Really man Respect Valve+

It's a front for Xbox just like Rog Ally. It's an illusion of competition where Microsoft is backing these Laptop manufacturers to compete against Steam. If you look closely, it looks like an advertisement for GamePass and Steam or Gog is never mentioned.

sony has become garbage

i think steamdeck still the best in price range

@@johnnysilverhand1733 i still don't understand what capitalism is for over two years, not chat gpt nor my father could've explained it in simple words

More like, took notes from Switch and GPD

​@@epektasis242grow up.

@@epektasis242 that is a terrible thing to be the best for. the switch is a pretty dog shit console if it weren't for the exclusives

@@VermillionEdge78 exactly that's business bro

Thats the rog ally

Razer for sure but yeah lenovo I never thought would

Really? They're one of the only companies that make gaming phones and gaming tablets so this is not far out of their wheelhouse.

"Try things"? Like... copying the market leaders designs??? Yes. That's very Innovative of them!

feel you bro. This is the exact reason i'm currently looking for a good handheld device. I have a wife and two kids and no time and moreover no will to sit agains PC. Ive been thinking about SD but Lenovo made me think the other way. Can't wait for october to but this thing!

Agree. But any handheld needs to allow for sleep/suspension in moments notice. That's what I'm missing. When children or wife needs attention I can't let them wait 3 minutes to shutdown the device and then start it up 3 minutes, then I could also play on the pc 😅

Exactly my thoughts!

Same

Facts ! ROG ALLY KILLER HAS been announced! 🤫 I will not wait for ASUS response on this probably next year.. LET'S FCKN GO !!! 😃

How does it feel? Edit: *holds mic*

But... How does it feel? 😃

​@@lenovolegiondoes it have vrr?

You mean Nvidia? Cause let's face it. The Switch inspired all of these handhelds.

​@@frank234561huh? the switch doesn't have any nvidia components in it what are you on about

@@YousefMohamedAbdulMoniem Switch has a Nvidia Tegra X1 chip

Both of opinion are not wrong, as far as i can see, this year AMD is dominating in portable gaming device...while NVIDIA and it's AI feature are starting to aim markets other than gaming, like 3d software and for other typr of content creating application

just wait for the upcoming AMD APU 3D V-Cache and AMD FSR 3.0 that's the real game changer in Handheld Gaming

In fact, it already exists, it's the one on xbox

@@emmanuelromero176 The original Xbox OS was just the current version of windows stripped to the bare minimum to run DirectX games. Idk about the current Xbox OS tho but i bet it's still not fully windows which means it will only run UWP apps/games

The problem is that people are not developing handheld experiences. Who the hell wants to sit down and play what is supposed to be an immersive RPG, open world game, or racing sim designed for extended console playing and big screens on a handheld?

​@@COOLFRIEND This isn’t 2006 in the psp days obviously people want the full experience on the go not gimped handheld version Thats the exact reason gaming handhelds are popular again

@@COOLFRIEND i go to work and commute alot so playing it on the go helps.

Yes! I keep thinking about watching Netflix etc on this as well as upscaling emulators and older games. I have a steam deck and I'm so excited to get this! I'm so glad I didn't buy an rog Ally! 😂

Thunderbolt also means EGPU support. It's actually somewhat futureproof in that formfactor.

Didn't you already own A Steam Deck, An Ayaneo, A1 pro, Rog Ally, A Ps5, Xbox, Nintendo, and now this.

As amazing as that is, it can go further. AMD/Intel smartphone my friend, with every selling point of a handheld PC and a phone. Yes that includes close to infinite OS updates, would give much needed competition to the Android and iOS duopoly.

Plus it gives you higher FPS by using the Thunderbolt Display Port not just with the monitor BUT WITH THE VR GLASSES and wait that's not it we are talking about a smaller screen as well that means less GPU/CPU consumption than a huge monitor just imagine if the two controllers had GYRO it will be a full VR PC on the go... That's INSANE!!

Agreed, hardware here looks great, but software has to go to Steam. RIP Volition & Saints Row

Microsoft is apparently working on a handheld version of windows. It’s Microsoft however probably won’t be done right.

Detachable is nice for the tablet experience...still gotta see how ergonomic the joycon experience is.

Windows is so much better, Linux people are crazy liars

Yeah Windows on Gaming Devices are atrocious. This thing has to be compatible with SteamOS.

PSP? 🤔

nintendo ds was before than psp @@anirudhn3301

Psp

The psp. And then the vita was ahead of its time. The WiiU was way better than it got credit for. The switch was the first one to really hit mainstream

Microvision from Milton Bradley Company?

They just try to compete with the steam deck, which is the most sucessfull pc handheld device. But they won't succeed.

Windows is awful for handhelds, if Microsoft cared they'd bring gamepass to Linux. I'll consider getting this when its working good with linux

We're getting a PSP just not the PSP we wanted lol

why do people keep bringing up that failure of a handheld when new devices come out. that dead unsuccessful handheld is dead and gone. move on...

