
@@entombedlamb5356 Uh no, "there" is correct. "Their" is possessive. "Their illegal Legos are there." not the other way around.
@thesilverbeluga8539
@thesilverbeluga8539 2 роки тому
@@z-beeblebrox He also, ironically, used the wrong "it's"
@z-beeblebrox
@z-beeblebrox 2 роки тому
@@thesilverbeluga8539 That's true but I'll give it a pass since personally I'd like to see the apostrophe phased out of "it's". I think it's an unnecessary distinction.
@Mackinstyle
@Mackinstyle 2 роки тому
I think it's important to further clarify that "illegal" is really just "contraindicated in Lego's official manual of how to design sets." Lego couldn't care one bit if people do any of this stuff. There's nothing wrong with it. It's not taboo or special. It's just not good practices for creating sensible, robust, elegant designs.
@twakka86
@twakka86 2 роки тому
This is the comment I was looking for here!! I always get confused when people say illegal builds i always get a picture of police banging down doors at 5 a.m arresting people for misuse of lego🙄 🤣
@johnadler6987
@johnadler6987 2 роки тому
@@twakka86 Someone should do a skit of this 🤣
@RaulDiaz-mp8ms
@RaulDiaz-mp8ms 2 роки тому
Heck if anything they'd encourage it if it meant the customer buys more legos to replace the broken ones.
@StormsparkPegasus
@StormsparkPegasus 2 роки тому
@@twakka86 It's only an issue because "illegal" can mean two different things in English. Being against the law, ie you can be arrested for it. And just being against competition rules or something. Other languages use different words for these concepts so it's not as much of an issue. English has the same problem with "free". "Free software" doesn't mean what most people think it means, because it doesn't mean "free" as in "no charge".
@twakka86
@twakka86 2 роки тому
@@StormsparkPegasus err thanks for explaining!?! Kinda already knew the score pal but thanks anyway
@sandervdbrink84
@sandervdbrink84 7 місяців тому
The terms "legal" and "illegal" are so weird for something you can always legally do with your own Lego sets.
@SilverEye91
@SilverEye91 7 місяців тому
It's pretty obvious what it means to anyone with a brain though.
@maggiejetson7904
@maggiejetson7904 2 роки тому
As an engineer the last time I said "I'll never do anything that is invalid", the QA always find my mistakes.
@ShinigamiScouse7
@ShinigamiScouse7 2 роки тому
She: " I love bad boys." Him: "I'm an illegal Lego builder."
@Chubbybots
@Chubbybots 2 роки тому
I am guilty as charged for using so many illegal techniques 😂 that aside, great insight into these techniques coming from your experience as a Lego designer
@TiagoCatarino
@TiagoCatarino 2 роки тому
Somebody arrest this man!!! :P
@animefreakjex
@animefreakjex 2 роки тому
I did many illegal techniques as a kid, now I atleast know why it didn't fit back then 😂
@JoeKyser
@JoeKyser 2 роки тому
Ah nothing a little glue wont fix lol
@rebeccachoice
@rebeccachoice 2 роки тому
@@JoeKyser Eeek! Kragl!
@JoeKyser
@JoeKyser 2 роки тому
@@rebeccachoice 😀
@KingBobXVI
@KingBobXVI Рік тому
Iirc, the newer round pieces have a lip inside them to allow technic pins to expand, so that one is now (sometimes) legal, depending on whether it's the new piece.
@budthecyborg4575
@budthecyborg4575 3 місяці тому
Crazy thing is the official LEGO instructions often use damaging connections, as I can attest by the numerous broken bricks in my tubs.
@puzzLEGO
@puzzLEGO 2 роки тому
now these are illegal techniques, I'd thought I had seen it all but there was so many things I learnt today
@viperlord487
@viperlord487 2 роки тому
Hello Puzzlego! I'm subbed to you!
@cth4904
@cth4904 2 роки тому
I was always so confused about illegal building techniques, now it makes sense illegal techniques stresses out the bricks or can damage them
@raphaelnej8387
@raphaelnej8387 2 роки тому
same when i was kid i didn’t understand how people decided the laws but when i grew up i had this enlightenment: law follows morality
@cth4904
@cth4904 2 роки тому
@@raphaelnej8387 I really like they way up put that, also very true!
