Whether you agree or disagree with all this. I personally prefer teachers like this that put thought, experience, and theory at the forefront of their lectures. Instead of telling people to regurgitate information from books. Tjis way you can form your own thoughts from a wider perspective

How weird is the realization of nihilism and the effect it has on body and mind. I was furloughed due to lockdown and had this realization. I went from a cocky personal trainer to a depressed anxious individual that can barely function. Can't stop thinking about the universe and everything. Went to a therapist who told me that people eventually emerge from this realization different, stronger for sure but different. Thanks life🙏 I don't remember seeing nihilism on the menu 😂

The Dude "He's a nihilist. Oh, that must be exhausting." The Big Lebowski

How does someone talk so fluently and cohesively for so long! An astounding pleasure to listen to, the students are privileged to have heard this first hand.

Do not pray for an easy life. Pray for the ability to face a difficult one.

As he says, find yourself in the middle, last I checked, those seeking liberty (freedom, responsibility, truth, and industriousness) straddle the middle, seeking neither too much control nor too much chaos. They find ways to shoulder the responsibly of life. Accept that suffering is a part of humanity. Take blame for your weakness/corruption and move foreword to improve your life and those around you. Today and next week, and next year.

This is actually life saving advice for me.

Life is about taking satisfying poops

We as humans are fortunate that videos like this are freely available. More of us need to educate ourselves to the best of our ability.

This man is putting the efforts to identify and determine the right world or place between the deep dark abyss of the nihilistic fate and a blind faith , which was comfortable one day and had strong defense mechanism against the chaos of being just human . People who lost their blind faith and ended up nihilistic and are eaten by the meaninglessness find it difficult to form a new value system or restore an old one. This man knows the pain. May Allah rewards you Dr Jordan Peterson . Thank you

Peterson is some kind of inverted Rick Sanchez

A true nihilist knows that there is no negative and positive, no good or bad, no right or wrong. Everything exist within the void. Nothing has a value outside of our mind.

Imagine a world where we all have a clear purpose and share our gifts with each other to better each other. This is what I want to create while I'm still here.

Nihilism is pointless.

i read this book and now im a nihilist.. i dont want to be.. but here we are.. and now i dont know what to do..

Nihilism almost ruined my entire life. I didn't even know this "ism" existed. Almost, till some help came along at the last moment.

I think this discussion should always lead to existentialism. I have incorporated some existentialist themes into my worldview. Which many will confuse with nihilism. Existentialism is mostly about conquering nihilism, and not falling into it's clutches. I'm hesitant to claim that there is a universal purpose to human life. And if there is one, it's will to power. This is one of the things I thought Nietzsche got right. Being an existentialist is all about creating your own meaning, values and purpose. It's anti-herd mentality in the most extreme sense. It acknowledges the fact that there is no universal purpose to life, but it also acknowledges that humans can't just believe in nothing, and to be a nihilist is weak. But, my break with the rest of existentialism is that I don't think most people are capable of being existentialists without falling into nihilism. And that I think there is a human nature. Many existentialist thinkers say there isn't, but I think this is unfounded. The herd mentality is very much a part of human nature, and only a select amount of people are capable of prying themselves out of it. These are typically the people who make up the elite, or become philosophers. I honestly don't think herd mentality is inherently a bad thing, nor do I think extreme individualism is inherently a good thing. Imagine if the entirety of civilization suddenly declared themselves existentialists, society would collapse into utter chaos. I can't even conceive of a society where everyone was a free-thinking individual. So this is why I'm not a full on existentialist. I think it fails to account for human nature, much like liberalism does as well. But the things I think existentialism gets right, is that humans are not rational beings, and while objective truths like the hard sciences are important, they will never be capable of fully understanding the human experience.

(hard) determinism --> nihilism --> cure = existentialism

I became a nihilist as i was experiencing my existential crisis and it was such a hard time for me.. I attempted suicide due to my detachment/depressive episodes and every day was a challenge to me rethinking my whole life .. But there is positive things from it.. Still working on embracing it but hearing from other ppl who have experience gives me hope to see the good in it

I turn 30 years old in a month and looking back on the course of my 20s I noticed how unhappy I have become. Things I used to like or were indifferent to I now have a strong disapproving opinion on. Even my basic day-to-day interactions with people often result in me thinking about lots of things. I get irate about making small mistakes in public like being asked to step back from something if I am getting too close, this is because I get mad at myself for not being aware enough and for it taking somebody else to spot something that I was too blind to notice. I really rip into myself afterwards because I feel like I am the only person in the world who makes that mistake. I have been trying for years to change my job but it feels like nothing much is out there that has better pay than my job, I always feel like 'what are the options?' or 'where do I go from here?' kind of thing. That's why I've been stuck in the same miserable job for the past 6 years. If I don't do something soon I feel like I am going to go out of my mind.