@@rahnyc4 because in terms of hardware it was the best handheld device ever made short of the Nintendo switch. Sadly Sony killed it themselves with proprietary memory cards and lack of software support. If they had however done right by it like Nintendo has with the switch it would of killed. So if Sony releases such a handheld today, with their current library of games in theory it would be the only thing to rival Nintendo's offerings.

But 90% of games don’t need it!

@@Theboss00077Exactly. Even the mouse scenario will be inferior to just a proper high polling rate gyro. Adding unnecessary bulk and accessories...but that's life, in order to make something accessible for near 100% of people, they have to inconvenience the 90% that don't need those other features.

Trackpads are essential for a handheld. It looks like it'll still take awhile for slower people to catch on though

@@Theboss00077 But windows needs it ;-D

​@@Theboss00077Do people need hypercars? No, but they handle better. Trackpads handle better.

Not yet

You'll have janky software problems, just look at ROG Ally reviews. It may not be a perfect intro to the PC stuff.

@@retrocomputing This is why I’m not a PC gamer or user to begin with. Poor PC port optimization and Windows OS’ terrible UI is off putting.

@@AbernathyCrimsonI have the rog ally and I think portable gaming is better than laptop or desktop gaming. I’ve had zero issues with windows, zero issues with the pc itself and no gaming issues whatsoever. I would highly recommend getting one. It’s future proof capabilities is fair, but with the Xg mobile, it will last you another 11 years of gaming. Look at the gtx 1030, gtx 1660,. those cards were released over 6 years ago and still hold up today and could potentially still run todays games at high/medium settings. Go for it. You’re not gonna regret it at all.

@@AbernathyCrimsonTry gaming on MAC and you will have worst problems. I left MAC for PC cuz i like gaming and don’t regret it. I like macOS more of course but i game more than anything else on my computer. I am on a RTX 4090 PC build and my Macbook Pro was changed for a RazerBlade. I still have my iPhone and iPad for mobile computing. If you decide to STAY with MAC. Then the ROG Ally or the Lenovo Legion Go are your best way for gaming.

@@powerhouse884 I will probably never game on a Mac, but I prefer my PS5 over any PC really due to the simplicity of it so that’s enough for me. As long as I can play my games in 4K/1440P at at least 60/40FPS, that’s good enough for me. I’m also a sheep for physical media. I only thought about PC for certain exclusives.

X2

VRR?

@@TheMrWARLORD”variable refresh rate”. Basically if the Legion’s displays really does not support VRR, you’ll probably get annoying micro stutters if the graphics chip does not put out 144fps or a fraction of it (since it’s a 144Hz display), so 72fps, 48fps or 36fps. With a VRR display you are much more flexible

You could do that. Just order all of them and return the ones you liked least

I keep my fingers crossed the Steam Deck and/or the rest of the handheld PCs grab a minimum of 30% of the Switch’s user base. PC is the least popular option; if it grows larger and threatens the consoles every platform will improve.

It looks as bad as Asus one, running windows and only beating steam deck at it's resolution while pluged into the wall with turbo modes. And screen is a blurry mess if you want playable framerates.

Dave 2 D pointed out that you can connect a regular mouse and just use one of the controllers disconnected. Maybe that would help?

@@CrotZari ohhh- That's honestly very cool, I think that would help indeed, as long as I can use the right side controller as the controller, still. :D Thank you for commenting this. : )

How does it work?

​@Ben-io2vo you remove the controllers then put them into fps mode. Then use the cover it brings and put it on the bottom of the right controller and you can use it as a mouse.

@@Ben-io2voyou take off the right side and put it in a stand that's included. Then you can use it like a vertical mouse

Would be good for fortnite 😅

You can use it like a regular mouse in windows as well

If only it didnt have windows. In it....

Isnt only Xbox its PC titles as well which is huge.

😎

Why would Sony be punching air???

I dont support they just copied the nintendo switch. Shows they were uninspired. No one wants this when they can have an original.

Did you forget the Nintendo switch already did all of this? And why are you pumped to have a device needlessly be broken down into three separate parts, all of which can break separately, all of which need to connect separately, all of which need their own power? And you WANT to have to buy extra accessories for the extra parts? You probably buy every ad you watch lol.

@@pwd1134 You're not that smart i see 😂.

​@@bboiwilliam2066 the switch isn't even an original idea, it just popularized a bunch of pre existing concepts, with some minor improvements.

Thinkpads stopped being the best business laptops years ago, there’s far less upgradeability and no external battery.

@@protocetidthere are plenty of other product ranges where Lenovo excel including their Yoga & Legion ranges.

Not really innovate just copy the Nintendo Switch...

