KILLER-GRANNY-SUSPECT BLOODY AMBUSH 2 KANSAS MOMS; TASERS, BURNERS, BULLDOZER

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Nancy Grace

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A police affidavit says Tiffany Adams allegedly gave statements indicating she was responsible for the deaths of Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelley.
Investigators now say they believe Butler and Jillian Kelley were lured to the location, arriving around 9:40 a.m. Besides the pools of blood, officers found Butler’s glasses on the ground near a broken hammer. Police say they believe the women were forced into another vehicle.
Much information has been released in the probable cause affidavit, but not the women's cause of death. The bodies were found in a cattle pasture, leased by Tad Bert Cullum, the boyfriend of grandmother Tiffany Adams.
The location was narrowed down by cellphone data from three burner phones purchased by Adams. The phones first pinged at the location of Butler's abandoned car, the data then led police to the pasture property. Obvious signs of digging were discovered. A hole had been dug and filled back in. Inside the hole were the bodies of the missing women.
The motive, according to investigators, is custody of Butler’s two children: a custody battle has gone on for more than five years. Father Wrangler Rickman, Tiffany Adam’s son, had custody of the children, but Rickman was confirmed to be in a rehabilitation facility in Oklahoma City.
Veronica Butler’s custody arrangement allowed her supervised visitation with her children every Saturday. And reportedly, according to Butler’s attorney, she was likely to be granted unsupervised visitation during an upcoming hearing.
The affidavit states that “Adams vehemently opposed this and went to great lengths to plan and purchase items used in Butler and Kelley’s murders,” It continues... “Adams, Cullum, Cole and Cora were willing to kidnap and murder two victims to limit visitation for Butler.”
Court documents allege that Adams and the other suspects tried to killer Butler once before in February. Adams, her boyfriend, and the other couple drove to Butler’s home near Hugoton, Kansas, intending to kill her. A witness told investigators that the planned was to throw an anvil through Butler’s windshield while she was driving. They reasoned that it would look like an accident, but Butler did not leave her home.
As state investigators pulled information from Adams’ phone, it showed web searches for “taser pain level, gun shops, prepaid cellular phones, and how to get someone out of their house." That’s also according to the probable cause documents.
Adams reportedly purchased five stun guns before the women’s disappearances, according to the documents. She bought three prepaid, unregistered burner phones from a Walmart near her. All the prepaid burners stopped transmitting the mornings the women went missing.
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@maridambrosio523
@maridambrosio523 15 днів тому
This is Evil. Pure Evil
@ChelseaBrown-fz1mj
@ChelseaBrown-fz1mj 15 днів тому
Absolutely horrible. Extremely sad case.
@user-fu3fd3bf1x
@user-fu3fd3bf1x 14 днів тому
The saddest part of this whole ordeal is that these children will never ever get over this. It’ll play over and over in their mind their whole lives that grandmother truly loved her grandchildren. She would’ve never provided that for them.
@ChelseaBrown-fz1mj
@ChelseaBrown-fz1mj 14 днів тому
@@user-fu3fd3bf1x Absolutely agree with you. As a former assistant teacher for preschoolers my heart hurts for these 6 children.
@deltabluesdavidraye
@deltabluesdavidraye 13 днів тому
Magats
@jessiefrye3045
@jessiefrye3045 15 днів тому
I'm a Grandmother. I can't even fathom the thought of hurting my grandbabies Mother. No child deserves to grow up without their Mother!!!
@decmagnet2072
@decmagnet2072 15 днів тому
It is unbelievable to me! Things like that don’t even come into my mind! It totally shocks me! So sad!
@stylish1012
@stylish1012 15 днів тому
Sounds like that animal of a grandma Hated her daughter in law all along and was most likely the reason for the divorce/separation of her sons marriage, sad for the other mom who was obviously at the wrong place at the wrong time! Smh
@Paula14609
@Paula14609 14 днів тому
Glad to hear there are good grannies. My son’s grandmother did everything short of murder. Total destruction of me was her goal. FOR NO REASON other than I divorced her son & exposed him as an alcoholic…proven for 16 rehabs. I cannot even describe the torture she put me through. True evil. My son has soooooo suffered. It is so sick.
@Paula14609
@Paula14609 14 днів тому
Evoked PTSD for me. I’ll NEVER HEAL from grannysevilness. And in actuality, the same was done to the grandson “she wanted to “protect”. I needed protection from granny for me & my son. She had PI’s following me for weeks. They found NOTHING & asked to wrap it up.
@pam190
@pam190 14 днів тому
Ikr. That would never enter my mind.
@Dranma51
@Dranma51 15 днів тому
This grandmother did not think about the welfare of her grandkids! Now they don’t have their mother! So selfish!
@sandilou2U
@sandilou2U 14 днів тому
They may have also lost their father, in a sense. It will be very difficult, if not impossible, for the father to be awarded custody given the fact that it was his mother who orchestrated the murders. The state will most likely terminate his rights and put the children up for adoption. The grandmother is said to be responsible for his arrest and conviction. If she did set him up because she did not want him to have custody then she had this planned for some time.
