The very fact that two completely competent men in their fields have to even utter the statement "I don't know if we're allowed to talk about this" is a hallmark moment in how far down the scale we've come in medicine for profit. Health is no longer about 'health' but exploiting the lucrative nature of peoples' wish to be healthy. It's bloody tragic beyond belief. But I did learn so much from watching this one. Thank you so much for your keen insight Dr. Clancy and thank you Dr. Campbell for continually lending sanity to what has been an insanely difficult time.

Excellent! Why isn't Professor Robert Clancy leading our health response in Australia? His wisdom, knowledge and experience of age (often sadly ignored and even mocked in this era of youth worship), his clarity in communicating complex issues and his impressive achievements make him an ideal choice as Chief Medical Advisor to our hopeless political class. The issue of "Early Treatments" is something that desperately needs to be investigated post Covid and those responsible for blocking such treatments, need to be held to account.

As a retired professor in medical biochemistry, and a still active editor of a 67 year old local medical journal, I thank both of you for the free lecture on philosophy of science, on a platform in immunology. The beauty of holistic approach in quest of understanding living systems... A most comprehensive and yet comprehensible assessment of the waveform nature of actions and reactions in real life. Though at an infinitesimal scale, the feeling of being part of an unbiased and humble scientific community is personally a priceless reward, after decades of academic involvement. Thank you again, and thumbs up for the peaceful 'community-down-regulation' Aussie activists from a looong distance. 💗

Thank you John and Robert for an incredibly stimulating conversation. Hands down, this was the best crash course in immunolgy I've ever listened to.

I'm not a doctor, but I do have a background (and degree) in the biological medical sciences and although this talk is very interesting, I have to admit it was a little hard to follow sometimes. It would be helpful if Dr. Campbell do like a 10-15 min review video with his notes and charts to help the rest of us better understand this very important talk. I understand he's quite busy, but I think this is a very important topic that deserves a second look. I would love to share this video with family members and friends but honestly, I doubt they would understand half of it. Upvote if you agree!

Prof Robert Clancy - what a delight - a generous kind intelligent man sharing his knowledge - what a difference it could have been if the Australian Govt and the world had listened to him. That was what I would like to see more of - a sharing of ideas - a meeting of minds to help the world.. Thank you to both of you

After 2 years of researching the immune system on my own in the covid age we live in, this interview taught me even more! My thanks!!

Science devoid of politics! Science nuanced with years of trusted experience!! Science on a simplified level for all to understand.!!! We need 5-6 lectures from Dr Clancy on Immunology from basics to to an appreciable level that'll give us competence to have better discussions with one another.

Dr. John, i hope you get recognition for your contribution to science during the worst times of our lives. Thank you, thank you.

Well it's about time, nobody in Australia has even heard of Robert because of censorship. He and Mr Thomas Borody are both extraordinary Australians but have been ignored by Scott Morrison and Murdoch. Thank you to both men and John for the work they have done and continue to do. Cheers Gary 🇦🇺

Two wonderful educators at work, a masterclass our so-called leaders need to watch and learn from. Thanks again Dr John.

One of your best sessions John. What a superb guest!

It is incredible that someone with Professor Clancy's medical credentials cannot discuss early treatment medicines for fear of being closed down and censored!!!

What an absolute delight is Professor Robert Clancy, I could listen to him for hours. Why oh why are these two wonderful men not listened to by the people who supposedly make the decisions. They are both so knowledgeable,intelligent and articulate and if their calm commonsense had prevailed what a different outcome there would have been. Unfortunately vested interests rule the health outcomes of the world with neither care nor compassion, something both these men have in abundance. I wish we could reward them in some way for keeping us sane whilst the press do the biding of the Pharmacutical Companies who apparently now rule the world! Many thanks Dr Campbell for bringing us such excellent experts each day. with warm wishes from Australia. Carol

Apart from seeing you both teach so well, it is wonderful to hear a recognition of the history of vaccines (5 months in 2 previous pandemics - crazy!) and a level-headed, real-world, human-focussed discussion that shows a care for people above money. Thank you.

