Could u post those pictures online? Maybe post the link here?

There are hundreds of photos. They are not online.

I don't believe you. Bye

@@debbielannen2089 POST THEM

She loved it while people died in front of her?

Yeah I think there is more to it then that. Goodyear has been in business since 1898 and Akron till this day is considered the rubber capital of the world and the only American company to this day that still does not outsource. Ford was a decent man but he still was greedy. I think he wanted his own monopoly and he didn't want to dispute with American companies. He was trying to out source at a time when American manufacturing was still strong.

@@anthonygordon9483 Ford no doubt wanted to have vertical control of the entire car manufacturing process. The video mentions this, so there is no point in me mentioning it in my comment. The video doesn't mention the monopoly that the British and Dutch had on (raw) rubber. It's also why Ford went to Brazil instead of just buying a plantation in Malaysia or Indonesia (which would have been easier) because he would have had to participate in the cartel the British and Dutch formed. Goodyear had to buy the raw rubber from the British and Dutch at that time. I can assure you there are no rubber plantations in Akron Ohio. My comment definitely wasn't intended to oversimpfly things nor was intended to say that Ford didn't want vertical integration. If that's how it came across I apologize. Rather it was intended to provide additional information missing from the video that in my opinion is extremely important in explaining some the questions I had when watching it. (They talked about rubber in Asia why didn't Ford just build his Fordlandia there? Why go through all of that trouble when there were other commodities he didn't control?(although he controlled alot)).

@@ericburton5163 No offense. I got it.

Thanks for the comment, I thought of the omission immediately as well.

He used industrial soya for interior vehicle parts, if it was engineered further it could have been suitable for tyres. The fact large Dandelion produce rubber type substance that is used in the EU. Industrial soya first used in China as a green manure may have provided if engineered with other material a solution. Land based transport as with sea transport operates in primitive mode .

Thanks for confirming stuff like this, really hard to know if what you're hearing is getting the same point across in both languages and having someone who can back up whether translations are good or bad is like peer review :)

You made no mention of Eduardo Sguiglia’s comments which were made in Spanish. You’re a chauvinist.

@@estebancorral5151 To be honest, portuguese do look very similar to spanish, but i dont have knowledge to say if the translation of that part of the video is accurate.

The translation was so crisp.

@@viktor8928 mas seu sotaque era tão claro. Ele é de PA tbm.

Most of the stuff built today would not last long in the Amazon rain forest.

Did you not see "failed" in the title?

@@user-cw2py6wh8l The system failed not the stuff. lol

@@GrandChessboard agreed, our modern slapped together toothpick wood chip formaldehyde cardboard homes would fall apart so quickly!

@@user-cw2py6wh8l they achieved making a historical site.

I've always been told that you may not have a choice about being poor but being dirty is a choice.

Same happened to Bunnings Australia. Australian culture is very much diy and trade projects at home. Bunnings didn't realise that the dynamic and weather in the UK is completely.different. Bunnings failed in the UK. Bunnings is a huge hardware store in Australia

Yes there is. There’s ASDA in the U.K. which is a version of Walmart adapted for the U.K. market. Although it was recently sold and is no longer owned by Walmart.

@@jryalls 'one day I went to ASDA, I went to shoplift in ASDA, then I got caught in ASDA, now I don't go back to ASDA'

Like Dominos thinking it was a bright idea to sell pizza in Italy of all places lol

Yet Starbucks has been able to push its own American business model unto the world without adapting to local demographics and customs. Instead, the people adapted to Starbucks.

I also visited, in spring 2018. There was a very eerie derelict American suburbia type village nearby

@@hodgepodge51 yeah the amazon is infested with satan

Like the little 'perfect' towns dotted around deserted parts the US that were built by energy companies.

Henry Fords book inspired Hitler enough to take action.

@@MerkleAkrunphleuphle And?

Definitely almost nobody knows about Fordlandia!

Brazil and the US were Allies because Germany sank innocent Brazilian ships. Read the autobiography of Vernon Walters.

