he missed out Wrexham, the oldest professional sports team in the world, who fell from top tier of English football to the fifth tier where they were purchased by Ryan Reynolds. "Welcome To Wrexham" on Disney details the start of his journey, along with best pal Rob (from It's Always Sunny) to get Wrexham back up to the top tier of English football once more.

Soccer is a British Term. That's where it derived. The term soccer really caught on in USA because that was the most popular term for it but the term football gained popularity again and was replaced by the majority. They used to have Soccer Sunday on Television. They only despise the word soccer because Americans utilize the term.

Soccer is derived from the full name for the sport "Association Football". People would call the sport either team Football or team association, later shortened to "soccer". The term football was primarily used in England while the name soccer really caught on in Ireland. Later many Irish immigrated to the US and Canada and the name came with them. The name also stuck due to American's calling a sport that primarily makes use of ones hands (and ironically where the only people who kick the ball are ex-soccer players who only had a good kick, but lacked all other skills); Football.

Yanks so backward

@@painstruck01 Notts County would like a word, they formed in 1862, vs Wrexham in 1864. The oldest club is the Sheffield Football Club, 1857, but I don't think they're professional.

Hoping they can survive the season

And before Leicester won the league of course

Wrexham are starting this journey from non-league and are definitely on an upwards trajectory.

On the other end of the spectrum, Oldham Athletic were once a premier League team and are now playing in the conference (the first team to ever fall that far from grace) but this happened a while after this interview

In the 80s Wimbledon came from from non-league to top flight in 5 or 6 years and left with an FA Cup in their cabinet. Also, google Vinny Jones Paul Gascoigne for an, erm, iconic image.

Show the clip!!

"They"? 🤨

@@worthless_opinion What's your problem pal?

@@worthless_opinionthey, as in the production team of the show.

@@worthless_opinion They, as in, the crew of the show.

Oliver is British and league football originated in the UK...so I think asking him is fine. The answer wasn't that clear though😅😅😅

Football was invented in England. And before any smug pedants mention the Chinese or Greeks, I'm talking about the competitive sport with its two nets and codified rules. Not just kicking a spherical object.

@@j.harrison6744 Some people say football was invented in Scotland.

​@@j.harrison6744 actually ⚽️ was invented by a Franco Germanic tribe who then brought it to the Hooligans on the Isle

@@invernessfan3017 Well, "some people" are wrong.

Seemed like Dave was trying to redirect Oliver's slam on capitalism.

Strangely enough, it's actually self-deprecating.

I thought he tried to make it too funny and ignored the facts. Leeds and Leicester are not "peasant teams" for example.

Yeah. He claimed that his true love was football over his present lot in life, but it was clear comedy is his real love. Dave seemed to want to have a serious discussion about the sport but clearly JO was looking for joke set ups.

@@chm4gscthe joke-splaining format gets tiring to watch

@@eriklakeland3857Yeah, but remember the old saying of ''it's funny 'cus it's true''? Well for the same reason, if you know that the premise is wrong, it's not funny. Saying nobody moves up is ridiculous. He should know that if teams move down they must be replaced by teams from the league blow. Otherwise the Premier League would be empty in a few short years. I think JO is less of a fan than he'd have Americans believe.​

He also just went against 70% of the things he's stated, previously

Had people asking what team I played for because I was wearing a river plate jersey. I almost died

I immediately thought of Leicester, too.

@@randomuser6907 What is a river plate jersey?

@@Kurt-ci1dk only the jersey of the biggest and best team in arg and South America

@@randomuser6907 thanks...I suspected something like that. As a hockey person i have often considered that sport is a matter of acculteration...tried as i might to avoid falling asleep during premier league matches. Btw...I do so enjoy tweaking my euro friends by calling soccer...soccer.

Oh you are sooo wrong, it is British humour! We don't big ourselves up, as that is showing off. Hence why we brits cringe when you yanks do it. Calm is best, it's in our dna. 🎉

It's generally an art the Brits are good at, but John Oliver is indeed a true master

Yeah I'm an NBA fan but if somebody asks me I always need to stop and think about it before saying "Uh, 30." Talk a bout a league that could really use relegation....

Yeah and he can't clearly explain how teams are promoted and relegated

He’s a Liverpool supporter. He doesn’t need to worry about such trifling details. I’ve watched games with Manchester United supporters and they can barely acknowledge there’s another team on the pitch..

My gosh to not give the Leicester (winning premier league) or man city (played 3rd div only like 20 years ago) examples of the league system is pretty bad.

​@@davidgoldstein7149 I agree with City, as they won in 2012, but you can't fault him for Leicester. This show aired on 30. September 2014, around 1.5 years before Leicester became champions ;)

Who?🫤

@@joeybaseball7352Ryan Reynold and Rob McElhenney co-own a Welsh football club. There’s a FX sports documentary series about it.

@@kstepko oh, I didn't recognize them by just their surnames.

now you guys have Messi. I'm so jealous.

And did an awful job of it. For a supposed fan he doesn't know much and couldn't explain it even with letterman dragging it it is him

Liverpool fan from London. Also the National League (was the conference is also mainly professional). It then moves to semi professional part time lower down. It doesn't hit amateur in England until you get down to the 10th level.

That was once in a lifetime achievement, what Leicester did. They then proved John right by getting relegated.

not really. Leicester's victory was an absolute anomaly. Nobody, not even the most ardent Foxes fan could have seen that coming. They could have dream it but no, no one. You don't set 5000/1 odds if you even remotely think that would happen (a guy actually bet a few pounds as a wishful thinking at the beginning of the season and welp, KACHING!)

They're a championship team.

