What do you think? Who killed Ringo?

I think like you do, a troubled man decides to close his book and say good night. Given his backstory - his history - sounds about right. Thanks for sharing.

Yeah Josh, I agree Ringo took himself out. The way you explained the scenario makes sense and I've had a few of those days myself. Excellent story telling. Thank you.

I lived in tombstone for a little while. I've been to Johnny Ringo's grave. I talked to the locals that are well into there 80's. Buckskin Leslie was seen heading in the direction Johnny road in. It's totally against Johnny Ringo's character MO to commit suicide. He believed in himself strong minded. There was a lot of people after him. And he was found with cheap pistols not the ones that he owned. I believe Buckskin Leslie killed him.

The latest theory I've read is the teamster shot and killed him. He knew Ringo from Texas and was on the opposite side of the Mason County War. When he came back the next day and saw he was still there he notified the neighboring rancher he had found the dead outlaw.

Michael Bien did an excellent job portraying Johnny Ringo.

I don't comment often but seriously the hotline talk really hit me hard. I lost my dad to it 11 years ago and he is the reason I listen to stuff like your content because I feel connected to him again. He would have love these videos. Seriously want to thank you for that. Have a good day my friend

I agree, suicide is the most likely cause of death for Johnny Ringo. I spent my fair share of years battling with PTSD and a number of years helping other veterans struggling with PTSD as a counselor. Even had some that I just could not seem to reach that cause me some hurt to this day and is why I no longer work in that field from what you've described, based on statements made from people who knew him suicide would definitely not be out of the question and since everyone who claimed otherwise has been outright proven to be incorrect with their own claims of killing him it leaves suicide as the most likely situation and I'd bet it played out about like you speculated. Johnny Ringo, still drunk, feeling tired of life kicking him in the balls, tired of never being rid of whatever was chasing him decided that there was only one way to end his problems once and for all.

Amazing to realize that Johnny Ringo was Ringo Starr's grandfather! History is always surprising.

You have the perfect voice for this ... and your humor quite often makes me laugh out loud...

Modern research has shown that it’s extremely rare for a suicide gunshot to the head to still have the pistol in hand. Suspect.

You're absolutely the best. I listen to you all the time at work. Your voice rings well, and your opinions on various matters are fantastic. I have even heard you apologize exceptionally well to someone on one of your episodes and was impressed. But you're including the suicide prevention number in this one makes me really. I love you, thank you very much for doing what you do.

That conversation was perfect, you must have channeled the spirits of those two fellows!

I am distantly related to a man named John King Fisher aka King Fisher. He was a shootist and evidently really good with two 6 shooters at the same time. He was friendly with Doc Holiday and Bat Masterson. Unfortunately he was shot and killed in a gun fight at a hotel he and another guy was at. My father has letters that his grandmother had from family members who talked about him. The family evidently didn't want anything to do with him.

I love your work and snuck in another subscriber. Wish I could do more but in the meantime keep up the good work and good luck.

Another great episode! Thanks for all you do!

Very well done. I am catching up on your channel. I was stationed at Ft Huachuca AZ. Spent some time in Tombstone and exploring the area. I went to Johnny's grave.

First time listener, great, great video man!

Wow, great take on the mystery. Of course, none of us were there and the records are often full of fanciful embellishments, but this was a great take that makes sense. BTW, Doc may or may not have said, "I'm your Huckleberry," but it was a fairly common Southern expression at the time meaning "I'm your man," or "I'm the man for the job." Like so many expressions, it kind of doesn't make any sense to anyone who didn't grow up with it.

I've seen a few Johnny Ringo videos and yours is definitely the best. Good clear information, good balance sharing your opinion, GREAT se se of humor woven in with Huckleberry and Daisy references between he and Doc Holiday. 😂😂😂 Also nice touch on sharing suicide prevention hotline.

Thank you again for the great work.

