Best points of the master Waldner. Second set, 2:10 J-O. loses 10-5 vs. Boll, 3:17 master makes the end point of the set win it 13-11, demonstrating why is the best of all time.
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@ezghthrt77334 роки тому
Waldner's appearance at the 2004 Athens Olympics is one of the classic moments in table tennis history and a prime example of his strengths. He was 38 years old, he had won everything that can be won, he was past his prime but the fire was still burning inside (he said afterwards that he was confident to win nothing but the gold medal and he also wanted to prove that the Chinese were not unbeatable). He almost did it. Before the games, Waldner was seen as a second-rate player though and nobody believed that he'd be able to put a dent into it. He hadn't beaten Ma Lin for six years and Boll for three years. Ma and Boll must've seen him as an ageing man - they used conservative tactics, hesitated at clutch moments and they all paid dearly for their mistakes as Waldner exerted pressure. In the semi-final, Waldner tried to lure Ryu into the same mistakes but Ryu was young and tough-minded. I wished that Waldner would've won at least a bronze medal. He is able to make the best of his skills and tactics whenever it counts. Young players should learn Waldner's spirit.
@maxmustermann38762 роки тому
If you look at Bolls successes in the last couple of years that's even more amazing. As Boll was 38 he made it to world's rank 1 again. And he clearly is much much fitter than Waldner, who was very slow. And he actually did beat the top chines players at this old age.
@albertosebastian98562 роки тому
Instablaster
@dickn.ormous10642 роки тому
@@maxmustermann3876 the paper no1.What about his career in his 20s?He won his sole bronze medal at the WTTC at the age of 30 beating Chen Qi who was a lefty doubles specialist. Just because he has 15 years of medical advancements to treat his never ending injuries and Germany's endless financial resources it doesn't mean he is more successful than Waldner. He could never win a Slam with his soft looping style.
@maxmustermann38762 роки тому
@@dickn.ormous1064 "Never ending injuries" "Germany's endless financial resources" Wtf are you talking about?! You clearly don't know shit.
@dickn.ormous10642 роки тому
@@maxmustermann3876 Ever heard of the Bundesliga?It's the German League.The whole TT business in Europe centers around Germany.Foreign players have to play overseas to make ends meet which hurts the level of national leagues hence the mess of European TT and the German dominance.Germany couldn't even win the European Championship before 2007. Belarus and Denmark won it during Boll's reign...
@emcc16418 років тому
MA Lin at his prime; Boll close to his prime ( but froze in this match); Waldner giving a swansong display of genius against both. Younger players now watch and question what the fuss was about - surely Waldner doesn't seem that good? The answer is deception. Other top players often did not know what Waldner was doing, with spin speed or direction, until it was too late; thus their errors on even simple-looking shots (to the new generation of viewers) from the master. One of the rare few from any sport that made a game look effortlessly beautiful. Thanks for the memories.
@Ahldor8 років тому
+Elana McClements Precisely, this was top act deception. Almost every strike he made he went with a slightly different angle and spin than usual, and that really messes up his opponents game flow. But Waldner could also win the longer rallys, he most often did actually. So he was indeed a fully fledged table tennis player.
@thecatmeows16256 років тому
Elana McClements And the thing is Waldner did know what the other players did. His classic no-movement blocks were possible because he anticipated where the ball would go and got there first, and of course had the touch to return it perfectly.
@CTJM5 років тому
This was 2004, not 2000. He lost to Ryu and Wang Liqin later on in this 2004 Olympics.
@elseberthelsen1715 років тому
Elana McClements öo
@ronwilson4645 років тому
Elankkk
@99Age6 років тому
I just admire them... both of them! They are TT Legends and they made this sport being an art ... All TT Legends are inspiring us and they are giving us joy and passion to play ...
@orangeman7455 років тому
9:28 The Swedish king. The other guy is Carl XVI Gustaf.
@Ossissindwestpolen4 роки тому
Als his German Wife
@youngguitar91334 роки тому
I know, I’m a swede
@KimJakab4 роки тому
Orange Man: Ha ha, well pointed out :) (Looks like the others didn't understand your joke?)
@rosamelfierro60934 роки тому
J.O. Waldner is the table tennis G.O.A.T.
@rosamelfierro60934 роки тому
Timo Boll is great too.
@PrinceArt7713 років тому
at 6:35 timo just couldn't hide his depression anymore...waldner just have this extremely tricky spins on his serves and returns.... 1. great server 2. smart backhands 3. superb ball placements 4. fast reflexes (for his age) 5. extreme accuracy with loops and drives 6. great blocking and defense 7. A true gentleman of the sport 8. Simply the Best package 9. All Time Best 10....MY IDOL......hehe...peace yah all guys!
