+Jason Papa german cars is where its at if you want superb mechanical quality

+Jason Papa Anyone who says "I'd rather have a Porsche than a Subaru" is an idiot. Not because there's anything wrong with Porsche, but the price gap and targeted audience is so different. That's like going to an ice cream parlor saying "eh, I'd rather have steak".

+Peter Schmidt great point and explanation

+Jason Papa In a perfect world I'd like to have both a 63 Impala set up exactly like how my father had his in his drag racing days AND a Subaru STI. But if I had to choose only one, it'd be the Impala. Simply because of sentimental value. Personally, I don't see why you would want something so expensive as a Porsche. Sure, it's fast and looks nice. But for the same amount of money or less you can build a car that is just as fast or faster.

Dakota Newcombe if you have porsche money why would you buy less? you actually get what you pay for, You can make a faster car than the porsche but the packaging, the style, the reliability and so much more is just why you should go porsche. Cars just speak for themselves and different people want to appeal to likeminded people. Cruising down the road with your 750 hp supra? supra guys will connect in an instant. Fast cars are all alike in that matter. But if you make big bucks and you want to get to other ppl who can ball like you, a more expensive car will show this. Tl DR. You get what you pay for, and cars are a statussymbol aswell as a tool to go fast.

oh and the fact they can go from 0-60 in like 4.9 seconds (which was faster than the standard Vette at the time)

Did you ever get the car?? I would love to know if you did!!

European sports cars are cramped and impractical. Tune a scoob and you’ll be keeping up with the sports cars and you’ll be significantly more comfortable and have much more money in your wallet (until summit blows up on ya)

2020.. have it yet? p/s: i'm driving a 2004 sti for 8 years now

I wanted a WRX since I was in grade school. After 15 years later, I still want one.

no space to work with, hard to change parts....

You had to do all that at 100k ?

@@johntesh199 at about 170k. I bought it from my neighbor and the gaskets were leaking bad. I meant to say that after all the repairs it should drive another 100k

@@pfcaraujo nice!

@@pfcaraujo I just got an 02 boutta do all that myself

always wanted to be a mechanic, maybe one day ill buy a bug since they're basically the pb&j of project cars and easy to fix haha!

a lot of them used to. the VW Beetle had a boxer 4 cylinder and was legendary not just because it was efficient, but also pretty reliable and easy to work on. Porsche still uses boxer engines in the 911

Best description. Totally agree.

@tponn or have an Audi and laugh at the vapers in kids cars.

漂亮

ryan leggo yes

Well yeah obviously they don’t have one because they hate it

there 2 options, or you don't have a subaru boxer or you don't have the 4th cylinder

yeah i hate ricers too.

Thank you for your competent comment on this. For me, the only thing that could be a critic point on flat engines are the gasket problems that, always, take much time and effort to be solved. But it is not stopping me to look out for a 3.0R flat 6 engine (not that much of those were sold in Switzerland).

not to mention the fact that the WRX is supposed to have rumble since it's a damn sports car.

Even then not subarus have ULH.

My SVX engine also doesn't have the Subaru Rumble. Equal length headers as well.

Is it possible, or even good, to have UEL headers in a FA???

find someone who can work on Subaru engines well

Rotary engines are bad ass!

The Readers Corner Or a Civic haha

+Connor Keegan or a corolla

EXACTLY.

Or they just are dumb.

Or they are just dumb.

Preach it! Stick shift forever!

That's true

NemanjaGuitar Completely disagree. I had a 2010 outback and just got a 2015. I am amazed at the changes in those five years. the 2015 is a completely different car. advanced CVT, which i loved in my 10 and in the 15. The ride is better, as is handling. The electronics are fantastic. I simply could not be happier. Manual transmissions are for kids. I am not a casual driver, just one who enjoys riding and driving a very nice, solid and safe car. What more could one ask for.

amesburydory A solid, nice, safe car could be absolutely any modern car with a few exceptions. Saying your satisfied doesn't make it OK to remove options others enjoy, especially on the sportier cars. Saying "manual is for kids" isn't a good argument for removing manuals. For me for example, it's being in control of the engine. If anything, it let's you be more responsible for your own fuel economy, speed, etc. Other than the "show off" element I'm not sure why manual is "for kids". I've driven a manual my whole life, good luck finding a car here that isn't one.

Love the high torque cvt in my 2015 Legacy 3.6r. You're misinformed

Subaru boxers generally run fine for 300k + just keep it stock even the 2.0 turbos, a new head gasket and timing belt is always welcome around 130k miles just like every other 4 cylinder vehicle

@@jakefearing6640 how about adding straight exhaust pipe? Is that interfering with stock?