@UTU49
@UTU49 2 роки тому
I'm really trying to remember how often my brother and I used "illegal techniques" as kids. I'm pretty sure we used them a moderate amount -- perhaps somewhat above average. I definitely remember being aware of using the bricks in ways that they were not intended. I definitely remember using bricks in ways that could damage them. If it was POSSIBLE, we would do it. We definitely weren't thinking much about whether a technique was "advisable" or not, in any sense. We were just exercising our creativity.
@cth4904
@cth4904 2 роки тому
@@UTU49 lego is such a great toy for flexing your creative muscle loved building whatever came to mind building techniques be damned
@NZBallBag
@NZBallBag 2 роки тому
Thanh goodness. And here I was quickly pulling my lego apart thinking I was going to prison..
@coasterblocks3420
@coasterblocks3420 4 місяці тому
Seems like a simple minor redesign of some elements would eliminate some of illegality. For example, making the LEGO logo on studs an “innie” instead of an “outie”, or adjusting the top of the tube of a brick to allow a Technic pin to expand.
@refundreplay
@refundreplay 2 роки тому
I have never, in all my casual years of playing with Legos, heard "illegal" used. I have, though, wondered about those very subtle gaps. Learned a lot of un-useful information, but I'm happy to have learned it all the same.
@Zeroshiki
@Zeroshiki 2 роки тому
Same here. As soon as I saw the title, I was like, _"Who tf is out here arresting people for putting Legos together wrong ?"_ Seems like a really bad term for this lol. 💀
@Llortnerof
@Llortnerof Рік тому
That's because the term is inapplicable. Until Lego starts their own nation, they have no power to declare anything illegal.
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 7 місяців тому
​@@LlortnerofIllegal in the sense that a chess move is illegal.
@Llortnerof
@Llortnerof 7 місяців тому
@@davidwuhrer6704 Nope, still doesn't work. An illegal chess move is one that is against the rules. Rules that the players agree to uphold. Lego has no such rules.
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 7 місяців тому
@@Llortnerof What nation does chess have that gives it the power to declare something illegal?
@Zaximillian
@Zaximillian 2 роки тому
In our LUG, we say "Technic and System bricks are not friends." Not enemies, but not friends.
@LucasBuilds
@LucasBuilds 2 роки тому
My favourite obscure legal connection is a technic pin to the underside of a 1x1 brick with studs on 4 sides. The open studs actually give the pin room to properly expand and move freely, so while it may not be intentional it's not actually stressing anything and is, as such, fully legal! It was even used in an old M-Tron set once.
@mikosoft
@mikosoft 2 роки тому
I'm pretty sure you're talking about Particle ionizer as I have that set at home and if I recall correctly the connection you mentioned was used for the "rotor" part
@RadziolM
@RadziolM 2 роки тому
I have it used in 75491 (Indominus set) as a base for the trees.
@Zaximillian
@Zaximillian 2 роки тому
One more use for the Travis brick!
@intrepidmixedmedia7939
@intrepidmixedmedia7939 2 роки тому
It was also used within the past year in another set, I think it got a mention on New Elementary
@jettlucashayes8508
@jettlucashayes8508 2 роки тому
@Jesse Mathis exo force: sweats nervously
@nzoomed
@nzoomed 2 роки тому
Interesting video, something I've been meaning to ask is if Lego has changed their plastic on newer bricks. They seem softer and easier to remove, but in some cases they can come off alot easier as a result.
@mathgeniuszach
@mathgeniuszach 7 місяців тому
I guess eating or stepping on lego bricks is also an illegal building technique because it puts stress and strain on the parts in a way they weren't designed for too
@ehhhsteve8582
@ehhhsteve8582 2 роки тому
“Most of the time” lol. Would love to hear a story (if one exists) of an illegal building technique that was caught by LEGO quality control, causing you to redesign in some way.
@randallisaeff1876
@randallisaeff1876 2 роки тому
I can't wait to defend the first case where my client is facing charges for "illegal Lego building techniques."
@KewAnneOn
@KewAnneOn 2 роки тому
Excellent 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. You know Lego builders must have a pole up their arse if they're saying the wrong brick being used is illegal 😂. Pretty sure no laws are being broken in this video.
