Best remark 😂

TBH, I don't get it. Haven't spent a penny to keep up with c# changes and new features.

@@GrimOfDonuts I think what he meant is, with the extra money you can take more time off, which you will then use to learn c#

@@dgmullin1 Who uses unpaid time to learn changes, new features or new libraries? If company needs it, they are paying in full for it.

In a few years Kotlin will take over the world ;)

Funny AND true, even Epic used Unity for their Bridge XD

I've started using unity for all my projects, because it makes it so easy to deploy on all platforms.

@@cybertpax and epic is trash so that tells you something

Had me dying lmao

@@cybertpax Quixel uses Unity for Bridge, because it was made before Epic acquisition. I doubt Epic would use Unity if it was their choice.

I'm afraid if it's true.

@@mavyfaby Don't be. Its fine.. we are all parts of -Java-, eeh C# community, it's fine.

That's an award winning quote right there!

wait is that real?

@@sharkpyro93 Wouldn't be surprised in the least... just think about how much stuff you can see from users as a dev which the users don't think you can see... heck you can even go and decode all the passwords or see everyone's personal data... there are so many different logs and tables and code and blah blah blah blah that I am sure Microsoft has some kind of near-accidental way that they see their user's code and maybe in some rare cases even the data of the user's users too lol... oh wait... they literally make the operating system. lol so yeah, they probably get a SOLID amount of stuff that most devs don't think they can see. Nobody reads the terms of service anyways and you know how legal language can be... then add to that government sponsored espionage and surveilance... unless you write code on a literal paper notepad I'm sure someone somewhere somehow can see it.

So what kind of arguments do they get into? I assume they both despise the other's language.

Being C# and Python dev can confirm, I am constantly arguing with myself

I decided it'd be really funny if I learnt all 3 types of languages interpreted - python intermediate - dotnet C# compiled - C++ trust me when i say, I hate myself more than anyone

@@ishaqahmed._there is nothing wrong learning many languages, particularly if each new language introduces you to new ways to reason about code

C# dev here, would love to bash on a Python dev just for you, and your popcorn.

His injection dependency, you mean.

ironically before .NET Core the support for DI in C# was very poor

gotta love my protected readonly IRepository _Repository

@@idk-jb7lx Yep, and now it's just perfect.

Or SOLID, or Clean Architecture, sigh.

Ain't it the truth.

This too, is my 16th year. And this video had me dying... had to post it in the company slack :D

I even started to only type the first capital word on each method because I'm too lazy to type it all (like "snbnoe" for .ShouldNotBeNullOrEmpty()). Amazing what laziness can do to a man

Someone asks you why you just left "prop" in the code and committed the file with the error so the branch won't build ... "Couldn't help it, IntelliSense stopped working and I was out of coffee ..." 😆 We got something even better now: IntelliCode, the ML AI assistant that's sort of like Github Copilot's little brother, built right into Visual Studio. I'm loving it, it's the main reason I stick to VS 2022 and haven't been a JetBrains Rider snob like my colleagues. 😄

@@GameDevNerd Intellicode is available in VS Code as an extension too. I'm soo happy to be away from Visual Studio.

Word.

@@notsojharedtroll23 oh god at the very least use notepad

@@redpepper74 damn, i was saying "word" as: "damn, this guy knows the real deal"

@@notsojharedtroll23 :P

That was my favorite. I'll be telling friends that whenever I work.

@@sohn7767 N U L L A B L E ?

@@kaloan999 yea lmao

"had"

@@kaloan999 Null Able!

so they spoke in jump cuts

I legit don't know if this is a thing that happened haha

@@mat_name_whatever I know, right? :)

Hey, it's the legend himself! Love your channel man.

holy shit its Nick fucking Chapsas

The language has nothing to do with it. The runtime and sdk are cross platform (Windows, Linux, Mac, x86, x86_64, arm, arm64)

@@MaximilienNoal I know but getting your project to work with Mono on Linux is such a pain. Heck I have an easier time get C to work cross platform

@@BryceCorbittMono? Bro youre stuck in 2015 lol

Oh, so like 90% of users and developers

​@@joshkeitz2990lol most developers do not use windows unless they're still in college or children

You know how old that one is ?