@@erickforester6450 im not 100% sure but a cat back straight pipe wont affect the longevity of your boxer

heck my alternator belt snapped at around 120,000 miles in my 2010 Outback.

Chase Null If you make a pulley system in a garage and you don't have a motor pull then you can do headgaskets, or just buy a pulley and do it safer. Not to mention having something to allow you to pull motors will help in the future.

Connor Keegan funny my straight six doesn't need an engine life, I could literally sit inside the house of my car and work on it.

Well that didn't make sense. I agree that boxer motors are a bitch to work on, I was just saying it's cheaper to get a motor pulley and be able to pull them and fix the headgasket yourself if you're mechanically inclined. I also know that it's easier to pull the head on an inline four, a straight six, and most other motors that don't actually require you pulling out the entire motor. I'm pretty sure you can also drop the entire front suspension on my 96 impreza outback to get enough room to pull off the heads but it's a tight fit to be working on it like that.

+Chase Null I recently pulled the engine out of my sti, had it rebuilt and put it back in. It was a total breeze, and before that all I had ever done was change break pads and oil...Subaru engines are really easy to work on, but the horizontally apposed design makes the weak head gaskets hard to work on, you can do them in the car, but it is a pain.

***** sorry you had to do that. seems like a lot of work for a newer car. I say newer since I have never had to do it on my 2000 cherokee

Absolutely - that mime just slows everything down and adds no value to an exposition that I'm deeply interested in

@@catnipyfy cause when you think cars...you think mimes

irony of this comment is your pfp

+Kirill Kravchuk Boy do I feel sorry for you. try a chevy small block at 7500 rpm; you'll need a clean pair of short's after that ! piss on Subaru !

Exception of Ford? Ford are the worst cars dude, especially their trucks.

that was a sarcasm guys, thnx for feedback lol

i love the shitwars you guys start they entertain me

their on par with ford, both are really great cars

Last year for headgasket issues in the US was 1999 when the EJ25D was phased out. The 251/253 rarely has issues, and is almost always maintenance related.

In Australia the 2.5 was notorious for doing it passenger side around 100,000kms. Even the tech said that it was something that they 'fixed' from 2007 onwards. 3 cars I know of were all meticulously maintained, 2 Foresters and 1 Liberty. If you were lucky it happened before the 100,000km service, if not (like me) it was 3,000kms after it had just been in for it's $1800 100,000kms service.

It has always been and will always be a common issue with H engines.

@@JyroOne not really. Just find the right mechanic.

They solved that issue and they are reliable again

+General Zod hehe, looking at your beemer in a new light? My i4 is lying on the side :P

at least you don't have a flamingo nigga lol

made me laugh bro. thank you

Perhaps you are Marcellus Wallace?

+General Zod Giraffes are cool as

+Nick Prince Nice, I'm planning on getting a FRS soon. What a Great Car.

@@TylerN945 did you get it?

Name Last Yup, 4 years of owning an frs. Still a great car. @toyota_eight6 is my IG handle if you wanna check it out.

@@TylerN945 just followed and it's crazy how the transformation of the car has gone & how I checked up on it haha. Awesome build!

Name Last Thank you! Your 86 is clean as well!

Mine is incredibly easy to work on.

it gets annoying needed to lift the motor out if you want to do any work to valves or gaskets. Alternator is a dream tho

+nukeboy27 I did the valve cover gaskets without lifting it out, never needed to go further into the motor.

get a good mechanic.

Sorry to say but that noise that everybody loved in the 2.5 is no longer present in the 2.0 fb20 engine..... headers got equalized to increase efficiency

tim michelson How big is the market going to be for unequal length extractors for these things u reckon? :) I just picked up one of the last 2.5L WRX's at a bargain price in Oz, must have the rumble!

Last a problem in the '99 model year for select models equipped with the EJ25D engine. The replacement EJ251/253 rarely has headgasket issues, unless maintenance is not followed.

independentmotors.net/subaru-head-gasket-replacement/

FCFordLord i have an ej251 and the head gasket issues were fixed in 2010-2011 for those (2004 impreza 2.5 ts) because I blew 2 of them before that was fixed.

The EJ25's were the only ones that had this issue. This was fixed when the replaced their head gaskets with multilayer steel gaskets. Which is where the (they must be machined on replacement) heads. The EJ22 and EJ18 used a graphite design that filled in imperfections. But while they used this as well for the early EJ25, because it was machined out of the same block design. This left less surface area for the graphite compound to fill, and allowed for head gasket failure. Replacing it with a MLS head gasket allowed to have a strong bond (because graphite isn't that strong inherently, and will erode.) This allowed the issue to be fixed. For a long term fix, they added a additive to the list for service with coolant replacement. Subaru's Coolant Conditioner, which actually has a micro-filler to prevent premature failure, but filling in the imperfections that may happen while the engine is hot or the head starts to warp, which looks to be based on a graphite compound. (not sure what it is.) I have a EJ22 that I just replaced the headgasket on personally. It only has a Graphite compound gasket. Works great for that. Not that I had to replace it, but because I was doing other work, I did.