Best explanation of Ringos demise I’ve heard..excellent narration..and conclusion Thank you

It absolutely cannot be doc Holliday he was 700 miles away. It absolutely could not be Wyatt Earp he was six hundred miles away and both of these are verifiable. It was either buckskin Frank Leslie or John Ringo about those are really the only two suspects. I know the movie list. Holiday in a stand-up gunfight but doc Holliday was 700 miles away and John Ringo was shot as he slept. He was passed out from all the liquor he had and buckskin Leslie who just a few years later would murder his live-in girlfriend saw a victim who he had argued with earlier. That is the most likely happening and he told a gourd after he murdered his live-in girlfriend that he come upon Johnny Ringo sleeping and he shot him and took a piece of his hair for souvenir. That's good enough for me especially since doc Holliday and Wyatt Earp are 100% out.. Johnny was the number one gun in tombstone all the contemporaries which are the ones that knew more than anyone of today all said he was best and it was well known that he was the best.

Love this site! Good stuff.

Great show sir, I love your humor. Lots of PTSD and demons floating around in Ringo’s head. He probably took his own life.

I hope you have a ton of social medias. Any platform you can push out your videos directing them to UKposts, man I’m sure you could get way more subscribers.

Good video mate, cheers

Great episode and agree that the simplest explanation (suicide) is the most likely. ALSO, special thank you for the shoutout for the suicide prevention hotline.

Always look forward to an episode of 'The Wild West Extravanzaaaaa.' As always, never disappointed.

Whew a bit late to the party here. Thanks for the upload!

Thanks Extravaganza; "Johnyy Ringooooo" shouted by Doc is a staple of my childhood

I respect your commitment to yourself. I am now a patron

Very interesting video as always Josh. Although the scene in Tombstone with Doc Holliday and Johnny Ringo was cool, i still go with the suicide story. I can imagine seeing what happened to his father in front of him could have have had a lasting impact on his life. Was wondering if Johnny Ringo's buddy Curly Bill Brocious would make a good topic for a video?

I have a request. Could you do a Segment on Lucian Bonaparte Maxwell and the people he knew! This guy was New Mexico from the mid to the late 1800. My ancestral home state.

I have really be enjoying your programs. Looking forward to future episodes. Ideas: Jedediah Smith, Fr. Peter De Smet, You did Carson, now do John C. Frémont, François Leclerc, Ewing Young, or the Bents who ran Bent's Fort in Colorado.

I have always found johnny ringo to be very Interesting. I recommend if you get the chance to go to his grave, it's a very beautiful spot right next to a stream. I personally would love to see a modern investigation into johnny's death, but I think it's likely he committed suicide. for the piece of scalp missing. It could also be because a 45 colt out of a 7 1/2 inch single action army point blank.. Would not be pretty. Fun fact the colt single action army that was found on him is SN 222. I came very close to buying it a few years ago at a action.

I'm very interested in the real gun men of the west. Very well done. I'll look for more of your content.

Another great episode! Thx! Your joke improv’s are hilarious! I sure get a chuckle out of ‘em!! Btw, great shout out to the suicide hotline. Inter-demons, the fight is real, no matter the circumstances.

About Doc Holliday, I read that a descendant of his, who was an attorney, read through all of the court documents and suggests that he may not have actually been physically present in Colorado at the time of Ringo's death. Instead, the document verbiage at the time may have merely indicated that he was represented, probably by counsel. If that's the case, it reopens the possibility that Doc was still in AZ when Ringo died, thus lending credence to the assertion that he killed Ringo. Just food for thought.

I've had a hangover or 2 that have made me consider ending it all.

Thanks brother love the channel

I was deputy sheriff in 92. Just like in marines we initially given model 66 revolvers.i liked them.very heavy, 2 speed loaders with my eyes closed.and speed draw easy.

“But on his grave they can’t explain the tarnished star above the name of Ringo.”-Lorne Green

Man, if this channel would’ve hit in the 90s, you would have 10 million followers by now! Good job!

