"You're Gandalf Willem Dafoe" - The Bonebridger's struggle to say words

Can you imagine if Kevin Feige had retired after Endgame? He would have gone down in history as the greatest producer of all time. Now we've watched him squander what it took a decade to build up.

Disney took two money-printing machines, Marvel and Star Wars, and broke them both. You can't do that accidentally. That's intentional.

I love Black Widow, but the last movie was an enormous insult to Scarlett's career, not to mention Disney's failure to compensate her financially.

I miss the days when going to see the new Marvel movie was an event. It was basically mandatory. Now, every time I hear about a new Marvel movie, I just roll my eyes because i know I’m going to be disappointed.

I'm amazed how they've consistently managed to make every replacement character to the original lineup unlikable, annoying and infuriating

I was never a Marvel fan, but I used to like Star Wars. Disney destroyed both and almost everything else they've touched for the past decade. Disney deserves to go bankrupt; they earned it.

Fun fact, there were no men in the shehulk writing room, some were added for the camera because even they knew, reality would look awful

I’ll forever be mad that we didn’t get a Black Widow movie after Age of Ultron centering her trying to find Banner, being unsuccessful, but uncovering some crime adventure in the process. Then a Black Widow 2 after Infinity War dealing with the Blip and helping Banner figure out how to be Professor Hulk.

You gotta realize, Endgame was the last project Stan Lee himself had a hand in creating. It was literally his magnum opus. His final work. The true culmination of all his favorite creations, in one place. Anything beyond that is milking by someone else, like someone painting a counterfeit painting of a masterpiece from the 1500s using digital software.

Loki was honestly a very interesting concept. They just screwed it up by weakening Loki, and switching him out as the main character for a girl version of himself. It should have been a one done where Loki gets to the end and is killed by Kang, but is able to get a message out to Thor just before he dies, letting everyone know that kang is coming

Endgame should have been it. It was a massive success. 10 years culminated. After that they should have hit pause. Taken about a year off. Refresh themselves and came back strong.

Yeah, no one in my family or friends group even talks about Marvel movies anymore. Doctor Strange 2 was the nail in the coffin. Marvel used to be the Super Bowl of film. Even casual and noncomic book fans were invested.

That's why endgame is end of everything, the end of stan lee comic books era, right now we're facing an elite leftist and weirdo who hates creating a good entertainment 😢

I just don't understand why Kevin and Kathleen still have jobs... Especially with the failures under Kathleen. Most producers get gone after 1 or 2 flops ,not still having fun after 5 years of failures.

Endgame was the finale, Guardians 3, Far From Home and No Way Home are just the epilogue

"We did it so that people could be free, this isn't freedom, this is fear." Totally fits in the present landscape.

One of the reasons everyone loved Black Widow was that she's a smart, likeable character, without the need to dumb down the men. In fact, she's one of only two non-powered Avengers, but held her own beside the rest. S**t, she faced down the Hulk on her own. Sure, she was obviously scared, but that's what courage is, isn't it? It takes more guts to do what Batman does than Superman, if you really think about it. Even against Thanos, she ran into battle alongside Thor, Black Panther and Captain America. Captain Marvel, armed only with her arrogance and ALL the power got her ass handed to her. I laughed! When they killed off Natasha, I literally cried. THAT'S the character that Marvel needed moving forward. Not the semi-trans, men in women's bodies that are Captain Marvel, She-Hulk and their ilk.

From a story-telling perspective, time travel introduces a very obvious problem: anyone else with time travel can go back in time to change whatever changes you made. Speculation on this is what led to Niven's Law of Time Travel: any universe where time travel is possible will eventually resolve into a version where time travel is never invented.

Spider man showing up in Civil War set off a bomb of excitement in the theater. That shit was epic.

I’m gonna say it: The devastating downfall Marvel has taken since Endgame almost proves that Thanos was right

I’m glad we live in a time where guardians of the galaxy had a full trilogy.

I’m glad you brought up that many people doubted Evans as Cap when he was first cast. I was definitely one of them, but it’s crazy how wrong we all were. That dude is as much Cap as RDJ is Iron Man.

