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Lawrence duh

Justin Fields had to deal with COVID like no other and he still was Elite with no Spring Training, one third the reps and practices, with injuries, with no coach, uncertain which team he would play the upcoming week, missing 20+ players on the team...STILL Fields was a beast...and the year before that he was 2nd ONLY to Joe Burrow. Justin Fields is QB1 with the highest ceiling!!

You’re woke media. Just because he ranked fields at 2

Idk go check the Chris Simms receipts. He’s been way better at evaluating qb’s.

check out chris simms, his track record is way better at evaluating QBs

Most of them will fail, or will be average at best. The only ones that will succeed will probably only be Lawrence and whoever SF takes

@@jakejohnson7558 I think you are a 100% correct.

You are joking right..?? His track record is appalling... 2017 draft QB rankings 1 Kizer 2 Watson 3 Trubisky.. - he didn't even have Mahomes in his Top 50 players list..!!! 2018 draft QB rankings 1 Darnold 2 Mayfield 3 Rosen 4 Jackson 5 Allen - completely wrong way round 2020 draft QB ranking 1 Burrow 2 Tua 3 Love 4 Herbert 5 Fromm - Tua is average and Herbert 4 are you kidding me!! He will be wrong again this year as Fields will be not be as good an "NFL QB" as Wilson or Jones. Klatt should self scout himself and spend a whole week listening to Chris Simms evaluate QBs, he will learn loads and maybe next year he might actually get something right..!! Lol

@@RC-9 1. He’s talking about him as a commentator lmao. 2. You’re wrong about Fields 3. Chris’s Simms is not gospel lol he said Trubisky was the least likely to be a bust and was rlly high on him. 4. When it comes to Fields he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He lists accuracy as a main problem despite accuracy other than his athleticism being his best trait. His motion does not impede him at all

@@youngboyxaj6692 lol

@@RC-9 don’t have anything to add or you’re jus going to “lol”

@@youngboyxaj6692 it’s pointless talking to you if you’re unwilling to spend the time watching tape and to listen, properly and in full to Simms analysis of the QBs. If you do both of these things then we can have a constructive conversation. OTherwise I’m not prepared to waste my valuable time debating with someone who is uninformed and simply using “stats” and klatts whose track record is appalling as your so called evidence Fields is the next Mahomes.. I watch tape and study, seriously study with my own eyes the QBs and how that will translate to the much more challenging NFL defenses. Fields has many flaws that Simms points out and after studying every Fields snap of last year I agree. It seems many NFL teams also agree... I can give you my full analysis of Fields if you wish - let me know.. College “stats” can be useful but if you rely on them solely then you do not understand the game and especially the NFL my friend. Also, if you’re going to use stats as your only guide to predict success, then you really should study ALL the stats - I suggest you go away and find out Fields rating “under pressure”, then compare to Jones and the others. The difference is HUGE and I’d suggest that as you rely on “stats” so much and if you are able to understand that NFL defenses pressure QBs far more than in College then you may have to change your overhyped view on Fields somewhat... Happy tape study 👌😊

Fields

Fields or Wilson 🔥

Wilson has more high praise, big talk about him now, he's got swagger... Accuracy/bullets (Stafford like) Fields more Murray and Russ... That works, and probably what it'll be; but it'd be funny to have 2 QBs in the same division named Wilson, too. (Could surprise us and go with Mac.)

@@Hitch_49 I’m half thinking they take Lance ffs with all this talk of keeping Jimmy. Keep Jimmy for a year and slow roll Lance. As a Niners fan I’ll be livid lol

They should get lance he’s the best quarterback in that draft

You are joking right..?? His track record is appalling... 2017 draft QB rankings 1 Kizer 2 Watson 3 Trubisky.. - he didn't even have Mahomes in his Top 50 players list..!!! 2018 draft QB rankings 1 Darnold 2 Mayfield 3 Rosen 4 Jackson 5 Allen - completely wrong way round 2020 draft QB ranking 1 Burrow 2 Tua 3 Love 4 Herbert 5 Fromm - Tua is average and Herbert 4 are you kidding me!! He will be wrong again this year as Fields will be not be as good an "NFL QB" as Wilson or Jones. Klatt should self scout himself and spend a whole week listening to Chris Simms evaluate QBs, he will learn loads and maybe next year he might actually get something right..!! Lol

Yes and no there were enough time it was too noticeable he had a really good OLine and receivers as well as having mobility in his game, he’s too good and had too many other tools around him to hold onto the ball as long as he did a lot of times, times where he should’ve even just thrown it away, what you said is true about the route development but he still held onto the ball long enough to warrant comments about it, it’s also a coachable thing and doesn’t affect my ranking on him personally

@@rayparker4231 I’ve already seen the breakdown. If I find it, I will provide the link!