@@estebancorral5151 true !🙏👊👊👊

@@estebancorral5151 actually the US forced them to be friends

@@agentepolaris4914 That's a lie

he could have had spies visit the successful rubber plantations elswhere and get it right

Correct, the large Dandelion is used in the EU to create tyres. In China they have several sources, including ancient Fossil trees, that grew in other parts of the Planet. Thank you.

He should have talked to the native people, too. They could have explained how to do it properly, but they were considered ignorant.

Ford was a known open racist he didn't give a shit about Brazil

@@cremebrulee4759 Yep the locals would have had an ecological understanding of the area that would dwarf even the most educated botanists from the industrial world, in terms of real world practical solutions.

Ninguém toca no meu açaí com tapioca, muito menos no meu tambaqui.

What food they ate in fordlandia was devoid of nutrition. Very cruel when you know they were hunting, fishing, gathering fruits, and growing vegetables before, and now reduced to bland empty carbohydrates.

i think feeding hunter-gatherer foresters and nomadic workers on cheap foreign carbs might be a bad idea

I think the workers buying and eating food they wanted with what was described as generous wages was an easy solution to the diets. But it was too much of a cultural clash between an industrial people and those who were at the extreme end of not. Neither side is the bad guy. That's an ignorant, modern viewpoint on this. Rioting and looting because of what was a few minor cafeteria rules seems a little extreme too. Or complaining that the owners were very strict because you had to punch in for work on time. At the time in history, there was a health clinic in Michigan (Battle Creek) advocating the bland diet like that as being the healthiest thing for a person. They thought they were doing what was best for the people, not a cheap carb food source. They were spending millions of dollars so they were not trying to cut a few pennies here.

Joes Williams, Henry Ford was a racist control freak. I am surprised anyone agreed with these living conditions at all.

Joel Williams, sorry. I did not mean to misspell your name.

They know everything about us and about what we watch.

racism and speciesism. he probably believed that whites should dominate everyone else and machines should dominate nature.

That's what I was thinking. That sure was a nice lathe. I bet it wasn't made in China!

this guy has a ginormous lathe in an old shop. Give him some material, and he'll build a steel christo redentor for fordlandia!!!

@@enturnetrol7869 maybe you should read the book before making an ignorant comment

I have a sneaking suspicion...

@Save 🇺🇸 civilization? A bunch of factoried that are available elsewhere? Ford brought civilization but he also brought the unadaptable self entitlement his kind was always known for Civilization my ass Nothing civilized about not studying a region before building a 100 million dollar town in it

I doubt he was eating oatmeal, rice and bread. He didnt understand some dont worship the almighty dollar

There's still a Ford Motor Company - so it didn't do him in. But maybe hurt him a bit.

@Save 🇺🇸 you believe that a person that lives in a big house full of accumulated things is better, more successful and happier than a person that doesn’t?!

@Save 🇺🇸 Ford didn't bring civilization. Learn your terms before you begin to use them. He brought industrialization to the untamed Amazon. It had nothing to do with "civilization wasn't appreciated". Civilization always existed within those communities. Ford had no regard for social stratification, government, cultures and identities. Similarly to how the Americans complain about immigrants not fitting into the American culture, Ford did the same to the people of the Amazon. His biggest defeat was of course, a disregard to the environment first and the natives second. Ford assumed that developing in a wet tropical rain forest would be as easy as developing in a temperate grasslands and forests (like in Michigan). Even the Asian plantations mentioned in the video were established in dry rain forests, which is a night and day difference compared to the Amazon. The Amazon region has the potentiality to become one of the most successful regions in the world, however they face the most difficult challenges any civilization has encountered. Their environment. The Europeans in contrast have had the most easily tamed environments even when compared to the Americans, Arabs, Asians or Africans.

Americans wouldn't eat that crap every single day It's one of those "brave new world" diets. They're trying to do this again, except with bugs. The workers were right to rebel. All they had to do was let people bring their own food, and share recipes with the cooks. It woulda saved Ford a ton of money to do so

Yeah! Why are the protecting the bastard?

Because it's a business channel

Screw Ford we dont need to support them

@@SquigglesZero was he protected in this? The fellow toward the end who enumerated what they did right -- the capital, the technology, etc. pointed out that the disrespect for the people and the region was at the core of the failure of Fordlandia. What could be a more scathing observation than that? He said it without passionate rancor, though, so it must come across as neutral...