That was an amazing way to summarize all that has happened with the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the problem is NOT introducing powerful new female characters, the problem is poorly writing the female characters and try to make them look better by destroying the male characters. Disney is failing at everything, literally everything, I never thought I'd write this, but I really hope they crash and burn, maybe that way something good can be born in its place.

If Kevin Feige would have retired after endgame , he would have been considered as one of the greatest producers ever. It was Rightly said in The Dark knight = you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villian. Feige has just made marvel a mess.

The biggest mistake they made was lacking any real finality. You can get away with making a never-ending series in comics, not cinema. It literally cannot work.. Every story has to come to an end eventually. That's why Phase 4 felt so meaningless & directionless. Because it was. They're going solely off of greed at this point.

The Infinity Saga is the greatest run of movies ever and we will never see its like again

These aren't mistakes, they are moral failures. The words of Bonhoeffer still hold, "Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than evil". They might just be movies, but they highlight something much more troubling.

I said right before Avengers Endgame that after that film, the MCU will fall apart and will just turn into another cash cow. Everyone said I was crazy. Look where we are now. Aside from stuff like No Way Home and Guardians 3, everything else has been a shitstorm.

What exactly happened is Kevin Feige's luck ran out and he stopped getting talented people to work for him. He had no one else's hardwork to take credit for and his real incompetentance was exposed. Moreover, every new hire he made was either talentless or woke activist.

This has to go deeper than feige. Blaming him alone is just asking for all of this to happen again

How can Marvel Studios spend $350 millions on a movie but can't get a good story line??? Just hire some fans and they will make a 10/10 movie

If you cut out everything in between i think Guardians 3 was the real end of the MCU that we all liked/loved.

I totally agree with you. MCU was a phenomenon in the previous decade till Endgame(though Endgame showed signs of whats about to come). After that, feige did a solid job of demolishing 10 years of work with a single TNT which is phase 4....atop him is an even bigger evil called disney and Bob Ogre.....

At first, I took fat Thor as a nod to traditional Norse mythology since the actual god is pretty big in the original stories. He also had aesthetics seen in those times (long beard and hairstyle). I didn’t really get riled up about that as a result and didn’t really see anything to be mad about since he was going to better himself afterwards. Today, I still think it’s a bit of a stretch to complain about since he recognized that he couldn’t keep living like that and went with the Guardians to return to being someone he feels is worthy. ... It’s only after I saw that they completely made a joke of him in later movies that I really got mad. Bettering oneself doesn’t mean having a complete downgrade to prop up “Mary Sue Unit 275”. The road to being able to wield Mjolnir once again would have been tough, but Jane definitely wasn’t worthy in the slightest. Especially with the smug bitch personality “strong female characters” always have these days. Those characters make me flat out ashamed to be a woman and they discourage me from sharing my strengths because I don’t want to be seen as similar to those characters in any way. Seriously, it’s like the anthem for these Mary Sues is: “Anything you can do, I can do better! I can do anything better than you!”

Age of Ultron has turned into my favorite Avengers movie.

When pepper pots showed up in a iron man suit to fight in the final battle of end game, I was like WTF is this?!?!? Pepper pots is not a warrior! It was all down hill from there!

I will never forgive what they did to hulk

The reality is that they peaked with Endgame. But they got too high off its success. Secret wars should have been a hit on target. But it was a major miss

What gets me is the smugness as they destroy everything. "Ha we ruined the things you love!" It's nauseating.

As a wise man once said, "The best parts about the MCU, is there is no good, or evil, depends on what side you're standing on". 😂😂🤣🤣🤣...😢

What stings the most is that, if pulled off correctly, the Multiverse Saga had potential to surpass the Infinity Saga. With Dr Strange, Loki, and Wanda as the New Big 3. But fcking WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE WOKE happened, good fucking gods. Still hurts my heart.

We should also thank the original Superman the movie, which showed us serious superhero movies were possible. In fact, it was Superman director Richard Donners wife (Lauren Shuler Donner) who produced the first Xmen movies where Kevin Feige started out before creating the MCU!

they didn't just drop the ball, they shot a 3-pointer in the wrong basket. disney had us all saying "what are you guys doing? you're messing up badly!"