It is difficult to ignore the fact that we have to create values from our asses and believe them like crazy in order to keep moving. It is astonishingly frightening and withering, and this can be an obvious sign that something is fucked up here.

Exposure to your fears is the only cure. I had bad jobs because I had problems with calling. I decided I was anxious because of a lack of experience, and I got a job where I called 100% of the time and I did great.

I've been having existential despair/panic and its been giving me anxiety, I feel like Dr. Peterson is helping out 😁😁abstract thinking is fun and scary

My former friend is a nihilist. She is now on her 8th year of undergrad with a 2.1 GPA, doesn't try to excel at anything, constantly moves cities and realizes she hates them not even 5 months living there, gets stoned off her ass using various substances, and fucks anything that moves. Her other friends were the same way. She really was depressing.

Though I see no intrinsic meaning I know in the eyes of my wife, sisters, mother and father I represent meaning to them. This is in part sufficient for me to have 'meaning'

So insightful. One of the best by him that I've listened to. Thanks for this

I can actually feel my character aligning when I listen to Jordan Peterson... Not joking.

God Bless you Dr. Peterson. There should be a little of you in every human being.

I wonder how many students are completely lost??

Basically, don’t fight for people if they don’t need you to; teach them how to fight well.

I've never listened to a lecture by J. Peterson that wasn't moving and inspirational. He's helped me get through life the way a hot knife helps me get through cold butter.

To the incredible person that's seeing this, I wish you all the best in life❤ Don't over blame yourself, accept things and go forward. Don't let others define what “success” is for you. Get up, learn the skills needed and get after it, all the keys to a happy life is in your hands.

I’ve been lost in Nihilism since I was genuinely conscious. I understood I just couldn’t agree. As I do not believe there’s anything in the end I believe you should practice good morals or being a decent human in the meantime. My only goal is to make enough to be happy and consistent in life all while keeping it minimal. I don’t require much. And try to be the absolute best person I can be while I’m here. Don’t know if that sounds contradicting.

Wow how i would love to be that guy who walks in and sees Jordan Peterson lecturing the class.

I attended one of JP's Beyond Order tour events and during the talk I thought very hard about what question I needed to ask in order to start taking action towards fixing up my life and the person I would like to be. I had also booked the Meet & Greet that was planned afterwards so I could ask him personally. But as I thought harder and harder while I heard him speak about the right way of perceiving the world, suffering, meaning and responsibility etc. possible questions came up in my mind, but for every question almost immediately an answer came up. I realized I already had all the freaking answers from studying JPs teachings. And I could only came up with that conclusion when I was forced to think of a question that was really worth asking to someone I truly admired. There were no questions to ask anymore so I kept my mouth quiet.

When I became completely free of a believe in a god, I found myself in a new, unknown mental space, I then had to fill up this new space with content I wanted. It worked for me, no longer do I struggle or wrestle with belief in a god. I also have no issue entering a religious home, place of worship or engaging with religious people etc. I have also been able to accept the finality of death and also knowing that our species will cease to exist, because immortality for our species is not a right. It's not a given. We shall become extinct and then new evolved species shall appear.

Brilliant. Thank you for your process.

He says so much in 12 mins I have to watch a couple of times. His thinking is so far ahead and brilliant, well explained and perfectly tied together.

I somehow quite like Nihilism though. It gives me relief from anxiety and tells me that as life itself has no purpose or meanings, I can become anyone without worrying about wasting my life.

Brilliant and spot on!

A great master once said, "There are no isolated acts".

Life is not about having meaning, it's about finding your own ways to have meaning in life.