Cause pro America🤮🤮 9/11 coming to a major city near you soon

Recent lidar evidence shows that there were urban centers there in the the past and it may not be as virgin as thought.

Manaus was the center of the world rubber trade in the 19th century. The Asian production started when someone took seeds from Brazil and brought them to Southeast Asia. Then Asia dominated production. This video implies that Asia was first and that Ford was doing something new in Brazil.

Manaus was already a huge city before Ford. Also, you have no idea how big the amazon is, 99,9% of the jungle is absolutely hostile to human living.

@@raclark2730 Do not besmirch the honor of the innocent jungle.

@@fluffylittlebear I hear the jungle was sneaking out at night.

Indeed the hardwoods in the region do not rot-and many will sink in water. That kind of wood lasts (unless attacked by termites). Ford actually had a lumber mill that sawed up the trees they had cut down while clearing the land. That operation made a profit.

brazil is known for wood today.

Tropical hardwoods are in demand worldwide. But they are a scarce commodity and expensive. They do not grow quickly, and so are difficult to replenish. There are tropical locations that are growing rapidly and therefore clearing land and cutting down trees of great value. To my way of thinking, it's a shame that the forest is destroyed this way, but I can't fault poor people for clearing forests in order to grow food and making a living for themselves. Yet, given that these precious trees are going to be cut, I would prefer that they be processed as lumber and used for constructive and artistic purposes. However, the populations grow faster than the industry required to process and export the wood. Instead of making use of the trees, they are simply piled up and burned. And that is a great shame.

In a Mexican town in Michoacán an outsider bought almost half a mountain of land. Then he sold all the wood in the land. There was not a single tree left. He made so much money that he started a very expensive avocado farm that gives him about 3.5 million dollars per year. And pays the people about 5 dollars per day.

@@LG141602 But how far does $5 a day go in Mexico?

meh, one of the swamps on the edge of the amazon is so large you could drop the state of florida into it without hitting a road. then you could drop another florida, in the same swamp, without hitting a road, or the first florida. and then you could do the same thing three more times. this is a very small part of the picture.

Brazil is big.

Great comment

@@IkeCoblentz yes, But rainforest is becoming small now.. 👏🏽👏🏽

spot on. When I visit Seattle (my favourite city) I feel a sense of loss when I think about about the area before it was logged and developed. Towering trees as big as building and waterways that simply no longer exist, ecosystems forever cut off and lost. The Amazon is still relatively intact so I remain optimistic

Seams its not the helpless cur that some bleeding heart types make it out to be eh.

too bad, because ford could have made money, and these people who never heard of having jobs would have developed into an amazing civilization and build up a car culture.

Yeah read Ford's The International Jew- The World's Foremost Problem

hey, finally someone taking this type of thinking and applying to the now and the future, as opposed to grandstanding on history. Utopian/totalitarian impulses of the rich aren't a new story and frankly, it's as bad now as it's ever been.

His research is what you would find on Google today.

It sounds like they might have been able to grow the trees as a polyculture, like a controlled forest with multiple species, instead of as a monoculture.

He should research how to treat natives first

@@Sorcerers_Apprentice not really, to do so would have made it almost worthless as a project, what he needed to do was more or less what he started doing in the end, build a test site, and begin to research pesticide, fertilizer, and treatments for the blights. further building the plantations smaller on the rivers for transportation he could isolate given plantations and develop treatments as new problems occured. unfortunately it would turn out that synthetic rubber would be easier to make than do all that.

The rubber production system that Ford tried and failed in the Amazon worked for the British and French in Malaysia, Ceylon, Indochina.

No unions in the amazon

Detroit’s a lot better now. You’re just not catching up to the news.

Bahahaha

@@theobuniel9643 If Detroit ever got to be 10% as important as it used to be, then we wouldn't need the news to tell us about it. We would just know.

The factors behind Detroit's decline are a pretty complicated (ex. White flight that left the city with too much infrastructure for its tax base to support, growth of foreign automobile producers, increased automation, etc.) and happened well after Ford's death.

Gonzalo, your theis should have covered the he corrupt gringo brazilians who took ford's money too. corruption in Brazil is old school.