Ike Permutter really should be given the credit for the success of the Infinty Saga. Once he let Feige get total control "the message" became front and center and story took a back seat.

As a woman I am astounded by the fact that OTHER WOMEN cannot write women at all, especially when spaces like r/menwritingwomen exists. They can't be smart, strong, intelligent, and competent on their own. They have to have special powers that make them better and they always have to be the smartest in the room and simultaneously babysit everyone else because they're so stupid that they're barely functional. I haven't seen a single Marvel movie except No Way Home since Endgame, I never got a Disney+ account, and I never plan to. I don't want to reward shoddy writing that just proves to actual sexists that women are incapable of writing good characters and stories.

I agree so much with this video. As a woman who was 15 years old when the first Iron Man movie came out and loved every second of it, I'm so sad that this is the current state of the MCU. I'll never forgive them for what they did to Black Widow, her solo movie should have come out in 2014 at the latest, and she deserved a good story, not the turd we got. I have more things I'm unhappy about the MCU, but that's the one I needed to get out of my chest the most, and I know this is what the silent majority wanted for BW.

The Critical Drinker cameo got me 😂😂

You know how Kang squats on his desk in the show Loki? Yeah, that's basically how the Marvel writing room works now.

In a way, adapting Infinity Gauntlet doomed the future of Marvel movies because it doesn't really get more epic than that. At the same time, it gave them so much success it was worth it because the comic book fad was never going to last forever. What we're seeing now is the gambler that struck it rich, but refused to walk away. The final investors in the ponzi scheme are stuck with the bill.

2:15 *_"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man"_* - Friedrich Nietzsche

My GOD from Scarlett Johanson to that rooster Phoebe Waller Bridge

Endgame's time travel seemed fine because they (the heroes) explicitly made sure they didn't change what had happened. Long term, it would be bad, but for that movie, I think it's fine.

I didn't think they could really disrespect endgame that hard. Then again, they also disrespected Fury by letting a cat take his eye (retroactively insulting Winter Soldier movie) so I can't say its a one off.

1) There needed to be more interconnectivity throughout Phase 2: Hulk and Steve co-starring in Iron Man 3 (preferrably facing the actual Mandarin or a powered stand-in rather than corporate dude #3; Tony at least face-timing Steve in Winter Soldier, then sending a handful Iron Legion drones, also Hawkeye's role not landing on the cutting room floor; a proper set-up for Ultron running through Iron Man 3 (as a peace-keeping AI supporting Jarvis that's corrupted towards the end) then being in cahoots with Hydra in Winter Soldier, finally smart enough to send a back-up of himself to space to possibly feature in either GotG 2 or 3, 2) a Black Widow trilogy: the first one co-starring Clint and dealing with Budapest, the second delivering a superior version of the movie we got, the threequel taking place inbetween IW and EG with Nat and Steve putting together The New Avengers (Rocket, Nebula, Captain Marvel, Okoye, War Machine) and carrying out missions we actually get to witness + at least one Hawkeye outing (spotlighting his upbringing in the circus, possibly going up against someone like The Hood) and the heavily rumored War Machine/Iron Patriot solo, 3) mining the five year gap with releases for Agents of Shield (reintroducing Coulson and making the show MCU canon), Inhumans, Warlock, Nova, Daredevil, New Asgard/The Professor (Thor/Hulk double feature), Ronin, the aforementioned BW3, and something along the lines of Thanos - Servant of Death (shedding some light on his past, the festering lunacy in his mind, the disciples he gathered around himself and cosmic entities trying to take him to task for The Snap), 4) the MCU steering clear of time travel and rather having Tony, Thor, Wong, Mordo and Scott stick their heads together in Endgame to gain entry into the Soulstone and thereby Soulworld: some of the dusted would be so blissful that they'd refuse to return, others are so corrupted that they oppose and outright fight their friends, maybe throw a sliver of Thanos' soul in there as well so the Avengers aren't forced to fight his past version = two-dimensional cookie-cutter villain. 5) Take a 2-3 year break after Endgame, then recast and fill another ten years with either street level heroes going up against Kingpin and saving NYC, or X-Men vs. Avengers with The FF intervening or or or

Meh. Shuri wasnt a bad choice to beBlack Panther, she just wasn't the best choice. Not to mention the way they went about it.