@michellepardue
@michellepardue 14 днів тому
I was in a custody dispute with my grandsons paternal grandpa , who was a real piece of work . Omg ! Very mean and cruel . And I never in my wildest dreams even thought of any violence towards him . Even in the worst of times . It takes a special type of sadistic &evil person to be capable of doing what grandma (allegedly 🙄) done
@jessicapayton4885
@jessicapayton4885 14 днів тому
​​@@sandilou2U in most states, the goal is reunification. If the son didn't know about all of this planning his mama did, and she set him up to go to jail, he should be able to have his paternal rights reinstated. You can't convict him for the sins of his mother. Only time will tell how much he did or didn't know about this plan.
@delishme2
@delishme2 14 днів тому
​@@sandilou2UI doubt that they will go to the father as they usually do. He had no connection to the crime, unless they can prove otherwise, and the criminal system has bigger fish to fry getting a conviction on these four. These kids lost their Grandma too,we see her as a terrible person, which she is, but to them she obviously adored them, and likely they her. They are the ones who will suffer the most. So terribly sad. I've been close to a situation very close to this. I honestly think had it nor been for me, the Grandmother would have likely committed a serious crime. I certainly wouldn't put it past her, I witnessed her do almost everything short of murd##. Sociopaths are a breed unto themselves. When on the war path, they are truly scary, and I'm not easily intimidated by anyone. Needless to say, I took extra, extra precautions when I had that woman in my state, and only breathed a sigh of relief when she left. I feel for these poor women, they underestimated their opponent.
@dorothyhurd3147
@dorothyhurd3147 14 днів тому
Stupid
@AbbaLovesUs
@AbbaLovesUs 15 днів тому
Nancy, you are a Treasure. Thanks for caring for the victims! ❤
@nancylowe2692
@nancylowe2692 15 днів тому
News Nation has excellent coverage of this case, as well. Their reporter interviewed the man who owned the land & he said that the Mothers' bodies were found 10 FEET DOWN! They moved hay over the top of the site so that the cows would walk all over it & it wouldn't look like the soil had been disturbed. These are some of the most evil criminals I have ever heard of.
@santiedormehl3042
@santiedormehl3042 14 днів тому
And very stubid
@keeper6458
@keeper6458 14 днів тому
News Nation you can trust
@garyw9164
@garyw9164 14 днів тому
@@keeper6458 Are you serious? CNN number 2.
@keeper6458
@keeper6458 14 днів тому
@@garyw9164 Yep. I'm very serious.
@drintx5734
@drintx5734 15 днів тому
Pure evil!
@Keeponsmiling60
@Keeponsmiling60 15 днів тому
PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR EVER LOVING MIND!!!!
@BobSmith-ll9ol
@BobSmith-ll9ol 15 днів тому
It’s the vaccine
@nekodragon1249
@nekodragon1249 15 днів тому
I took the vaccine and I don't want go out killing for no reason. So sorry vaccine isn't it
@truthmatters7805
@truthmatters7805 15 днів тому
​@@BobSmith-ll9ol Yes!!!!👍
@HighOctane-wo6cm
@HighOctane-wo6cm 15 днів тому
@@BobSmith-ll9ol You might be on to something here. The level of mental craziness has increased dramatically since 2020 at the onset of the vax
@Kim_C3
@Kim_C3 14 днів тому
Yes they have!! Ppl are crazy
@kirsty3253
@kirsty3253 15 днів тому
The worst part about this case is four minds all planned this .... all were OK with this ... all or even one could of backed out... but didn't... all could happily live this this.... And it took the child to report them....
@ViOhsa
@ViOhsa 14 днів тому
Why so much hate 🤔‼️…..
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 14 днів тому
4 or 5?😮
@wilblissful
@wilblissful 12 днів тому
Never underestimate the narcissist and their power over flying monkies.
@londynhlangulela9173
@londynhlangulela9173 15 днів тому
What makes this woman thinks kids need their grandma more than they need their mum
@Kim-gg3yz
@Kim-gg3yz 14 днів тому
Exactly. I can’t stand when grandmas act like they know better or are more important. Bad or good - kids want and love their mom!
@AliciaGuitar
@AliciaGuitar 14 днів тому
narcissism
@hope5443
@hope5443 14 днів тому
​@@AliciaGuitarnailed it. They are delusional.
@lifesgood3470
@lifesgood3470 14 днів тому
Totally
@kristensmith105
@kristensmith105 14 днів тому
Right! And now they won’t have either! 😢
@sammyday3341
@sammyday3341 15 днів тому
Can you imagine the fear the poor ladies experienced as everything unfolded in an instant and it sank in what was happening.
@Clintsessentials
@Clintsessentials 15 днів тому
Yep! Horrifying!!!
@profilingmanipulation
@profilingmanipulation 14 днів тому
I can't even.. Horrifying... And totally heartbreaking.. She cares about children so much she deprived two lots of children OF THEIR MOTHERS!!!!! SICKO! 😢❤
@marietaylor5174
@marietaylor5174 13 днів тому
I was thinking the same thing!
@islandgirl9166
@islandgirl9166 15 днів тому
Satan has taken over!
@sharon2419
@sharon2419 15 днів тому
Jesus told us when he said "The whole World is lying in the hand of the wicked one".....
@PeopleOverProfits777
@PeopleOverProfits777 15 днів тому
Yeah. Since the fall of man when we first sin against God.