Heart felt thanks to the two wonderful doctors to be a beacon of light in this global Covid storm. Hope this will inspire many to join in this message of insight and good will.

I'm no scientist but I fully respect the input from the scientists here, and their huge effort to inform us.

How on earth can it possibly be that a recognized expert like Professor Clancy can't mention "widespread early treatments that are cheap and available" when talking about this pandemic? Have we gone insane? Censoring the people who are able to help us all? insanity!

Absolutely fantastic! and incredibly depressing at the same time - Please everyone here in Australia - send this video to our Government - they need to speak to Prof Clancy and quickly. Why hasn't he been consulted? I'm going to send this to our Premier here in WA - who is out of control. Thanks Dr Campbell your show is brilliant. Please let us know what happens with the BBC Blunder? Ali

Merci Messieurs, une très belle discussion scientifique, ce qui aujourd'hui semble malheureusement puni par les médias, comme dit professeur Didier Raoult en France, nous avons le droits d'être intelligents et la science doit revenir au centre.

When an expert in one's specialty can explain such a complex topic in layman's terms, s/he is a true educator. Absolutely incredible. Thank you for teaching us.

Professor Clancy is clearly a gentleman and a scholar. And he has some courage. Great to learn from him.

OH my gosh John, we're the same age - I can never tell anyone's age any longer. Thanks for bringing this educated Dr to share with us. Bless you all!

Great hearing two intelligent people with such integrity and understanding sharing their substantial knowledge to the wider community. And also given us insight into the complex nature of these biological systems all too often lost in our over-simplified soundbite culture.

Better late than never, 2 years!! Prof. Robert Clancy is the only doctor explaining the immune compartments clearly. This must be understood by more people.

Can we please press the like button when we see these clips? Dr. John needs more recognition and it will help his channel spread the right word! 🙏🏼🙏🏼

You're my most valuable UKposts subscription. I find your information coming in to my mind in relation to so many different health subjects outside of Covid. You're an excellent teacher. I appreciate you and your guests.

This has been one of the most enlightening discussions I have watched.

Terrific. Explains how Dr Chetty Africa who stated two stages. Day 1 to 7 virus replication Day 8 inflammation stage. He gave hydroxychloquine Stage 1 purpose to reduce viral load. Early treatment upon systems stop viral load. Then Stage 2 inflammation he treated with steriods. He also preventative to nurses no one got the virus plus no patient hospitalized. He set up tents adjacent to his home as limited medical facilities. His personal experience parallels everything discussed here

This is an absolutely superb interview and a good example of the value in listening to highly intelligent, well-informed, articulate experts discuss a topic. Just golden. I learned a great deal in a short time. This information should have a far wider audience!

I think I have a neurological "crush" on Professor Clancy. lol (not a romantic crush, just to be clear) I'm going to sit with this a while, and then listen again tomorrow....and maybe even a 3rd time. Thank you, Dr. Campbell and Professor Clancy for being generous with your time and knowledge. Enlightening and fascinating information! I'm just abuzz and exhilarated to begin learning this!

Thank you so much Dr Campbell for your daily data analyses and for inviting Prof Robert Clancy and all the other doctors and people on your videos. Such insight and sharing of knowledge! I wish national leaders would ask such eminent teachers for guidance, listen and learn. The world would be such a better, kind and normal place. Thank you 🙏

THANK YOU so much Dr Campbell for interviewing Prof Clancy, one of my heroes! I have been following him here in Australia since the beginning of the pandemic including his excellent articles on Covid-19 in Quadrant magazine. To think that the Australian Govt has constantly ignored his expertise - as well as Prof Thomas Borody - is mind blowing.