@archerestarcher
@archerestarcher 2 роки тому
@@KewAnneOn it's just the terminology the community uses, they don't actually mean or believe that it's against the law
@AnglosArentHuman
@AnglosArentHuman 2 роки тому
@@KewAnneOn Least spastic Angloid boomer:
@chairya2
@chairya2 2 роки тому
This is why i used to hate getting technique sets when i asked for lego’s for my birthday. It always seemed as if the bricks would fit in a certain way with regular lego’s, but then they ended up not fitting.
@BlackringIII
@BlackringIII Рік тому
The wonders we could achieve if the Lego logo was recessed
@OliverCGoetz
@OliverCGoetz 2 роки тому
Unfortunately, these days even being an active LEGO designer and being embedded in the design and quality processes at the mothership doesn't seem to be a guarantee that no illegal building techniques make their way into official sets. Have you heard about the problem with 76205 Gargantos Showdown? If not, check out the article "Possible design flaw found in 2022 Super Heroes set" over on Brickset.
@zippolighter4903
@zippolighter4903 2 роки тому
Was it the Wolverine one?
@OliverCGoetz
@OliverCGoetz 2 роки тому
@@zippolighter4903 No, the one with Doctor Strange and the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
@frankiesomeone
@frankiesomeone 2 роки тому
Also the chinese set with the candle illegally clipped to the 1x1 tile with clip
@derekchapman2027
@derekchapman2027 2 роки тому
Yeah that set screams that no one actually physically built the set and they just relied on a computer program
@SpykersB
@SpykersB 2 роки тому
Glad u said that Oliver, because I swear I’ve built and wondered if that was what the instructions said, so just knowing ‘it’ happens makes it less questionable when it does occur. 🍻
@Excellsion
@Excellsion 2 роки тому
I feel like some of these would take a REALLY LONG TIME to cause damage, though, obviously the official definition doesn't care about how long it would take.
@TiagoCatarino
@TiagoCatarino 2 роки тому
Exactly. The definition is based upon stuff that happens in the real world like kids building a set and leaving it built for years.
@WalnutAnimations
@WalnutAnimations 2 роки тому
@@TiagoCatarino little siblings: are you sure about that?
@janheikel7751
@janheikel7751 2 роки тому
@@TiagoCatarino I'm pretty sure it's only adult builders who ever leave their lego sets built for more than a few days.
@mystic-malevolence
@mystic-malevolence 2 роки тому
@@janheikel7751 idk where you get that assumption, I always tried to keep my sets in one piece as a kid
@Mboy245
@Mboy245 2 роки тому
@@janheikel7751 Nope my big brother freehand built (as in it wasn't an actual set) a cathedral and left it built and forbade me fro doing anything with it or too it, much less touch it
@WiliamAfton1970
@WiliamAfton1970 7 місяців тому
I love it when people, who aren’t experts, try to correct an expert lol.
@ardmichielsen2977
@ardmichielsen2977 2 роки тому
I did a lot of plate connections (03:50) in the '80's with my Lego's. If you wanted to make a slum or a shed, that plate connection was the way to go and looked the most natural. Since then, Lego had lot of time improving them to release the stress in the plates that way. If they can improve the cones (03:17) to make former "illegal techniques" legal, they can do the same with the plates.
@Amy.Potter_Gryffindor_
@Amy.Potter_Gryffindor_ Рік тому
Smart
@affegpus4195
@affegpus4195 Рік тому
Decreasing plate thickness would however break everything else
@ardmichielsen2977
@ardmichielsen2977 Рік тому
@@affegpus4195 Yes, but calling a plate connection like I did for sheds or slums illegal is way to dramatic. It's not illegal to put just one plate and after a few knobs another one.
@davidwuhrer6704
@davidwuhrer6704 7 місяців тому
​@@ardmichielsen2977If you are a Lego engineer, you are not allowed to do that. As an end customer you can do with it whatever you want, of course (subject to the criminal code), but illegal builds will void the warranty.
@ardmichielsen2977
@ardmichielsen2977 6 місяців тому
​@@davidwuhrer6704But Lego had/has had enough time to make this "illegal" construction possible by adapting the plates. I made many "slums" this way in the '80s, so Lego has been dormant for over 40 years adjusting the plates to make it work.
@gmsniperx3623
@gmsniperx3623 2 роки тому
Before you say something people, think about it. The man was a LEGO designer. He obviously knows more than we do.