@jackiepowell7513
@jackiepowell7513 14 днів тому
With help from the 3 held death angels, loosed at the drying of the Euphrates River. Eventual death of 2 billion and a half ppl.
@kathrynwitte3398
@kathrynwitte3398 14 днів тому
The grandmother was head of the county GOP!
@merimasviland8006
@merimasviland8006 14 днів тому
She is the satan
@racheledwards3651
@racheledwards3651 15 днів тому
She killed her because the mother was bettering herself and on a good path to getting her children back. Didnt they say the dad was at a rehab facility?
@deannamuz9086
@deannamuz9086 14 днів тому
Yes the father was in rehab
@awkwardautistic
@awkwardautistic 14 днів тому
I had a drug problem and my kids ended up in foster care, so me and their dad could go to rehab. I'm so glad that the foster family was great and supportive of us getting the kids back. As bad as it was for them to be with strangers..family can be messy.
@jenniferbell5482
@jenniferbell5482 14 днів тому
The granny had the father arrested and pit in rehab to get him out of the way so she could make her plan work.
@PJTYLER
@PJTYLER 13 днів тому
The Grandma is a Sovereign Citizen, and believes that the 2 children are her Sovereign Property. Grandma believes that the government had no right to interfere with her taking the children away from the mom.
@deltabluesdavidraye
@deltabluesdavidraye 13 днів тому
Dad? Wrangler is a criminal from hell.
@TaliaHoward4EVER
@TaliaHoward4EVER 15 днів тому
Please tell me she will never lay eyes on those grandchildren again .. she’s evil. Obviously she never really loved them to want to hurt them by killing their mother.
@animalantics5898
@animalantics5898 14 днів тому
I would think the girls wouldn't ever want anything to do with her after what she did to their mother.
@hiheeledsneakers1
@hiheeledsneakers1 15 днів тому
Its crazy! Wth did granny think would happen afterwards? Did she think no one would come looking for the mothers? Did she think they were not going to be missed? That every possible resource wouldn't be used? Evil evil woman!!
@kathrynwitte3398
@kathrynwitte3398 14 днів тому
Granny was the county head of the GOP.
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 14 днів тому
Ego.😢
@Truecrime822
@Truecrime822 15 днів тому
Granny and her posies are a hot mess.justice for Veronica and Jillian…
@bwb5255
@bwb5255 15 днів тому
Horrible case but Nancy is the only one who says what’s really going on. She doesn’t even try to BS it or play politics. She’s here for the victims. Love her bc she’s For Real .
@Clintsessentials
@Clintsessentials 15 днів тому
💯
@mauisheri
@mauisheri 15 днів тому
They planned this since early February!
@deborahdore5921
@deborahdore5921 14 днів тому
Yeah if we can get her in there for president in our country would be a whole bunch better don't you think
@personincognito3989
@personincognito3989 14 днів тому
To think about a decade ago a lot of people didn't like Nancy grace but I always liked her because she was straightforward.And she gave lots of information and asked lots of questions. Always there for the victims
@jonoharper4729
@jonoharper4729 14 днів тому
​@@personincognito3989 A lot of listeners don't like her presentation style, again today she was rude and condescending towards some of her guests. She really needs to build better rapport with guests, or else they won't want to work with her in future. I don't enjoy her style at all, lack of respect to her panel, but I watch her show to hear the inputs of the guests. She still has a lot to learn imo.
@queenie.lawyergirl.pittymom
@queenie.lawyergirl.pittymom 15 днів тому
Nancy, I'm moving on from pre-law to law school. ❤❤❤❤ just started my community field placement today. Always love watching your videos. You give these victims a voice! Love you Nancy ❤
@jessiefrye3045
@jessiefrye3045 15 днів тому
Congratulations!
@winterblommetjie
@winterblommetjie 14 днів тому
Congratulations 🎉🎉
@jackiepowell7513
@jackiepowell7513 14 днів тому
Pre law, History?
@blackwidor
@blackwidor 14 днів тому
Best of luck with your placement queenie xxx
@queenie.lawyergirl.pittymom
@queenie.lawyergirl.pittymom 14 днів тому
@blackwidor thank you so much. 💓💓💓💓
@Djcana
@Djcana 15 днів тому
This grandma and her codefendents are sick and twisted. I fell for veronicas children as they lived with this woman for months
@mthoustontx4311
@mthoustontx4311 14 днів тому
God your grammar is horrible!
@mauisheri
@mauisheri 15 днів тому
The evil grandmother bragged about walking right up to Veronica & Jilian in Veronica's car and shooting then..but there was a broken hammer at the scene and people wonder if Veronica was beaten. Jilian was so well loved in Hugoton. She is missed terribly. We are having her celebration of life next week in her husband's Church.
@deannamuz9086
@deannamuz9086 14 днів тому
@mauisheri where is the information come from that said the grandmother walked up and Shot them both. Affidavit said Tifany admitted she was responsible for their deaths and if memory, serves she said they were shot. I just haven't heard or read she was bragging
@jackiepowell7513
@jackiepowell7513 14 днів тому
Hugo?
@heather4089
@heather4089 14 днів тому
Im so sorry for what your community has to go through.