@dobadobado199412 років тому
JO doesn´t only smash, like the chinese guys, he also kid his opponents with small balls and chops. He´s definitly the best in table tennis history.
@AdamBobrow11 років тому
Their table tennis history is pretty rich... Stellan Bengtsson and of course Jorgen Persson to name a few. Together, Waldner and Persson were a HUGE factor in beating the Chinese as the top team in the world. As far as current players... well, they have a few strong players.. but not in the world top 50 and Persson... is their 2nd highest ranked player STILL!!! So the near future of Sweden... well... won't be quite as strong as it was in the 80's and 90's. 8>)
@andreaseriksson8803Рік тому
Don't forget Appelgren. He's the reason J-O got to the top.
@AdamBobrowРік тому
@@andreaseriksson8803 Yes. Appelgren as well. 8>)
@boastfultoast8 місяців тому
Thanks for the videos and content. Your energy and attitude has gotten me back into the game after a 10 yr break and is one of the better decisions I’ve made. Glad you are a part of the community. If you’re ever near Boise, Idaho I hope to play a game with you sometime
@l4mbo-games1747 місяців тому
hehe, this comment didnt age well ;) falck runner up wttc 2019 and truls 2021. doubles gold 2021. depends though what you mean with "near future" :D
@Zakarias896 місяців тому
Sweden is back!
@andymcneil70856 місяців тому
The man is a legend and one of my heroes.
@spaceinvader3845 років тому
Apart from superb basic skills, Waldner's tactics and setup's are the best, pure talent. It took the Chinese a lot of time to dissect and analyze his game before they could get even or close. Hope we could have a rare genius like this from time to time.
@nicklasandersson56065 років тому
They never got him,it was aging who finally stopped Waldner,not the chinese.
@madrilenho10 років тому
6:59, Waldner's evil smile
@granit888 років тому
He's like "atleast you tried" xD
@madrilenho7 років тому
Erik Hedbäck Absolutely!
@zim-chan6 років тому
"Nice try bro"
@screenosaurus6 років тому
He also shakes it off realising he shouldn't be seen on camera with that smile after the point LOL
@grigoriykarabaza6493 роки тому
Это просто шедеврально, Вальднер ты легенда!
@EnzitoTDMРік тому
Este video me lo mostró mi primer profesor de tenis de mesa allá por el 2012 hoy 10 años después lo sigo mirando y disfrutando de la misma manera
@sanoj19698 місяців тому
Legend 🇸🇪
@jayarellano67885 днів тому
The Bruce Lee of Table Tennis. No opponent can unsheath his true power in facing this man. No unnecessary movements. Just pure control and direct attacks. 🔥💪 If prime J.O. will play with today's generation, he will surely placed at the top.
@dangvang111 років тому
Waldner is the BEST OF THE BEST !!!! Timo is really confused .. He seems to be a newbie in this Match ... WOW
@Pewpshmear14 років тому
at first, i thought "wow, timo boll used to suck." but then i realized that every single point shown was waldner's . and then i realized that this was more of a tribute to waldner than a game highlights.
@madrilenho11 років тому
THANK YOU, MASTER WALDNER!
@GenghisKhanPolitics8 років тому
Waldner - The best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be
@nik7bkh9657 років тому
Golden Boy after boll ofcourse
@thecatmeows16256 років тому
Nik 420 Haha. Nice joke.
@prod.championriceboi36965 років тому
in your dreams, maybe.
@MrRazorblade9995 років тому
@@prod.championriceboi3696 Att his prime Waldner would probably beat Ma Long.
@noahjackson41855 років тому
@@MrRazorblade999 now you're delusional. Waldner may be the Mozart but ma long is just pure dictation over the table. No one can beat ma long when he's in form
@AdamBobrow11 років тому
My pleasure! Happy to help! 8>D
@niklastorshagen63658 місяців тому
J-O Waldner, The Mozart and The Ever Green Tree
@xssamaxila12 років тому
J-O. Waldner is Roger Federer in tennis!
@kuchikibyakuya76974 роки тому
Ma long can destroy him essily
@bohrora22934 роки тому
@@kuchikibyakuya7697 Ma is just a well trained robot. All mechanics no substance. Glad I stopped playing before tt got destroyed.
