Chapter 1 s3-5 were the golden days in my opinion. You built but you didn't have to get super cracked. That was the after-school casual games that I loved when I used to play. Imagine skipping a season or 2 because you got super busy doing other things. You come back and ur like "this isn't fun".

I personally would like to try a no edit mode. Still allowing builds but removing edits would be a good middle ground for people who still like to build, but can’t keep up with the skilled editors

I'm a casual player. I've tried to close the skil building gap since I first started in chapter 2 season 2. I understand the problem with new players but the building mechanic is what makes the game special. I think a better algorithm and maybe game modes like easy build, normal or turbo , would help out new players. Taking walls and the low/high ping is another issue.

I really like the idea of making builds rechargeable. For example you start with 20 charges, which means you can put 20 building peaces however you want, but every building peace will recharge in 2 seconds. That means if you waste all your buildings you won’t be able to spam it anymore. However i feel like buildings themselves should be stronger. This change will allow to do a short push pr build a fort or something like that, basically change the playstyle idk

Although I'm a casual player, I still play build mode. Building and 3rd person view is what makes fortnite unique compared to other battle royals. I love the fact that I can build a cover around myself when I'm attacked rather than jumping around trying not to get lazered.

I'm in the middle. I'm not great at building and have no time to put into edit courses to become crazy at it. But I also hate zero build because I LIKE being able to throw up a ramp or wall for a bit of protection. Who knows what will happen! But thanks for these videos - I always appreciate your insight.

Honestly, the big things driving me away is the inundation of so much junk and the massive skill gap. I just wish it was like how it used to be.

The easiest way to get rid of this problem is for Epic to limit how much mats you can carry. The less mats, the less you use. And if any sweats are in your game, they will probably run out of mats right in the middle of a build fight.

This game will always be the best game for nostalgia. Like the moments back then were just different

This is a great take, especially about builds. I also feel like build mode needs to be revamped for the sake of it being revived as a whole playlist. Too many players are discouraged by the fact that when they hop into build mode, all they'll be fighting are a bunch of sweats, whereas opposed to no-build it's a more casual experience. Change can be good and I do believe it needs to happen to make the entirety of Fortnite fun for everyone, with every game mode.

I will never stop playing build mode regardless of what they do. It's just better for me, sure, I'm not great at it, but it keeps me in the game longer, which in turn makes it more fun. Every time I'm ik Zero build I get taken out instantly, and it's not fun. Or someone shoots across the map and I try to build, getting killed in the process with no direction in which to try and aim. I will take sweats building crazy structures over bush campers that you can't see any day.

I agree that build mode is intimidating, especially Arena for new players (like myself). But to me, build mode is still the preferred choice. Improving a little bit every day makes Fortnite fun for me at the end of the day. Good suggestions though, Sypher

I think some changes would be cool but I gotta disagree that build mode will go anywhere. If anything the BR itself will die out a lot and it will be more creative stuff

This is such a good video and it tackles a serious problem in the Fortnite community. Glad someone with big following finally spoke up about it.

I’ve been playing since chapter 1 szn 0 and all i can say is i still love fortnite, players getting better forced me to get better aswell so i can definitely stand up for my self/win the game, but i do miss the old days were we all could just have fun

You can try to find a mid point between zero build and building mode.. For instance, building without editing (or limited edit) and turbo build. In that way it will feels more like in the beginning. More fun and casual. And building will be used as an strategic tool, not like a slide cancel overpowered advantage (just like COD) if you mastered.

I love how intense these types of videos are like the end of fortnite or this props to you

This game will always have a special place in my heart, hope you’re doing great

Never liked build mode, the day no build came I was hooked to the game. EpicGames please bring RANKED matches to NoBuild!