This has been well known since the beginning

I lived right outside Detroit and never heard a word of this enterprise.

@marthale7 Ford was anti -Semitic and a pacifist. He met Hitler 2x as Ford had plants in Germany and the concern was that as the socialist regime they would seize Ford’s plants. Henry Ford and Ford Motor Co is interesting history-worth reading

Just because you’ve never heard about something doesn’t mean it’s not known.

@@kathycooper9577 you lived outside detroit before world war 2 when fordlandia was in operation.

Free, the large Dandelion provides rubber it may be more suitable than trees. It is used in the EU.

@@seanogallchoir3237 Ah makes sense similar milky sap.

@@raclark2730 interesting industrial soya was used to make Ford vehicle interior parts, the best use for it, after greena manure. In the modern world land based transport should be history, on our beautiful Ocean Planet.

@@seanogallchoir3237 Hemp is useful for such things also.

@Turtle Spirit 142 Energy is free, when we are? Enjoy our beautiful Ocean Planet.

And it cost them today’s equivalent of $400 million dollars.

@@SethMethCS yeah, empathy would've saved/ made them an ungodly amount of money. that and better research .

Lack of socialism and environmentalism is the biggest problem with the otherwise successful system of capitalism

@@erdelegy that is not capitalisms doing, that's just the good ol humans. its not like other systems would've saved us from this. human greed is the worst.

@@Tsuruchi_420 sure. but there failsafe put in place to not let capitalism or any other system do this, but our politicians are useless, corrupt people.

Walt never got to build his dream town, for some reason.

@@SethMethCS His death is the "some reason" why EPCOT was never built...

Robert Owens was a commie, too.

E com razão

@@niceshotmano, eu sei isso. O CEO do Ford corto a gordura da empresa mais a coisa triste e que Ford ajudo um monte de pessoas ter uma boa oportunidade de vivir um estilo de vida de clase media sim precisar fazer uma faculdade.

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He was a man of efficiency and eating expensive food was not efficient to him

@@pulsar9681 he was fueled by hate lol he didn't need food that tasted good, and as a cutthroat capitalist, he couldn't see the value in respecting other people's humanity/culture , especially food. The guy hated Jazz and thought it would lead to the downfall of American society! He had big gaps in his knowledge.

Also, a huge racist. He prob didn’t see or think of them as human

@@kateapple1 He actually doesn't. Part of the reason Fordlandia is built that way is because he considers the American way of life as "superior" and all else as barbaric...

the school likely just raised them up to work in the factory, hardly beneficial. It's a self serving enterprise

The food is what he provided, they could still go buy or obtain what they normally eat. My company provides nothing.

​@@sharksport01 kinda hard finding someone to buy things when you're in the middle of the amazon

even some people, or a big chunk in the tropical areas don't understand that either and just berate their respective countries for being this and that

Yep if you're white keep out of the jungle. We are not built for it.

do you mean some people in the global north? or I can state people in the global south are ignorant to what other people may or may not think. I assume you are not from the north or you are a self hating westerner...your comment is a poorly constructed thought imo

@@nowistime8070 You are clearly poorly educated. Did you even read your comment before posting it?

You can still travel the Amazon.

they didnt simply *clear* it. they put rubber trees there. wtf

I don't think you realize how big the Amazon is

@@phoenix5054 not as virgin as it was, water is absolute shit

While Ford Motor Company is really an exception in the american car industry, the man had many flaws, including giving a lot of money to an enemy nation, Third Reich Germany.

You imagine that people who were used to making their own livings in the Amazon were lazy sods? Like America now, the problem lies more in corporations wanting to micromanage their workers and ignore their humanity.

@@TheAureliac that's why they call it work, and why they call them workers. They are also more than welcome to be employers, instead of employees. Just like America. They have the choice, but refuse to go after it, because they think they're entitled to something that someone else has created.

@@justsomeguy-- No. They had the choice and decided to work at something else independently of Fordlandia. That does not mean they felt entitled to Fordlandia. It means they chose to work elsewhere. Their usual work was probably every bit as physically taxing as Ford's work, but they chose autonomy over autocracy. Good for them.