@lepoldbuttersstotch4 роки тому
@@bohrora2293 what does you stopping playing TT have to do with anything? Not like you were ever going to challenge your Sunday league's best, let alone China's best
@bohrora22934 роки тому
@@lepoldbuttersstotch The Chinese turned TT into something else. To use an analogy, no football fan ever looked at Futsal and was in awe. Good luck to them perfecting their human algos. China have many "best" and zero "greates"
@user-ry8kr8vg7k4 роки тому
Trent Boult Fuck China and their China virus. China is a pig cage.
@zang19835 років тому
5:30 good luck returning that ball lol
@taoismk83214 роки тому
Haha heavy side spin on it 😂
@dickn.ormous10643 роки тому
@Stabil Timo Boll and smash doesn't mix.
@gilekopi72962 роки тому
Trick. Shot
@TyRafferty12 років тому
@ultramuffin99 read this: Uploaded by Reno070 on Jul 30, 2009 Best points of the master Waldner. Second set, 2:10 J-O. loses 10-5 vs. Boll, 3:17 master makes the end point of the set win it 13-11, demonstrating why is the best of all time. Category: Sports Tags: Waldner License: Standard UKposts License
@flagella13375 років тому
8:01, "Yesssssssssssss! Wait what, I deserve more credit."
@melvintorres92548 років тому
walder looks like jame hetfield of metallica
@qomarqomarudin73075 років тому
two outstanding players .. great respect to both of them though different generation separates them at their prime
@spaceinvader3845 років тому
Waldner's got the reach, effective block and very capable to counter serves to his favour. Timo is clearly off form while Waldner's exceptional in this match. But could see Timo improved a lot over the last 10 years, playing against top Chinese players.
@dickn.ormous10644 місяці тому
The Chinese don't play Boll like Waldner did so his experience is irrelevant.Go watch him play against Moregard,he has the exact same problems as he did with Waldner 20 years ago. His slow loops get punch blocked to wide angles and he can't keep on the serve-recieve.One would say it's his age but again he got kicked by On Sang Eun in his prime with the exact same tactics.The Chinese just aren't that good against lefties compared to their general level.
@rasheedelakhlaqsiz47535 років тому
Waldner had a lot of control and directed his shot and returns at will I think today's game is just a little faster, not sure if Waldner would have been so dominant at today's speeds.
@edwardshowden55115 років тому
Thats totally true. He had great control and good tactics. Timo style is easy to read. My favourite match from 04 was timo-schlager 4:3 🙉
@alessandrofini13944 місяці тому
I think how many good players with 40mm ball would be able to play with 38 and if they were so good. I'm 56 I started with 38 I know what I'm saying. Waldner is the best players of all time
@tanche284 роки тому
Both great players
@shabahatali76198 років тому
waldner was shear talent.his backhand was awesome.only person to threaten chinese
@n0mi897 років тому
*threaten and dominate
@realman4447 років тому
You did not hear the hungarian Klampar?
@andreialexandruparfeni71297 років тому
realman Klampar was not a threat. Klampar-0 WTTC medals Waldner-6 WTTC medals In the modern era (since 1965), Hungarians only have 1 gold in men's singles tournaments, while Sweden has 4. Hungary-1 WTTC teams gold medal (1979) and 1 WTTC teams silver medal (1981) Sweden-5 WTTC teams gold medals (1973, 1989, 1991, 1993, 2000), 4 WTTC teams silver medals (1983, 1985, 1987, 1995), 4 WTTC teams bronze medals (1967, 1975, 1977, 2001).
@tomspice736 років тому
shabahat ali You are aware that Boll and Samsonov have been in the top 10 for 16 and 22 years, right? Boll is number 3 currently.
@nicklasandersson56065 років тому
How many wttc and olympic gold has Boll and Samsonov taken to stop the chinese?
@RedArrow20075 років тому
J=O Waldner, one of the greatest table tennis players of all time!
@DrMcKay665 років тому
THE greatest TT player of all times if i may say.
@ashaazimroz9775Рік тому
@@DrMcKay66 Ma Long and Ma Lin are easily better than him. Waldner is awesome but China still dominates.
@DrMcKay66Рік тому
@@ashaazimroz9775 Depends on how to see it. Compared to how many active players in each country JO was still better at that time but as player to player they were maby slightly better then him still.
@masterspin77964 роки тому
Waldner was really showing some power with those backhand shots...
@ianmurphy5975Рік тому
will always be the GOAT in my eyes
@robertod8932 роки тому
In 2003 I was a dealer in a casino. One night shift the Chinese men’s team were playing Baccarat. I remember asking them about Waldner’s chances in the upcoming Olympics and their reply: “too old”
@andrewmcneil21102 роки тому
What a fabulous player.
