Tell me where n what I can get for 100 bucks. Please tell me. I've looked and there is none. I'm now using Vizio 5.1 sound bar for 150 bucks. It sounds Aiight. Not great though. I always want heavy bass. Like call the cops bass.

@@dmo848 For a hundred bucks you can get a spool of heavy gauge speaker wire. Well, you got to start somewhere.

@@dmo848 You can find a 5.1 system. Receiver, speakers, & even the speaker wire for $100 if you look for it. Yard sales, thrift stores, craigslist, kijiji etc.... Just might take a bit of time, getting it piece by piece. And it will sound better IMO than any soundbar... because you can "tweak it" ... add/upgrade it a piece at a time. :)

Receiver sounds much better than any soundbar.

​@@dmo848do "real" 5.1 sound bars cost $100? Or only the ones which reproduce "virtual" 5.1 sound through 2.1 (or even 2.0) drivers?

Thank you! It’s a pretty simple setup. I have my FireTV cube going into HDMI4 input on the soundbar, then the HDMI out going to the TV. That’s the best setup with most all soundbar that don’t have HDMI eARC. Happy to answer any other questions you have!

@@JonahMatthes That helps a lot! Thank you!

Speaking from someone who has a high end NAD master M33 + Focal Aria floorstanders and sub I don't like it for movies. Really need a centre to enhance dialogue cause of terrible mixing in many modern films. Cough ***Nolan*** Sigh, I realy did think like you did but if i could go back in time i'd not have invested. I don't want two different systems in my lounge and yes the imaging is perfect triangulation as per manufactor gulde to the cm and speaker size choosen exactly for the room size. Honestly my 2 pet hates remain. I hate black bars and I hate having to use subtitles so I end up watching my movies on an ipad! despite THOUSANDS in oled tv and sound system. If there was a WAY to CHANGE how 5.1 is downmixed to stereo this could be solved and the ONLY way I know how to do that is a Surround reciever!

@@jondonnelly4831 I have found with good fronts and the right position, no need for a centre, it works. I may have to add I do not watch a lot of film and have no tv, but do it all on my pc. I do prefer back speakers (not side surround) and would love (tried it and loved it) just 2 top or front high. I could add more and more, and 4 overhead and stereo+wide stereo plus 4 overhead plsu bla bla. But I think the most minimal for the best sound placement is what should be, 4.1.2 in my case. I'd take 2.2.2 in a pinch (yes it really is official).

Y’all should invest in some q-tips instead 🤭

what does that mean@@krowwithakay

Well, there is low-latency Bluetooth, so hopefully manufacturers can find a way to do it wirelessly without a delay, or find a way to compensate somehow to have the audio sync with the video, I don't think it should be that difficult. But beyond that, I'd like to see them make the soundbar the center channel speaker only (there's no real stereo separation, imaging, or soundstage with a soundbar, and separate fronts are needed for that) and have all the other speakers including 2 fronts, L and R, a sub, and however many satellite surround speakers, connect wirelessly. Of course, the soundbar would be the signal processing unit/audio decoder via HDMI as well. My biggest issue with having a surround sound system, besides putting at least 5 speakers and a sub all around my room, is having to run cables from a receiver all the way to the rears, so I don't do it.

@@mydogskips2 Low latency Bluetooth is still compressed and lossy. Airplay 2 is compressed but lossless. It works with Mac, ipad and iphones but not Airplay app from a PC. Wisa uses 5GHz but is different to wi-fi with a spec of -15 to 35 ms latency. Each speaker has a receiver so no cables to or between speakers. Limited to 24/96 with the best Ethernet RJ45 systems able to do 24/192.

I have a panasonic I want a dac and amp what do you suggest does it work well with ifi zan dac 2 or hip dac 2 thx sir

truth be told stereo sounds better anyways imo

who the hell would need training? A 10 year old could figure out a receiver

It takes all of 10 minutes to figure out a receiver. And the sound quality and options will always be superior over a sound bar.

@@Canadian_Eh_I you can never go wrong with good old steroe especially a monster pioneer sx1980 from the reciever wars of the good old 70s

Can you please elaborate.. what these products are?