I think a mode with just 100 materials max should be considered. You keep the originally intended mechanics of building a fort in you get caught out in the open or to get that slight advantage in a fight but you totally remove all the crazy build fights. Removing the experience of building isn't quite nice if you played from the early days, but also being 'outbuilt' by someone isn't. So maybe a low material-capped mode could be considered

I honestly think chapter 2 season 2 was the best for both comp and casual. Yes, the mythic weapons were kinda OP but weren't "game breaking" and it was a ton of fun when you actually got it, now its just boring to get any mythics and all the weapons are a little TOO balanced (excluding the evochrome AR lol)

I hope Build mode will stay, because it was kinda the thing, that made Fortnite back then so much more different than other battle royales.

I play Fortnite since season 2. I love all the modes. I still build and build is still the thing that seperates fortnite from other games. Its very satisfying to edit and edit-kill or box-kill somebody. That satisfaction is less in zero build. I dont want the community to only play zero builds. Its a good topic of discussion. Thanks for the video :)

I agree with sypherpk but I also think that they should do some serious skill base match making, like using the score system that it showily when you die like you hit shot accuracy ,how many kills you get per game, or how much damage you usually take per game,ect

Well said! I’m a returning player from a few years back and your right. I don’t even touch build mode because it’s simple, I just can’t compete. And I can’t spend the time to get better at building

This was a thoughtful, well-made video. I like the idea of having builds start with more HP and that number decreasing with quantity of builds. And I agree this is a tough problem to solve. As a casual on Switch, I play No Build and get around 5-15 elims a match with the occasional Vic Roy. I’ve only ever loaded into Build mode by accident, where I won twice by sheer luck and defensive playing. I tried the original Fortnite when it first came out and exactly as you say, the learning curve was too steep for me with building. No Builds made me come back to the game and now I play every few days. I also don’t want to see Build mode disappear.

Read this comment in 2027 😂

The only way they could save build mode is if they add a 5 second delay on editing or just remove editing completely and then limit the amount of materials you can hold like the ground game LTM where you get just enough materials to be able to defend yourself when needed

I feel like people don’t appreciate this game because I used to be a sweat but I fell off completely but I always come back and regain my muscle memory in creative or a competitive map so once I’m ready, I’m prepared to play again.❤

I remember when I first started playing Fortnite, building was literally the coolest thing I had ever see in Fortnite back in 2018 and some of the reasons why I started playing. It was hard to build at first too lmao, I would die a lot but those were fun times and I hope we get to relive those moments again.

I used to play main battle royale mode back when i started in Chapter 1 Season 2 because my friends said that it was fun to run around the map, get kills and win sometimes but when Chapter 2 started, it wasn't so fun anymore because of how people start building skyscrapers when they hear wind and i still can't build a two floor building in a second so i play team rumble and creative. It's really sad

This is why I love your channel so much. You pot a lot of thinking and reasoning into your subjects. I really like the comparision with GunZ, that game was amazing at the time, it had the potential to become so much more. But I remember how I went from getting a few wins daily, to eventually not be able to hit great players once. Similar to what happens with people with insane edits. I never thought how Zero builds could revitalize the game so much, and at the same time put the main mechanic in risk. I really hope Epic are working in a comearound, which won´t be easy and probably will make a lot of players to quit. One recommendation that I really liked at the time, is when we knew that Fortnite would use the Chaos engine. At the time, a lot of us thought that building was gonna change dramatically, having individual blocks get destroyed and allowing parts of the structures to break separately allowing bullets/rockets to go through. This would force players out of their boxes and discourage the camping. This is only my take on the subject, but I think it would be a great save for building, even if that means learning a different mechanic from scratch.

Sypherpk I love the way your did this video and how you gave strategies pin how to fix build mode. I just miss those Good nostalgic days of Fortnite and I hope something does get fixed

Thanks for the post Im new to Fortnite and loving both modes. Build is like a chess match I'm getting stomped but that said, If i go to a chess tournament the same happens. The process is what is fun to me. and if you put time in you do improve. I hope it stays. The concept is just great... thanks keep up the videos. Fantastic and fun.....

for the casual build modes, there should be a cooldown on editing builds. Once you edit a wall you cannot edit any structures again until the cooldown is done. Another thing would probably be to reduce the building speed. That’s just my thoughts tho.