😂😂i love it when you roll the R's in Extrrr🥁rrrravaganza. This is my favorite podcast for traveling around the mountains Out West slangin my wild foraged balms and libations. 🔥🙌🌲🖤💫🇺🇸 excited to download a bunch of episodes through resin foraging season out in the forest this winter! 🤘🌲🍯💫

Good stuff! Well done,that man! --Bob Bailey in Maine

Great episode! I read pretty much the same. I think it was suicide. I also learned a couple things like being from Wayne County, IN which is where Ft. Wayne is. I lived there for a while and my grandfather on my mother’s side is from there, in my Grandfathers day Ft Wayne was very small and it was all mostly farm land.

Like you work!! Enjoy all you content..

I really enjoyed our visit to tombstone. The little museum there is charming, and the townhouse, the world's largest rosebush. A yellow rose. I always enjoy cemeteries, but I don't know why we didn’t think of going to the cemetery there.

Good stuff kind sir 👍

I believe you did an excellent job of connecting the dots & covering the back story with all the other claims. I find all these stories interesting, being an old fart now history dose not seem that far away. My Great Grandfather married Ursula James, I noticed the shout out to Jesse. You look at today and think: Man it’s a crazy world. Thanks for doing good things…

it's interesting to hear this because is the movie tombstone doc calls ringo the deadliest pistolaire since wild bill and also says that ringo is an educated man just goes to show how hollywood embellishes in the movies.

When I first found your channel, I thought I was listening to Danny McBride narrating the wild west. Kenny Powers, is that you?

People who knew Ringo admitted that he was disposed to bouts of depression. However, the majority of the locals around Tombstone believed Buckskin Leslie killed him.

I've been there... close and I mean so close I woke up wondering if I was still breathing. At the time I think I didn't pull the trigger because I knew where my next high was coming from and how to get it. If I live until December 23rd I'll have been clean and sober for 10yrs. I honestly can't tell you how that happened either. I think it has a lot to do with getting the nerve up to face the demons and either forgive whoever put them there or myself one. I'm not the type to claim to have all the answers... just the opposite actually but I am grateful for never pulling the trigger.

Johnny could hardly stay straight up on his horse, so I figure he couldn't hold his revolver straight enough to shoot himself. Probably missed, and the poor slug had to orbit the whole bloody planet to come back around and whack him. The extra speed the slug picked up from the gravitational sling-shot effect would explain how it blew that piece of scalp off and dissipated it to smithereens. That's how it happened, I'm quite certain.

In my over 50 yrs of reading anything I could get my grubby little fingers on. I came to a theoretical conclusion that Ringo suffered from Depression. All his personality traits lean that way and the majority of decisions he made reinforce my theory. Being drunk as shit and depressed suicide is quite logical to that person. So your belief is very plausible. After hearing this story, I agree. Very good work Josh.

He wouldn't be the first alcoholic to kill themselves

Awhile back I was walking around the town of lampasas Texas it is a really cool old town . Then I find out Johny Ringo lived there . Pretty cool I have been to Tombstone several times and walked around in the birdcage and ate at the Oriental.

Your theory of suicide is the most logical. As stated by witnesses, Ringo was drunk out of his mind, probably suffering from some sort of depression the alcohol just enhanced the effects of his illness and “saw no other way out”, also because of his violent past he could have been suffering from a form of PTSD.

Most suicidal people don't really want to die. They just don't want to live the life they're living anymore.

He sure picked a beautiful place to get drunk and off himself. Or Buckskin Frank picked a beautiful place, anyways.

I think your suicide theory is a pretty good 1! RIP Johnny 🪦

Great video Thanks 👍

I agree with you, Josh. It was most likely suicide; with the teamster grabbing a souvenir being the best explanation for the haircut. I'm a believer in Occam's Razor: "The simplest explanation for any given situation or problem is probably correct." (paraphrased)

I agree with your conclusion (occam's razor).

your #1 captain, thanks

I like to think that Doc or Wyatt smoked him but that's not the most likely.