@@TheAureliac hmmmm......live in jungle with nothing, or get a job to afford a better lifestyle. Yep just like America. Still.

You literally can't work on natural rubber collection like it was just another 9-5 labor because it affects the plant properties and makes the job conditions pretty much impossible. Americans are really something else

That's not true. Synthetic rubber became superior and the Amazon is huge. Cattle farms are the real issue

Amazon is big, this is just a small piece of forest

More like rubber plantation but one cant fully known until they have tried first so cant fully blame them

Pioneers often fail. Our knowledge of rubber is based on his findings.

The rubber production system that Ford tried and failed in the Amazon worked for the British in Malaysia, Ceylon, for the French in Indochina.

The Amazon is different. A giant laboratory of immense size. Ford also needed agricultural experts which he didn't think of.

Those places didn't have predators that ate latex, or a blight that drifted downriver on the fog.@@Sokol10

😂

Thats because they don't have Taggers and scrappers in the amazon ;)

Ryan ford 😅

They brought them electricity,built them modern and brand new homes,running water,they built them a state of the art hospital in the middle of the jungle,built the whole town,schools,gave it to the local population and a job on top of that with good pay.They had jobs,making money,free housing,free education better then in all of south America combined,free healthcare,food and water,and the straw that broke the camels back was them (workers)not getting a waiter to serve them food instead they had to line up and get it them self.What more did you expect?

@@damirbato5686 😂 right hahaha. and they act like they couldn't just make their own type of food on their off time like they were before the town was built

Another Marxist indoctrinated Moron? Man, the World is Really in Trouble.

@@damirbato5686 Marxism has leeched Everywhere now it seem's Damir. Thank you for your Intelligent comment unlike some of the other brainwashed one's from the single digit I.Q. Crowd.

@@damirbato5686 schools...so they could learn the skills necessary for their factory work, hospitals, for the problems brought forth by the development of the town, electric primarily for the factory, but given to the workers of the company town as a carrot on a stick. If so many went back to the forest I think it's safe to say life there wasn't that great

Planting by the river was another mistake. The blight drifted downriver with the fog.

Henry Ford wasn't the only one who tried to profit from the Amazon and fail, another failure was Daniel Keith Ludwig "Jari Project" 1967 - 1982, for what a thermal power plant and the pulp mill itself were towed from Japan. Ludwig left the enterprise in 1982. In 2000, "Jari Project" (Projeto Jari) became controlled by "Grupo Orsa", so that Jari Celulose not only became economically viable, but also proved to be sustainable, receiving certification in 2004 by the Forest Stewardship Council. Nowadays it's the cattle ranchers who profit from Amazon, with more modest investments, they sell the wood to clandestine loggers, who clear the area for cattle ranching. USA and EU buy this wood.

The reason the amazon is so important, is because all the other forests worldwide have been cut down and destroyed by the so called first world civilization.

@@erdelegy Don't let them tell you it cannot be repaired because it can.

@@erdelegy That's bullshite there are methods to assist natural regeneration. Or you can listen to doomist propaganda by people who know very little about actual environmentalism, but I am not going to twist your arm.

I think the treatment of workers was a bigger problem than the workers themselves. Factory jobs are better suited to those with an authoritarian mindset. Those who are used to thinking for themselves will have more trouble with the rigidity necessary. Adding in the strict rules, requiring a bland and unhealthy diet and the racism that a Ford idyll would surely have exhibited, I think the problem lies primarily in management.

Please dont

It's deep in the Amazon. They don't need tourists.

@@realtalk6195 so they need to starve? You clearly havw no clue about brazil

@Bigby Wolf 👍🏾

Why exactly would any travelers go out of there way to see a sweat camp in the Amazon with a water tower when they could go to europe or the Caribbean or somewhere not infested with bugs on vacation.... all the way from the us are you kidding me no one would pay thousands to see the water tower lol

Do not save

I know right? I heard that introduction and thought, why the f would you want to save that shit?!

There's still people living there. They could just improve the houses being lived in and some key buildings tourists would want to look at, then tear down the abandoned and unimportant ones and let the rainforest reclaim that land

@@brokenglassshimmerlikestar3407 I think it'd take a lot of money to re-build the town. And a lot of investing too