@kelleyhawk6595
@kelleyhawk6595 14 днів тому
@@deannamuz9086 @mauisheri has made a ton of comments about this case…I’m waiting for her news report since she seems to be in the loop of all the “facts”🙄 I wonder why Nancy doesn’t have her on the show since she is so well informed? 🤣
@jenniferbell5482
@jenniferbell5482 14 днів тому
I feel terrible for both women but Jilian was just helping her friend, tragic that she was murdered along with her.
@Anna-pz9ry
@Anna-pz9ry 15 днів тому
It’s wild how the town people expressed fear of this woman and her friends but the people in the area with power keep saying how nice they are.
@Truecrime822
@Truecrime822 15 днів тому
Nancy Grace is a great Reporter she tells you nothing but facts.
@profilingmanipulation
@profilingmanipulation 14 днів тому
Abusive mothers & fathers make abusive grandmothers & grandfathers. There really seems to be a missing link with how people dont grasp this. Abusers dont change because they become grandparents. Courts very often place children with the very grandparents who created the parents that aren't fit to look after their children. People naturally tend to believe grandparent equals loving & caring. When very often they're the matriach or patriach of the generational familial abuse being passed down. They're really the ones responsible for the mess, wreck & traumatised addicts struggling to look after their own children & function in society. CPS need to learn this FAST, the errors made mean children DIE. Drives me crazy! R.I.P 😢❤
@joyful_tanya
@joyful_tanya 14 днів тому
100% I know this from first hand experience.
@mesmith3379
@mesmith3379 12 днів тому
Truer words have never been spoken…thank you for saying this so eloquently!
@nunyabidness6045
@nunyabidness6045 7 годин тому
That part! 💯💯
@Hoka1hey
@Hoka1hey 15 днів тому
Still can't believe criminals carry cell phones around while committing acts like these and while digging holes in pastures...
@wendeebrumwell4713
@wendeebrumwell4713 15 днів тому
I am a grandmother and I would never do something like this. What the hell?🤦🏼‍♀️
@Daysfreak57332
@Daysfreak57332 15 днів тому
right? I can't believe people think this is the only option. Plus, how dumb are they- they talk about it with their kids, leave phones on so they can be tracked, bury bodies on ground they lease- also they asked permission to bury "trees and stuff" first- I think they didnt expect such national attention and since they could threaten their town judge, they figured they'd get away with it... I hope they ALL get life in prison, no parole ever....
@marywilliams5262
@marywilliams5262 15 днів тому
I’m an Oklahoma grandmother and there’s nothing I wouldn’t do to protect my grandchild from being Josh Duggard-ed. How many times do we have to learn that some parents do not protect their kids? The mom’s entire family denied the CPS report just like JimBob Duggar did for his son and lined up more victims. No one deserves this kind of situation but I believe the grandma was temporarily insane from hate and fear.
@nighthawkminerals
@nighthawkminerals 15 днів тому
Been going on Since 2015 come on! I feel she knew what she was doing
@magentared5822
@magentared5822 15 днів тому
​​@@marywilliams5262 wrong, granny's own son admitted that his mother fabricated the SA allegations, and also threatened him. It seems he was fine with Veronica having their children, and believed that she was a wonderful mother. Veronica had a clean background, and her character witnesses speak highly of her. This granny is a controlling, obsessive person who is used to doing whatever it takes to get her way, whether criminal or evil.
@magentared5822
@magentared5822 15 днів тому
​@@marywilliams5262CPS found the allegations untrue. Veronica's hearing for full custody was getting too close for granny's comfort. Granny knew that custody would be granted to Veronica.
@MountainmommaWV3
@MountainmommaWV3 14 днів тому
How horrible it must have been for those two women knowing this is it. Terrifying
@user-fr8fr4yv1c
@user-fr8fr4yv1c 14 днів тому
Small towns are corrupt like that and run by barberic thugs. Certain people are the law, not under the law. It's very dangerous to live in a small town.
@joyful_tanya
@joyful_tanya 14 днів тому
Exactly what has happened in the Sebastian Rodgers case. CP wife #4 revealed his character and he also has connections in the sheriff's department. And Summer Wells has never been found. 😢
@lanahanes8234
@lanahanes8234 12 днів тому
Rediculous
@CAT4U2C
@CAT4U2C 15 днів тому
The thing I don’t understand, the people that were babysitting the kids if they knew what they were gonna do they should’ve reported it to the police and save those women! The kids would still have their mom
@lindahickok5536
@lindahickok5536 15 днів тому
Hello Nancy. Thank you for the update.
@kristyreynoldsapaintersdau9016
@kristyreynoldsapaintersdau9016 15 днів тому
No one was safe. That woman is bat s-t crazy
@ChasingRainbows67
@ChasingRainbows67 15 днів тому
Looking beautiful as always Nancy ❤️ This is such a sad case. I live in Oklahoma and she thought she could get away with this. Because it's such a rural area. Everyone knows everyone. News flash.... She got caught!!! Thank you for covering this Nancy. ❤ RIP Veronica and Jillian Condolences to the family and loved ones of these two innocent women.