@WanganTunedKeiCar
@WanganTunedKeiCar 2 роки тому
_Nah man, I had a box with a bunch of Legos from Goodwill. Them techniques are illegal_
@gmsniperx3623
@gmsniperx3623 2 роки тому
@@WanganTunedKeiCar What?
@Lokear
@Lokear 2 роки тому
@@gmsniperx3623 Sarcasm.
@gmsniperx3623
@gmsniperx3623 2 роки тому
@@Lokear Ohh, ok.
@gmsniperx3623
@gmsniperx3623 2 роки тому
@@princessofthecape2078 I am neither a LEGO nerd nor a designer, so I don't really care about whether something is legal or illegal.
@devikwolf
@devikwolf 2 роки тому
This is a super cool explanation. For instance I never knew why the 1x1 clip was redesigned with arms that - at first glance - made it look less sturdy. Lego Engineers and set designers are really amazing at what they do!
@vampyessebel
@vampyessebel 2 роки тому
I recently continued with adding to my Lego collection, and have now built 2 major sets. I was actually wondering what the difference was between the solid studs and the hollow studs. Never knew that the Lego logo made a difference in the fit 😯 Thanks for the explanation 😊 Also, I have a complaint about a set I'm currently building, the new Hedwig on the books 🦉 📚 the base seems a bit unstable. all the Lego builds I've put together have all been pretty solid. I was just wondering if this was normal 🤔
@someoneelse7629
@someoneelse7629 2 роки тому
Hey, I own the bricks and Iown a dremel, if I need a 4½ piece, I make one, the logo on the knobs takes 0.1s to grind down, and the pins becomes the length I need them. If the pieces wants to separate, there is always superglue...
@jjkthebest
@jjkthebest 2 роки тому
For some of these it seems like they really could've designed them in a way that doesn't make those connections illegal.
@coasterblocks3420
@coasterblocks3420 4 місяці тому
Some could still be redesigned with no impact such as changing from a raised logo to a sunken LEGO. Others you have to really scratch your head - did LEGO really think people wouldn’t ever mix system with Technic?
@PlainDiscord
@PlainDiscord 2 роки тому
For a long long time I have wanted ot know what Legos actually considers illegal. With your background as a Lego employee, this goes above and beyond explaining why we shouldn't do illegal connections and what is an illegal connection.
@TiagoCatarino
@TiagoCatarino 2 роки тому
Glad I could help!
@GameCyborgCh
@GameCyborgCh 5 місяців тому
a question i have is why are the bricks not designed to allow these illegal connections? it's seems like it would only be a tiny change that doesn't affect anything else
@leximatic
@leximatic 3 місяці тому
The old 1x1 clips were breaking even when you made _legal_ connections like adding a simple 4L bar or minifig tool. It's only one example how elements break just from the originally intended stress. Many of transparent parts with clips, transparent 1x1 plates round and squared, Bionicle sockets for balljoints, bushings for Technic crossbars and so on. The all tend to break by just the normal use. Sad.
@Koowluh
@Koowluh 2 роки тому
"What are you in for?" "Illegal Lego building techniques." "And they didn't send you to the chair? Lucky!"
@enigmalfidelity
@enigmalfidelity 2 місяці тому
😂😂😂
@matthewwriter9539
@matthewwriter9539 2 роки тому
My first thought when I heard about illegal builds... "Dude! These are my Legos. The whole point is to be creative. How can anything I do with them be illegal." Lego set designer: "Some things will wear out or damage your legos." Me: "Alright. Yeah. I'll go with that." ...though I still think "illegal" might be a little strong.
@solame4983
@solame4983 3 місяці тому
Thank you for teaching me these illegal techniques that you use in your builds!
@wolff000
@wolff000 2 роки тому
I did all kinds of stuff with my Legos that warped and damaged them. As far as I was concerned this is what they were meant for, playing and being creative. Finding new ways to use the bricks was a big part of the fun.
@DrTofu83
@DrTofu83 2 роки тому
That's exactly the point. No one will ever really sic the "Lego police" on you if you warp, bend, crush, paint, glue or eat your LEGOs. LEGOs are meant to be creative. Illegal is just shorthand for "You tried something fancy, and you broke the brick. Your fault mate, next time you'll be luckier" Still, many "illegal" tecnicques stress the bricks, but do no lasting damage on them. Good for you then ^_^
@WEENUS157
@WEENUS157 2 роки тому
@@DrTofu83 yeah,why do you think lego has tryed new things like paper and legos.