It's because they can't C# (see sharp)

@@JulianSildenLanglo lmao xDddd

@@JulianSildenLanglo lmaoo

@@JulianSildenLanglo lmao

But i can't hear the word "Maven" without running screaming into a forest not to return for days. At least dotNet will work at some point during the project's existence, Java/maven projects will have " -skipSomething " flags to the very end.

@@Daijyobanai Just don't use Maven at all lmao, not Java's fault that it isn't a good build tool

@@theshermantanker7043 well gradle is better but it's also shit, what else is there?

@@yt-1337 Gradle in Android Studio is the buggiest thing I've ever used.

Can you explain?

@@stolensentiencethey added to c# 8 or 9 new switch expressions with pattern matching

@@TheRPGminer what’s that have to do with standing up?

@@stolensentience i dont understand either

idgi

I mean look where community “contribution” got the web

Really? That's pretty cool, what do you mainly focus on?

@@teaser6089 when I wrote the comment I was in Office365 as a dev, I recently moved to a manager role in Windows, assuming you meant to ask about product family.

@@f.r.e.e.4414 sooo… what’s up with you guys trying to pretend Windows 11 is an _upgrade_ to Windows 10?

@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated Windows 365 was probably rejected by some key corporate clients, so they "upgraded " to Windows 11 as a way to sell a subscription, I mean annual extended service/support license, to the clients that refuse to use buy new hardware/a new windows license within the last 5 years.

Just curious, how many cars do you have and what are they?

XR

@Edward G. Stone I believe it's a play on C++ way of printing to the console being "cout" pronouced as "c out" or the joke in this case "see out". Console.ReadLine() is C# way of reading data and the joke there is just using "Console" to "ReadLine"

@@unscriptedlogicgames the joke is twofold: 1 the traditional joke is "java devs wear glasses because they can't see sharp (c#)". 2 the twist on the joke is that getting input from stdin in java is extremely tedious, requiring either creating IIRC two objects and managing an exception or using the Scanner class. so instead of the expected punchline about "seeing sharp", you get an unexpected one about capturing stdin

Typescript is also a Microsoft language written by the guy who wrote C#. So if you're writing TS then you've already been assimilated and may as well learn C# too.

@@xTheZapper Typescipt by definition is a superset of JavaScript which is a popular language for both frontend and backend. C# on the other hand is about 2 decades old and mostly only used by Microsoft for its products and services

@@InputBlackBoxOutput I'm sure that's a joke comment and that you realize language age doesn't matter as long as it's maintained and gets new features that keep it attractive, and that if mostly only Microsoft was using C# we wouldn't be in this comment section as C# would be irrelevant

@@xparadoxical69 yeah no one's ever heard of Facebook's inside language the dozens of em, especially that weird hybrid of OCaml and JS but everyone knows c# especially in gamedev

@@InputBlackBoxOutput Wow so untrue its scary.

because its nothing else than that

@@greatbullet7372 Not necessarily. I'd miss a ton of C# features if I were to switch to Java today.

"Microsoft, Jav- I mean, C#" but tbh the syntax feels so close like damn

@@ishaqahmed._ reminds me of the "copy my homework" meme

It's called "Java done right"

Omg if I hear another word about Rust and how fucking annoying it is I'll explode

Between the two which one do you prefer and why

Rust is too DRY

It's coming, 1st of July.

​@@thedanphillips ill rewrite you in rust

Java is oracle C#, which is Microsoft Java thereby, Java is oracle Microsoft java

more like, everyone copied Lisp, which as had anonymous functions since 1958

what do you mean? you don't like that you can do string concatenation, screw up the types and because of type coersion have NaN in your final string?

I like to compare it to doing modern roadworks and all you've got is trowel. =P

with Rider, duh.