Chris Simms is No1

@@joeclark2201 Chris Simms thinks mond is better than fields. Lmao

@@jackwestfall6555 I guess we will see

How tf can a list be correct before the season happens to be so smart you sound dumb😂

@@jackwestfall6555 You don’t study film at all whatsoever and you haven’t played QB at the highest level so I doubt you know more about analyzing QBs more than Chris Simms.

You are joking right..?? His track record is appalling... 2017 draft QB rankings 1 Kizer 2 Watson 3 Trubisky.. - he didn't even have Mahomes in his Top 50 players list..!!! 2018 draft QB rankings 1 Darnold 2 Mayfield 3 Rosen 4 Jackson 5 Allen - completely wrong way round 2020 draft QB ranking 1 Burrow 2 Tua 3 Love 4 Herbert 5 Fromm - Tua is average and Herbert 4 are you kidding me!! He will be wrong again this year as Fields will be not be as good an "NFL QB" as Wilson or Jones. Klatt should self scout himself and spend a whole week listening to Chris Simms evaluate QBs, he will learn loads and maybe next year he might actually get something right..!! Lol

You are joking right..?? His track record is appalling... 2017 draft QB rankings 1 Kizer 2 Watson 3 Trubisky.. - he didn't even have Mahomes in his Top 50 players list..!!! 2018 draft QB rankings 1 Darnold 2 Mayfield 3 Rosen 4 Jackson 5 Allen - completely wrong way round 2020 draft QB ranking 1 Burrow 2 Tua 3 Love 4 Herbert 5 Fromm - Tua is average and Herbert 4 are you kidding me!! He will be wrong again this year as Fields will be not be as good an "NFL QB" as Wilson or Jones. Klatt should self scout himself and spend a whole week listening to Chris Simms evaluate QBs, he will learn loads and maybe next year he might actually get something right..!! Lol

@@RC-9 I'm not too aware on his track record but for this 2021 QB draft (and since I too made my research on it), I agree with his Top 5. :)

@@miaduque8014 So, the 2 QBs I massively disagree with Klatt are Jones and Fields, so here's my evaluation of every one of Fields plays from 4 random games last season (note none of these games are the 2 stinkers he had v Indiana and Northwestern): 1. Nebraska Every one of Fields completed passes were to open, usually WIDE open, receivers and he was under very little or no pressure. When under pressure he always looks to run first, and does not throw good passes. He freezes when there's no running lane and is sacked easily, he has stiff hips and doesn't move around the pocket well. He threw receivers into massive hits twice nearly getting them killed. Commentators are ridiculous stating "near flawless game bla bla" - Andy Dalton would've been flawless with that protection and wide open receivers!! No wonder people start to believe all the hype... 2. Penn State Slightly better that a small number of completed passes were under a "little" pressure, but only 1 completed pass was to a covered receiver. And again he mainly either runs or throws incompletions when pressured and players are covered. Listen to the commentators - they're always shouting "the receiver is WIIIDE OPEN"... OLine protection brilliant again. Fields NEVER completes a pass if he's pressured and the receiver is partially covered. 3. Mich State 17 completions - "only 1" was to a covered receiver, again they're all WIIIDE OPEN - listen to the commentators!! I could throw these passes, you probably could! And here's the very worrying part - every single one of his incompletions were because he was pressured or the receivers were partially covered. Watch the game and tell me otherwise... When he's pressured he always looks to run. Or worse, he actually 'freezes' sometimes, and gets sacked. That doesn't happen to Great NFL QB's... I don't see progressions at all, other than very simple WIIIIDE OPEN 'check downs'. He threw receivers into big hits again. Again commentators saying how amazing he is is absolutely ridiculous bullcrap! Yes he runs well (at college level) but his throws in this game were to wide open receivers and he was under no pressure in the pocket. So yes he's accurate if he has no pressure and the receiver is open - that's not enough to be a good NFL starter... 4. Clemson Every completion except 1 was to open receivers and "EVERY" completion was under no pressure. Again when they were covered or he was under pressure he either ran or threw incompletions. By the way - he runs well, but he is not Lamar, he will get smashed in the NFL, he is another RG3 injury waiting to happen. He throws a nice long ball IF he isn't under pressure, but if receivers are covered he doesn't know what to do (if he has no simple checkdown). The pocket was huge in this game as per usual and listen to the commentators again, "receivers are WIIIIDE OPEN"...!! The tape is pretty conclusive, Fields is in a very well protected and schemed offense where he was throwing to WIDE OPEN receivers 90% of the time under zero pressure 90% of the time, and when he was under pressure or receivers were covered he struggled badly unless his legs saved him. There is a HUGE risk here that when he gets into the superfast, super schemed up defenses of the NFL it will be a completely different ball game for him and he could be another one of those overhyped "athlete" college QBs who simply cannot cope in the Pro game...