@DrTofu83
@DrTofu83 2 роки тому
@@WEENUS157 Lego is creativity, we all know that. Every single kid (and sometimes not kids) in his past has is fair share of mishandled, manhandled, broken LEGO pieces. Sadly, today we live in a society where if someone breaks a LEGO piece he goes on Facebook complaining about "shoddy quaility"
@javaguru7141
@javaguru7141 2 роки тому
I agree in principle but there is one genuine reason to educate and encourage people not to use illegal designs: there is a large used market for lego bricks, and they increase the risk of damaged bricks unintentionally ending up on the market.
@CoralCopperHead
@CoralCopperHead 2 роки тому
@@DrTofu83 "Sadly, today we live in a society where if someone breaks a LEGO piece he goes on Facebook complaining about "shoddy quaility"" *[CITATION NEEDED]*
@pi172
@pi172 2 роки тому
You didnt answer the real question though: How many former Lego designers spend their rest of their lifes rotting in danish prison cells for these illegal building techniques?
@TiagoCatarino
@TiagoCatarino 2 роки тому
That's classified...
@gabrieltellez8148
@gabrieltellez8148 2 роки тому
@@TiagoCatarino So your saying its more then 1...
@tonyromano6220
@tonyromano6220 2 роки тому
Funny!
@tonyromano6220
@tonyromano6220 2 роки тому
@@TiagoCatarino I thought the NWO was frightening……
@lester44444
@lester44444 2 роки тому
feels like eventually, there will have to be similar updates and iterations to how the cone had a stop added in, or at least new bricks with standardized tolerances will have to slowly be introduced to phase out old tolerances - I can only dream of the day when all of technic can be totally compatible with all of system without any illegal techniques haha
@concordegaming5037
@concordegaming5037 2 місяці тому
I didn't realize the new 1x1 tile with clip with tile connected was a legal building technic. I have seen this on both the Creator Blue Power Jet and the Icons Discovery sets, with the clip holding a 1x1 tile up for a heads-up display. I always thought that was illegal, but I realize now it isn't. I have however added an illegal building technique to the Discovery set to make the explosive cover for the drogue chute that goes at the base of the tail. While the Technic pin + 1x1 stud does allow the bottom of the tail to line up with the rudder/brake, it does put strain on the pin as it cannot expand inside the 1x3 inverted slope. It's been in there so long that it has practically conformed itself to the hole and no longer is under much strain anymore. I now realize this is also inaccurate, as STS-31 (which the set is based on) didn't have this drogue chute. It was first flown on STS-49, the maiden flight of Endeavour, almost 2 years after Discovery carried the Hubble Telescope to orbit. Also, if you're wondering what the hell a "drogue" chute is, it can also be called a drag chute, but I first picked up the term while playing Kerbal Space Program.
@Honne1064
@Honne1064 2 роки тому
This video will be used in a court if the LEGO cops decide to arrest Tiago.
@TiagoCatarino
@TiagoCatarino 2 роки тому
NOOOOO
@Memer9456
@Memer9456 2 роки тому
imagine telling a former lego employee that their builds are illegal
@GamingPalOllieMK
@GamingPalOllieMK Рік тому
Even if they are tho, what normal human being would give a shit this video is so frustrating to me because it showed me a world I wasn't aware of, I dunno why youtube recommended it, I have no interest in bloody legos but to see so much elitism surrounding friggin legos only confirms to me that we live in a clown world and this shit needs to end on all fronts. people need to shut the fuck up and stop being elitist and controlling over every aspect of entertainment
@tylerddh
@tylerddh 2 роки тому
Holy moly, Legos are way more involved than i ever imagined
@thomaslefeuvre1
@thomaslefeuvre1 7 місяців тому
love the pace of this video!
@flaminghive
@flaminghive 2 роки тому
Very nice to see a thorough breakdown of *why* certain techniques are illegal.
@deadlineuniverse3189
@deadlineuniverse3189 2 роки тому
My definition of illegal building techniques before this video: Everything that doesn’t look like Lego would voluntarily put into a build instruction. My definition after: Everything that can batter the brick.
@nunyobusiness835
@nunyobusiness835 2 роки тому
Ive been using lego bricks how I see fit since I first owned them in the late 70s. Im not gonna stop making things just becuase its illegal.