Deal breaker for me

Pioneered what design? They did nothing. PSP was the first one to come up with this design and steam deck was the one to push other manufacturers to follow.

@@davidsantoso2291since when did psp have a detachable controller?

maybe he is talking about portable console in general ?@@mrdimple1997

​@@davidsantoso2291Dude did you even watch the actual video?? This device here literally has tabletop mode and detachable controllers like the switch does. This thing here literally took those things from the switch. There literally is no other device that does exactly that.

Nintendo will always be 1# just accept it

It has hall effect sticks, so it lasts SIGNIFICANTLY longer.

The size, weight and potentially the price might be the only downside, this might be the most "premium" pc handheld out there.

it doesn’t have vrr

thats like saying sony or microsoft should thank atari for making consoles

@@ezioassassain Sony who?

Why would i want an un original copycat when i can just buy a Nintendo switch.

Wonder what will nintendo do to revolutionize the concept again in order to stay on par with the competition , huh i am saying this but with their popular ips they could release any console as long as it looks like a switch it will sell but still knowing them they will surely surprise they've been developping their console for years now...can't wait to see how the situation will evolve

@@bboiwilliam2066 stop fanboying please , you have to admit that these newer portables are way superior than the switch heck they can emulate it with way superior graphics too , copies are essential if copies weren't a thing android mobile smartphones wouldn't be a thing and we would still have to buy crappy iphones but thankfully the competition provided improved versions , the competition needs to be tight thus nintendo will keep innovating if they want it or not so stop fanboying you look pathetic go find a hobby or something stop wasting your precious time defending companies because they don't care about you theur objective is to make as much money as possible (man i hate fanboys).

apparently this thing has hall effect magnetic analog stick that doesn't get stick drifts

@@jairusmonillasSeems like they do! These megacorps keep skimping out on the sticks, Lenovo finally bucked the trend.

Even nintendo joined this trend according to a leak the next switch joycons do have that hall effect that you mentionned its really crazy to me that they sold so much joycons to people with problems...@@jairusmonillas

UFO had such a fantastic name, but the Alienware brand can be hit or miss in terms of build quality

Actually AMD made these devices possible, steam deck was just the first to use the tech.

Switch? It's the grandfather of handheld gaming

@Wiimaster. obviously talking about pc handheld gaming. Everyone knows the switch killed it

@@simonh2011 Completely Agree ma brotha

​@@Wiimaster. I'd almost say the gpd win 1 is more closer to being the "grandfather" for this generation of handheld gaming.

Dedicated docking stations with GPUs for all handhelds would be a dream come true!

The problem is bandwidth, specially if you don’t dock it to a TV. The handheld market has improved a lot this year, but the eGPU hasn’t yet. The best ones by far are Asus xgmobile and they are limited to their proprietary connector that even is just like 20cm long and still suffer from bandwidth issues. USB needs to improve more to make eGPU set ups the rund they deserve

I think one of those usb-c's is a thunderbolt 3

@@jonathantroyer2822 It is, but while thunderbolt 3 speeds are nice, bandwidth can be insufficient. Problem with eGPUs is that the higher end they are, the less performance you'll get comparatively to their desktop variants. And the lower end they are, the less noticeable the increase will be.

Why does everyone insist on turning handheld devices into non-handheld devices in favor of better graphics? Just get a mini-ITX PC at that point, still portable, cheaper and more powerful than a handheld with eGPU.

I wish i held off 😞

@@eros2144 That’s PC gaming for you, there’s always something slightly shinier around the corner. Key word is slightly, the Ally is a fine machine.

No vrr on lenovo 😂.

@@whitefata104 i have VRR off when im playing Fortnite

Word for word. Bot.

Nope. I don't like onset joysticks and that device is nowhere near as comfortable to hold as people make it sound. I'm starting to think the majority are just trying to justify their Steam Deck purchase for as long as possible. I have a Steam Deck so I'm not hating, I just don't fabricate.

Deck is great and thx to its greatness we see amazing competition in this field. It's awesome.

@@KennyMaximum There is no doubt that the steam deck will remain the most sucessfull pc handheld device. The Legion Go is too heavy, too big and too expensive. It won't sell as much as the steam deck.

@@zzzzzap I agree, the Lego seems to be all of that stuff, I'm not defending it, but the Steam Deck is NOT the best ergonomics out there.

@@KennyMaximum Most people say that the ergonomics of the steam deck are great. ;)

Not really, still, nothing beats the pricepoint

@@ChrisMiller223 699 probably, its worth for that price

@@vasudev8421 That battery will last about 40 mins driving a resolution like that with bluetooth controllers. Not worth it at all.

@@vasudev8421 Not worth it, 800Euro in Europe vs 340 euro Refurbished Steam Deck and you get a 100 euro 1TB SSD

@@johnboylan3832 you don't need to run it at that resolution. Also it is worth it. It's way more powerful than steam deck.