The way i view life is as a nihilist, to put it simply i do not believe life has a meaning and everything i say or do does not matter in the long run as 50 to 150 years after i die i will be forgotten, no one will remember my voice or my loves or my interests. Even after that the world will eventually end and after that our solar system will collapse and nothing will remain, thus there are no meaningful, tangible and everlasting consequences for our actions. Our emotions are simply chemicals running through our brains and it can be beneficial for our own sakes to ignore or transform them. I also believe that belief systems themselves take control away from individuals. There are many, many reasons people may believe a religion or vote for a party such as the area you were born and raised. I was born into a Christian family however if i was born in the middle east i would have been a muslim when i was growing up. Belief systems can change due to a multitude of factors such as new information or a challenge to your existing belief. Even my nihilism has come about from environmental factors and my personal experiences. The only thing i know for certain is that i will never know everything which is the case for everyone who ever lived or will live. Because no one can do this objectivity can never be truly achieved which means there will always be new information to challenge and discredit every belief system, meaning no beliefs have meaning to them, no truth. The best we can do, as humans is go with systems that have been shown to work better than others. If i get I'll i will go to a hospital and use modern medicine, i won't use the theories of galen or hippocrates as modern medicine has been proved to work better, however in the future there are likely to be people who think that we were idiots for believing modern medicine was the best choice when their healthcare is better. I've just started reading beyond good and evil so my opinions may change within the next few weeks but this is what i believe and think going into it

Jordan Peterson is the dad you never had

He just explained why I like Dolstoevsky and the Old Testament so much. That is interesting.

He fuckin’ nailed the stolen problem argument. That is the best he’s ever articulated that point

How people could just take this class in real time is beyond me

So should one just believe in there own belief system?, Being that the power in belief itself above all else is what actually makes things work for individuals.

I'm pretty much a nihilist and a cynic. I don't think there is purpose to life. I don't think anything we do or can rationally as objectively moral, but I do think the feelings we were given as humans such as empathy, compassion, cruelty, selfishness, etc is what defines morality of the day. That's the point though right, "I think." There has always been different laws, morals and just ways of doing things in general that hurt or benefited humans. That is always subject to change. Is there a universal morality? I say no. Should there be and should humans defend it to the death, yes. For the longest time humans have been inventing creative ways to punish and kill each other through torture for example. The main purpose was to maim, inflict suffering, and to make examples of people for the longest time. We also have the evolutionary side of trying to pass on our genes (accompanies our nurturing spirit for our blood but not anyone else in general). At the end of the day, I think the golden rule applies in terms of quality of life, because things like that can be measured. The common element is that we all want to live how we want to live, right or wrong, it's the closest discussion that can be made to how we as humans should organize.

I have been trapped by nihilism myself. Because of the solidity of its consistency and flawless nature, it seems to me impossible to break. Recently i have likened it to a painting that i cannot look away from, trying and failing to fault it. What led me to nihilism was this: 1) Human behaviour is encompassed by only two factors: Genetics, and Environment 2) you do not get to choose your genetics, you don't choose your environment either (example: country you were born in, parents, people you meet, which form your experiences). 3) this leads to free will being an illusion, smoke and mirrors. A hollow concept 4) this leads to moral nihilism, that all perceived evil and good people are simply victims of their genetics and experiences of which they had no free will, so morality does not really exist. Therefore there is no inherently "good" or "bad" actions. My degree is biochemistry did not help. It had the opposite of the "paley's watch" argument, for me all the elegant intricate biochemical pathways are cold, mechanical and determined. This furthered the consistency of truth for nihilism. These absolute truths to me means believing in any god concerning morality is incompatible,

I believe in Solipsism. I also believe in the belief in no meaning is also meaning (just different meaning). A defense mechanism is any meaning that defends ourself from negative emotions. Choosing to believe that nothing means anything gives comfort. Also, believing that nothing is valued outside of our own minds is also a comfort thing.

Nihilism is the way out. The structure needs to be created with open eyes and cold facts, structures based on fictions like God or race or nations, structures created by forcing people to pretend to believe ridiculous drivel are always going to collapse. Nihilism acknowledges that there's no inherent meaning or purpose, but that allows the creation of meaning and purpose for it's own sake.

0:32 OMFG I'm here guys I'm exactly at this point right now! BANG I'm in chaos.. So glad someone is giving the monster a name, thought I was going crazy.

6:19 "I'll protect you at the cost of your ability to protect yourself. NO. WRONG" Every over protective person can relate

Everything under the sun is vanity, a generation comes and a generation goes and all are striving after the wind.

The solution to the problem of tragedy and malevolence is the WILLINGNESS to face them

He. Just. Cant. Stop. He could philosophize the entire world.