Prof Clancy was superb. He is a true blue Aussie of whom we can all be proud, unlike so many currently involved with "managing" Covid-19 in Australia.

Thank you both for giving us an understanding of how virus moves through us, how natural immunity works for us, how normal vaccines work on virus, and how the mRMA works on this virus. Along with your careful verbal dance through treatment, it totalled up to be the most valuable instructional talk to date. Must view for every decision maker in government.

Thank you John for this amazing interview with such phenomenal scientist professor Clancy. I wonder if the Broncostat vaccine for bronchitis he invented is the same as Ismigen tablets. However, Ismigen is not called a vaccine but a bacterial lysate, although based on the same bacteria as Broncostat. The doctor just prescribed this medication (Ismigen) for my wife. It seems like an amazing coincidence that I am listening to a fascinating conversation with Prof. Clancy and my wife is getting the medicine he developed.

Great men of incredible intelligence and wisdom. So SAD Dr Clancy is not chosen to be at the forefront of the health guidelines in Australia. Not only my understanding was confirmed, but I learnt so much more. God bless you both!

Superb interview John. Listening to Robert and yourself confirms to me that this is a pandemic of incompetence, lies and greed. The fact early treatments are deemed a taboo subject is absurd. Thanks again for the hard work and efforts John

Dr. Campbell, thank you for inviting Dr. Clancy for explaining immunology between how Covid-19 Virus attacks the systemic response in the respiratory track. And thank you, Dr. Clancy for coming on Dr. Campbell 's UTube show. Your information is very informative.

It's really beautiful to see the enthusiasm of these older gentlemen in sharing their valuable knowledge with the world. It must be quite satisfying to have one's lifetime of learning be recognized and made use of so dramatically. Love and respect to you John Campbell

This was so incredibly informative. I’ll listen to it and study it several times. My blood boils to hear a discussion at this level restrained from even mentioning the names of amazing life saving medicines due to censorship possibility. I attended the march and presentations by courageous doctors and people who are suffering adverse reactions to genetic vaccines yesterday in Washington DC.

The doctor at Kings College Hospital who refused the vaccines, said he already had Covid19 antibodies, worked in the ICU for 20 months with many infected patients, tried to explain to the health minister that this was one of the reasons he did not want the vaccine (he faces losing his job in April) He said very soon we would need boosters every few weeks.

Please do more recordings with prof Clancy. So so informative and together you make it easier to understand and interesting facts come to light.

that was so informative, thank you for treating us like adults and giving us the facts, Dr Clancy is just great to listen to, absolutely top podcast

Such a fascinating and in some ways chilling conversation. It would be helpful if Dr Campbell would do a recap and explain to us non-scientists what he learned from Dr Clancy about how the mucosal immune system works and interacts with the general (?) immune system. And more about the suppressor T cells and how they work. Finally, it really is chilling to hear these 2 scientists and experts censored by these social media platforms when the “scientists” who act as media hacks when appearing on our network tv shows simply spread a false narrative.

As a practicing Periodontist I am very familiar with this aspect of the immune system. The mouth and upper airway contains hundreds of bacteria, viruses and fungi which the body during health can keep in check. Any time the balance changes you have disease. Excellent presentation.

Thanks Dr Campell for that Interview with professor Robert Clancy what a breath of fresh air to listen to two experts without the Doom and Gloom rhetoric you get from Main stream media , and from the " Health officials " Here in Australia , thanks and keep up the good work.

Best scientific interview I've seen. Accessible to even a basic understanding, thought provoking and exhilarating to others, and personally I found it quite validating. Thank you both.

Professor Clancy spoke in support of early treatment with ivm and hydroxy in 2020 and said on the censored radio program: ‘I have had the worst 24 hours of my life, I wanted to crawl under a rock.’ He co-authored clinical papers on ivm with Professor Thomas Borody . It’s such a pity Prof. Borody can’t be interviewed on this channel about this therapy.

As an Aussie, finally an Australian doctor I can be proud of again.