@user-rc6nw9qq9d2 роки тому
100年に1人の天才というのは決して過大評価ではない。
@GenghisKhanPolitics9 років тому
I'm so glad I got to shake hands and take a picture with Waldner when he was in his prime
@Vallavanat6 років тому
Golden Boy lol you post the same thing everywhere
@brunoklintman35934 роки тому
Proud to be a Swede 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
@kennykarlsson920Рік тому
What a legend.
@azertyqwerty45285 років тому
A 39 ans faire les J.O, chapeau l'artiste!
@PrinceArt7714 років тому
ohh yeahh! Waldner is simply the Best...the best all-around TT player.....his backhands are the most accurate, consistent, and the trickiest i have ever seen...well, not as powerful as those of Kreanga's but definitely amongst the greatest.....his serves are spinny, quite hard to counter....and his loops....and ball placements.....define his GREATNESS......The Greatest Table Tennis of all Times......Waldner........peace yah all guys!
@jmlainez3 роки тому
Man, Waldner must have been frustrating to play with! Not being able to anticipate what's coming next. You can see Timo getting frustrated from not being able to hit back simple service returns.
@TableTennisTT14 років тому
Great quality, Yeah JO Sweden for life :)
@washnery5 років тому
Jan Ove Waldner simply the best!
@HandsomeCookiemaker12 років тому
love how the play ABBA in the ending of the game LOL
@zodinlianiatyi32814 роки тому
Woah!! 7years ago im from the future in 2019 lol please reply me if youre still alive lol..!!!!
@Jonixx954 роки тому
@@zodinlianiatyi3281 he's probably dead... XD I come from 2020 it's pandemic in all world please help me... Waldner is a beast, as a kid I won a lot of table tennis tournaments, I had potencial and love the game so much, there's some type of meditation state when you really into it
@IchsanDarmawan4 роки тому
Wow Amazing skill
@fotolumy29734 роки тому
Alguien sabe como se llama el Sueco que dirige a Waldner en ese Partido y durante todos los Juegos Olimpicos?
@Nootson08 the song is from ABBA...and they are from sweden...
@kaidong270610 років тому
In this game, Timo played his B game or C game. Waldner played his A game or A+ game.
@jobro70449 років тому
You must be kidding. If both of them were at their best, waldner would crush boll
@andreialexandruparfeni71297 років тому
You're right, but Waldner was already 40. Waldner played his A game considering his age. Of course he could have played much better in his prime.
@ZalzZe5 років тому
Waldner is 16 years older than timo 😂 40 at this game
@robinkjellberg67965 років тому
A washed Waldner is still dominating Timo Boll in this video. What are you talking about? 😂
@dickn.ormous10642 роки тому
Boll the one trick pony.What's his A game?Hitting even slower loops?
@wowmogge12 років тому
4:57 " Because i'm female"
@Youda000084 роки тому
Why only Valdner points?? This so ruins the video.
@rosamelfierro60934 роки тому
Because J.O. Waldner is the G.O.A.T. Timo Boll is also great. There are some videos of Timo if you prefer to watch.
@LePingouin924 роки тому
Yeah like the other day I was watching Nadal best clay wins and guess what no track of Federer slams wins!! These people, the nerve
@dickn.ormous10643 роки тому
Boll scored like 5 winners and 3 unreturned serves in the whole match.He rarely goes for his shots, mostly tries to draw errors with his slow loops.Rather unremarkable style compared to Waldi.
@MisterLiBRiUMz11 років тому
Timo is an excellent player, however, Waldner recognized his weaknesses and played them to his advantage. Notice most the Waldner's points are on Timo's backhand!
@Stormy1774 роки тому
Often close to his body on the backhand, too - Boll's weakness had definitely been identified, and Waldner exploited it to the fullest.
@MRDOA663 роки тому
The great maestro Jan Ove Waldner of Table Tennis
@MyStefan7211 років тому
wenn man sich den Zusammenschnitt anschaut muss man zu dem Schluss kommen, das Waldi alle Sätze zu 0 gewonnen hätte. Warum fehlen Ballwechselszenen mit den Punkten für Timo?
@Laurents7513 років тому
juste le meilleur joueur de tout les temps
@luisgutierrez-ze1zi4 роки тому
Waldner es el estilista y demoledor del tenis de mesa..cada golpe y bloqueo era del terror...su saque quizá el mejor de la historia confundia a todos con sus variantes...quizá uno de los mejores de la historia...
