Update since I recorded I also got Keychron Orange Opticals, and these do not exhibit the same issue. Also in this time, the RGB LED for my F9 key has gone kaput.

Further update: I've ordered a new set of Brown switches, we'll try them out and see if I can tell the difference.

@@blaiserienzo3647 Did you order a new set of brown optical? Why? to fix de F9 key? Sorry for my question, I am waiting for my K3 with brown optical to arrive and I want to be prepared. I will definitely do this workaround to fix the sensitivity. Your video was very helpful

@@fbb5599 I did order a new set of Brown Optical, I want to see if there is any real difference between the V1 switch with this modification, and the "new" switch. Unfortunately the F9 LED is dead, I'd have to desolder it and install a new one.

@@blaiserienzo3647 Hello Blaise, thank you for sharing this helpful information. And we would be grateful if you could share the difference between the previous version of the switch and the new one you will get.

Glad to hear!

So how it with red?

It took 2 hours. Perfect!

Ok, i just did the mod on the space bar. Looking at the spring/plunger design, the spring is putting pressure on the plunger downward. So the return of the plunger back into the up position is going against the spring. Removing the spring, the same friction that returns it to the upward position is applied...since the spring always wants to push it down. In other words, the spring has no function in returning the plunger back to the upwards position. In fact, b/c the spring works in pushing it downwards...i would say by removing it, it's putting less wear & tear on the return mechanism (or friction as you call it).

I've seen a picture of the blue switches disassembled, and while they don't use the same exact design as the browns, they do also use a spring that pushes the plunger Down. From what I can tell, removing the spring on those wouldn't work, they wouldn't get the benefit of friction holding the plunger up.

Looks like te blue switches don't suffer the same flaw. Can't say I like the sound of them, but maybe they'll grow on me. It's not like I have a lot of options with 2 out of 3 ordered having the same issue.

It may be, but with the way the plunger is designed, you'd have to cut either the end that holds the spring in, or the end that holds it to the switch. From what I gather though, users who got the 'new' brown switches are seeing much better results, even though it is not obvious what was changed.

they are, but what the springs are there for is to push it down, so as you touch the top of the switch the spring makes it so that the pin pushes away from the switch, going down sooner than it should and as he said, it would be better if the spring was placed in some way to create resistance so the key would need to push the spring down for it to activate, rather than having the spring push away from the key so it activates earlier

How much newer? They only just got the preorders out the door.

I've received mine mid last week, and it was shipped about 1 and a half week before that I think

@@blaiserienzo3647 I received mine mid last week as well (shipped on 9th Feb.) Out of all the optical browns only 3 were facing the issue, and that was with me really trying to "trick/test" the trigger when pressing down enough to meet the actuation point but before getting the tactile bump. I opened 2 switches (a faulty and a normal one) but didn't really find any differences between them. In my case the brown were almost perfectly useable (although I have since switched to orange switches to test them out).

I ordered one month and i got brown switch with Orange plate it looks problem still occurs.

The one in this video is the older version. I got a newer version and they appear to have resolved the issue.

Not quite bottoming out, it activates just at or slightly after you feel the click, so perhaps at 50% of travel? This mod does not mean you now have to smash the keys down to get them to work, they register at what feels like a very natural position to me. In terms of feel, it is actually very similar to the keyboard on my Surface Book now, albeit with more travel

Yes still good, it is one of my favorite keyboards. The V2 is even better, but the differences are small if you already have the V1.

@@blaiserienzo3647 did v2 brown optical is still having same issue? I already ordered this and on shipping now....shame I found this issue after my order....

@@AlexSeadanya I found that the V2 brown completely solved this problem.

@@blaiserienzo3647 I hope like that, thanks anyway for your reply...

@@blaiserienzo3647 I got it yesterday and yes Im glad no issue like this, but bad bluetooth performance...

does the v2 still have the same issue? should i just go for the gateron mechanical?

You need to put them back together properly with the brown switches. There's a video tutorial on lubing brown switches somewhere. Just follow that and your tactile feel will be there

Had the same experience. The smaller spring leg has to be on the right of the switch leg. You can see this if you look closely at any switch on the board while actuating it without the keycap.

Yep I'm wondering as well, this workaround has a limited life expectancy and once the rubber no longer grips its back to super sensitive. From the little bit I've seen in the Keychron Facebook group, the new version of the switch works better, but I haven't seen good pictures of what exactly is different.

@@blaiserienzo3647 Well, at least this is hot swappable if they recognize it and make a new Brown V3 switch. But that is only if they recognize the issue, in their blog about this they sound very defensive and just made a clone of your video but without any mention of what the spring does. (I say V3 because the first version was similar to the red switch but with a bump in the slider, the V2 has a bump in an extra spring, similar to blue switches) would it be better for people that want browns to just get the non swappable gaterons? Or wait for a V3?

@@XxM1G3xX My gut instinct would be to with the Gaterons if you want it anytime soon. Keychron has moved onto pre-orders for the k12 so who knows how long before there is a K3 revision. Failing LEDs and weak frame are also downsides to the K3.

From what I understand, this is specific to Keychron's own optical switches, particularly the browns. Since I first made this video, I have gotten the Keychron Orange Opticals and I have not experienced this issue with them.