@flowerchild89
@flowerchild89 15 днів тому
Nancy, that blouse looks absolutely stunning on you! The color is beautiful. 😊👋🇱🇷 Illinois
@gioiazucchero
@gioiazucchero 14 днів тому
I like her hairstyle too 😊
@winterblommetjie
@winterblommetjie 14 днів тому
This is not the first case where a grandmother is involved with murdering a daughter in-law for custody of grandkids I'm afraid. There are so many it's so strange and diabolical
@AliciaGuitar
@AliciaGuitar 14 днів тому
This reminds me of the Rhoden family massacre
@winterblommetjie
@winterblommetjie 14 днів тому
@@AliciaGuitar yes my gosh that was absolutely horrific. Shame so much evil in this world 😔💔
@sandilou2U
@sandilou2U 14 днів тому
It is rumored the grandmother set her son up to be arrested and provided evidence used to convict him. I initially thought she wanted sole custody so she had the children's mother killed and ensured he would not be able to get custody. However, I do question if she did it to ensure he would not be connected to the murders and, in her mind, he would automatically be awarded sole custody upon his release.
@lauraberry960
@lauraberry960 14 днів тому
The evil in this world is astounding.
@maryyoung6380
@maryyoung6380 15 днів тому
Horrific crime against two unsuspecting women. It occurred to me that because the murderers were so savage in the deaths of these two innocent women, what could these precious children have heard or experienced? I pray for the children that they are released to a safe, strong, and loving family who will raise them selflessly and securely. The damage that was done here is unforgivable. It is an atrocity to humankind.
@magentared5822
@magentared5822 15 днів тому
@maryyoung6380 the children are in the care of their mother's family.
@jonoharper4729
@jonoharper4729 15 днів тому
Hey Nancy, how about not being so rude and condescending to some of your guests. You're hard to watch at times. Respect goes a long way.
@robbiephillips5827
@robbiephillips5827 10 днів тому
Haha. That IS Nancy and why most love her. And lol, her guest are not surprised. They know her well
@watchit6298
@watchit6298 14 днів тому
Moms ! Meet in a public place always with as many friends as possible! Always! Always ! When exchanging kids for visitation! And meetings!
@denarenee3198
@denarenee3198 15 днів тому
Craziness. Such a sad case.
@HEllis-qu5nn
@HEllis-qu5nn 14 днів тому
If really knew what true love was you would never destroy their mother whomthey love and need in their lives. How could you do that to your grandchildren???
@TashaRenee02
@TashaRenee02 15 днів тому
This is so terrible I feel bad for those children and for both of those ladies families. I sure do hope justice is done in my opinion no time given is enough time, those beautiful young ladies are gone forever. Just absolutely heartbreaking.
@NatalieScanlon
@NatalieScanlon 14 днів тому
Luckily Oklahoma is a death penalty state
@nekodragon1249
@nekodragon1249 15 днів тому
Hugs and respect Nancy ive watched you for years. Thank you for doing the update prayers to the families of the 2 women. Sad all around 😢
@marcycollinshtd4life
@marcycollinshtd4life 15 днів тому
The church is accepting flowers for there memorial garden if anyone wants to donate
@thewanderer1139
@thewanderer1139 14 днів тому
Why did the MIL have them ( the kids) and not her own mother?
@marspentacle751
@marspentacle751 14 днів тому
@@thewanderer1139it doesn’t matter why. Just because the victims 13 yr old brother did something when the victim was herself a teen mother doesn’t mean anyone had the right to murder her.
@wwindwwalker3536
@wwindwwalker3536 15 днів тому
I think they tortured these two women. I believe granny tortured Veronica to no end! They were missing for two weeks but how long have they been deceased? I think those four monsters tortured them for days before they killed them.
@magentared5822
@magentared5822 14 днів тому
@wwindwwalker3536, maybe not because their car was found right away, with blood evidence.
@angels0auras
@angels0auras 14 днів тому
That granny has knuckles bigger than Mike Tyson 😮 (raptor)
@deborahvandenheuvel1904
@deborahvandenheuvel1904 15 днів тому
Anvil used on cartoons Road Runner
@THEPAPASMURFTHEOG
@THEPAPASMURFTHEOG 15 днів тому
thank you for covering this Nancy.. what a sad situation.. justice will be served for the 2 ladies who lost their lives.. the people who did this crime, are pieces of garbage!
@beckyhoffman9423
@beckyhoffman9423 14 днів тому
I am in shock that they really thought they would get away with these murders so stupid
@sharon2419
@sharon2419 15 днів тому
A mission? One begins to wonder, how many other mission's they have carried out, lot's of planning, time, and money went on here, very disturbing, and to know the grandmother wanted maximum PAIN.......... 😭.
@Helechawagirl
@Helechawagirl 15 днів тому
Makes me wonder if they’ve done it before.
@NatalieScanlon
@NatalieScanlon 14 днів тому
In the affidavit it says the daughter asked her if she put them in the well. Law enforcement needs to immediately search all the wells on all of their properties
@CharlesSwanson-dw6ht
@CharlesSwanson-dw6ht 15 днів тому
I''ve said it B4, and I'll say it again, NANCY & CHERYL Rock. Love their chemistry..THANK you BOTH.. for being sincere,in your fights for the victims. GOD BLESS the two of them .
@MichaelSteven81
@MichaelSteven81 14 днів тому
Be a guest on Nancy Grace but you cannot talk or give your opinion if different than nancys!NANCY SIT BACK RELAX AND LET YOUR GUESTS SPEAK!!!!DAMN
@bamaboy7489
@bamaboy7489 14 днів тому
She was sloppy with the killings cause she thought she was above the law and would not be caught
@iloveschicken6527
@iloveschicken6527 13 днів тому
Tragedies like this absolutely turn my stomach! Demons are here amongst us folks! Steer clear of them!