I think lowering the amount of mats and also adding alternatives would make building fun

i think they should make building like sprinting, you can only build so fast before you get worn out. this could make it more balanced and make people think about where to build and what to do

I always have high hopes for fortnite and i hope the current situation gets better and i really wish the building mechanics becomes more beginner friendly and the skill gap gets less wide and i hope epic will find a way to make the competitive players and casual players both happy

I'm a new player (started a few months ago) and you're spot on. I went straight to zero build and stayed there.

I don’t play this game anymore but I still enjoy watching Fortnite content from Nick Eh 30 and You Sypher! You two display such joy and passion into this game and I appreciate that from you guys! May God Bless you guys!!!! 🙏🏼💯❤️

I like the idea of the strategies and building ramps and 90s are. Those skills while I haven't mastered either. Don't seem to hard. Wall wall ramp jump turn etc. Or floor wall ramp when taking height while pushing. But the edit cycling is the real issue. Edits are to make builds that can be advantous in certain scenarios. Like doors, windows and shaped walls.

love the content keep it up and you made some really good pionts

I used to hop on Fortnite around the chapter 1 Era… because of how people play with builds, I lost ineterest… I couldn’t enjoy it. Then around the end of that same chapter going to chapter 2, I came back with a friend who could build a bit and he thought me enough I started to learn… but then I started taking things too seriously and it was just stressing me out that I cared so much for the mechanic… I like building, but I wish it was simpler and just to create ocasional cover or build tiny forts… so I hoped off again for quite a while… came back and stayed because of Zero build.. can’t complain about the skill gap anymore and I can finally enjoy the matches even if I lose… its fun again for casual players such as myself… but I also don’t want to see build mode go

There should be a low buld mode where you can only hold 30-50 of all mats at once so there no buld fights but you can still take cover when you’re in the middle of the open

Thanks for the videos Sypher! You deserve everything!

i love this style of video and editing scheme with syph. onii studios upgraded clearly.

I've been playing since the end of Ch 1 Season 5 and everything is different which is to be expected. BUT the reason building is ruined in my opinion is partly because of those players who are toxic about their ability when they come across someone who obviously cannot build like them. I know building had an important place in the heart of the game, but there is such a things as to much of a good thing. There needs to be a balance between the 2 play styles and being able to build skyscrapers in a second, using presets or speed building is a problem. I would like to see something like the more mats carried slows the build process down kind of like jump fatigue. Right now it just simply the speed of building that keeps me away from that mode altogether. I would also LOVE to see arena and competitive played the same as WE ALL play. Box fits create a HUGE disconnect and divide between us. It just comes across as a group of try hards and show offs (NOT ALL BUILDERS) rather than people who play the game they love. Maybe back to basics, so to speak, would be a good thing in this case.

This video says a lot about how Sypher thinks in regard to business opportunities and tactics. He's already proved he is fantastic at building a community and a network of income streams, aside from that he has some serious marketing skills. Keep it up man 👍🏽

Fortnite build mode is everything I ever wanted a game to be ever since I started back in Ch1 S2. A game where the better player is 90% set to win. Because to be honest no matter how mad I get if a sweaty player kills me, in the end of the day I still get more mad if I see a bad player kill someone out of luck. It is fair and should remain like this. I only ever played on weekends and holidays, but I still managed to keep up

Good way of putting it, I miss season 1-5 the vibes and the community and the state of the game was so great.

