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If you've read the several comments as to why Ole Miss over the 3 year criteria should be #4 on your list, will you clearly explain why you refute those points? The most egregious problem is with OU, picked by others at or near the bottom half of the SEC.

I’m with you on that statement.

Welcome to the SEC buddy, see ya in CoMo

A great coach is priceless

@@samthomas3383seriously! OU has the toughest schedule of the 16.

​@@cconnell7009compared to Texas they got the short stick. Someone definitely wanted to guarantee a smooth start for Texas 🙄who's surprised. But Florida and USC have a far worse schedule

TN never had 3 losing season in a row

@@greenwave819 Yes we did, final 2 Dooley years were 5-7 and Butch's first year was 5-7

What’s crazy is since 2017 both have only beaten 9 ranked teams lol. They are much closer than people realize like miss state has beat more ranked teams in the same time frame just for context.

@@greggalton3331 the difference is we beat all of ours from 2021-pres. Florida has fell off in the same timeframe

@@greggalton3331 the only difference (and it's a big difference) is that Florida absolutely owns Tennessee

Need to change the Tom Petty song to Freefallin'.

Mighty?

Mighty?😂

@@wesleyadams5433 JD Rett's "we trawlin" is better. Check it out. I highly recommend it.

@@angelalv3578They were definitely the standard at one point.

As a Tennessee fan I went through the same thing my whole childhood. Everyone said Tennessee would never get out of our hole but we did. The SEC is just too loaded everyone is going to have ups and downs but you'll eventually come back (sadly)😂

Decent offensive line? They had multiple 5 and high 4 stars they’ve signed over the last 4 years.

"finally got a football coach" How many times have we heard this the past decade..or longer?😂😂

​@zaddy2078 can anyone in the class enlighten Zaddy here about why we don't have healthy QBs? Jonathan, I saw your hand. 'is it because they have had horrible Oline play?' Jonathan, you're a genius and I love you.

you probably thought the same thing when you hired Fisher. Like the exact same thing. Elko is very mid.

Everyone in the SEC west is the same. A&M (Fisher) never had any player development and it showed. I get it. @@TheBryceRoberts4

Maybe the easiest schedule in the SEC.

making excuses already? Let's keep moving the goal posts.

​@@jahnvantuttlesma8215 Texas and Ole Miss

Compare it side by side with OU’s and it’s funny. OU: 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10, and 11 Texas: 1, 5, 8, 12, 13, 14, 15, and 16 Probably the toughest conference schedule and the easiest conference schedule. I see Texas having a realistic shot at an SEC conference championship berth.

Yeah Michigan in offseason makes it way different so go suck it

i would flip lsu and ole miss tbh...

OU has a great program. I'm glad they joined the SEC.

@@stephenwainwright5792 Thanks man. I'm super excited for this. When August rolls around it'll be goodebump season. SEC!

Sooner here as well. With that schedule, I think 5 is real generous. Provided they play to top potential, they can be great, but I figured 8-9 as well. There was mucho inconsistency late in the season. And effects of transfer portal/NIL still have me wondering

Gonna be a cookout kinda season. Just bangers all season

Oh yeah I can’t wait! Go Dawgs!

Florida's is nastier. Uga Texas LSU Ole Miss then FSU... In a row

@maxgator Florida has the nastiest schedule in the nation either way.

If Georgia goes undefeated this year, you have to give them the crown. There would be no debate.

Why? No SEC fan thinks Vandy is anywhere close to those programs.

@@doc8013Sadly, there really is, and many are quite vocal about it.

@@jammerlr7780 lol you guys sound you got trolled. I promise you that no real SEC fan has ever seriously said that Vandy is or ever has been a better program than OU or Texas. Never ever.

​@@doc8013Vandy was a joke. We said Kentucky and Mississippi State

Josh is actually unbiased so he doesn’t penalize Auburn just for being Auburn.

`Josh isn't going to do that. Notice how he's not mentioning that none of the Arizona, Alabama or Washington transfers went to Michigan due to the cheating? Also he's not mentioning that no one is taking Michigan players due to Harbaugh leaving.

BIG - What? JK... lol

Who's expectations were higher during those 3 years?

texas losing a lot of players

UGA is absolutely LOADED! Branson Robinson will be healthy, College Football is put on notice.

Texas is still going find out how hard it is in SEC what he didn't say Texas struggled in 4 big 12 games that took all they had to win . If those four opponents would've been SEC I don't think they would had won like they did .

You’re an imposter, no Bamatard would ever admit to being the 4th best team in the conference!

OG of the Vols I've been impressed by Josh Huepel from day 1 He is the real deal and a good person That nice guy want finsh last

You're probably relieved your not lower tbh

You should be because Pate loves the Aggies and treats them better than they deserve. Probably because 1) Aggie fans love anyone who says nice things about them 2) there are a lot of Aggies, and 3) Academy is a big Aggie sponsor.