@eguken1813 років тому
強すぎ!! カッコよすぎます cool
@vicsetyono85472 роки тому
Both are legends
@dickn.ormous1064Рік тому
Waldner is legend,Boll didn't win anything.And don't tell me about the Chinese 'cause if Waldner was lefthanded like Boll he would have won at least 5 WTTC.Imagine Waldner's forehand hook going to the backhand of penholders.That would be massacre.
@ollebengtsson53207 років тому
This is remarkable! I assumed he would retire after they changed the ball size at the age of 37 for Waldner. I completely new sport basically! Instead at the age of 40 he beats all the upcoming stars of the world to reach the Olympic final! That alone makes him the master of masters!
@norbertwiesner5696 років тому
Surely, JO Waldner was a genius in table tennis. But in 2004 he didn't reach the Olympic Final, at the end "only" Number 4 without a medal.
@Longshot3212 років тому
there is no other greater victory music than Dancing Queen
@shirokisasaki32333 роки тому
Oh I suddenly rememebered why I had a huge crush on Timo boll When I was a kid, he looked so FINE here
@user-gc3hu6vj1u3 роки тому
나의우상 발트너 ♡♡♡♡♡♡♡
@zubinbharucha66866 місяців тому
Only man which all chinese players always feared. When he is in the zone, the chinese knew no one could stop him! One of the all time greats!
@pukulu3 місяці тому
Waldner made a bunch of great shots.
@RodrigoAlves00712 років тому
Quero ganhar desse cara um dia!!
@julianmirasalazar73317 років тому
waldener es él mejor jugador de la historia
@wangpunkpunk47604 роки тому
an artist in teble tennis, he let the people see the beauty of this sport.
@thejUmpyNehPets12 років тому
Keep in mind that Waldner was the master of the 38mm ball, so with the less dense, bigger ball, there is really not much competition for the Maestro
@jaimeton989 років тому
Why u only put the nice points from waldne? i think timo boll had also a good level at that time and he did nice points in that match tho.
@MarkEWallace6 років тому
Well, it *IS* titled "Waldner's points."
@PongGod5 років тому
The point of the video was basically a tribute to Waldner.
@detskalldaltas1335 років тому
We are interested of the King.
@dickn.ormous10642 роки тому
Boll made like 5 winners in whole match.He has a very boring game,just plays slow loops and counterloops near the table.
@slow_blueberry312 років тому
@TyRafferty Best points of the master Waldner. I wonder what that description means
@brahms00812 років тому
Unbelievable !
@snailpower18905 років тому
To me waldner' match against Timo boll is the very definition of consistency in table tennis
@TheYu8713 років тому
great points from WALDNER
@Malin0317 місяців тому
Wow. Klassiker
@liebestraumer13 років тому
and the complete game where is it?
@konichiwa43394 роки тому
genius って言葉が1番似合う卓球選手
@PrinceArt7713 років тому
@QuantumStates the description says "Best points of the master Waldner"
@utuber878112 років тому
@davvidd19 The title is misleading.
@TyRafferty12 років тому
@canuckdia It means my feeling was right. You should really read more if you can't figure out what the description means.
@user-ys8dk3bk4d4 роки тому
卓球界の永遠のスターだと思う!
@ribhavgupta61485 років тому
So according to this video... Timo didn't have a single noteworthy point. Are these highlights or a 10 minute advertisement for Waldner??
@enzo03885 років тому
Wtf there are just only the points he did. U can see how strong Timo Boll was
@user-bs7xx1rg2i4 роки тому
J.O.Waldner для меня самый крутой,леганда настольного тенниса👍
@XLoaferY13 років тому
@Jayakiran1 afaik, it's his trainer/coach
@jifluffiee12 років тому
@DMDLTLT true
@martinhelmut37762 роки тому
Einfach der Beste
@QuantumStates13 років тому
The commentator said at the beginning (in German): "The king of table tennis...Jan-Ove Waldner".
@zodinlianiatyi32814 роки тому
Hi im from the future 2019 can you. Please reply if youre still alive lol!!
@neilclark80876 років тому
China dominate world TT since 20 years, but even the best chinese players dont have the magic, charisma and natural born talent than J.O.W, the poker face. I guess he was born with a TT bat. True legend
@J040Z1NH013 років тому
the ball has to cross the table on the service?
@Poseidon99Jeus11 років тому
For sure he's the mozart of table tennis
@TyRafferty12 років тому
@davvidd19 Where is the description?
@prattle12814 років тому
how long would a match like this take? an hour or so?
@backinthegame344 роки тому
The best ever !
@soccerfish813 років тому
Nevermind didn't read the description... Just figured that since the title described a match, it would show both sides rather than all the points from one player.