@ConfederateDixieDarling
@ConfederateDixieDarling 15 днів тому
Oh they are 100% guilty, they just have not been declared guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by a court
@bodymindsoul60
@bodymindsoul60 15 днів тому
Sick , cold monsters!
@autisticMargo
@autisticMargo 15 днів тому
Anvils falling like in a Roadrunner cartoon
@susanwilson3424
@susanwilson3424 14 днів тому
FYI: A stun gun and a taser are two different things. You have to get in close contact to use a stun gun.
@TheGeminiEffect32
@TheGeminiEffect32 14 днів тому
Nancy,your either going to let them talk or just talk yourself
@lisas8244
@lisas8244 14 днів тому
I don't even know why she has guests on her show unless it's just to keep her company and listen to her yell.
@SueDawson-pl1cx
@SueDawson-pl1cx 14 днів тому
I think when the women told the teenager things didn’t go “ as planned” they planned on shooting them but bat shit crazy ladies wanted to out there agression on them . I bet they find several burn marks on one of them and a few on the other. From the taser. Sick sick people. And the thing is I bet the one lady lead a prayer that everything would go well before they got there): just a sad senseless disturbing chain of events. And that town has some explaining to do as to why after already being threatened once that “ grandma” was alowed visitation of those kids. I don’t care how nice she seemed. The mother was clearly scared of her and knew she was unstable. Sounds like she wasn’t believed and wanted to bring the other lady as a witness as well as moral support. People need to be accountable for letting that happen.
@marymacgregor6952
@marymacgregor6952 14 днів тому
It boggles my mind that people resort to murder to solve problems. Do they really believe it’s a good idea and that they won’t get caught.
@kathyblanton9992
@kathyblanton9992 15 днів тому
They all look like boogie men and women
@MartyWoodcock
@MartyWoodcock 15 днів тому
"Innocent" until proven guilty, ONLY in courts, NOT in reality though.
@JustMe65573
@JustMe65573 15 днів тому
Not even the courts are following that in certain areas now
@terryramsey1484
@terryramsey1484 14 днів тому
Won’t take much to prove this gang guilty….🤷‍♂️
@JohnWayneGacysBoyfriend
@JohnWayneGacysBoyfriend 14 днів тому
Just look at OJ
@dorothyhurd3147
@dorothyhurd3147 14 днів тому
Guilty for sure thats what its call.
@kaatttyyyy
@kaatttyyyy 14 днів тому
I almost always question why some of Nancy's guests don't just "hang up" on her when she starts attacking them. Big props to them for having thick skin and bearing the brunt anyway! It often feels like these people are trying to tread lightly with their comments to avoid an attack and just give her exactly what she's wanting to hear, and yet they still get called out by her! She's ruthless when it comes to ridicule, man.. and to think, these people are doing NANCY a favor by sharing their time to be on HER show. Sheesh! Not gonna lie, it makes me laugh sometimes... but, I also find humor in uncomfortability... and it's often uncomfortable to watch her react to her own guests comments in such a rude and mean-spirited manner. Otherwise, her show is great! It's very informative and an interesting watch!
@pennycoleccio8189
@pennycoleccio8189 14 днів тому
Evil . I am a grandmother, of twin beautiful boys. I can't even think like this. Sick people
@southernsass2937
@southernsass2937 15 днів тому
This is one crazy case 😢
@user-kj8sf5yh7x
@user-kj8sf5yh7x 15 днів тому
In what area is it "very common" for anvils to fall off of construction trucks"?
@dialatedxpupilzx
@dialatedxpupilzx 13 днів тому
ikr! Weird that thats what the court documents say. Im assuming one of the 5 idiots who plotted this whole thing said that either to the 12year old witness, or in text to one another etc. Something like that.
@92murdah
@92murdah 13 днів тому
I love the passion and loving heart Nancy has for this crimes … but geez she gotta give her guest a chance to talk without talking over them 🫶🏼🙏🏽🤍
@dawnkincaid5845
@dawnkincaid5845 15 днів тому
❤ Thank you Nancy
@lynettemcendarfer8672
@lynettemcendarfer8672 12 днів тому
You know who really loses out of all of this? The kids. They lost their mother, dad, grandma and dad's family over the dad's family's evil ways
@paulfowler2378
@paulfowler2378 15 днів тому
I don’t understand people like this.
@marknewton6984
@marknewton6984 14 днів тому
And you shouldn't..
@sunspotbaby1962
@sunspotbaby1962 15 днів тому
Reminds me of the Ohio murders in Pike County.
@hiheeledsneakers1
@hiheeledsneakers1 15 днів тому
Absolutely!
@scorpion-lg4ic
@scorpion-lg4ic 15 днів тому
agreed. in both cases idk how any of the murdering families think they could have gotten away with it. they practically committed planned executions of people they had open hostility towards in child custody cases. how could they not realize they would be looked at as suspects right from the start?? also, they were so sloppy in their planning & actions after the fact... evidence of her buying burner phones from the Walmart near her home, buying 5 tasers from a gun shop, their Internet search history like "taser pain level", the religious couple telling their 16 y.o. child of the plans before hand & then afterwards that it didn't "go to plan" but they are still dead etc. talk about stupidity!!!