Thanks Dr JC & Dr Clancy, this hour shines with medical brilliance from clinicians (medical professionals who SEE patients). At 20:20 "Scientific vaccination strategies". At 26:00 food allergy suppression & multiple vax.

Wow, this is one of the most informative videos I have seen. As a teacher being able to explain complex topics in simple terms is a skill and Prof Clancy is one of the best I have seen for a very long time. Thank you for such a great video and a dose of common sense as well.

Fascinating discussion, and a shame you had to self-censor when discussing early treatments. Thank you to both of you.

Dr. John Campbell Thank you so much. As a healthcare professional in the US, YOU have provided me more indepth information than our own government, CDC, and NIH has provided. As a HC professional of 45 years in acute care, my most profound duty is to educate others in healthcare besides hands-on practice. You are doing a wonderful job. You are my resource to provide that healthcare education to others. THANK YOU>

What an awe inspiring covid discussion between two renowned doctors (although the Aussie far more) totally absent of money and politics shaping their talking points!! Just pure science, true empirical findings and insightful clues to fighting the pandemic (or is it the endemic now) the right way. Thank you John and Robert!!

Dr. John, I've been on board with you, for over 2 years, now. I knew that, because of your balanced scientific approach; your facts would be checked by the purveyors of "the narrative". You are amongst the mere, several, doctors and scientists; whom I felt actually cared about people; and not compliance, and pharmaceutical profiteering. I'm still on board with you for this reason.

It is deeply satisfying to hear two professionals communicate clearly, with mutual respect and willingness to learn.

I have been listening to Dr. John for the past couple of months and it's a breath of fresh air to be able to actually hear someone who not only understands how to critically read and translate scientific data, but can do it absent of his own agenda. The session with Prof. Robert Clancy is especially eye-opening. These presentations beg the question, "Do those is power, making decisions, actually pay any attention to the experts?" From the beginning of this pandemic we have been told over and over that the decision makers are following the science. Really?

Phenomenal discussion! Thank you both for the pure and true science, free of any political influences

This Prof is brilliant both with his knowledge and ability to communicate it in simple lay person terms! Thank you!

This has to be one of the best podcasts and guest that puts things into perspective for us.. Thank you both.

Excellent! I've always heard immunity starts in the gut and Dr. Clancy has connected the dots. Thanks to you John Campbell, for ferreting out more interesting facts for us!

Very informative and educational! Thank you, John and Robert, for sharing this with us. John, your technical ability is certainly up to the task. I kind of wish you gentlemen would be free to name names!

This one is a highly appreciated talk between two medical experts/doctors having their humanistic passion in mind for the sake of human health and open minded thinking.

Thank you John for bringing the amazing Professor Robert Clancy to your channel. Listening to this conversation makes remember how medical experts used to talk to each other - respectfully and with mutual admiration. It was lovely to see your excitement with all the learning. And it was amazing to listen to the rational, knowledgeable and grounded master class that Professor Clancy gave on immunology. None of this nonsense that seems to have overtaken the pharmaceutical companies. As he says, you have to think in medicine but, unfortunately, it seems that doctors have stopped thinking critically and doubting their own instincts, skills and wisdom. I live in Western Australia and I wish the government in this country would listen to the great doctors like him and start treating people early. It is way overdue. Thank you, John! Amazing conversation!

The last section after some 40mins are most interesting. Pr. Clancy stays polite not saying the current vaccines are probably very dangerous (whereas early treatment is not at all!)

It sounds like we need a platform where we can talk freely about the things we're not supposed to talk about! Free speech and voicing opinions should not be suppressed!

Thank you Dr. John Campbell for the wonderful presentation on the human immune system with Professor Robert Clancy!!! I really appreciate the information, thank you... from Washington state USA....

Fantastic as ever. A great lesson and what a wonderful man Robert is. Shame we don't have expert advisors with the same expert knowledge. The science is there for those in the know.

