Whole lot of Arts and crafts in the old west.

@Guy with tuberculosis good luck with the tuberculosis

Probably cause it was a cartage conversion

I can bet... most of the people who read this msg wont understand the context wrt RDR 2 🤪

im sorry for being a dick but the lemat revolver was only usable in the epolouge, aka when you where playing as john marston.

but the best looking and iconic

@@user-jy6di6be4o

@@user-jy6di6be4o Arthur made reloading this seem a lot simpler.

@@user-jy6di6be4o l

this is underrated

Тттт

wow this is so hilarious im crying 💀💀💀💀💀

my sides hurt from laughter....you good sir deserve far more likes for this quality comment

😂😂😂made my whole day

These were not likely ever reloaded in combat !! You waited until a long lull or pulled off to the side behind cover to reload ~ or better yet, like Confederate Captain Wm. C. Quantrill and his Independent Missouri Partisan Rangers, you carried 6-12 revolvers ! You could wear four (and even six ~ I've done so many times !) and have two more in "cantana" bags strapped to pommel, or cavalry pommel holsters, and saddle-bag holsters and a pistol belt with two more holsters and simply tied to pommel or cantle. Gives you plenty of firepower, 72 rounds ! You wait until a rest halt or a camp overnight and reload every gun ! Jesse James wore four and two more were in pommel holsters. ( I have studied history for 64 years, earned my B.A. degree in History and graphic arts, and been shooting 57 years ~I know what I'm talking about.)

These things were an improvement over flint locks, but a relatively marginal one...

dry was the real challenge

@@brucemorrison2132 That is very, very interesting. I remember Josey Wales carrying 4 revolvers in that Clint Eastwood movie. I hadn't thought of six or more revolvers being carried at a time by each man but that does make sense.

Их не перезаряжали в бою, когда заканчивались выстрелы то начиналась рукопашная схватка

And this further explains why there were models with removable cilinders, in perspective, Colt was in such case an absolute genius when inventing the shells.

On the upside, by the time you are finished loading one chamber with the lemat you have had time to calm down enough to call a truce. ;)

@@elementxxrider Colt didn't invent them, he just popularized them, some french guy invented them. Colt was like the henry ford of guns...or henry ford was the colt of cars...he invented replaceable parts. Prior to colt guns weren't exactly 1 offs, but it was common for parts not to interchange, colts goal was to mass produce parts and have a production line, where you could put any part on any gun without any extra work.

Tradução

Ver quanto tempo o processo para carregar não só havia uma bola, mas até mesmo colocá-los na arma me fez ter uma nova apreciação por cartuchos revestidos. Tradução

The manliest arts and crafts project was the Manhattan Project

Typically you would carry a bunch of paper cartridges instead of making them in the heat of battle

30% of this is anal ! Un-necessary caution and over -complicated loading steps ! Looks ridiculous ! There's safety procedures yes, of course . But this guy has made it way more complicated than needed ! I've been shooting cap and ball revolvers for 45 years~ including the 10-shot Confederate LeMat "Grapeshot" revolver and there's ways to load it much simpler and just as safe ! I have never in 45 years shooting had a mishap of any kind ! (Staff Sgt, Vietnam combat Marine with 24 years military service in three branches/USMC/USAF/ARNG ).

Realoading your handgun in the field wasnt even a consideration. The handgun was for when you had already had to abandon your rifle for whatever reason that may have been and even then it was probably most people second choice behind their sword

they probably have army staff in the field doing that for officers.

O think it would ve thte reverse because you can put jonh to use a lemat before arthur dies but i liked you coment

It's just we didn't have the tech for it for a long time. Making jackets was far too tedious back then since they'd need to be so refined in a smithery it was virtually impossible to do feasibly until we got better tech.

@@fooltheroyal8691 that makes more sense. thanks.

Fairly sure we had em earlier. I remember Ian from Forgottenweapons did a vid where he checked out this swanky 16th century wheel lock breech loading rifle that had these sort of proto-cartidges that could be reused. I think the main issue would be lack of metallurgical knowledge to come up with a cost effective cartridge, since. In other words, bullets in shells was an idea people had, it was just too expensive to produce good ones

It wasn't the "figuring out" of self-contained cartridges, it was all the other advances in materials technology & machining that make them possible...

well we used the paper shells, back in the day, they would take to war, big boxes of premade and loaded paper shells which were manufactured in a specialised factory or workshop. Also the entire of making them would be much faster since they would have some more optimal and faster way than his, like multiple people doing various stages of shell while others would be pre-weighing the black powder

I imagine historically, they likely got the paper cartridges premade most of the time instead of hand rolling them. You can of course also reload it with loose powder and ball directly which would have been the other option if premade cartridges werent available.

@@judgeroybean6231 If I remember correctly you could buy them pre-made in boxes at places that sold fire arms.

