It was a matter of ‘conscience’: Authors speak out about their protest against PEN America

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America is facing a free speech reckoning. One group that has been swept up in the discourse is one of the foremost organizations for the freedom to read and write, PEN America. Some of its members, including authors and staffers, are calling on PEN America to take a stronger stance on the war in Gaza. Some say PEN America has not gone far enough in defending writers in Gaza. James Frankie Thomas, author of ‘Idlewild’, and Ghassan Zeineddine, author of ‘Dearborn’ pulled their work from an upcoming PEN America literary award ceremony. They say it was a matter of conscience.
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@user-vg3cc5co7u
@user-vg3cc5co7u 14 днів тому
Do hope Velshi will not be censored by the MSNBC corporation as they recently did and fired another excellent commentator.
@girlfriday1299
@girlfriday1299 13 днів тому
Thank you, MSNBC, for having these people on. Kudos to Velshi for his good work. The world can't unsee what is happening!
@tgal924
@tgal924 14 днів тому
I like keeping up with these kind of important stories. We need to pay attention as difficult as it is. 💙
@robertbirch5676
@robertbirch5676 13 днів тому
Congratulations on your lobotomy
@robertbirch5676
@robertbirch5676 13 днів тому
How meaningless these 3 are
@sharonmassey2923
@sharonmassey2923 12 днів тому
I'm stunned, Ali. I actually heard the word "genocide". I chewed out CNN earlier for one appalling segment, and called it out as well as MSNBC at the same time for spinelessly refusing to use the word. Next big question that must be answered: Why has there been a fascist response to the protesting students, to the protesting of genocide, as though Trump Was Still In Office?
@kooale
@kooale 14 днів тому
James Frankie Thomas, you nailed it friend, CONGRATS! Great job Ali & Ghassan.
@user-vg3cc5co7u
@user-vg3cc5co7u 14 днів тому
Velshi is to be commended for the program.
@adamishaw
@adamishaw 14 днів тому
Brave and principled authors 🙏
@scottgilmore7319
@scottgilmore7319 14 днів тому
As James points out, facts are facts and no amount of prevaricating will alter them. Tolerance of others’ views is fine as long as those views do not support - or sidestep - atrocities. At a certain point, “tolerance” becomes abuse.
@deeman1643
@deeman1643 14 днів тому
When I first saw this piece I was not a Velshi fan. I am now! I think you did a fair and objective job covering a controversial topic. Kudos!
@everydayispoetry
@everydayispoetry 11 днів тому
I can think of any number of thoughtful, moral, conscientious people who disagree with James Frankie Thomas. Her absolute certainty in the correctness of her own position (that it is the logical equivalent of saying the sky is blue and that anyone who disagrees with her is not a serious person) makes me think that she would benefit from spending a little more time outside her political bubble. I, for one, very much appreciated PEN America's mature and well-considered stance on this.
@hoangvu220
@hoangvu220 14 днів тому
James Frankie Thomas. I salute you! More people should be brave enough make their decisions like you: whether or not your conscience will will be OK with them, and whether you'll be able to look at yourself in the mirror. 90% of our Republican politicians will fail this acid test, I'm sure. Those are 37 years well worth living!
@shannon_886
@shannon_886 14 днів тому
Agree with james
@user-vy5fc3ho2y
@user-vy5fc3ho2y 14 днів тому
Genocide is the attempted eradication of a race of people. The UN has said Israel is committing human rights violations but not genocide. As a benchmark during our war we turned a blind eye to Russia’s atrocities in Chechnya. But that was not genocide.
@unfingbelievable1
@unfingbelievable1 13 днів тому
“Race” has no reality
@user-vy5fc3ho2y
@user-vy5fc3ho2y 13 днів тому
@@unfingbelievable1 Then a "nation" of people, considering the Palestinians as a nation who have had their homeland seized as a booty of war. The choice of word does not matter. There is a difference between trying to eradicate a people versus callous disregard for human life. The latter is actually more insidious an issue for Americans because it is much more common in the populous.
@brettmatthews8061
@brettmatthews8061 4 дні тому
According to the UN Convention genocide is legally "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: Killing members of the group; Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group." Killing one person because of their ethnicity is legally genocide. There are far better descriptions of what Israel is doing here: mass murder, atrocity, collective torture, wholesale slaughter, etc. Most Americans associate 'genocide' with the 'common sense' meaning you mention, not with the legal meaning the protestors are using. And it is clear that the Israeli government - however brutal and unjustified - is not trying to eradicate every Palestinian. The term may technically be correct, but politically it is unhelpful and works against the goals of peace and a two-state outcome.
@DissaffectedLiberal
@DissaffectedLiberal 14 днів тому
Velshi has never showcased a book that is actually banned.
@christopherhughes8402
@christopherhughes8402 14 днів тому
Want to take a bet on how fast they would get banned if placed in a red state library?
@DissaffectedLiberal
@DissaffectedLiberal 14 днів тому
@@christopherhughes8402 Yes. I can get any book he has ever mentioned on this show.
@nigeltufnel9525
@nigeltufnel9525 14 днів тому
Sad troll trash.
@zarahcastro3601
@zarahcastro3601 13 днів тому
To keep silent or to say we don't know (without trying to educate oneself) about the brutal genocide Israel is doing to the Palestinians is to be complicit. Violence will never bring true peace.
@wander570
@wander570 13 днів тому
Velshi they will come for you like they came for Mehdi. I don’t wanna see ya off the air but keep speaking the truth!