I already did the homework and 500$ surround receiver is a better solution and cheaper. Here is what you need to have good sound without a receiver. A hdmi extractor that gives you rca conectors for all your inputs. You can also use a good enough usb soundcard with proper drivers to run dts decoding and so on. You need minim 3 spliters 16 mm to rca. You need 3 set of rca white and red cables. And finally 2 desktop size amp with a minimum of 100 x 100 watts of power and finally a 3rd one with a pre out connection which you connect your sub to it or in one that can give at least 300 wats in a single channel L- and R+ connection. All that at modest quality is gona cost you around 600$ taxes included.

The rear surround speakers typically do NOT require a power outlet, only the Subwoofer does. You plug in the subwoofer and connect it wirelessly to the soundbar, and only run cables halfway or even less compared to running speaker wire all the way from the receiver to rear surround speakers, let alone Atmos if someone is doing that.

Hey got my phone hooked up to Yamaha receiver with 2 towers and then 5 Yamaha sorround sound hook up to 2f 2ssb and a center little speakers and 10 powered sub then out running to 200 watt Emerson Dvd d sorrund sound player with 2 towers hookup up to front speakers output and 8 in sub from sub put them got the out put of that running to my denon avr 484 which is running 2 bookshelf for fronts and 1 tower for center then 2 satellite denons speakers so literally trying to know what volume should I keep stuff at to listen and get best sound or listen all individually then run them all hook up yo each spec that sounded good individually sounds like some power getting lost cant get all to sound right for all I have running atm

Bluetooth back speakers is the best u can do unless u wanna bust out allot of cash

I know you asked this a long time ago but just curious on what route you decided on? If your looking for a proper home theater sound setup, 5 discrete speakers is the way to go along with a subwoofer. I've listened to Sonos and expensive soundboard but they don't compare to discrete speakers and a subwoofer.

Marantz makes a nice slim design receiver with plenty of power

i recomend the vizio at walmart for about 150 or less cant remember dont know the model but its best bang for your buck and it has great audio feature im pretty sure its wireless but not sure if all of it is it might be or the onn one for less than the vizio i like onn best bang for your buck and i think its wireleess too has wireless surrounds and sub i think

Yes, the "amp" is the AV receiver man!

If you want the best sound when you watch movies, you need a reciver, every other option is not that good!

Nope, they need to be powered, the receiver(via speaker wire to the speakers) provides the power along with the audio signal.

There are only a couple of devices that can accomplish something like this, but they generally are not a great experience. If you want actual surround speakers with a soundbar, you are better off getting a new system. Sorry.

@@JonahMatthes yeah, thanks for the reply

Well, be grateful you didn't build a dedicated home theater. Because you are right, very few people want them. There's an audio reviewer on another channel who talked about building a maybe six-figure home theater, and when he wanted to sell his house, the question EVERYONE had for him was, CAN I REMOVE THE THEATER ROOM? Unless you are a real movie enthusiast and just love watching movies and want a theater experience, home theaters are a complete waste of money, the above story and many articles have confirmed as much, I read that most home theaters largely go unused. I live in an apartment, and while I am an audio enthusiast, the last thing I want in my living room is six black boxes(5 speakers and a subwoofer), as well as speaker wire, strung all around my room, two front speakers and a subwoofer is more than enough.

If you think soundbars are going to be outdated, what will replace them? I mean, soundbars are made to replace big speakers with one slim unit you place under the TV, they're all about form factor and ease of setup compared to speakers and receiver. If you're saying we're going to go even smaller, fine, but if you want sound/music/audio in your space, you need to have some kind of speaker, whatever it may be, soundbar or otherwise, and the laws of physics being what they are, I doubt they'll be able to make better sounding stuff in a smaller box, there is a limit.