Wow. I’ve watched a lot of his videos mainly because I want to understand the phenomena of his popularity and to hopefully learn something despite me disagreeing with him on a lot of fundament principles. But I’m saving this one, and I think he needs to return to this. Dare I say it, it smacks of the moderate and majority lefts if we want to categorise that way.

This is incredibly awesome

There is no way out, its like when you learn Santa isn't real.

i dont know why people hate him lol hes tellin like it is, its a shame he got cut off near the end. He was really starting to make a good point, does anyone know if there is a continuation of this same chat?

where can I watch the rest?

Nihilism: We're cursed that we evolved way too much to realize everything is pointless. The Right, Natural, Normal and Healthy Thinking: We received a gift of life to constantly improve different areas in our lives and create appropriate meaningful relationships.

This is what you get by having a strongly normative concept of enlightenment. Jordan Peterson adapts it in a conservative way. People pointing out that nihilism is pointless, or trying to explain what a nihilist thinks like haven't understood this world. Obviously it is not nihilistic to write something in the comment section, to make that clear. Jordan Peterson tries to deduct values from something that has happened by chance: the human evolution, one does not have to believe in determinism to realize that, what he is attempting is just a way to point out the complexity of human coexisting and the so called human nature to create a coherent idea of values, which is however maybe coherent but never true in an analytical way. In other words: there can not be any empirical normative truth. This being pointless has been mentioned, BUT the goal has to be, to embrace some parts of, what we as a weird creature in this universe have been given. Which is first and foremost a) the feeling of freedom of thought, b) the ability of empathy and c) most importantly the desire to live, which we cannot counteract.

I've always thought of Nihilism as the 'red pill' of perspectives, and it was honestly relieving. Its just nice to know this doesnt matter. It doesn't HAVE to matter. Can you imagine the sheer pressure and anxiety it would be for every single moment to matter and be important? We aren't important, even religion supports this if thats your thing. Overcoming how unimportant you are is a key concept to being truly satisfied with life imo.

Beautiful words

I'm in constant battle with 'what's the point?'.

9:19 "Could we make the world a place where no one is suffering more than necessary..." Yep just kill everyone 9:22 "...and still allow the world to exist" Oh shit he's onto me

7:57 oh, hey preofessor peterson. Don't mind me, just gonna go sit down now. XD

Well said.

What if you are in a society where they dont allow you to confront the bully? If they control the money, they can circumvent the charter of rights, they control the information, they control your ability to unite how can you face or stand up to a force that is far more powerful than you could ever hope to be?

I was on a site which I thought I would get an answer to the meaning of life, Nihilism etc and then I saw an option to see Jordan Peterson and immediately opted for his site because I knew I would get "the answer" and, naturally, I got what I wanted, "the answer"

My solution was to pause for a second then say fuck it who cares, life's to short to worry about shit, whatever will be will be, it is what it is... And 5 minutes later Ive generally forgotten what I was worried about. The system works 😋

This man is genius.

Ending the belief systems is proper!

You know i been listening to jordan for a while now,. Must be a burden to have all this information. I think I just enjoy listening to him because its fine art.

There are only two choices: Nihilism, or Delusion

Order is a tool to reach goals. Chaos is a tool to experience the new. I choose to use them like tools.

What about a relativity as a supplement from an externally imposed belief, which is the opposite of 'Ritualism' as a social deviance: with the relativity, or the pursuit of one representing an actual adaptation beyond the social camouflage of a rigid belief?

I enjoyed the passion, but I found myself thinking "why is this man screaming at me" 😂

I don’t know why nihilism has such a stigma. Nihilists aren't necessarily lazy, amoralist, hopeless, or anything like that. A lot of us just follow our hearts and remind ourselves how lucky we all are to be alive. Enjoying life for life’s sake.

I do think it's possible to foster strength in safe spaces, in fact I think it's the best way, at least for me, to do so.

This is on point.

Peterson is a smart guy, don’t get me wrong. But this philosophy he seems to promote does fall victim to infinite regression. If life’s purpose is to constantly overcome your struggles, you can never reach that place of eudaemonia, as problems will cyclicly emerge as you reach the next level to overcome. He seems to somewhat address it, but never recommends a benchmark of satisfaction. This is why I’ve adopted a stance that there is little need to overcome anything outside of your basic needs as a human. If you know how to get your food, water and shelter while suffering minimal bondage, the rest is confetti. Progression is after all a subjective term.