@unfingbelievable1
@unfingbelievable1 13 днів тому
Looking at those bits of bodies in the rubble, what kind of expertise do you need to know that that’s wrong?
@jennlavender5225
@jennlavender5225 14 днів тому
Your nightmares will stop you from getting that sleep.
@samudramanthan8645
@samudramanthan8645 14 днів тому
Hail Byzantium!
@roejogan7770
@roejogan7770 14 днів тому
Freedom of speech isnt freedom from consequences. If your employer doesn’t like something you said then they can fire you for it and it’s not a first amendment violation because private businesses aren’t the government.
@Alpharizzchad
@Alpharizzchad 14 днів тому
​@ULTIMATUMDEVILTime to throw away your hopes and dreams for who. Hamas doesn't care about there own people What due you think about you. They don't. Keep it up you will be wearing a burkra soon. MI the land of EBT cards. And forced marriage at 8 year old wife
@tommyudo3195
@tommyudo3195 14 днів тому
PEN has members, not employees. You can't fire a dues paying member of an organization.
@roejogan7770
@roejogan7770 14 днів тому
@@tommyudo3195 Can they revoke memberships?
@tommyudo3195
@tommyudo3195 14 днів тому
@@roejogan7770 So an organization dedicated to the free exchange of ideas cancels members whose ideas it doesn't agree with. Cancel culture at its finest.
@brownbanana18
@brownbanana18 13 днів тому
It’s not a genocide. As horrible and horrific it is, and Israel is in the wrong, it’s not a genocide. We have seen genocides and they are even worse.
@Muttinchopsforeverandalways
@Muttinchopsforeverandalways 14 днів тому
All rise order in the court. The courtroom bailiff looked at the judge said quietly stinks in here the judge replied they're definitely a odor in the court. The sketch artist nodded in Trump's Direction
@DissaffectedLiberal
@DissaffectedLiberal 14 днів тому
Get a job and you can get an apt that has a shower.
@DarthSailorMoo
@DarthSailorMoo 14 днів тому
@@DissaffectedLiberal Why does your cult leader not use showers? They're quite relaxing and help makes you smell nice.
@rude1527
@rude1527 14 днів тому
7 days the same person reposted the very same thing. No originality for each post.
@rude1527
@rude1527 14 днів тому
👍 Be original and have a Great epic day. Mad respect
@adamishaw
@adamishaw 14 днів тому
Amazing segment. PEN 🖊️ American wants to avoid upsetting Zionists. And people of conscience fight back for recognition of genocide and injustice.
@Alpharizzchad
@Alpharizzchad 14 днів тому
Move to Gaza Toll and make me a ham sandwich 🤡
@adamishaw
@adamishaw 13 днів тому
@@Alpharizzchad My family just escaped Gaza after being made homeless by an Israeli-American bomb.
@ewka6441
@ewka6441 14 днів тому
This is a very complicated issue, but I'm sure there are quite different reasons behind 92NY cancelation and Frankfurt Book Fair as German government has a very strickt policy to cancel all pro-Palestinian sentiments; for example, the scandal with Berlinale's documentary directed by a Palestinian and an Israeli
@Alpharizzchad
@Alpharizzchad 14 днів тому
Germany and the EU want Muslims out of their countries. They know what happened and who did it Hamas sold the people out for the money for the mullahs in Iran deal with it.
@lam_pions
@lam_pions 13 днів тому
They did not cancel the Frankfurter Buchmesse
@sircasm6578
@sircasm6578 14 днів тому
13th quarter approval rating lowest in history 😅
@Muttinchopsforeverandalways
@Muttinchopsforeverandalways 14 днів тому
When Trump was in office?
@rude1527
@rude1527 14 днів тому
​@@Muttinchopsforeverandalwaysthe sniffer & chief
@DissaffectedLiberal
@DissaffectedLiberal 14 днів тому
@@Muttinchopsforeverandalways Trump - 46.8 Biden - 38.7
@robertbirch5676
@robertbirch5676 14 днів тому
Rant and chant trans rights are human rights
@robertbirch5676
@robertbirch5676 14 днів тому
What a freak
@winstonsmith6607
@winstonsmith6607 14 днів тому
MSDNC got rid of Mehdi Hasan but kept Velshi and his Pea Dow Book Review segments. Just stick to Trump, MSDNC. Don't act like you give af aboutGaza.
@DarthSailorMoo
@DarthSailorMoo 14 днів тому
How do your fairy tale fantasies get rid of people? Do they wave their magic wands around?
@nigeltufnel9525
@nigeltufnel9525 14 днів тому
Remember, DO NOT respond to the incel Winston Smith's stupid comments. He considers it harassment and stalking.
@roejogan7770
@roejogan7770 14 днів тому
@@nigeltufnel9525You just responded to him.
@nigeltufnel9525
@nigeltufnel9525 14 днів тому
​@roejogan7770 No, it was just a warning to Winston's millions of fans out there that if you give him the attention he so desperately craves, he will cry harassment and stalking.
@DarthSailorMoo
@DarthSailorMoo 14 днів тому
@@nigeltufnel9525 Careful, he will get angry and just copy and paste your comments like a child in a high chair.
@MSNBCult
@MSNBCult 14 днів тому
MSNBCensorship🤡💙🥴 😆
@lynnrunningdeer7364
@lynnrunningdeer7364 14 днів тому
Who's being sensored🤨?
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