I second you

are you planing on using it with your tv speakers ive done that your gonna need a 15 dollar rca to fiber optic converter or to if your tv hass rca audio out you could set the rca out to variable so you dont have to run to turn down the sub like i always did it was ghetto but it woreked and you can set the volume to whatever and crossover works bwst at 80hz not lfe unless you have an old reciever laying around with lfe output becuase 80hz is the thx standard youll figure it out its a knob that says crossover and turn it up or down till its at the 809hz location set gain in middle leave eq on tv on flat if it has a tone set it how you like normal low or hjigh turn on surround sound enhancer not bass enhanecer on tv and ajuist from there may take a couple of tweaks to get it but once you do if done right youll be very impressed i saved a ton doing this back in the i meant a fible optic to rca converter not the other way or you could buy pc speakers 2.1 for 50 bucks if you do your research you might find em cheaper but 50 bucks is a quality staring point and make sure your tv and speakers have fiber optic in on speakers and out on tv or whatever audio connection it uses jus dont hook up the speakers backwoards youll lose a ton of bass and read or gooogle how to setup speakers for best acoustics for home theater cuz you want the satilites spread apart if you can i meant till it reahces 80hz you woulnt have any bass at all if you set it to 809 hz mainly low to mid mids coming through the subwofer which defeats its purpose you might actually perfer the lfe setting which is the highest it can go but as you age like me you set it to 80 and leave it oh i meant firber not fible and you can buy 5.1 pc speakers too for as low as 50 bucks for a great pair

They do that now actually! Using a technology called WiSA. It's fairly new and being implemented into more and more TV's over time. Not sure if it will take off industry wide though.

ukposts.info/have/v-deo/o4J6ZX2RZ4-epnU.html I have the Klipsch hd wireless 5.1 home theater system and there is no reciever. Just a small box that connects all the speakers wirelessly

does it have hdmi if not buy a tv with optical audio out or buy a converter than converts hdmi to coax the orange rca jack not the fm antannea or wht i call twistie cable now so peaople dont mix it up with the newer version for sending digital losseless audio to your reciever might sound better than the old way may sound the same not sure how you have it hooked up but if you have a newer game syetem or bluray player or dvd player it might not have a coax out put but if your devices do run them though coax to if its old like rca only you are a true audiophile the older stuff was built way better which is when they put quality no quaintity in theire equipment nowadaws that goes up in value plus newer stuff of equal quality cost 10k or more or 5k for simalar quality which im sure you new the way to best way to do this is to get a caox to rca converter which is still the orange jack or better yet fiber optic cuz it has less of a delay cuz it uses a laser and you plug it into the input on the led tv hey are you still looking for an led tv have a nice one in great shape form 2011 but its not 4k or smart but the picture is amazing only 32 inches though but i paid 500 bucks at best buy for it so if you arent looking for too much this will give you an amazing picture for cheap and if you read one of my post up higher it mentions my tv and how newer led tvs dont always look as good and have a washed out picture i even stood up for crts cuz there lag free and have amazing blacks and contrast but if your going to buy a cheap 55 inch for 100 bucks youll probabally miss your old tv if its a good one like the ones i mentiond oh yeah i ment fiber optic output on led tv mine has one plus even some newer tvs especially the 100 dollar 4k smart tvs wont have one unless u get one everything works on my led tv its a samsung too and its a great model make i also have a asus smart box thats like a mini pc i only paid 60 bucks for it so ill even thow in the hdmi and fiber optic cable s for freei i might have a few hdmis stored somewhere in great condition the fiber optic is like brand new but not in box i know it still works to so does the laser on my tv hope i helped sry for the long message but i wanted to anser as many questions as possible and the converter will be about 15 bucks or les on ebay or amazons your best bet and i think our walmart carries em what brand and model is your receiver speakers tv etc

Some are around 30 pounds. Must be the coils for all the transformers. I haven’t checked if anyone makes solid state receivers for high end sound systems.

Class A or AB amplifiers kick out a lot of heat, and 5 channels of fairly high power amplification needs plenty of space, not just for the components but for cooling - that's why receivers were originally that size. Nowadays you can get smaller receivers that use Class D amplifiers - they are a lot more efficient so produce less waste heat and don't need the space. However, good Class D amps tend to be expensive, and cheap ones generally sound worse than AB. The other reason they're the size they are is to fit all the connectors on the back. Small ones may be more limited in what they can offer in terms of connectivity.