I'm in the slim minority here but I thought Endgame was insufferably long and the time travel was stupid. The rot of the MCU was already present before Endgame.

It's not just the writers that destroyed the MCU, even though they played a big part in it's destruction. The actors really did the MCU no favors attacking fans and attacking regular people for how they think and how they feel. Knowing what we know now about these actors, Disney could bring back the old writers, bring back the original cast, bring back the good CGI artists, bring Chadwick Boseman back from the dead, retcon all of the stupid decisions they made. They can do all of this, and I guarantee you that Marvel wouldn't see the same success. And the reason why is because a lot of the original beloved actors shat all over half of America by letting the mask slip, and letting their politics air out for everyone to see. People like Chris Evans, Samuel Jackson, Mark Ruffalo and Don Cheadle really couldn't stop piling on the attacks on people while acting as the beloved characters made by Stan Lee. And you're right. Because I've moved on from from caring about Marvel. I have no strong feelings regarding the failure of Marvel. I'm done.

Tbh DC has probably fumbled the bag the most with this opportunity, outside of Superman’s animated series that’s pretty good- this has been the first time since 2008 that marvel doesn’t have full grasp of the comic book fans with their live action films. Anime/Manga has been taking over since they maintained their core values and culture, dedicated to good story telling without virtual signaling

The problem with marvel and it's movies is that they're forgetting marvel is based on fantasy. The characters looking built, cut with phenomenal bodies with all different kinds of powers and abilities, it's fantasy. That's why we liked them. Now they're trying to hard to make everything as if it's something you can run to in real life.

I think the whole MCU should be rebooted like the DCU but fire all the activists so the movies can be good

I think endgame set up time travel decently, having the rule that you can't change the past because that would create a paradox made sense, and they had it so to change stuff you had to be really careful as to not mess things up, but within the same movie they had past Thanos, Nebula and Gomorrah come to the present with no consequences. If they had had to send Thanos and his army back to his timeline while also wiping his memory, I think that would have resolved the problem, at least in a better way. As is with the time police and full on multiverse, it's just a mess.

Yeah I still think about the silence in the theater when infinity war was ending its hard too describe that feeling . But man was it a compelling movie . And then the eruption of chatter after the credits roll as everyone starts talking about what happened and what would happen . Ahhhh peak.

I am SO nostalgic for 2014-2019. I saw Thor 1 and Avengers 2012 in theaters but I really wasn’t into it until later. But that whole thing was so fucking good. I remember being on a cruise ship and watching Winter Soldier for the first time at night, in the middle of the fucking ocean on a giant projector pool side. I remember being excited with this stuff and seeing every movie with my friends. Great times.

I did like WandaVision. The potential connections (X-Men Quicksilver; Magneto as her father) were awesome. I don't recall Wanda in comics becoming a villain

Multiverse of madness should’ve been like everything everywhere all at once

Well Said. Endgame was the End and there is a nice little Epilogue Phase that consists only of Spider Man: Far from Home, No Way Home, Guardians Christmas Special, Guardians Vol.3 and hopefully Deadpool 3 (IF It's good, but I have faith in Ryan Reynolds of having creative Control similar to James Gunn did with Guardians)

Im hoping for a huge reveal, everything we have seen in the past couple years after Endgame has been nothing but a "What If"

It's depressing, because there really is so much they could still do even without the Avengers people like but instead they're focusing on the Z-Listers and insulting those characters that are still on the table. After what they did in Multiverse of Madness I don't even want them touching Fantastic Four and X-Men, they need to stay away from them.

I was 8 when the first Iron Man came out, I loved it! the visuals were awesome and it really made me want to pursue a career in IT/programming which I now do. I was completely devastated when Tony died and I still can't watch the movie without crying. however, seeing all of the things go downhill at the studio I once loved so much is maybe even more painful...