@mauisheri
@mauisheri 15 днів тому
It wasnt a bulldozer.. They used a backhoe. Told the neighbor they were burying some concrete.
@EinsteinsHair
@EinsteinsHair 14 днів тому
A couple of times they called it a skid steer, which is much smaller than a full-sized bulldozer, more like a front-end loader. Whatever it was, what gets me is that the landowner was completely shocked the bodies were on his land. Two women are missing, there is lots of idle speculation the grandmother was behind it, and her boyfriend is burying something the same day. It would cross my mind what he was doing. Knowing him I might dismiss it. I don't think I would be completely shocked.
@dorothyhurd3147
@dorothyhurd3147 14 днів тому
Both is bad
@kelleyhawk6595
@kelleyhawk6595 14 днів тому
Yes they called it a skid steer. I guess out of two innocent women being murdered, all u took from it and worried about was the make of the piece of equipment used. 🙄🙄🙄
@mauisheri
@mauisheri 14 днів тому
@@kelleyhawk6595 YES! I saw that....thank you for the correction. My brother owned a skidsteer and did fine grading on the side while he was a fireman.
@jessiefrye3045
@jessiefrye3045 15 днів тому
Horrendous. Evil!!!
@markgoforth1900
@markgoforth1900 14 днів тому
Nancy plz report responsibly - the grandmother convinced the whole town and other misfits by telling this story that the children were being SA by the mothers family. Their mission was the same mentality as prisoners. Note: no charge ever against any family members for SA according to the lawyer for Adams in the custody hearing. Because she was going to loose her temp custody they were on a mission to save them from going back to "danger". That's the motive they are going to use but as far as the law goes, there is no proof. She's a master manipulater and a psychopath
@paulald2004
@paulald2004 14 днів тому
Okay, glad you shed light on that. Several commented Re: the brother; makes perfect sense that a narc/controller would claim someone was abusing them.
@markgoforth1900
@markgoforth1900 14 днів тому
@@paulald2004 yea the half brother is 18 years old now but several platforms are saying the SA was on both children and it happened a year or so ago. The reason dad to the children, Wrangler, was able to get emergency hearing and granted temperary custody and Jennifer supervised visitation. All of this his mother, Tiffany, was instructing her son even threatened his life if he didn't do as she said. The courts were waiting for this proof they say they had. This court hearing was to address the charges and/or return custody back to mom. Gmaw knew she was going to loose because the SA couldn't be proven. Gmaw was allegedly going to murder the judge if mom couldn't be lured to her death. She messed up the first attempt in Feb. I live in Arkansas, a mile from Oklahoma border, and in Oklahoma you have the "make my day" and "open carry" laws plus different agencies interpertating their own meaning. You have laws of the land and Tribal law. They both have very different punishment phases when it comes to firearms but has it been confirmed they were shot or beaten? This is just a mess.... So heartbreaking
@paulald2004
@paulald2004 14 днів тому
@@markgoforth1900 I also read similar comments RE: custody and that the Court decided there was no proof of SA. And, the COD has not been determined yet. After the autopsy, we probably still won’t know if the case is sealed until trials begin. Tragic. What a hateful group of people. I suspect the SA was caused by the Narc-maw. Narcs usually blame others for their actions.
@Justhetruthhere
@Justhetruthhere 14 днів тому
I wait every night for you to upload your nightly video!! I sit and drink my coffee and craft while listening to Nancy.
@WickedMaineha
@WickedMaineha 14 днів тому
DIFFERENT THEORY: 1) Stun gun was used to render the women defenseless. 2) Hammer was used to beat the women to death. (This was a deeply personal and highly aggressive attack) 3) I don't believe the women were dead when put in the vehicles but they were dying. 4) At the rental property the hole was already dug and waiting for them. Where they put the women in as they were dying and buried them. Is Grandmother wanted her Ex-Daughter-in-law to know exactly who was doing this and wanted to watch her suffer for every second until she went into that hole.
@jonoharper4729
@jonoharper4729 14 днів тому
Agree with all your points. Apparently cause of death wasn't by firearm. And the volume of blood evidence indicates blunt force. The ME report and autopsy will be interesting, if lungs were still functioning when they were buried. Terrible. So sad. RIP Veronica and Jillian 🙏🙏❤
@Lisa-dd6gm
@Lisa-dd6gm 13 днів тому
Terrible the thought of this all 💔😭😭😢
@vanessajohnson1807
@vanessajohnson1807 14 днів тому
It is crazy that they would leave items like stun gun and broken hammers and I heard eye glasses at the crime scene.
@joyslabaugh8286
@joyslabaugh8286 14 днів тому
Unbelievably, disgusting.
@TracyHancock-sk4gy
@TracyHancock-sk4gy 13 днів тому
Nancy Grace is my hero! She insults tf out of the guests on her panel while calling them by their full name, what they do, who they work for, SSN, DOB, address, and mothers maiden name😂 FR I love you Nancy, your care, compassion, intelligence goes unmatched!! Thank You🙏
@merimasviland8006
@merimasviland8006 14 днів тому
You are always telling the experts to dumb things down, you know that your listeners are not as stupid as you think. A lot of what the experts say are common sense and understandable.