That is my understanding, yes

@@judgeroybean6231 imagien they had the nowaday ball ( 105mm howitzer ammo with two parts, the warhead and the ball behind) lol that save some time reloading even if u must put one by one those 2 pieces as i recall these were gen 1 right the later ones have centerfire and standard metal cartridges

JRB is correct. The cap and ball pistols in service were loaded with a pack of pre-made nitrated paper cartridges that were a snug but not super tight fit. That included the big bore secondary barrel using a musket cartridge. The waist pouch for this and other SAR cap guns held two paper packs (like cigarette packs). You pulled it out and tore it open with a string ripcord like cigarettes. The cartridges are then simply inserted whole and pressed as JRB shows here. The back of the cartridge was one thickness of formed paper and dknt need to be pierced. They basically looked like modern rounds without a primer. The caps were in a tiny bag inside the pack with typically two extras. You then applied caps and done. The caps lit the treated paper, which lit the powder. Just doing a 1853 Navy or Army revolver takes under a minute to insert all rounds. Add another minute to cap. 6 rounds in 2 minutes is why they didn't issue revolver rifles. A musketman can do 6 rounds in 2 minutes, single loads....and it is safer when massed together. Metal back load cartridges with primers, and the foil cartridge Henry Martini changed that. I shoot SAR Civil War pistols with nitrated paper cartridges, made from coffee filters and a wooden press.

It's not a factory defect, it's "historical authenticity" 🤣

The Dragoon and Walker levers are similarly weak from Pietta and Uberti. As you say, it's entirely historically accurate.

😂😂😂

Okay bajeed

Americans switch to another gun.

The Wild West..

It took until the end of the 19th century to load this thing.

@@force1253 you made me laugh with that one!

*laughs in gasser 1870*

no wonder. Cars didn't exist before the 20th century.

@@nilspochat8665 First self propelled vehicle was produced in the very late 1800s, like 1893 or something. It was electric, boogie woogie woogie

Unfortunately i don’t even know if the lemat is built that tough 😂

. .

That could be a good weapon for people who might be encountering dangerous wildlife but don’t want to carry a rifle.

That would be epic!

It does exist.

@@Bravo-Too-Much _explain_

I used to want a LeMat but now I know it's a complete turd.

88⁸⁸⁸88

@@gigiospinsante4039 ll n.(ml

@@scottp4077 jose rizal adven Ture

@@Letsplayboi you really want me to believe that?

I don't think you can make a working LeMat conversion that could use a shell in the shotgun barrel.

@@RegisTraiter I don't think you can either, and even if you could it would become an NFA item (short-barrelled shotgun). I think There's a video by Frank Bird, a gunsmith who converted one to fire .32 shells, but he left the shotgun as is. In the video he said he charged $2k for the conversion. So, considering the gun is around $1,000-$1,300 last time I checked, all in it'd be over $3,000 ...you'd seriously have to like the LeMat, or have more money than sense, to put that much into a replica gun, that in the end wouldn't even be historically correct.

@@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove Yeah, at that point I'd get a really kickass Colt Navy repro... or an engraved Peacemaker... or a really nice rifle tbh

@@RegisTraiter I own several reproductions, all Uberti. Personally, I like Uberti better than Pietta, Pietta insists on putting all their modern warnings on the side of the barrels, and Uberti puts them in more discrete locations, like under the loading lever. While they do have their issues, they're all tunable. I had to do some work on my Colt Walkers (short arbor problem). Just like most gun guys when Ed Harris came on the screen with the LaMat I got very interested in the gun. But after looking at the price, I passed.

@@RegisTraiter For the price of one LaMat reproduction you could probably own 2 Cold Navy or Army pistols, and almost 2 Colt Peacemakers. The LaMat is a very cool-looking gun and a very cool idea, it just didn't work that well in real life. I wouldn't own one unless $1300 didn't mean anything to me, and I just wanted one to look at every once in a while. But in the end, everyone is different. I have to admit Ed Harris's character wielding the LaMat in Westworld looked kind of cool.

I might suggest some changes though, for the sake of hopefully improving upon the design. Making it top break would limit the weakness in the overall structure, since there's no loading rod to come loose, and using a system that locks the hammer better when prepping a shotgun shot, and toggling back to normal shots after firing would also make it more reliable. I see no problems with making this into a double action revolver, since the only mechanical difference needs to be in the trigger, hammer, and cylinder modules, where there already isn't too much limiting that adjustment. This thing absolutely could come back as a modern revolver, albeit not incredibly practical considering the size, weight, and how small each bullet would have to be to hold 9 shots.

P

I take it, this was the gun custer and the men in the 7th cavalry used against the Indians, that could explain a lot 🤔😁🇬🇧

Imagine in the old west whitout the stick glue and matrice

@@bobdylan5196 It was the old west and they had to ration their water when out on missions. Their spit was probably VERY sticky.