It was the End Game for me, for sure. By the end of it, they killed off Iron Man and Captain America and turned Thor into a clown. These 3 (with the F.F. and X-Men) were always the bedrock heroes at Marvel (their comics are still being made and sold) and by the End, they, and the Black Widow were gone, along with my interest in movies with female replacement heroes and star treatment of characters from the C list. This was followed by the bad decision to kill off the T'challa character (and ALL of his merchandising) because the ACTOR playing him passed away (RIP Mr. Bosemen). Lots of "Legacy" characters "killed off" for cheap thrills and shock value.

13:31 Yeah, it was cool... And all it cost us was the Hulk's entire character, and then ultimately the Hulk himself. What a great trade-off.

I liked Iron man 3 after i went back and gave it a chance. Same with Thor 2. I think they were more cerebral and less action. Still good in their own right.

The line from Blacktan America gives me goosebumps, *"We need to stop calling them terrorists."* Chills.

A week ago, CanWeGetSomeToast (the second account of MyTimeToShineHello) leaked the synopses of The Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars. The summary for TKD was short: the Avengers go up against Kang and lose. Considering the fact that Kang has been taken down by Rule 63 Loki and a stampede of ants, the line-up must suck. Now that I look at Captain Falcon, Shang-Chi and She-Hulk, it all makes sense. But the meat of the leak was SW. Apparently, the TVA rebel against Kang and rally a team of multiversal Avengers, led by Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man and Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. At best, it's a really easy theory disguised as a leak, but it's just like old times. Marvel has realised their cinematic juggernaut has stumbled and fell. They got complacent after Endgame and thought they could make any old character a household name. I can actually see the leak of Secret Wars being real. They're falling back on nostalgic fanservice and banking on Maguire meeting up with Jackman to get bums in seats.

Avengers did not introduce us to The Hulk. Marvel did that a few years prior with Edward Norton.

Civil war was the last marvel movie i watched, tom holland's peter parker was more character destruction than i could afford...

That was a really thorough recap! If you don’t mind my saying, the background music is a little bit distracting. Maybe that’s just me though. It’s such a shame how marvel has deteriorated but do you think it was inevitable? Could marvel have continued on just making movies without inserting updates for modern audiences and without streaming shows and been successful? There is a natural winding down process of any series but they certainly could’ve avoided the descent into terrible writing. Or maybe the pressure to send “the message“ was too much to be resisted. Thank you for the video! 🙏😄🎯🍿🖖

Finally!! someone gave Blade credit for paving the way for Marvel movies.

Strange 2 TMOM was the breaking point that made me pause the MCU and become selective moving forward

*As someone who paid sometimes more than once to see 19 of the first 23 MCU movies, 20 if you count Love & Thunder (I don't as I walked out 30 minutes in & got my money back) but even then with Thor 4 I saw the writing on the wall, it was the weekend & with most MCU movies of the past the theatre is usually PACKED but there were legit 4 people to see Love & Thunder, I saw Iron Man 2 right skipping Captain Marysue obviously, but up until Endgame in the theatre & each time the theatre was full to capacity, these days MCU has struggled to break even & the reason is simple, they are catering to a SMALL but obnoxiously loud group of people who DEMAND "representation" for every Gender, Race & preference in the bedroom, That is pathetic & lecturing the audience (Particularly if they're a straight white male) is like burning money, because I would sooner do that than see ANYTHING from this woke cancerous studio ever again. We made MCU popular by going to see it & now we are watching MCU die by not PAYING to see it, be it the big screen or their crappy streaming service.😁😂🤣*

I liked falcon and winter soldier tbh. It was a great depiction of what happens if the wrong person gets the shield and helps falcon feel like he earns the shield.

Does anyone think the death of Stan Lee was partially a reason everything fell apart? He’s not there to keep everything at least somewhat on track and telling a coherent story.

To summ it up in one go: Marvel died the second Stan Lee did. Rightfully so since this company not only had no problem treating Stan like shit even after his death, but also is perfectly fine hiring absolutely disgusting people who can either not behave or have done unforgivable things (Ezra Miller and even more so, Zoe Quinn). There is nothing and no-one Marvel wouldn´t desecrate for a quick buck. They lost Stan, and thus, their soul. They sold it to the Disney.