Robert Drake or a v engine with a Flamingo i have a Jeep grand Cherokee 5.2. haha.

Thank you!

Surely it was made by a japanese guy and then translated to english.

haha yeah

that meme and animal comparison is just weird!

to, two, too. So many choices...

You're a japanese and yet you use a Chinese name......very japanese........

Aoru Not everyone use their real name on SNS.

LIANG XU and also vw, alfa romeo.

Poesche has been using boxer engines for 911 and Boxster/Cayman for decades.

Porsche still uses flat engines.

A series of steel gears for the Timing? = +Weight, +More Rotating Mass, +More Expensive... Hope this clears out why Belt is = Cheaper, Lighter and Has better Performance.

skirmish is partially right but he also forgot to add that the advancement/ delay of timing is in the case of the timing compartment on DOHC engines. Putting in a gear drive would make it harder to to develop the system. Our cummins 8.3l ISC has about 950lb of torque but 325 hp where as the subaru 2l has 265 hp and 250ish of torque. Diesel engines produce lumps of torque but little hp thus a subaru belt system wouldnt be able to cope. Besides a timing belt is like $140 + 1hr time to change on subarus but cummins gears are expensive and a pain to remove.

tim michelson But how often do you remove gears? Practically never.

how do you make vvt system with a gear train??? Lets not forget this is a 300lb engine we are talking about, not 3000lbs of steel like cummins

@@skirmich Studebaker sixes and V8s used steel helical cut gears to drive the cam. Come to think of it, the Chevy stovebolt used gear drive.

or you can find the right mechanic

+MadelnJapan I'll give you a cheeseburger for it.

+MadelnJapan no you dont

good job

No you dont.

+RCPro Driver My BMW 130i has an inline 6 as many BMWs: M135, M235, 335i... And BMW keeps upgrading its legendary inline 6 with new technology...

+RCPro Driver to my knowledge, the additional parts in any horizontal engine don't really ever fail. Obviously they *can* fail, but normally the common mechanical problems with horizontal engines has to do with oil. I get the impression I-6 engines are just too awkwardly shaped to put them in modern cars. I don't think their size is the problem, they're just so long. Due to safety regulations and demand for more desirable features, it just makes more sense to go for a V6 instead. Brands like BWM and Jaguar likely will never abandon I-6 engines because that's what they're really known for, so they'll do what they can to make them fit.

Peter Schmidt if you drive a inline 6 you will know why they stick to it... It is long, and in fact it helps achieving a great weigth distribution... Add a twin turbo to it and it will beat most v6 out there and still keep perfect ressonance

+RCPro Driver The FRS is heavy as balls, that thing needs a 5L V8 at least. Or a turbo V6. Unless you throw some seats out or something, it needs some serious liters, or high-strung tuning.

cybertree I agree. how it weighs more than my scion XB is beyond me. Stupid lobbyist for the auto companies getting laws passed that make it impossible for them to build cars that weigh 2,000 pounds...which is about what a small RWD hatch should weigh. The days of "light" hot hatches and RWD coupes are gone. As are the days of straight 6's...which IMO are better than any V6.

Ace Campano You realize your bitching at other people on the internet over car make when all that fucking matters is you like what you drive. Get a life.

The Evo is actually going to be nonexistent soon, I'm sure you know,

Ахахахахахаха,you sure about this ? I have watched EVO and STI on rallys and eaven 1 driver wanted to compete with them both,to see who is the better! EVO turned out to be 3 seconds ahead of the STI,i am an STI lover and i am a big fan,but that fact is bothering me,so don't be so cocky that the STI is better than the EVO.. I hop[e in near future the STI can make a better model than the EVO to beat it :)

Randall Peralta As much of a Subaru fan I am, it's sad to see the end of the rivalry. (well...the future of it)

Lol 4g63 destroys it u fool

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Best comment here…..Subarus are one of the best

+VolkswagenVMan That's a five year old documentary. These days they are building 1 million a year. Indiana plant alone is building 30k engines a month

+VolkswagenVMan I think they meant they are producing more of them at present than any other company, which really isn't a great achievement since only one other company builds them (Porsche).

Maestro_T in cars yes, but Continental and Lycoming use the same design in aircraft engines. In fact most smaller piston aircraft use horizontally opposed designs. They almost never use any other engine configuratin in 4 and 6 cylinder applications. They go from flat 6 to radial engine if they need more power.

Y10Q I'm sure Subaru is producing more engines than they are too.