This is the first time I have herd this theory I was presently surprised by the info thanks man

I use a wheelchair love the movie I used fo tell people I'm Rolling until....years later I found out that meant i was high...I've since stopped using that line.

Any 14 year old who went to a Catholic school knows some church Latin which could account for the saying that he knew the language. Quite a simple deduction. (Church Latin is called so to differentiate it from ancient Latin such as Julius Caesar spoke hundreds of years before although it's essentially the same just like Shakespearian English is different but ...err, the same).

You nailed it, thats exactly how it happened, and i agree that the teamster would have removed the piece of scalp. In that time people would cut away body parts even pieces of clothing for souvenirs. I HAVE COMMENTED!

The alcoholism maybe just brought him to the boiling point. Many alcoholics reach their end of the rope and maybe he just didn’t want to live anymore

"I'll be your huckleberry" is like" hey mf, you want your pound of flesh, try me"

the correct phrase is "i will be your huckle bearer". a coffin was called a huckle". Holiday said he was help carry Ringo's coffin. He was saying he would survive any fight with Ringo

I believe Fnak Leslie killed him. Several witnesses had Leslie shadowing him on the ride. Ringo left a kind of bed & breakfast at Soldier's Hole after drinking there with Leslie - and when Leslie found out he'd left, he rode out after him in a hurry. That was one day before his death.

A little later than usual, but he’s been dead 100 plus years so it’s moot. Getting here late myself.

Everybody knows he was the deadliest pistolier since Wild Bill

Just for your opening monolog, I have to give you thumbs up and subscribe. Cheers!

Good theory. Well researched, one of a few possibilities. Well researched nonetheless. 🤠🤠

If the legend is a better story than the truth, go with the legend. Like you said, we'll probably never know the complete truth, and the legend is more fun.

I know alcoholism and can well imagine how terrible he could have felt!

I think you're right. Alcoholic stuck out in the Country with no horse or boots. Sounds like the last straw for a man on the brink.😢

“He was just a bit too high strung.”

"could he really speak Latin?" Lmfao I love this channel

I know it's just Hollywood but i love when Ringo said i was just messing around when I said that and doc said i wasn't.

I've heard idk in part maybe from you...gun play and 6 shooter shooting in general was not as common as u mignt think and gun deaths were much more common much like his father..accidents..we dont have crime seen photos who knows maybe it was a drunken accident.

Good episode1 👍

Good episode.

The coroners jury hadn’t any motivation to call it a homicide. Ringo was a dangerous criminal. My take is people were relieved he was dead. Wyatt Earp & Doc Holliday were in Colorado. They didn’t do it. If Ringo didn’t off himself my guess is Buckskin Frank Leslie shot him.

He killed himself plane and simple. Miles away from anywhere, no boots, drunk as shit, knew he would die in the desert before he found help. Whiskey maybe left but no water. No water in the desert is death. A slow agonizing death. So to sum up, he committed suicide.

Thanks!

The huckleberry is a sweet berry surrounded by long thorns and has been cleared from areas so cattle won't eat them.

"too many bananas"😂😂😂😂😂

I'm sure doc shot Ringo, told him he wasn't a daisy, Ringo said fuck you in Latin then doc declared the strain was more than he could bear.

Mason County is beautiful Still maintain a hunting lease in Mason County Go see it Llano River is fucking awesome. Ringo had too many enemies for me to guess but a good argument for suicide and he sound more like a mouthy drunk than a gunfighter

Agree!

Poor bastard. Imagine being a kid and seeing what he saw. Even by wild west standards it was some serious trauma.

Like everyone else here, i have no evidence. But everything i have seen and read about Ringo makes me doubt the suicide theory. I don't know who, but man like him would make a LOT of enemies. Being pissed drunk makes you vulnerable. I think someone took advantage of that.

Its the one shot that has me leaning towards suicide add in the drinking as his troubles its a strong case. Even if you dont add the possible depression you got a drunk man on foot in Arizona with no boots its possible he thought he had no chance and chose the bullet over dehydration.