We could have a video about a jr c# dev who uses ? and ! everywhere so that VS shuts up about possible null values

"As our prophet - our Lord and saviour - Rob Pike once said:"

To see when the video on Go will be live you should write some arbitrary function and put the following date in it "Mon Jan 2 15:04:05 MST 2006 -0700"

The video would be too long for youtube ;)

"It took us 10 years to release generics because it's fun to manually rewrite basic generic functions like map and filter for each slice type". Love the language but often it's philosophy is too dogmatic about silliest things.

After thinking about it some more, i realized that they probably didnt allow a List to return a reference because adding or removing a new item from a list actually generates a new array and the reference would become invalid very quickly.

Best language that uses a garbage collector.

@@Iceman259 and Rust is the best language that doesn't. Actually literally saw this while learning Rust + Bevy for game development lol

Okay and how does this help out in regards to making something useful?

@@dq303 Its just interesting.

before I became a web dev or knew what CSS is, I was learning how to make game hacks. At that point I had a bit of experience using cheat engine, so I wanted to get into the programming part too. Well, I started out with C#. Eventually realized I can become a self taught web dev but yea, my first interaction with C# was using a memory and process management package to create a game hack with a UI. Initially I tried using C# for web dev, but quickly switched to html and CSS after remembering that I had a C# developer friend who switched to it and said it's a lot more fun.

The language of children and PhDs? That was his masterpiece

Yeah, haters gonna hate, C# is great, it's been feeding me for the last 20 years.

🤣

Haha.

We can now override struct default constructors, which is great.

@@realtimberstalker Oh yeah, the proposal for that (I believe I've only seen it suggested, I didn't know it was implemented now) is probably why I thought of this specifically as a response to that. But default constructor requires runtime changes too, right? Not good enough to use new lang version, so for many use cases like Unity, custom default constructors will be unavailable for a while 😔

@@sodiboo Actually runtime support exists for many years. It was C#'s constraint

@@guriysamarin6204 wait what? and you mean *default constructors,* like for the `default` value and not just parameterless constructors? because those are not the same thing exactly...

@@sodiboo No, I mean explicit parameterless constructor was always supported in IL. Unfortunately, UKposts doesn't allow links, but you can check LDM notes about this feature (the initial idea came about C# 6)

Unless you use the new global imports ;)

Hey you can relive that excitement of a single provider IDE today, just do some objectivec or swift.

Visual Studio has this shit and it pisses me off. Need to rebuild every time

Didn't they get rid of that prompt in the latest visual studio? I never understood why they friggin had this, almost no one wants this behaviour anyways.

@@studentt6064 you'll shut up and want the behavior that Ms tells you to want

Well it's okay. We probably have a module for that.

I like that python is basically open source matlab after importing 2-3 modules which is great Bc matlab sucks and it costs thousands of dollars for professional liscences

😁

This!

I've learnt you mustn't follow too closely behind new technologies released by MS. Always keep your distance, wait and see where it goes.

Microsoft Hibernate (aka Entity Framework) is not much better

We do have one other topic, how great C# is.

That's pretty much a necessity for being a C# dev, an inferiority complex that can only be satiated by shitting on Java

I might be a bit guilty of this. I know C# but I have to code in Java at work. At one point I was dealing with some particularly messy code as a result of Java not having async/await like C# does. I ranted about it for days.

@@AZaqZaqProduction in Java no one really uses language async features) Because you have dozens of async libs and Redis

Steady 9-5 work with corporate pay+benefits beats intermittent gigs at startups working 80hr weeks for a "maybe, someday" equity payoff. At least, that's been my experience and that of my colleagues...

@@mandisaw it definitely can be that way! Some startups are practically paying people in Monopoly money but other startups are hiring away from Big Tech exclusively offering a 2-4x salary multiple at every level & they understand that they may need to pay mostly cash to get the best talent…occasionally the founders may incorrectly believe that they can’t give out options without diluting their stock price, etc. …I was more so referencing FAANG’s tendency to use highly optimizable (usually prematurely diving into micro-optimizations while having glaring higher level design/architecture issues) or trendy languages. …of course there’s still some Java & .NET stuff on AWS/GCP so they can support it & most of these companies don’t really put language constraints on their devs when making new projects…at least it’s not usually an organizational mandate.