Sorry Mia, one more thing I was watching PFT yesterday and they showed a Pro Football Focus stat from 2019 comparing the 3 College QB's Jones, Fields and Lance. Comp% was similar although Jones was highest with 76.7%, Fields had 69.9% TD/Int Jones 41/4, Fields 22/6 Avg depth similar Fields 10.4, Jones 8.8 Deep pass rating similar Jones 128.0, Fields 117.2 But then here was the HUGE disparity which if I'm honest didn't surprise me at all after watching the Fields tape: Under Pressure Rating - Jones 123.9, Fields 54.1 (Lance 117.0) I mean, WOW that's a huge difference of 69.8!! And looking at the ESPN 2021 NFL draft QB class piece, Fields was even worse under pressure in 2020, again miles behind Jones! This has to be hugely concerning for NFL Teams where the QB's are pressured far more than Fields ever was at Ohio State... Whereas Jones under pressure performance is phenomenal, with his stats comparing to Joe Burrow's records the prev year (as per Mcshay and Parolin's glowing assessment of Jones on ESPN). So, in summary you have to watch the tape from an NFL lense, not a college lense, lots of completions stats may look good but that's only when Fields is not pressured and his receivers are open. However, when one or both of those things isn't true - which will be a heck of a lot more in the NFL - he runs, panics/gets sacked or throws incompletions - which many will become interceptions in the NFL. I also don't see him doing progressions (except to wide open checkdowns) or many anticipation passes and he throws his receivers "into" big hits, whereas watch Jones tape and every throw he makes hits the receiver in stride and allows them to carry on running and make yardage after catch. I fear Justin is another one of those over-hyped college 'athletic' QB's (by so called tv analyst experts that don't actually study film) that just doesn't have the natural pocket presence, nouse and passing ability that will cut it in the superfast super complex NFL defense World... Hope I'm wrong by the way he seems a great kid :)

You are joking right..?? His track record is appalling... 2017 draft QB rankings 1 Kizer 2 Watson 3 Trubisky.. - he didn't even have Mahomes in his Top 50 players list..!!! 2018 draft QB rankings 1 Darnold 2 Mayfield 3 Rosen 4 Jackson 5 Allen - completely wrong way round 2020 draft QB ranking 1 Burrow 2 Tua 3 Love 4 Herbert 5 Fromm - Tua is average and Herbert 4 are you kidding me!! He will be wrong again this year as Fields will be not be as good an "NFL QB" as Wilson or Jones. Klatt should self scout himself and spend a whole week listening to Chris Simms evaluate QBs, he will learn loads and maybe next year he might actually get something right..!! Lol

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Ooooo ya you right you right all these different Qb breakdowns staring to run into each other

lol

because they're smart

@@ericspicer5132 and how are they smart

@@xovAvox bc they can watch football and see that Mac Jones is nowhere near any of the top 4 guys lmao its not hard to have good numbers with 4 first round receivers, a first round runningback, and multiple first round O Linemen the past 2 years. Hes a decent prospect but he does not belong in the conversation with any of those top 4 guys

@@ericspicer5132 Having talent around you doesn't make your throws any less impressive or your ability to read defenses any less important. He may have a good team but he's also playing better defenses in the SEC. Mac Jones is as pro ready as anyone else and didn't even have Jaylen Waddle for most of the season. I don't like making the competition argument when there are guys like Zach Wilson who are amazing, but Trey Lance played at NDSU for one season a year ago and didn't even play well in the game he had this season. He constantly relied on his running as shown by him not even having 300 pass attempts on the season. Even Lamar had 400+ pass attempts in college multiple seasons. How can you accurately judge a guy when that's the case? His game won't translate well to the NFL easy enough to say he's better than Mac Jones.

@@xovAvox he has better arm strength and accuracy than Mac Jones. His ceiling is astromaumically higher. Mac is a game manager, he had receivers wide open half the time in college

You are joking right..?? I could throw a 60 yard bomb. Klatt's track record is appalling... 2017 draft QB rankings 1 Kizer 2 Watson 3 Trubisky.. - he didn't even have Mahomes in his Top 50 players list..!!! 2018 draft QB rankings 1 Darnold 2 Mayfield 3 Rosen 4 Jackson 5 Allen - completely wrong way round 2020 draft QB ranking 1 Burrow 2 Tua 3 Love 4 Herbert 5 Fromm - Tua is average and Herbert 4 are you kidding me!! He will be wrong again this year as Fields will be not be as good an "NFL QB" as Wilson or Jones. Klatt should self scout himself and spend a whole week listening to Chris Simms evaluate QBs, he will learn loads and maybe next year he might actually get something right..!! Lol

Be a good QB, which he isn’t

@@Jeremy-ed7fy So not good QBs just win Natties.