This video lies in more ways than one and it is a shame, because Subaru does make a very good car. Owner satisfaction has been high since it was first made in Sweden. And don't forget the Harley Davidson XA motorcycle made in the 1940s it had a opposed two cylinder flat engine. And the Chevrolet Corvair, 6 cylinder flat air cooled engine,made in the 60s. Ralph Nader made it look bad. Even BMW has been making flat engines since the 30s, in their motorcycles.

I've had zero issues with valve gaskets and have had my car, which is from 2003 btw, for 4 years.

Dominic Fong the gaskets from the turbo models are much better as they are different design

+ktm640lc4BGD Yeah and your BMW height of perfection. Yes BMW's complete shit. Beautiful skin's all friable gearbox, glyuchanaya electrician and poor suspension. BMW shit.

+Dmitry Sti by your comment on the topic (boxer engine) i can see you are a smart guy.

+mystic1754 well i do not get it now... are you saying spark plugs on boxer or bmw are complicated to change? i think it is more complicated on boxer because on bmw i just have to take the top plastic cover and ignition coil (one screw) to access spark plugs...

+ktm640lc4BGD Whole story starts to flip when you think motorcycle. There's nothing more user friendly than a flat twin bike. On a car however, there are some more advantage: -Oscillating masses are completely nullified -> you wont need additional rotating masses to compensate -Perfectly symmetrical ignition -Biggest possible bores and displacement per cylinder Yet, in the end I agree with you. Those advantages only really start carrying weight in the high end sports world. I love Boxer-Bikes for their torque, charisma and user friendliness, but wouldnt wanna own a car with it.

+ktm640lc4BGD well they are kinda annoying to work on. as the video said 6:58. they are kinda complex

find a good mechanic

Subaru is garbage. They are putting trash into a can and calling it a car. Gordon is right. Find a goods mechanic. Oooooo all wheel drive. Doesn’t matter if the car doesn’t go any where. Parts a stupidly exspensive. 400$ for oem cv axle a piece. Come on. I had to replace mine at 65k. Bull crap.

Ej25* which is what the sti uses(ej257), and its the only car still produced with it. Its trash but the ej20s,ej22s, FA20, ez30 and ez36 are great engines. The diesel boxer was unique and an innovation but somewhat incomplete.... Because it still had many problems

I bought an Outback with 3.6 engine. Loving it !

mar1video until it starts drinking oil.

duh

I haven't heard that much

Why? I was quoted $1,100 to replace a cam belt in one car. I questioned UKposts and easily replaced 2 cam-belts on my 2 Subaru's in less than 3 hours for $126 parts! After my bikes, they are a dream to get at.

Mine is very easy to work on. Much easier than inline 4 cars.

Actually, I got the 3 hours wrong as it was 45 mins each. I must have smelled too much petrol that night. I have heard silly comments like the top side of cylinders getting no oil. Sigh, silly comments from those that have no idea how they work or easy they are to work on.

wait till you have to replace the head gaskets.......

Compared to my 1966 Triumph herald that I can replace a head gasket in 1/2 hour, the Subaru is substantially harder: ie, remove cam-belts, 45 mins to off and on and add each head off/on at 1/2 hour per side. But, while the Herald removal is a common need, the Subaru is seldom. I have just bought a 17 y/o 2.4Ltr Leather trimmed Outback at 461,893Kms with a workshop history. Nothing but regular maintenance! No turbo: the 2nd owner of just 6 months handed it to me with the comment that I'd -a Subaru fan- understand its idiosyncrasies. This car pulls like a GE loco. It can surprise some that want a traffic light drag. What I am replying to is the time needed to replace a head gasket: And that time is nothing compared to the output of a perfect motor. If you do not understand power to cost ratio, you do not deserve to own a Subaru. Buy a Nissan. Why did Jeremy Clarkson ban Subaru from Top-Gear? Because, to endorse it meant scrapping every other brand they could test. The cost to repair a Subaru is a lot less than competitors with the same H.P. output and that is my comment; Subaru offer us common owners a cheap, powerful car. It's maintenance is cheap for a non lazy person. But if you are Lazy, it is still a great car until you are stupid and make silly comments on UKposts expecting 600HP with no cost. I have problems with owners that want power and will not accept the associated costs.

+CaptainD00M It's not too hard to do :p

muchzshroom you need tiny hands

+CaptainD00M japanese have tiny hands :D

+G. I'm not Japanese and I have small hands.

Passenger side has nothing at all in the way with tons of access. Drivers side; unbolt washer fluid tank, set on battery or strut tower, tons of room. Just did it yesterday, including gapping plugs and all, maybe 15 minute job.

Plus a fucking mime...

Welly Whip Haha! I guarantee the song is Makelmore - poppin tags but as a slow classic rendition.