I am gobsmacked with amazement by these scientists. The clarity in their explanation of physiological aspects of their discipline can be almost visualized by a lay person such as myself. Excellent educators, amazing. Thank you Lord for such great minds.

What a great gentleman you were able to interview John, very well done. Geoff miller SRN ( ret. )

It's mind blowing to hear the two of you talk so plainly about early drug treatment as if this is the most obvious early steps. I never wanted to get my medical advice from politicians. Thank you for speaking so candidly and expertly on this subject.

I did not think I would watch this for an hour but I found it fascinating. Despite the fact that I did not understand the terminology, the principles came over loud and clear. Thank you both.

Whoa! Between the two of you my Brain hurts! Lots of respect to both of you. You’re intelligence is nothing short of genius. I certainly appreciate your sharing this knowledge with us and taking the time to help educate us on how to help ourselves. I watch all of your videos. You’re my favorite on the subject of Covid.

You would have to say this is an earth-quaking discussion. In one hour every aspect of this epidemic is explained in a clear and basic language. Like Dr Campbell I learnt so much here. I have followed Prof.Clancy since June '21 when he spoke on an ABC regional radio program. Of course no one asked him to speak on a major ABC programme where he might have influenced the understanding and treatment of this disastrous disease. What a missed opportunity. Will anyone listen even now?

What an absolute pleasure to hear from a highly credentialed, competent expert casting some light on a very dark period of our medical history in Australia, in which information contrary to the government's vaccination program , has been suppressed.

Dr Campbell, if you'd like to discuss early treatments with someone like Dr Clancy you may want to consider creating a channel on Odysee where you may very well discuss that in depth without worrying about censorship, demonetization, etc.

Thanks, Dr. John and Prof. Clancy, for an enlightening talk well-done. My field was Urology, but Dad’s PhD was in Experimental Medicine (Montreal, stress research under Selye, after Nephrology work under Vollhard in FFM). He was well aware of all the compartments (Integumentary, Respiratory, G-I tract, Urogenital, Cerebrospinal, Vascular…). He specialized in Allergy / Rheumatology, and passed along a lot to his five kids - most importantly: recognize what you don’t know, and work to find out!

After watching (listening ) to this I am forced to rethink my opinion on the efficacy of ivermectin on possibly COVID 19 prophylaxis and probably COVID 19 treatment. Thanks for the informed and rational approach you have eloquently presented. It brings back memories of working with you in the seventies, Robert , when I was not only impressed with your pioneering skills in immunology but your forthright approach to engage with the Medical Bureaucracy .

Great lecture. Professor Clancy was in Newcastle,where my X-Ray professor Lindsay Rowe ended up being an Assistant Professor. He was the greatest teacher I ever had, as well as an amazing person. It was funny when you were talking about the Peyer's Patches being in the guts and you mentioned the lymph nodes in the armpits. Lindsay helped me a lot to visualize my shoulder, since I suffered a severe orthopedic condition which caused me to completely change my treatment approaches. And I developed techniques for the shoulder based on the Subscapularis muscle. In fact I would tell people it was the second most important muscle after the gluteus maximus. And when I would treat the subscapularis, I would regularly generate borborygmus (growling) of the intestines with the treatment. I told people for years there was a relation between the subscap and the gut, and this really makes me want to look at this further. There is another relationship between the strength of the hip muscles and the shoulder. I would test the muscles of the hip before treating the shoulder, and if they were weak before, they would be much stronger after. I told patients that I think it is linked to the lymphatic system. You comments really make me think it's true.

Former colleague of mine has a boy who was dangerously allergic to peanuts, and he went through a de-sensitization program over something like a year and a half where they started by giving him miligrams of peanuts, and by the end of it it was getting up to ten peanuts with no reactions. He doesn't need to keep an epi-pen with him now.

Over 2 Million Subscribers - Dr. Campbell is on fire !