Kurzgesagt has described the more positive side of Nihilism pretty well: "Since nothing matters, you're free to assign value to whatever you want. So you don't have to feel like you've wasted your life playing video games and reading comic books. It made you happy. So it mattered. And if it mattered to you, you mattered too."

11:00+ wow hes kind of *terrifyingly brilliant* here (specifically not everything hes done just here) because hes mapping out the incredible lives and work on behalf of others time space nature cosmology of so many no ones even heard of and thats many many of us

Anybody knows what lecture was that or have a link to the full lecture?

The Oedipus situation which he alludes to around 6 mins shows great similarities to the old Chinese proverb of give a man a fish you can feed him for a day teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime!

There is a fundamental balance between nihilism and self-reflection

The only thing that makes humans different than animals is the obsession to be unique or special. You aren't, I am not, no human is.

When we say nothing matters it means that doing something is as meaningless as doing nothing since doing nothing is also an action This is why i think you can't be a nihilist in action but can believe in nihilism from a universal perspective like me

Merely the fact that the universe will go on whether you are alive or not should be pretty common sense that it all doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things as to what you do as long as you are productive and not hurting others. Nihilism is not about being "lazy" or being "depressed and hopeless" all of the time. It's embracing the idea that there is no objective meaning in this world or any kind of higher purpose given the scientific evidence that we have available to us. Even if there were some "higher purpose" or a "god," you would be living your life as a pawn and just blame everything that happens to you based on fate on not owning up to any of your decisions, which is psychologically unhealthy. Also, religion is often times used as a crutch for people who don't understand science or are so disillusioned and can't accept the fact that there is nothing after your death, that they cling on some religion to make themselves feel better and not accept the possibility that there might be nothing after death. Religion is a coping mechanism essentially and I guess one could say it's also a way for someone to connect with their peers by forming groups, but in the grand scheme of things, it's a way of rejecting reality and not looking at things rationally in order to cope with life. Also, saying that nihilism makes people "lazy," that cannot be further from the truth because nihilism doesn't say you should use it as an excuse to not do anything. It simply allows you to not worry about things that shouldn't be worried about in the first place. Oh and another thing, how is he going to tell someone else that a philosophy that they hold is making them unhappy? As if he fucking knows them? Please, that Peterson guy is preaching his own hidden agenda on to others in order to make everyone else believe the same way that he does. Everyone is different and if what they think is making them happy then it's making them happy. This is a philosophy, not a science, he needs to stop treating it like it's objective because it's as relative and subjective as it gets.

Nihilism is just a more sofisticated way to say Yolo with a bit freedom and other stuff, just because there is no meaning to anything you can say there is no reason to live and be happy but also there is no reason to die and be sad, do what you fell to do, on a universe where nothing matters neither logic does, you can do what you want, unjustified or stupid that is, you can feel free to let out your emotions , no matter how irrational those can be. You can do whatever you want, idk what goes on some people that think this is the way to chaos and depression, but what's better than the idea that nothing you do matters,you can take it easy.

Seeking transcendence is clearly ingrained deeply within human beings. That is transcendence away from one's self, in connecting with or integrating greater symbolism beyond one's ego. It can also be one's personal connection to the natural world, to a group/tribe, within a religious/psycho-spiritual narrative etc. Some struggle to find what we identify socio-culturally as 'healthy' transcendence- that is addiction to drugs, alcohol, sex, gambling. These palpable phenomena distinguish us from animals and other more basic organisms. The following are some questions raised from the above (possible/likely) universal assumptions- why do we seek transcendence/why is the self not enough? Do we seek transcendence as a means to connect to the source - if so what is the source - God? Why do we crave this extension of ourselves so much if the root of all existence is not transcendent itself? Conversely, but similarly, some may argue that while transcendence is reflected through cosmology and the rest of the universe- this does not mean it is rooted in ultimate meaning (telos) and therefore the First Cause hypothesis is not required, and metaphysical and moral relativism can be considered. However, does that also undo the First Mover hypothesis- surely existence cannot be eternal as this posits an absurdity? Why are we so dissatisfied when we just sit with ourselves- however imaginative or constructive our minds are? Does transcendence point to the objective reality of a lived reality for the human consciousness beyond death? Or perhaps it just points to the hopeful, optimistic longing for the continuation of the self, ego and the 'soul'- for some this may be reduced to just consciousness- but that essence of what makes me, me, and not you, or him/her? How can one understand transcendence through raw biology and reproduction- what is the connection with dopamine and the seeking of the other, of the expanse, of 'everything else'? Is transcendence morally neutral? i.e. Stalin and Hitler arguably found transcendence in war, genocide and totalitarianism. Rousseau said that 'man is free yet everywhere he is in chains'- what chains was Rousseau referring to? Our existence can be articulated as slavish but why is it so? Other Western philosophers showed not just with the logical conclusions of their philosophy but also with their own psycho-spiritual/mental decline (Nietszche, Schopenhauer, Kafka etc) that going inwards into the mind and consciousness rather than outwards is a recipe for disaster in the form of nihilism, or of being 'existentially locked in', or of suicide. Ultimately, it appears palpable that the study of anthropological meaning, of history, of war, of culture, of psychedelics etc can all be rooted in the human being's necessity to escape the confines of the inner self and reach out into the world and grasp on to something within the varying abundance of opportunity- so then the concluding question is- what is the most beneficial, or most worthy thing (object/concept/narrative/being/life project/activity) for us to grasp on to?