Not to mention the astronomical prices of wireless. I don't think the tech and price is there yet.

Get a Bluetooth connection to whatever is powering those ceiling speakers. Then add the connection on the firestick jus like any normal speaker

like what dan said but if you dont have a reciever buy a bluetooth stereo amp on ebay just type what i said buy hook it up set volume bass treble and your good to go these can be as little as 15 to 50 bucks or more depending on what your speakers need

I agree, I have never heard a sound bar set up that sounds as good as a receiver and speakers.

You're very welcome! I appreciate the Super Thanks, first one I've ever received!

1000 thousand watt powerinverter or what ever you need make sure the 120v end is the outpuit and cigarattte lighter is powerful enough if not wire to alternator or battery dont hook it up backwards itll catch fire and blow up soem vans have 120 volt outlls you could plug in a low power home theater like a walmart one or a lower end model and it woud work or you could ger a power inverter thets strong enough to power a croc pot to power home theater if its a small one just dont go ober 150 watts total power not per channel it wont work without a big ol power inverter

I am buying a 2.1 with subwoofer, and don't have a Bluetooth TV

I just need to know what to do 'wire' wise.... do I need a dual channel so I can use both at once/is it best to buy a different kind of wire/does my TV require an amp???

My subwoofer DOES pair with the soundbar I believe...

(Not purchased just yet)

@@BeebopChickenpock I don't know what you're talking about, but if your TV has an optical digital audio output, and the soundbar has an optical input, that's all you need to connect, one cable for sound, if the subwoofer connects to the soundbar wirelessly as most do these days. (The TV doesn't need to be Bluetooth, you're connecting the TV to the soundbar via optical cable (so the audio signal is routed from the TV to the soundbar that way) and the Soundbar then connects to the subwoofer(if there is one) wirelessly, passing the LFE channel data to be played there.) No, you don't need an amp or anything else if you are just connecting a soundbar to your TV, the only thing you need to make sure of is that you have a matching output and input on each device, i.e. optical audio, HDMI, digital coax, and get that cable.

Did u blow the big concert in the park

You don't. Soundbars are made to replace a receiver and multispeaker system.

not necesserly true they make some pretty crappy recievers that are as light as a feather and still cost 250 through 500 dollars you at least have to pay 800 buck to get a solid performer compared to a nakami sound bar unless your thinking of a samsung sound bar at walmart theyre the worst tweeters awlays blow and the sub is the only nice thing i recomend brands like lg sony bose klipch polk audio or simalar viszio has best bang for buck ive seen a vizio sound bar at walmart and it surprisngly sounded way better than most samsung sound bars if the put better drivers in the one i saw id reccomend it but it has peizos which sound tinny but it was a walmart one but id prefer a mid driver doing the highs like in bose over that jank junk even a paper cone tweeter would be better make sure if you buy a samsung that its a higher model cuz samsung has cut corners on alot of there low end products never pay for a receiver new for 250 bucks unless expecting max spl and tons of great features your better off buying an older pioner sony denon marantz onkyo because those were built like a tank even if its from the 70s to 2006 id say any of those models blow away the jank recievers even priced at 3000 and up msrp if you want to make it complicated look up dolby atmos processor and youll find great brands i can only dream of where the amp is seperate but cost thousands of dollars but an amp can be as low as 150 bucks plus shipping in ment condition for bang for buck add dolby attmos cheap reciever with multi out and itll smoke even the most expensice reviverr out there cuz your using the reciever as a proccesssor disabling the amp section and make sure it has a pre out rca tyoe connectrors to run to amp which needs rca too i know its alot but hey youll get true refrence level sound for a small cheap upgrade only if you have big speakers for surround s front and center heeights can be small but same thing go with brands that can be trusted the amps that are made in usa on ebay have 16 channels good for future proofing and can run as low as 150 bucks plas a hefty price in sipping but the older stereo recievers from 70s are the way to go for stereo sound you can convert the hdmi audio to anolog with a magic device called a dac which is in cell phones and mp3 players which have built in mini amps even baby toys that make noise have a baby size chip amp in them lol but