When someone gets injured it's out of their hands, if you're too short or tall for the position it's out of your hands, just because it's out of his hands doesn't mean it's not a concern. Maybe Trey Lance would have taken a step back this year and been a mid round pick, maybe not. There is uncertainty there.

Name a starting qb from Ohio State. Name one from BYU. Name one from North Dakota that isn’t a turnover machine. Name one from Clemson that didn’t single-handedly carry the team to a natty first (as opposed to GETTING carried to one like Trevor did). Do you seriously not hear how stupid you sound?

@@fleektimusprime4772 that is a meritless argument and is not germane to the point I raised because you do know there are starting QBs that are active in the NFL correct ... i.e. Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray from OU for instance or Patrick Mahomes from Texas Tech ... but they happen not to be from 'Bama was my point .. so then what was your point again?

@@fleektimusprime4772 what is your IQ?

before I forget also Cam Newton from Auburn ... ouch!

or Jalen Hurts from OU ... ouch!

"Justin Herbert isn't a first round talent to me"

Spot on his track record is appalling... (how is he still in a job!!) 2017 draft QB rankings 1 Kizer 2 Watson 3 Trubisky.. - he didn't even have Mahomes in his Top 50 players list..!!! 2018 draft QB rankings 1 Darnold 2 Mayfield 3 Rosen 4 Jackson 5 Allen - completely wrong way round 2020 draft QB ranking 1 Burrow 2 Tua 3 Love 4 Herbert 5 Fromm - Tua is average and Herbert 4 are you kidding me!! He will be wrong again this year as Fields will be not be as good an "NFL QB" as Wilson or Jones. Klatt should self scout himself and spend a whole week listening to Chris Simms evaluate QBs, he will learn loads and maybe next year he might actually get something right..!! Lol

No. It’s what they’re smoking with Wilson and Jones.

Trey lance kinda scares me because of not alot of reps. He's a project player. He should go to Atlanta because they have Matt Ryan and is under contract so he could mentor Trey

@@DTS_I Zach Wilson/Josh Allen nuff said, Mac Jones is the traditional NFL quarterback who is a first rounder in any draft except this one because for some reason running is more important than playing from the pocket 🤷‍♂️

Is it past your bedtime Nathan?

Ehlinger?

Bruh you must be trolling

Found the Texas fan💀

What about lance

Totally agree

Go jags baby Go jags

If u really think he’s a bust then u must either not know football or your a salty jets fan LMFAOO or one of the teams that can’t get him

He’s a generational talent at the QB position and he will win many many games and one day win a Super Bowl for the jaguars and I can’t wait

@@ktb_1006 nah all this hype he’s not going to deliver mark my words he won’t

Yawn. Tell it to Dabo.

He fought against the woke media in order to play this year😂 the woke aren’t high on this guy that’s why he is dropping. Good arm talent, completion percentage, and touchdown to interception ratio. He had like 2 bad games and people lose their minds.

@@levimoell6599 You should here Chris Simms "negatives" on him, because his "bad short passes and technic" can be seen even in his best games. And if you are not great on 10-15 yards passes, you will have a problem in the NFL.

@@levimoell6599 lol fr right

Fields has more arm talent than Jones. He has a stronger arm. Also he is very athletic. At worst he is a mediocre thrower and a good runner. Like Josh Allen his first few years before this past season.

Jets fans 😂

@@ronjones1995 actually a 9ers fan

If you have Lawrence at 4 you no longer have an opinion

@@rapsheets4993 Dude is overrated

Why fields at 5 tho he has much potential that wilson and mac jones. I like mac jones but wilson for sure is a bust

@@abhinavbinu3545 I think Fields is the best athlete of the bunch. But he prefers to run quickly if #1 read isn't open. He must learn to pass and go through his reads fully before running. Running QB take a beating in the NFL. Also, his team was almost always 10X better and his passing attack against top teams like vs bama/clemson was to inconsistent.

@@ericschmitt8509 Fields is a college type of QB.A poor mans Sam Darnold with some more athleticism.(and I consider Darnold a semi bust).The reads have to be defined for him to suceed.He is a one read guy and if its not therehe takes off and runs or its a turnover.

@@ericschmitt8509 but his ceiling is higher than wilson and jones he could even be better than trevor lawrence if he is in a good situation

@@abhinavbinu3545 I don't think he has a higher ceiling than Wilson. But he does compared to Jones. However Fields floor is also lower too. NFL for a QB must be pass then run when you must. Fields is the opposite. He might change, but usually that trait doesn't last long. When he does throw, holds the ball to long. Against bad teams he threw well nothing elite. Against teams equal in talent he wasn't that good throwing. Also, I think if he stayed in the SEC instead of the Big 10 he wouldn't have had the stats he did, even with a comparable talent level at georgia.