You are not allowed to talk about Ivermectin etc. you might be in danger of being cancelled. What a marvellous discussion of truth and with such humility and humour.

Thank you very much for this interview, Robert Clansy is an extraordinary man, Australian as I use to see 35 years ago, where have they all gone? 😊

Absolutely outstanding. I've learned so much from this. Thank you both.

Two passionate learners, with one taking on the teacher role.

Brilliant conversation! Tuned in with you Dr Campbell in early 2020 and thank you, for your continued imparting of knowledge & logic in 2022. I'm sure that if the likes of yourself & Professor Clancy were included in solving a pathway out of this pandemic from the get go we would have been at an endemic stage way way sooner. Knowledgable, thoughtful, measured and reasoned gentlemen. Thank you for your selflessness. Respect and great health to you both.

Phew My science background ended with Physics in 1966 so it is a mission to even keep up. The thing is though it is on tape and I can get back to it in a way that we couldn't in 1968. Pulling all nighter s is a bit harder in your 70's! But with you plus a lot of escapism to deal with my death awareness which Prof Robert so gently reminded our delightfully enthusiastic Prof John....thankyou also to wife Christine and daughter and John Campbell's son your contributions.

I find it shocking that we have two well educated, caring and compassionate men who have dedicated thier lives to learning biology and medicine in order to help people and now talk and learn and share information, and they keep saying we are not allowed to talk about certain topics. Not allowed?! Surely this isn't right. What a world we live in.

Finally, this conversation is way overdue. Why is this wonderful gentleman not being interviewed in Australia on main stream media. Thank you Dr Campbell. I would love it if you could maybe break down what Professor Clancy talked about as some of it was quite technical. I know other people have asked for that as well. Basically, the take home message is that early treatment should have been prioritised. The vaccines never were the only answer to the pandemic.

Thank you doctors for the great conversation and the education! I always have had trouble staying focused during lectures, but your conversation kept me intrigued and wanting to learn more because of your enthusiasm. You have and will continue to change the world. I hope the right people will listen and take notes to what you both are saying and implement change.

One of the more fascinating videos i have ever seen. Thanks John for having Dr. Clancy...

So sad we can’t hear a discussion of specific meds advised (by sound science) to be taken early in the infection due to “fact checkers” that can’t think their way out of a paper sac. Keep up the great work!

How fantastic. As a retired Nurse I still love listening to professionals talking about how our whole immune system works. It never ceases to amaze me how clever our body is. I had flu in December 2019, at least I assume it was flu and have never been so ill in my life. I thought I was going to die, but very gradually I got better. Worst flu I've ever had and I don't want it again thank you 😁

Thank you for this interesting conversation. I am intrigued and enlightened. I have worked with GP's in the States for 20 years in an office support capacity and absorbed so much information during that time and continue while watching Dr. Campbell and his interesting interviews. Thank you again.

Astonishingly clear presentation for an off the cuff chat. Prof. Clancy is so clear, so reasoned, and so patient that I wonder why his voice has not been heard more often.

Clear and penetrating presentation, as always. Thank you both! One minor regret: no explicit therapeutic guidance from your guest, and it's a little sad to see that even a distinguished professor of immunology explicitly feels a bit UNfree to go into that important area of discussion.

This goes into the Share To All category..being able to make all this stuff mentally digestible speaks to how great you two must be at teaching...many thanks

This video is a must watch - perhaps one of the best discussions I've seen so far in terms of providing accurate information about the pandemic and what happens next. Good to see John's UKposts followers include world leading immunologists like Bob Clancy (University of Newcastle). Shame our politicians and public health 'experts' are so clueless about these basic mechanisms driving Covid infections and the dire consequences for the ongoing ignorance, particularly Western Australia.

Great to see not only the sharing of information but the actual excitement and enthusiasm, it sweeps you along with it. WHY CAN"T those in the government listen to this and get guidance from people like these?