i only recomend the cheaper recievers if you have small to meduim speakers for large or even massive towers center channel i recomend at least spending 880 bucks and i think most of the 250 dollar recievers now have no pre out for amp so do your research if you want to connect external amp via rca cables i think some 500 buck ones do but havent looked in a whie plus newer isnt always better ive seeen some flatscreens that look like a 480p soap oprea no matter what you do and theyre 4k mostly cheap ones but if you go with the right model it doesnt matter hisense is becoming a higher end brand than vizio lol pretty sad cuz vizio made box tvs and ivenever saw one in person but those ones i was talking about look worse than my 32 inch samsung from 2011 but it was 500 brand new what do you expect you get wht you pay for even they were worse than the old truflat tube tvs which i think have the best color acuracy unless your paying 500 or more for a 4k tv itll probably have very poor upscaling and horrible backlight thet doesnt have any dimming zones like the high end tvs and oled is great if you have the money the crt like blacks are amazing andthe only issue i have with mine is burn in but i can dill with it over the washed out soap opera affect which some tvs are stuck with!!! i meant 800 bucks for a reciever to drive big speakers cuz the can do 1000wpc or higher at 8 ohms but you reeally need a medium sized surrounds for it cuz the surrround chanels are always quiter unless you turn them up so for rap surrounds max center depends fronts half level sub depends on how its crossedover and level is set to for rock you usaullly can max out everthing and it wont distort or blow unless you dont have klipsh cuz mine ive seen people blow the tweeters on them cuz they were set way tooo low and it made the reciever work harder cuz you had to like turn it all the way up just to hear it and some recievers audto calibration sucks like onkyos new accueq its useless sets everything way off and the best one ive experienced is pioneers mcacc cal it is top notch sadly better than yamahas ypao only cuz you can custimize the eq and it has two eq to customize which is great for stuff that has no bass or treble and you feel the sound is too boring thats why i like klipsch theyre known for their fun sound plus their amazing for there price even there small speakers high end or lond all good would definatly reccomend them i saw a 50 dollar 2,1 klipsh pc speaker system that retails for 150 at walmart thats the best chrismas deal yet you could also hook pc speakers up to your tv just make sure their good ones and if it reallly is making a differnce in sound 50 dollars man for a speaker system that is 250 bucks back when i bought one my walmart mustve got price mixed up with their other ones that were klipsch they were portable bluetooth speakers but i swore it said 150 dollars for it so whoever paid 50 bucks got a steal reminds me of my first 50 dollar heme theater in a box back in 2004 it would rattle my window and sounded better than my mom and stepdads 150 dollar one it had a massive amp like a logitech z900 or whatever that was called thats another good one but there expenve but most there 2.1 and up speakers are great tooo and so is altec lansings vintage white pc speakers with sub from 90s to 2006

olus ive blown my ears from listing to alot of luod musci on big speakers and earphones that have a ton of bass plus the bass on my mp3 player and now i need a headphone amp when i use any portable device unless its an old ipod cuz those were super loud like off that simpsons i wonder how loud one would be with a headpone amp plugged into it at max volume with the eq set on rock bet it would blow a 600 ohm pair of headphones with the right music after a few seconds the higher the impedance the more power the headphones need its like the oposite for speakers no matter what kind they are unless the toy ones are like headhones and peizo buzzers cuz their so small a speaker usually requires more power at rms the lower the impedance and its bad to run speakers at max power cuz they usually blow u can usually go a little over as with anything and ittl still perform like day 1 but some cheaper stuff cant handle it or lower end i shoud say not all cheap or low end is bad though cuz that 50 dollar regent a product of lennex sound was a beast in a small sub box in desquise untill you looked at the back and saw that massive amp heatsync thats my 10 cents for getting the best out of your home theater and tv

Lol nothing sounds good like my old receiver so loud cant even think that's what i like non of this wireless crap

Of course, it's just that the manufacturers of soundbars need to sell them, so they advertise them as surround sound, and a lot of people believe it.

Pretty much. 😮‍💨