I can relate honestly. I just kept on dying in Chapter 3 Season 1 because building was close to inpossible for me but since zero build came out I only once so often play builds heck most of the time I build is when I'm in creative and since I'm on a console it's very hard to edit

Great content keep it up we appreciate all your hard work

Love u man keep the good work up bro

Idea: Make a build mode except the amount of materials are extremely low and difficult to farm up. Say 80 mats per material type while mats are very scarce with a reduced farming rate. This would greatly encourage being resourceful and would still allow for skillfull building like peice-control and box fighting but would also pervent stuff like quadruple editing into a clip or 90'ing into the skybox. To prevent spam firing the buildings would have alot more health ( Like 2x or more the current health). I think it would definitely be difficult for pro players to get used to but it would be great for the game imo.

I’m actually excited for fortnite’s future and it sets my mind with ease.

The thing about zero build is that it is practically just another battle royale, but goofier. I like that mode, but it does take the "Fort" out of Fortnite. The building mechanic is amazing, but difficult for casual players to fully grasp. I myself can't do all the fancy highground retakes and editing techqniques. I love this game. It's unique. It can be an incredibly fun game. Epic Game needs to make sure they make a game that lasts.

Honestly, I love building it helps me do better and i hope that it won't go away.

i got a fitmc vibe from this video and it honestly was fun to watch even though i don't play fortnite anymore make more of these

i think sypher is one of the best fortnite content creators their has ever been. Such a lot of time invested into making these great complex video for us to watch, enjoy and think about!!

This video is so well made, its perfect. Fortnite will always have a place in my heart love you all in the fortnite community, from a top 10 player in season 7 and top 8 in season 5.

I dont think that with reducing the healt of the players as they are cracking would be a great idea cause that forces them to stop doing what they spent time to get good at.I think that the best senario would be if we had less materials,like 250 of each.They would still crack but that would last for much

Awesome content bro🤧 I can just say I've been playing the game is 2020 and a lot of the times, most of the players in my br matchmaking are pretty decent

there could be matchmaking based on building skills (avg builds placed and edits in a game, and winrate against ppl with high building skills)

True finally someone talks about ping wall replacement that is actuall unfair thanks for speaking facts sypher

My idea would be to have the building system tied to the stamina bar, so every time you build it takes x amount of your stamina. With this spamming builds would be impossible and when someone is in a box with no stamina you can take their wall. Idk how good this system would be but you know its just an idea.

I agree 💯 bring the changes that maybe turn this into a bit more of a revamp to earning the skills again! Always knowing there’s more and I can control that is probably the reason I loved Fortnite the most.

As someone that actually bought Fortnite pre br mode and played from start of the prime and end of the prime of br. What made me stop was when they added the matchmaking and kept avoiding the skill gap like taking the double pump and nerfing shotguns, forcing you to constantly sweat with the matchmaking all the bs over the top kiddy shit ect. Cod has had a frustrating skill based match making issue for awhile too, that mixture of good and bad players in lobby’s is what makes games fun and you can have nights where you chill and play and then go on your try hard runs when you want.

My thought on builds is to simply not allow edits until the build has completely formed. This way they're no longer going to act as one-way walls. It will really slow down the aggression and make things a little more strategic, and a little less technical. Not so much that skill won't prevail much of the time, but it levels things out a little.

the wall replace mechanic I agree with but that's hard to implement because of ping the builds losing health over time would ruin the game and make spamming ars or smgs a huge problem

i think there has to be an editing cooldown or charges or smth like you spawn with 50 edits and everytime you edit you lose one and they recharge every 1-2 seconds

started playing in og season 1 til season 6 i think? i was just bored by the game and i was kind of doing other things, 2 years ago i tried to come back, but i was so overwhelmed by building, it was just broken for me. tried fortnite again couple months ago and discovered no build mode, which is so great, it awaken the passion i had for this game back in 2017. i see no reason to play build mode now.

We love you sypher keep up the good work

If build mode gets removed, then there’ll be nothing unique about Fortnite

as a season 2 player, i have these old videos on my channel of my "crazy clips" and in those videos when i was looking at them again i was thinking how fun and the laughs with my friends and everything was. now i hop on and my friends i grew up playing with from middle school now play other games due to how non fun it is to them. i enjoy fortnite. But, looking back at those clips ill never have the same reactions as i did in the past due to just improving the cool plays back than are the usual now. but i agree 100% i find myself switching between the both build n no build and honestly no builds looking like the funner way for me to play the game.