@isaaclearningtominecraft4751
@isaaclearningtominecraft4751 2 роки тому
Some Lego sets have builds that makes blocks, mostly clips, very easy to break. Even though they are not "illegal". Eg, clipping a long rod in a direction that the torque produced by pushing the rod readily breaks it. Be careful.
@Flyingbrickyard
@Flyingbrickyard 2 роки тому
I remember back when a vertical plate between studs was in some official build instructions. Though that would've been close to 40 years ago at this point.
@Zach-cs5rp
@Zach-cs5rp 2 роки тому
This is awesome! I would always direct any non-Lego friends to the "Stressing the Elements" powerpoint by Jamie Berard when they'd hear me talking about my builds or see the ever so misunderstood memes, but this more 'hands-on' video is way more intuitive and thorough (as well as being more modern with the new cone and 1x1 tile with clip molds).
@TiagoCatarino
@TiagoCatarino 2 роки тому
Based this video on that powerpoint!
@R0Sch88
@R0Sch88 2 роки тому
@@TiagoCatarino Some of the old illegal builds from that powerpoint are outdated now, like sticking a transparent bar in the hole of another transparent part. The new trans clear material is not polycarbonate any more, it's the softer MABS now, so the friction is same as regular opaque bricks. That's why we see so many new recolored parts in transparent nowadays.
@Zaximillian
@Zaximillian 2 роки тому
That PowerPoint presentation should be required viewing for many builders. We stumbled upon that presentation and re-presented it at one of our LUG meetings.
@theabsurdfan
@theabsurdfan Рік тому
The ship in a bottle set is one of my favorites and I want it, its really cool you helped design it!
@brianbuchwak9981
@brianbuchwak9981 Рік тому
I damaged a lot of lever pieces making penguins using cones, only half avoided cracking after a year, and i switched to the cylinder
@BrickBending
@BrickBending 2 роки тому
That was a great video!
@TiagoCatarino
@TiagoCatarino 2 роки тому
Oh no
@yjonesy
@yjonesy 2 роки тому
@@TiagoCatarino "Oh no" 🤣🤣
@legospacememe8468
@legospacememe8468 2 роки тому
@@TiagoCatarino what have you done. You promised to protect the brick not destroy them
@Ilikerawfish
@Ilikerawfish 2 роки тому
Some men just want to watch the world burn...
@SpeedIdran
@SpeedIdran 2 роки тому
Man, this is funny
@redhawkneofeatherman261
@redhawkneofeatherman261 2 роки тому
If you think your lego techniques are illegal, remember: I have willingly cut peices to size when I have lacked the right peice and colour, quite a few times.
@thedemolitionmuniciple
@thedemolitionmuniciple 5 місяців тому
Currently debating doing so with old blue 16x32 baseplates to have my ocean water flush with the wall. Still haven't bit the bullet though.
@josiahjack455
@josiahjack455 5 місяців тому
That's just messed up
@forbiddenchannel4901
@forbiddenchannel4901 3 місяці тому
you should be put on trial for crimes against humanity.
@acmenipponair
@acmenipponair 3 місяці тому
Also: other companies have no problem in inventing new pieces that fit the purposes of the "illegal" building techniques, it's only LEGO that are too stupid to come up with good bricks :D
@thebeeselise
@thebeeselise Рік тому
I've never seen plates deflect like that when you bind plates between studs vertically
@chucksucks8640
@chucksucks8640 Рік тому
I always wondered if inserting a plate between studs was legal. I know I used it a lot when I was a kid because I needed to go vertical many times. Lego should make the plates in such a way that the plates can be wedged between the studs without damaging them.
@dianastasny9338
@dianastasny9338 2 роки тому
Would love to see some of this long term damage. I'm personally infamous for stressing bricks in my designs and despite having been assembled for years under tension they always spring back.
@Avram42
@Avram42 2 роки тому
It appears to me that many of these "illegal" connections were just a lack of foresight on the original designs as far as cross-compatibility goes. In some cases they were directly addressed with a re-design and it seems that some of them are simply just too late to fix (e.g. technic vs. normal alignments & lego logo protrusion). Can you honestly say that with a blank design slate that all of these incompatibilities are necessary?
@bermchasin
@bermchasin 2 роки тому
completely NOT necessary. They done f'd up and are still charging an arm and leg for bobo products. GARBAGE.