I escaped Nihilism by discovering and submitting to Jesus Christ, the Son of God. He is the Truth and the Light that we all search for! As a nihilist I would always think about the universe and how insignificant I am as a human being, and the randomness of it all. But by reading the gospels, I still left as a nihilist. That’s when it got bad when even the alleged word of God couldn’t move my heart and sway my mind. God couldn’t fit in my worldview, there wasn’t any space for a creator. Years passed, and loved ones died, goals were met, but I was still empty. But, I decided to try to believe, and started to pray. I felt fake, but still I tried. I read the gospels, and the words began to make since, but not in my worldview but in a different one that I was separated from. The seeds of the Kingdom of Heaven grew, and I began to believe and know, that Jesus is the Lord of Lords, and King of Kings. Just like the parable of the farmer sowing his seed, the word of God grows in you and you begin to see. Now I know a lot of this sounds like Mumbo Jumbo to most people, I’m self aware. But Jesus tells us the Word works in this way because “He who has ears to hear, let him hear." When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. Jesus replied “I do this so they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven,” the truth grows in you when you follow Christ. As a nihilist I was trying to make God fit in how I saw the world and I felt, I had no room for him. However after becoming born again, I realize that I need to fit Gods plan, and if I don’t trust in the word and repent of my sins, then he will reject me like I’ve rejected him all my life. But Jesus is mercy, and is God, which is the truth that we are all searching for.

My belief system is thus, trust in myself and faith in those I care for. I have a congregation of 1 😋 haha

Didn't help in the end, I'm responsible for the terrible things that happened, sure but for most it's too late to do anything about it, and regret is useless, so what about my actual problems that are also my fault, well I lack the motivation to deal with it, simply because all I see around is fucking chaos, I tried my best to believe in something higher, in god, in the logos and even if I like the ideas, the whole surnatural part that there's gonna be a better world to be in after dealing with this awful one seems fictional and I can't convince myself of that. Nihilism sticks on my ass and my self awareness of it isn't sufficient to end it and idk why.

oh, yes, creativity. can't beat that. check out man with all his creativity and look at the world that you are living in today.

Anybody knows the link to the whole lecture?

My thoughts as a optimistic nihilist. There is some Leeway in being one, and that there will always be responsibility’s in your life that you cannot say “fuck it” to but, there’s is tragedy’s that are out of control to an extent that you have to learn to say “fuck it” to. And you aren’t really on earth to live a meaningless life, but rather to find your own happiness learn that being contempt, happy, under control of your actions and thoughts while understanding that you and everyone else on the planet doesn’t know anything is better to me then following a endless possibility of religions and joining the herd. I feel as though if the whole world came across a wave of optimistic nihilism it would put life’s back on track to a more unified goal to save humanity because in the end we are here together to figure out our purpose and none of know what will happen after death or even after 100 years beyond your life so why waste it just don’t worry abt it and find your happiness while, The rest of the world fights in controversy you are at peace knowing that the end is the same and it’s a shame that most people will never realize how much time as a species we wasted not all having a end goal for our planet regardless on how we got here. Idk I just started getting into nihilistic beliefs about a few days ago so still a lot I’m trying to figure out myself