Absolutely agree, after endgame I stopped watching the garbage Disney is producing. I also thought endgame was boring.

Marvel did absolutly end at endgame with No way home being a nice epilogue. I hev not watched anything else except Multiverse of Badness, my brother wanted to see it, and that just confirmed that it did indeed end with endgame. That being said I have really enjoyed countless hours of youtube creators tearing the new stuff to shreds. Those videos are great because they save me the trouble of watching the movies and I don't even really have to pay close attention, I can just have this kind of stuff on in the background while cooking or playing with the dog. Plus on occasion I can make comments like this one making me feel smart and heling the creator rank because of "engagement". I think we have entered the post Hollywood period in history and frankly I welcome it with open arms.

Personally i think X-Men Days of Future Past was the Endgame of great superhero movies. You cant really top it

That simple jack part.. 🤣🤣😂😂

Great presentation and rationale as always, keep it up Bonebridger ❤️

I lost all interest in Marvel when they introduced time travel/multiverses.

I think the real issue with the kinds of messages being put into these movies nowadays is that they are focused on the non-issues that society is so obsessed with, rather than actually important issues. Take the Winter Soldier film as a good example of the kinds of political themes they used to tackle: The government is likely corrupt and the people we could once put our trust in are now our enemies. Cap doesn't just fight against Hyrda, he fights against SHIELD, because SHIELD was invaded by Hydra. This created a very interesting story of espionage and focused on the real world issue of corruption. Now let's take a look at the kinds of messages they peddle now, I'll use She Hulk as an example: Women have no flaws, are always perfect exactly how they are, and men are bad and need to improve themselves. I was taken aback by just how hypocritical the show was, for constantly dragging on the male characters while the female characters did the same things, and sometimes even worse things, and were praised for it. She Hulk had no character arc in her show, she learns nothing, and does not improve as a person at all. Combine this with her arrogance, self-consciousness, selfishness, and general lack of heroic qualities, and you have a protagonist that is incredibly difficult to like. TLDR: There's nothing wrong with putting politics in superhero stories, they've been doing it since the very beginning. It's just that the politcal landscape of today's world is idotic, so when these modern politics are put into stories it brings them down.

Kevin Feige really getting complacent since 2019…

Excellent analysis but I see parallels with Spiderman 2 and Thor Ragnarok in that everyone I talked to after seeing Spiderman 2 was bothered by the fact that DocOc didn't stop all of Spiderman's punches yet stayed in the fight (the web slinger's blows will down a Rhino) but mostly that Peter suffers an emotional breakdown and loses his powers (huh? Seriously, huh?). In Thor Ragnarok Everyone was bothered by how easily Dr. Strange dealt with him, how easily Hel dealt with him, how a silly little electric shocker could down the God of Thunder and how the electric shocker survived the ultimate clash with the hulk. In both cases they made the hero weak to give them a challenge. In my opinion they both did better then they should have based on expectations from how good the previous movies were. (and that Thor Ragnarok was "Must See" leading to Avengers: Infinity War) Sorry, I know you love Spiderman 2 but, losing your powers because you have girl trouble is right up there with Padme' losing the will to live.

Thank you for making this video it explains everything I dislike about the MCU, and ur absolutely right some fans may never comeback, They’ve definitely lost me :(

So, I just so happened to stumble across your channel, only to discover this video was a part 4. Where can I find the other parts?

IT'S WILLEM. William Dafoe was his father. But agreed -he is the man. Also love Alfred Molina as Doc 'Ock'

Captain Marvel was out before Infinity War. It made a lot of money because people that there would be some easter eggs in the film. No easter eggs, just sorrow!

*Infinity War Endgame sucked. Cracks were very noticeable in Endgame. Felt like a spit in the face.

Marvel died the day they decided that using time travel to defeat 2014 Thanos was a good way to solve the conflict in the Infinite Saga that was set since 2008.

Now this is the kind of video that I like from this channel, not the live podcasts. The live podcast videos are slow and boring.