@jrockin9221
@jrockin9221 14 днів тому
Sooo much wrong with these evil people!! Who makes their teenage daughter go clean up a dead person’s blood out of their vehicle!???
@theinspiredgardener6434
@theinspiredgardener6434 15 днів тому
I wonder if they were still alive when they were buried.
@Lisa-dd6gm
@Lisa-dd6gm 13 днів тому
😭😢
@michellemuscat6627
@michellemuscat6627 15 днів тому
Re Granny's photo's, especially the "Glamour" one, the gum her her mouth is a nice touch and says it all.
@lisas8244
@lisas8244 14 днів тому
🤣🤣🤣
@bernice4599
@bernice4599 14 днів тому
Lol
@user-bc9de9hx6g
@user-bc9de9hx6g 14 днів тому
I believe that the evil ex mother in law Tiffany Adams is completely satisfied with these murderes and has no care if she dies in prison or is put to dead because her " mission " has been executed. The evil hatred she is made of, makes her happy that the mother of this two poor children will never be present in their lifes. These 6 children had lost the only one person who can love them infinite and beyond their mothers.
@freemeow
@freemeow 14 днів тому
you are the greatest Nancy I love how you care
@wenniekeith888
@wenniekeith888 14 днів тому
Anvils are usually welded on. They don't fall off . I've seen 1on the side of the road in my 5 decades in this area. Crazy thinking!
@diamondsaphire3444
@diamondsaphire3444 14 днів тому
When everyone was wondering why the townsfolk wouldn't talk please look at this and understand why. The community knew about this grandmother and her capabilities and those of us in small rural America do not always have trust in our law enforcement to keep us safe.
@sp35416
@sp35416 14 днів тому
I absolutely love you Nancy!!! I met you at the oj (meant to do that) trial. I was hooked! I've learned so much about the law since finding you here on UKposts. Keep up your awesomeness Until next time Good bye my friend💖💖
@merimasviland8006
@merimasviland8006 14 днів тому
NANCY GRACE, YOU ARE SO RUDE TO THE GUESTS. YOU DONT LET THEM TALK OR HAVE AN OPINION THAT IS NOT THE SAME AS YOURS. WHY DO YOU HAVE THEM ON?? YOU LOVE TO HEAR YOURSELF TALK AND TO TALK ABOUT YOURSELF SO SPARE THE POOR PEOPLE FROM YOUR HELL
@JohnWayneGacysBoyfriend
@JohnWayneGacysBoyfriend 14 днів тому
😂
@lisas8244
@lisas8244 14 днів тому
😭👍💯
@user-tg9lu2gu1p
@user-tg9lu2gu1p 14 днів тому
Nancy, you are rude to guests
@Clintsessentials
@Clintsessentials 15 днів тому
Death penalty in Oklahoma?????
@magentared5822
@magentared5822 14 днів тому
@Clintsessentials yes Oklahoma has DP.
@Clintsessentials
@Clintsessentials 14 днів тому
@@magentared5822 good! Thank you!
@magentared5822
@magentared5822 14 днів тому
@@Clintsessentials 👍
@shaysmith2125
@shaysmith2125 14 днів тому
Yes it is and matter of fact Oklahoma is number 2 behind Texas for executions...This is definitely a DP case for sure
@Helloskyyt321
@Helloskyyt321 14 днів тому
The children are always the ones who suffer when adults fight and act stupid and make horrible decisions. This sweet innocent children pay the price every single time. It’s horrific!
@TishaBaker-kq9gw
@TishaBaker-kq9gw 14 днів тому
Tifany was my neighbor for about 2 yrs. She was always strange to me and reclusive. I also worked with Veronica, she was a sweetheart, my heart breaks for her and Jillian and their families. This is such a tragedy! Prayers for these families 🙏
@deborahdeldebbioable
@deborahdeldebbioable 15 днів тому
Anyone have any idea why Granny thought she could actually get away with this? Seems highly delusional.
@jenniferbell5482
@jenniferbell5482 14 днів тому
That is what narcissists are, surprised she actually participated in the murder instead of having the others do as they don’t like to get their hands dirty. They are usually delusional and definately think they are above the law.
@janicegrimes-uh2jc
@janicegrimes-uh2jc 14 днів тому
My grandmother always told me that i would have the face god gave me until around 50 and then i would get the one I deserve. I think that is a good example of that.
@davidsipes9682
@davidsipes9682 13 днів тому
I grew up living just several miles away from her. I'm friends with her ex husband. He said she is crazy
@brendadempsey5298
@brendadempsey5298 14 днів тому
Just adore you Nancy 💕
@margipinto7925
@margipinto7925 14 днів тому
Literally the mother-in-law from hell.
@watchit6298
@watchit6298 14 днів тому
What is going on with mom in laws now ! The Adelson grandma now this ? Is this due to Grandmother being able to get full legal custody in the courts ? Give granny an inch and the go crazy ! How do they think this is not destroying grandchildren?
@garycollier6950
@garycollier6950 14 днів тому
This is so similar to the Dan Markel murder case in Florida.The evil grandmother masterminded her son-in-law's murder for control of her 2 grandkids. Donna Adelson is the name of the grandmother.
@jamiepatterson558
@jamiepatterson558 15 днів тому
2,093 views in 20 minutes?! Awesome Nan-G 🙃
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