@@marklloyd4087 Custer had two Gatling guns but decided they were too much of a bother. It would have gone much better for his men and him if they had put up with the hassle, lol.

seriously, that was an awful lot of work to shoot a few rounds out of a shitty old revolver. my grandpa's m14 from vietnam has historical significance without being a chore to go shoot. I'll take a compact 9mm with 15+1 that I can empty in less than five seconds

the southern version of the 1st song is a better song ;p

This gun althou modified a lot appeard for example in HBO show Westworld used by Man in black in video game Red Dead Redemption or in other video game Hunt Showdown

@@AlastorCreations I looked up the gun, it's not modified, you could buy them just like it is in the video. I'm assuming the one in the video is reproduction, the originals are worth way too much to risk shooting.

​@@bigredc222 by modified i meant the appearences of the gun in the mentioned games/shows beacuse they went for approach of using cartridge ammo for increased reloading speed I assume

@@AlastorCreations I had a 50/50 chance if you were talking about modified in this video or in the game, I took a guess. While I was looking for info a found a modern version that does use cartridges, but it looks modern, it's all stainless steel and both barrels are in the same block of steel.

An Iphone equivalent for southern gentry. Still a marvelous piece of work.

And then got drunk and bashed each other with bottles?

It'a like rollin' a smoke, in a sense.

I'd like to see that too.

What do u mean u written about it

@@douggaudiosi14 That is THE Chuck Dixon, the Legendary Comic and Novel author. I think he makes both for Arktoons nowadays.

You made Robin and Bane!? Awesome!

Doesnt matter, underslung shotgun barrel. Your 1858 remington is inferior.

The only other time an underbarrel shotgun happened was in the 80s, and even then it was meant for breaching doors and not as an offensive weapon, hence the name "master key".

@@ahalfsesameseedbun7472 Yo dawg, what if you put an underbarrel shotgun underneath the barrel of another shotgun and then link both pumps and triggers together? Then build another one of those guns and combine all four into one? A Mossberg 500 + 500 + 500 + 500 would make you a Mossman 2000. Thats 260 whole more units of gun than a Remington 1740.

This catch for the lever was facing down in the original LeMat. This one here is some sort of a heresy.

@@pinkhead6857890 Remington and a saw-off shotgun and you are way ahead.

Yes, the French-made, Confederate- designed, LeMat "Grapeshot" revolver was the "select-fire assault revolver" of the War for Southern Independence !

The time and effort that goes into even just loading the pistol would make every shot worth that much more. I hope I get to shoot one one day!

@@darkimperial007 I've gotten my muzzle loader down to about a minute to throw the charge, load and tamp the ball, cap the nipple and fire. Just got back from the range a few minutes ago!

@@darkimperial007 You are sure to enjoy shooting one!

Love mine, too...ALL of them!

Its not a pistol but ik what you mean lol

The cheapest gun simply will make your time easier rather than this revolver,just don't use really outdated gun in a gunfight

@@NetralFN that's irrelevant to my interest in this video

I only had so many civil war songs to choose from haha

Hey hey that be the confederate states of America!!!!

He had one from each side.

Пока перезарядит, уже и война кончится ... )

AND OVER-COMPLICATED loading ! Can be done much simpler, I own and shoot my great LeMat ( and about a dozen others ).

Probably possible, but you'd have to have something to block the powder and primers from falling out just in case, and the cylinders are already insanely heavy

Seems like the perfect carry gun to me haha.

People in the 2200's will say the same of our current handguns.

Пока зарядишь война кончится

Isn't he looking down the barrel of an old and unpredictable loaded gun? 6:35

@@josephinetracy1485 He didn't put the percussion caps yet so it isn't that dangerous, but personnally, i still never would ram those paper cartidges in the chamber with the gun pointed at my face.

@@pierrevilley6675 ooh.... k...... thanks

I believe the link to the band is in the video description.

@@judgeroybean6231 You can tell some heavy Irish roots in this music.

Them enemies better be dead when the time comes to reload.

,,,,cartridge making was usually done by women & children in government arsenals...

@@mohammedcohen yeah okay but it was still a lot of loading and tightening and greasing before shooting six guys before you needed to reload again.

@@alrikdewaardt I agree - but to the folks used to a one-shot horse pistol, these were an epiphany...kind like a photographer used to a 4x5 Speed Graphic and learning to save that one shot for the ultimate picture - then finding a 35mm roll film camera with 36 exposures

@@alrikdewaardt What's wild is cartridges existed for almost a decade when this was invented... I guess new tech takes a while to take off.

Was it cold mountain?

@@GrosvnerMcaffrey I believe it was.

Солидарен из Белебея

Умиротворение...