I don’t know Dan Mullens should too. He got them to the sec chapionship

most of them are fat. Shane Beamer is one of the very few who actually works out in the team facilities all the time...and you can tell.

@boblaymon5450 It's because he's become an aggy mouthpiece this past season and would have to rank them a couple spots lower if where the teams are trending is taken into account. He knows who butters his bread and won't do anything to upset that balance. Notice how his assessment of Texas was begrudging (listing every single team we lost to the past 3 years that he feels aren't good enough to beat Texas) in spite of ranking the Horns third? Must keep the aggy fanbase somewhat sated while at the same time keeping it real (for the most part) with the rankings😂

Or maybe he thought that UTx fans would complain about not being on par with bama and UGA so he wanted to get ahead of it.

Cap 🧢

WHO LET THE DAWGS OUT. GO DAWGS GO.

Does that hurt your narrative that everyone team not in the SEC sucks?

Texas is and should be 3. Oklahoma tho, no way they are 5

Do you really think UF has recruited talent that is even close to what Georgia has recruited ? Until they get even close to the talent level that Georgia recruits Florida is going to have a hard time. (Just saying)

What's talent if you don't have an elite coaching staff to develop them.

Are you trying to say Georgia doesn't develop players. Tell me you know nothing about football without telling me you know nothing about football

Talent hasn't turned into wins in Gainesville, and as a UGA fan, I'm ecstatic about that! HBTFD!

DeBoer is a very good coach. That was a great hire for Bama.

RTR

UGA by 50 in TuscaLoser

When Bama starts winning 8 games a year instead of 13, you’ll have to let me know which team you’re gonna bandwagon over to.

Bama haters will be happy when Alabama loses 3 games every year.

They will be lucky to win 4 games.

He has UT @ 3.

Texas is #3 wym

Aggie was 8-4 in 2021, 5-7 in 2022, and 7-6 in 2023. How do you get their record wrong? And their recruiting is 2022 #1 (and MANY in that class have left), 2023 #15, 2024 #19. That isn't that amazing. Texas recruiting is 2022 #5, 2023 #3, 2024 #6. How is that A&M recruiting just as well? Your data is just plain wrong. A&M at #8 program in this ranking is generous.

What has TN or Ole Miss done in the last 20 years? OU is consistently a 10 win team other than their 2022 season.

Pates criteria is a three year snapshot- so the last 20 years don't matter. Only the last three. Over these last three years both Ole Miss and TN have shown massive improvement to becoming heavyweights in CFB. I think Oklahoma still has the larger football brand and recruit appeal, but TN and Ole Miss are coming close and I believe their performances have been more impressive. OU got the benefit of a weaker conference, but has an about equal W/L(and the only sub .500 season record of these teams). OU I think has more questions to answer and work to do after Lincoln Riley left- that destabilizes a program. As far as resources, I believe the order goes TN>OU>Ole Miss but all three can flex their financial muscles if need be. Also, for Oklahoma's recent success- their most recent Natty is only two more years more recent than UT's most recent lol.

​@@Bam_Bam_Bam_BamOle Miss just had back to back years where they won 10 games, and they did it in the SEC. Only teams they lost to last year were the two juggernauts at the front of the line.

Has nothing to do with the future, nick sabe isn't here to save you anymore.

Cry

@@frederickgraves1340 your gonna know all about that in the next coming seasons as y’all enter poverty city.

@@willholmes8295 this is a take of a 9 year old mor on..

Why? And make sure tell me who belongs ahead of them using equal criteria. - JP

@@LateKickwithJoshPate First, big fan of the program. Watch every show, liked, subscribed and got my family and friends to like and subscribe. My evidence. Two of your four criteria are in my opinion subjective, "Resource pool" and "program stability". If resources were so important, the NY Mets would be winning and Texas would be the dominant team in CFB. Neither are true. As far as program stability, each team I've listed above Texas has had their head coach for at least two years, and unless scandal or complete disaster occur, those coaches will likely be there another two years. It's subjective because there's no metric to measure "stability" other than winning. So I included 3 pieces of evidence for each team. Win-loss record, average 3 year recruiting, average portal class. 1. Georgia (42-2, 3 and N/A) 2. Bama (36-6, 1.3 and N/A) 3. Ole Miss (29-10, 22.3 and 2) 4. Tenn (27-12, 16.3 and 41.5) 5. OU (27-12, 7.6 and 6) 6. LSU (26-14, 7 and 4) 7. Texas (25-14, 7.6 and 50.5) It must be taken into consideration that OU and Texas have played full Big 12 schedules whiles these other schools have played full SEC schedules. In 2023 Texas played 5 conference games where their opponents defense ranked below 100th, while the SEC schools played 1 or 2 (one being LSU who had a Heisman QB and the other Vandy). So Texas over a 3 year production stand point barley breaks into the top 8 and has had a far more forgiving schedule than the other teams who have had to play an eventual national champion at least once each season. - I would love to add that God has given you an incredible gift and you use it so well. God bless 🙏🏽

@@LateKickwithJoshPate 👀👀👀

From 2012 to 2023, Arkansas has the same number of SEC wins as Vandy if u throw out 2020 COVID year. That said, I expect 16-0 in 2024! 🐗 woo pig sooieee!