@potatow088
@potatow088 2 роки тому
@@bermchasin what the f
@bergauk
@bergauk 2 роки тому
Lego could definitely engrave the Lego logo into pieces and increase design compatibility but I don't think it'd really be worth retooling everything they currently use unless it really opened up design opportunities.
@koma-k
@koma-k 2 роки тому
@@bergauk The LEGO logo could easily be swapped from raised to recessed; the moulds used do have a finite lifespan, so while it would take several years they *could* choose to make this change. Whether it is worth it or not is probably mostly a question of principles. Is making a few, esoteric constructions "kosher" worth it vs. messing with a logo that has been unchanged for decades?
@joet3935
@joet3935 2 роки тому
@@koma-k I thought the LEGO Logo was a quality control device, like making sure the plastic was liquid enough to get all the way into the mold.
@GummiSammi
@GummiSammi 2 роки тому
Question. So if in the case shown in the thumbnail, if the side ways 1x1 brick was a technic brick with the hole facing up, would it be legal?
@RideTheTeacups
@RideTheTeacups 2 роки тому
Excellent explanation of why these techniques are & aren’t legal! I had never known the reasoning before. Thanks!
@gunnarsoderhielm3425
@gunnarsoderhielm3425 2 роки тому
I have seen so many videos talking about what's legal and illegal when it comes to building legos and I almost didn't click on this video, thinking I knew everything it was gonna say. But then I did anyway and actually learned so much more about the topic and also how to identify it more easily. Thanks a lot for the info.
@Eli_the_fiend
@Eli_the_fiend 2 роки тому
I was overjoyed when I learned that Lego redesigned those one by one clips because when I was a kid I remember the old designs broke a little too easily.
@adamjankoleno1133
@adamjankoleno1133 Рік тому
Fun fact: The cover of LEGO Harry Potter: Years 5-7 features an illegal building technique. The Godric Gryffindor's sword uses a clip holding a tile and when you look closer, it's definitely the old one (btw, the new one didn't even exist back then).
@Dean-sm5rt
@Dean-sm5rt 4 місяці тому
I do like the newish bracket pieces. Side paneling is one of my favorite building techniques.
@justafrogwithahat355
@justafrogwithahat355 2 роки тому
“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a Lego designer after being told that his techniques are illegal" - Some guy, probably
@albertosara416
@albertosara416 2 роки тому
I always thought illegal lego techniques were just a meme. I was wrong
@Johan_S847
@Johan_S847 2 роки тому
Yeah me too, I was just kidding he was using illegal technics💀
@GuiSmith
@GuiSmith 2 роки тому
I always thought it was just aesthetic stuff LEGO designers couldn't use or what looked like the pieces didn't line up in instructions. Turns out I was also wrong.
@TiagoCatarino
@TiagoCatarino 2 роки тому
It is a very serious business at LEGO!
@DrTofu83
@DrTofu83 2 роки тому
@@TiagoCatarino Not just LEGO. You can do a lot of kitbashing with any given kit, even sanding, gluing or putting undue stress on the used parts. If it works, works. If it doesn't, you just failed, no big deal :P
@Beading_Kate
@Beading_Kate Рік тому
❤ I am amazed how they expanded variety of details through decades. I played LEGO long before many of these fancy interesting bricks, connecting elements and shapes were introduced. So when I stumble on a video like this, I just watch with wide eyes 😯
@ianc8999
@ianc8999 10 місяців тому
After being away from Lego for twenty years, I was gobsmacked by the number of new pieces, and the amazing array of extra colours. Most of all though, is the way people use them in builds now - when I was a kid you'd think nothing of having studs up everywhere, now everything is so elegantly finished.
@stevekulwicki2316
@stevekulwicki2316 Рік тому
I feel like this is an essential video to watch, it useful knowing what can damage my Lego
@mackerel6099
@mackerel6099 2 роки тому
This is really cool and insightful, thank you for sharing. I was wondering if you could share more about what is different between a single stud plate going into a technic brick vs a larger plate doing the same and why one is okay but the other is illegal, what specifically is it about a multiple stud plate attempting that connection that makes it illegal?
@ChrisByram
@ChrisByram 2 роки тому
Such a clear definition and great examples!! Honestly didn't realize what was bad about using illegal connections. Very cool to see! Thank you!