100%

Exactly. He's explaining footie to a man who said the cover of THE Rolling Stone magazine. He could explain it properly but it would be boring and pretty much pointless to that audience. Just like explaining American handball or baseball would be to a UK chat show audience.

I think Letterman thought that all leagues are competing equally with each other each season and John Oliver just missed that point (because he was too much into his jokes).

Yeah, but even if he's just giving the basics, knowing how many teams are in the league is like literally _the most basic_ knowledge you could possibly have about the sport you profess to love. I don't even have to think about it to know that there are 20 teams in the Premier League and 24 teams in the Championship, League 1 and League 2 (and John couldn't even get the names of those last two leagues right. He called them Division 1 and Division 2, which were the old names of the Premier League and The Championship about 40 years ago)

Letterman is also an owner (or part owner) of an auto racing team.

So...nobody buys their way into or out of anything? He was just wrong about money making a difference?

He definitely knows the rules but knows Americans don’t care enough to fully understand them so he makes a bit about it

bottom two teams get relegated, the team third from the bottom goes to a playoff.... So not necessarily three teams relegated. you are not hilarious and you dont know the promotion relegation rules!

@@haakonrem "you are not hilarious" lmao you're a comedy gem yourself

@@hayberdasher8625 The system seems to be pretty much what we have here in Germany, too. So you have two teams moving down and two teams moving up guaranteed and possibly three each; the teams don't buy into a franchise and just stay there regardless of how poor they perform. I think we have like eight levels of leagues and it can and has happened that a team from the top-league plummeted down to a level where they're ~never heard of again on a national level. Reversely some village team can rise to the top league and beyond (international); either through years and years or decades of hard work. Or if you have a billionaire (from the software or softdrink industry, for example) that just throws money at that club; money does make a difference when you can just buy any player you want.

Bingo. Words by Shel Silverstein.

He also just went against 70% of the things he's stated, previously

I love myself some football. I don’t know how many teams there are in any league. I could probably count them in my head but I don’t know immediately how many teams there are

Luton where in division five a few years back and now they are premier league!!

His wife got emotionalized by propaganda and fought in an illegal resource war. Why is John cognitively dissonant about this? He's usually so smart...

@@yeetyeet7070 I have no idea what you're talking about.

Laughs remotely (US here) at Sheffield Wednesday. Sometimes a maverick multimillionaire from afar isn't enough.

Former? Did you get signed by a pro-league side? AFAIK Sunday league players never retire.

@@openlyclosed6244 I left the UK few years ago but my heart will still be with the Northgate Rangers of Canterbury!

Me too

Me three @@Thecrib796

Me too but I applaud the solidarity. I remember when The Daily Show did "A Daily Show" which was kind of borderline.

Soccer comes from the term "association football"

Perhaps they should chop wood with that hooter .I'd pay to watch :0)

He’s from Indiana. Do you expect more? It’s like trying to explain world culture to a cheesehead from Wisconsin. It will never sink in. Hopeless.

Yes that's the worst thing about him. Liverpool fan from London. Aka glory hunter.

@@davedavids57 moron. His parents are Liverpudlian

Nope. It was an awful explanation. Letterman managed to liken it relatively Successfully to a Baseball team going down to AAA, AA etc. Oliver is wrong - big teams do go down a league, and sometimes two (Man City 20 years ago, Leicester/Southampton/Leeds/Sunderland were all 3rd tier recently too), and teams do make it from 4th or even 5th tier to the premier league (Bournemouth/Luton).

This clip was from quite awhile ago so he may not have been wrong at the time. Letterman has been off the air since 2015

@@casseahewson2660 he was still wrong at the time mate. The Prem has NEVER been 20 teams. The conference hasn't been amateur before, it's always been a mix of professional and semi professional teams. He's a typical armchair supporter, not even from Liverpool, he's a southerner, his local side is most likely a London one. He hasn't a clue how the football pyramid works, it's embarrassing that he calls himself a football fan.

@@rustynail1194 I think primarily he was messing with Dave. They are both dry and sarcastic

@@casseahewson2660 yeah but you know how obsessive sports fans are, he knows he'd get ripped for mistakes 😉

Your Welcome

Not completely true. English Premier league is one of the few major leagues where surprises can still happen, e. g. Leicester's great title from 2016. Imagine that in Spain. No chance.

I Googled her right after that! She’s gorgeous!

It seems he likely died of shame after failing to accurately describe the Premier League and the concept of promotion and relegation in English football.

Who the heck are you talking about.

Yeah and you would do it in the most unfunny way because you're not a comedian and he is. Lol what a stupid comment to make.

It says he's toooooo F-in successful to F around about it. Clearly not an issue for some people.

I’m wondering if this - and the Jimmy Kimmel clip yesterday - is intended to promote the late night hosts’ upcoming podcast.

Ha. Now that is how nationalism works. Ha. And classism too, if you watch a lot of national team sports-makes people: angry, war-hungry and obedient, not to mention tribally minded. Did u by chance vote for in favor of Brexit, mate?

@@greatmcluhansghost7134 No

@@greatmcluhansghost7134 just correcting someone who claims to be a fan but is working off info from 30 years ago

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@@greatmcluhansghost7134 Classism? WTF? Relegation and promotion system is what makes European leagues system far superior and more competitive than any North American-type closed league. Where any town can have its club promoted to higher levels on merit, and where clubs are true clubs that represent something. And not "franchises" that can switch cities on their owner's whim. And I am not even an Englishman.

Tuberculosis sadly.

But - we’re learning! ⚽️ 🥅

are we supposed to feel bad about your shortcoming?

I'm sorry about your autism

I suggest trying corrective lenses.

​@@LazarusWAs Dave would say..."About an hour at Lens Crafters."

Luton Town!