@@Tommy-2not with Pittman as head coach.

You didn't watch the full video. Josh based his tiers on the last few years not just last year and projections going forward. So based on that, Missouri is not tier 2.

@@ChrisP348 I did watch the entire video. And I disagree with how he presents his three year criteria. Mizzou is trending upwards. And Texas A&M is definitely not a better program than Mizzou. Now matter which criteria you use.

@wolfhound45 Same for me. aggy and Mizzou swap spots, and OU and Ole Miss as well. I think that's likely more accurate than Josh's list tbh. Everything else looks pretty spot on...except Bama is a huge wildcard this coming season. Having said that I'd have a hard time ranking them any lower than they are until seeing them play an actual game against an opponent with a pulse.

Missouri will come back to reality how crappy of a program they are.

Missouri needs more than 1 good year in order to make a leap in these type of rankings.

He says why. Auburn is a wildcard. They can be a 6 win team next year, but they also could be in the playoffs. Florida is trending towards a bowl game at best.

TN has to put more than 1 season together of beating good competition which they didn’t do last year.. They lost 4 games not everyone else’s fault UT fans are mor ons..

Not a single person ever said Texas and OU will be the new Vandy. - JP

@@LateKickwithJoshPate maybe you miss took me, I never said you said that. I’m talking about all the thousands of other comments I’ve read on TikTok and UKposts the past few years!

Had a guy argue with me this exact point on Twitter. Like bro, I know you can't point to where Oklahoma is on the map but that doesn't mean we are going to be bottom feeders in the SEC. OU has been a big daddy in college football for nearly 100 years, with very few real down years lol

@@LateKickwithJoshPateYea, there has been. You have just been fortunate enough to have missed it.

Bama is not losing to UT & A&M 😅😅

@@alexmangrum90 sir… 2022 bama lost to LSU and Tennessee… 2021 Bama lost to Texas A&M and UGA… what do you mean they’re not losing to UT and TAMU 😂😂😂 You know who didn’t lose to UT, TAMU, or LSU? I’ll give you a hint… Pate gave them #1 🤭

@@consciousm1nd That's cute but #1 has been dominated by BAMA since early 2000's 😆

@@alexmangrum90 that’s cute this was a 3 year analysis. Just say you didn’t watch the video. You also had daddy Saban since the early 2000’s… is he still coaching?

Unless the cheating brings out the lack of institutional control gavel.

@@Steeledawg That is one of the dumbest things I've read in a while. Every single school is doing exactly the same thing the NCAA just accused UT of doing, which oddly enough, even the NCAA itself doesn't prohibit schools from doing. It's a paper tiger accusation and you're a moron

@@Steeledawg If the NCAA thinks they can drop a hammer for what literally every program is and WAS doing, this will be the death of them.

​@Steeledawg cheating how? Stop trolling lol

@@Steeledawg Aw... you must have had my original comment reported. Wussy - W + P

Vols having one decent season doesn't make them a better PROGRAM than LSU. Beating the LSU team that Coach O left in a shambles (with 39 players and 5 wins) is not as special as Vols fans think it is. LSU is trending up. Vols, meh. Since 2000, LSU has 3 national championships. Vols: zero. Last year's final rank: LSU 12, TN 17. Josh got it right.

Why would you put Texas behind Bama?

"Texas 3rd and everyone else way behind". Why would you say that? OU has dominated Texas the last few years, except two years ago when OU had no QB due to injuries. OU beat Texas last year, won the Big 12 14 times while Texas only won 4 times. Way behind? LOL

@@atxlonghorns9865because the coach who has beat Sark back to back years is now at Bama with better overall talent than he had at Washington. Could very much change in due time though, Texas is a sleeping giant.

@@atxlonghorns9865 why wouldn’t I??

Texas has had one very good year but they have potential. I wouldn't say they are way better than LSU. I think Josh's rankings are about right.

Pistol Pete will get his first shot

Typical Vol fans blaming refs for an L. Ole Miss has been a better program than TN over the last 3 years. That is not debatable.

​@@jakehowicz7386 Absolutely, and they DID beat both TN and LSU (with Heisman QB). TN homers always butt-hurt about Kiffin.😅

Still couldn't beat georgia.