@ProWierdchamp
@ProWierdchamp 7 місяців тому
One illegal LEGO thing I do is put the pin with a stud connection end on the bottom of a brick and it works
@ashetrash9534
@ashetrash9534 Рік тому
I don't know why this was recommended to me, and I didn't understand basically any of what you said, but thank you for opening me up to the intricacies of a world I didn't even know about.
@arrun5125
@arrun5125 2 роки тому
Lots of these cases seem so close to being fine but there is just a 0.01 mm difference or something that makes them not work. I would love to know the reasons why there are these slight differences? (e.g. why weren't the holes designed at exactly the same height, etc)
@HelixSnake
@HelixSnake 2 роки тому
I was surprised that the maximally illegal move was not in this video, the one where you stick an Axle 2L or 3L into a Bohrok Shoulder with something placed in the gap, making all 3 pieces permanently locked together with no way to separate them without breaking one or more of the pieces
@thatonewelshguy6959
@thatonewelshguy6959 2 роки тому
I would love to see that hard to picture it in my mind
@dolnikan4319
@dolnikan4319 2 роки тому
@@thatonewelshguy6959 Seconded. I can't imagine what it would look like at all.
@reidskull5018
@reidskull5018 2 роки тому
I don't know the names of the pieces so I'd like to see a picture as well
@listenhere1623
@listenhere1623 2 роки тому
@@reidskull5018 but if someone makes a video of that they will get a lot of hate for PLAYING the wrong way
@VexinatorDesigns
@VexinatorDesigns 2 роки тому
F
@Anthony-zk9xg
@Anthony-zk9xg Рік тому
Hello, is clipping a 1x1 plate (3024) to a modified 1x1 plate with a clip on the side (4085d) legal or illigal? I need to know this for my lego build. Love your videos!
@JustAn_Animator
@JustAn_Animator 7 місяців тому
Those comments really knew they screwed themselves up when he said " this is personal"
@damiendiaz7334
@damiendiaz7334 2 роки тому
For me, I feel a bit upset about some of the Bionicle Sets or combiners as some of them would be stressing pieces out in the long run and could damage them. It is crazy to see that some of them have slipped under the radar and was released
@masonwilliams9090
@masonwilliams9090 2 роки тому
3:07 Sadly it's not, it still gets stressed and ultimately broken. I have several new clips and they're mostly broken, I didn't even use any illegal techniques similarly in the video, only had them clipped on some bars and they're still broken so no new clip design doesn't really help
@stephenolan5539
@stephenolan5539 2 роки тому
Just curious does it seem to happen more when the air is dry? During the Winter for example.
@masonwilliams9090
@masonwilliams9090 2 роки тому
Nope it happens all the time. I mean I'm totally unable to notice when they break but whenever I check them, there's always cracks so idk if humidity can affect the plastic tho
@darkshock42mlg05
@darkshock42mlg05 Рік тому
Something interestings is i have halo megablox set of a scorpion. I left it built for yearrs then i come back and it seems that thr treads defored the wheels to where you can see indentations from them being left like that for so long as if someone melted the plastic and the treads are supposed to be in the wheels.
@njsbricks
@njsbricks Рік тому
I had not considered many of these more subtle, illegal techniques. cool video. Tiago that you are uniquely positioned to be able to make.
@Herbsy420
@Herbsy420 2 роки тому
Its kinda funny how I as a kid, didnt know that these are actually called illegal techniques, whenever I or my friends tried to build something using thes techniques I said it just didnt felt right to do it that way. So I kinda got a feeling for illegal techniques... I should become a Lego police officer!
@necroseus
@necroseus Рік тому
HEY!
@reedomu
@reedomu Рік тому
@@necroseus A man in Lego City is building with illegal techniques! Arrest him!
@pablesm
@pablesm 2 роки тому
1:02 the left one is legal with bootleg parts
@collinmcadams5983
@collinmcadams5983 Рік тому
That last gear-like one was actually REALLY cool
@jamesgilleylen4142
@jamesgilleylen4142 2 роки тому
At least I have been building correctly but still have bricks break, mostly the torso piece and arm connectio, ever think they will get fixed? Also I design in Lego Digital Designer and I improved some designs and made them simpler so anyway to get those reviewed for sets? If I build anything better all I want is to show people a better way
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