AMAZING VIDEO PK. Highest Quality as always. I've been playing Fortnite since it came out and I only play Zero Builds because build mode is not fun., its not exciting and too predictable. A change in build mode needs to happen in the next year or its bad news for it.

I really like your build hp suggestion as a great start to fixing these issues. As far as I'm concerned FortNite *is* building. It's one of the main things that keeps me playing it as someone who has never liked shooters before this one. I don't touch Zero Build because it's just not the game I like, and I get stomped way harder in that mode. I really hope that Epic figures out this issue.

Love the video Sypher, keep up the great content!!!!

i remember in chapter 1 s1-4 were easy bc not alot of ppl are cracked in building but now im just quitting and joining back idk what to do, they are really cracked

This is why I've always spent most of my time in Team Rumble, there's sweaties, there's building, but there are so many players on each team that overly defensive turtling and prolonged 1v1 build battles are nearly impossible.

Sypher just letting you know you are one of the best streamer ever so inspirational 🎉

As an extremely passive, casual, player since save the world, I really stopped enjoying fortnite when I couldn't take a single shot at a someone without an 8th grader shitting out an entire apartment complex in 3 seconds. No Builds is fun but I think fortnite needs to keep building, just maybe make a limit

DAMMM why did all the good times have to go away, i remember towards the ending of 2017 when I played my first fortnite game. It was perfect everything down to the music all the way to the game itself, it brings back good memories. I got so addicted to it, there was so much hype about it; Mann i miss those days 🥺😥😓😭.

Outstanding analysis and great data to support your conclusion.

Good watch. Curious to see what's next from the Epic team after this theory starts to become a reality.

Totally agree with sypher even though i love buildimg n grinded so much since 2017

Chapter 1 season 1-5 was the best time of this game.. I had so much fun playing it with friends. We used to play 6-7 hours straight at night till morning. It was a blast, this game has a lot of memories and the vibe it had back then is unmatched

Excellent video! I agree that there needs to be a change but not a removal of build mode.

You can win in Build mode even if you're not good at building. Again, it's all about game sense and aiming. It's actually easier to kill people in Build Mode due to less shield protection. I shift between the two Build/Zero Build, but I have been playing Zero Build far more often.

💯% with u bro, i barely play builds anyomre too much stress n no fun

I played this game for years as a casual player, I enjoyed learning to build and be somewhat good enough to do 90s and basic edits. Also playing on 200ping, it was fun, but building mode is so bad now, everyone else is just way to good. I wish they could give us an over 30 or or 35 mode

Keep up the grind my guy

i think one of the change has to be that we can edit other players builds too it might turn out good who knows

I have an idea they could do what they did to double pump and add a timer to consecutive edits or building uses stamina just a thought tho

I’d kill to experience fortnite seasons 1-9 again man

For me I felt No Build Mode rewarded my aim a lot better than Build Mode ever did. I was never good at building but I was a pretty good shot. The moment I cracked a shield in Build Mode I'd always have to deal with someone who could speed build in full panic mode and then have them jump over me and shoot me. Started to really kill the fun for me and made me feel like I got punished because I couldn't out build.

build mode is still better imo, half the pois / guns in the game fit build mode better then zero build

My opinion is if we want to keep it like it it is they need two separate teams for comp and casual and we need more surveys for weapons

this guys made this vid 5 times alr or smth like that and i still watch every one all the way to the end

This makes a lot of sense I joined fortnite a couple seasons ago and I've hardly touched build mode. Like you said it's just really intimidating and time-consuming to get good enough to be able to compete with the builders who have been building for years

i 100% agree that if epic game does not do anything with the build mode it will die down and be forgotten. great video as always :)